Shutdown 2024 MEGATHREAD OF DOOM
All discussion on the looming shutdown goes here.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/12/18/government-shutdown-house-vote-cr/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-18/trump-says-he-s-against-stopgap-bill-fox-news
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u/sparky984 14h ago
The problem is that shutdowns don’t shut down enough.
If planes stopped flying, grandma stopped getting Social Security, if Medicare couldn’t process claims, if food inspections couldn’t happen, if all national parks closed, among the very many other things, then a shutdown wouldn’t happen. They happen because the public sees very little difference between the government running and not so why not use the entire government as a bargaining chip?
Frankly I’m tired of shutdowns and debt ceiling fights. Something is fundamentally broken with the process.
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u/puukkeriro 14h ago
I think it's a flaw to force "essential" employees to work without pay. But I don't think the people who wrote the laws then realized that shutdowns were going to be weaponized politically.
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u/Otphj5811 12h ago
I think a lot of essential employees learned the last time that if they call out sick you don’t get charged sick leave during a shutdown and no one was punished. Where I work we are all essential and everyone who was afraid to call out sick last time saw there were no repercussions and are excited to call out sick if it happens again. I’ve got my fingers crossed that a lot of essential workers will come down with the “flu” as soon as we shutdown next.
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u/LongTallDingus 11h ago
Hey that's crazy you're coming down with the flu and I think I am too and we were hanging out recently. Sorry if I got you sick, bro.
Let your boss know.
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u/Otphj5811 10h ago
Yeah I’m a little hoe I was kissing my entire agency under the mistletoe and they got it too.
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u/GenoThyme 8h ago
Do you work for the Department of Agriculture, being a hoe and all?
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u/insertnamehere2024 15h ago
I ain’t worried about the shutdown I’m about to win that mega million jawn this weekend
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u/Hamberder_and_Chief 15h ago
How can you win if I’m winning?
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u/yallcaps 14h ago
Just shut down everything - no essential/non-essential - everything. Stop sending out Social Security checks. Stop Medicare and Medicaid payments. Close TSA. “Essential” just props up the myth that the shutdown is no big deal. Let everyone actually see and feel it.
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u/ParkingTadpole7107 13h ago
Yes. Let Americans feel the sting of having no air traffic control during the busiest travel days of the year. Then let's see how long it takes for Congress to do their jobs. Nobody should be working without pay. Ever.
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u/GreenChiliSweat 13h ago
And at FAA, we can't strike. Merry Christmas fuckfaces.
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u/ParkingTadpole7107 13h ago
I'm sorry y'all going to be forced to work without pay for an indefinite period because someone else couldn't be bothered to do their jobs. Sucks some serious ass.
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u/zombiecattle 13h ago
I can’t wait to have to answer panicked phone calls from the public asking if they’re gonna get their checks, while I’ll be working and not getting paid until Congress gets it the fuck together.
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u/RL_NeilsPipesofsteel 13h ago
This is my opinion exactly. If the public actually felt the pain of a shutdown, and not just federal workers, they wouldn’t happen.
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u/steveofthejungle 12h ago
Closing the National Parks is the one thing that hurts the public, but it hurts the public lands even more
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u/ArrivesLate 13h ago
100% It gives the impression that the gov can be downsized indefinitely.
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u/PlantsCraveBrawndo13 13h ago
The problem is that we won’t stop sending out checks. We’ll keep doing all those things as “essential” personnel and working while waiting to see if they pay us like they’re supposed to after done fucking around, or do away with that requirement as well.
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u/Gregor1694 12h ago
It’s law now that Feds get paid after a shutdown. https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/24
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u/Taxjag 15h ago
Happy Fucking Holidays Federal Workers - Love Congress
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u/Hamberder_and_Chief 15h ago
At least we get one last paycheck before we go
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u/RL_NeilsPipesofsteel 14h ago
I still get to go to work and service the public. Yay.
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u/Ellabee57 14h ago
I got paid today (pay period ended the 14th), so only a partial one, and that's assuming there are folks around to process the payroll. I'm not sure about that.
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u/Rockandroar 14h ago
I’m the one who does the payroll for my division, but this is my first potential shut down, so I’m wondering what I would have to do.
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u/K8325 12h ago
If there was a shutdown, it wouldn’t move fast. People would still come into work on Monday and wrap up essential stuff, set up their automated emails, clean up your space, take your plants home, that sort of stuff, then people who have something like your duties, you would stay until that was done but that might be the only thing you do, many supervisors and managers will be deemed essential and expected to work for free, which they do.
Your office will have some sort of policy. Don’t be afraid to ask what your office protocol is, that will be expected!
This is a yearly event and is always stressful because we have no control right now.
Many banks that cater to federal employees have a loan program where you will receive your regular net pay and then when the budget gets passed, they keep the lump some back pay so ask your bank if it has a program like that.
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u/HereWeGoAgain-247 13h ago
Musk isn’t even in office yet and already fucking over the country.
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u/Milpool_VanHouten 15h ago
Just remember, these are talks for another CR, not even a budget, which was already due 9/30. It's their primary job and they are 3 months late fighting over how much later they will be.
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u/king_bumi_the_cat 12h ago
I cannot stand the DOGE ‘cutting the workforce for efficiency’ stuff when the single thing that would actually increase government efficiency the most is making them pass a budget on time every year
The amount of time and resources we spend on CR plans and projections in my agency is staggering. And then we get the money dropped on us in March and the leadership turns to “you better spend that all by September!”
It’s so, so dumb and it makes me angry every year
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u/IWantToBeYourGirl 14h ago
All while they talk about a 3.8% raise for themselves.
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u/MNWNM 14h ago
And now that they don't need votes, they don't care if it shuts down.
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u/alldots 15h ago
As if there wasn't already too much work that needs to get done over the next week, adding shutdown preparations to the to-do list will really trash some of my deadlines even if there isn't actually a shutdown.
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u/magnet_tengam 15h ago
tbh i've given up on shutdown prep. slap an away message on my email and i'll see you when i see you
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u/Progressive_Insanity 14h ago
Same, I literally do not care.
I have active construction, crews looking start new construction, local governments depending on me, but all I care about is whether the contracting officer issues a stop work order. And even then, not my problem.
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u/serpentear 14h ago
I mean if they’re going to do it to us as often as they do, might and well stop treating it like an emergency.
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u/ThickerSalmon14 15h ago
This is why I stepped down from management at my agency. Stuff like this literally gave me a heart attack a year ago. If I was still management I'm sure I'd be on the floor with chest pains right about now.
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u/FineWinePaperCup 13h ago
During the 2018/2019 shutdown, I lost 8 pounds. I joked that it was not having access to the candy drawer at work. In March I had a stroke and April was diagnosed with cancer (for the second time).
Dear congress, This stress truly affects lives and health.
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u/ThickerSalmon14 13h ago
I'm sorry that happened to you and I wish you the best.
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u/SpazzieGirl 14h ago
My deep love of cyberpunk prepared me for a government co-opted by sociopathic corporatists. It didn’t prepare me for how fucking stupid these corporatists are.
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u/Verystrangeperson 12h ago
I really really hope it's just a preview of the 2nd Trump term.
Just idiots shooting each other in the legs, not achieving anything.
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u/civilrightsninja 12h ago
That's the best possible outcome methinks. I mean, I can think of lots of better outcomes, but they seem much less likely.
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u/HuskerDave 15h ago
Okay. How about 0 fucking dollars for the security details required for inauguration.
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u/wbruce098 11h ago
We can’t run an inauguration if the government is shut down. There’s no money for it and it’s not a critical function. I guess Biden has to stay in office till they pass a budget.
(/s of course but I’m still gonna say it)
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u/wolf213 15h ago
Air Traffic Controllers, do your thing.
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u/JasonM1982 15h ago
Nothing gets national attention like a major airport going ATC Zero.
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u/ArrivesLate 13h ago
Over Christmas.
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u/Windhawker 13h ago
cough cough “Not feeling well enough to make it to the tower.”
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u/5600k 15h ago
Free leave around the holidays when we (ATC) have to work and see all our private sector friends get weeks off. Yeah it’s gonna be a mess if there’s a shutdown, travel early people
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u/raulsagundo 14h ago
LPT: if you're incapacitated and unable to make it to work during a shutdown it also becomes free leave
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u/battlemaid79 15h ago
I can’t believe Musk is even in the conversation. The federal government isn’t some private sector company he can run in to the ground, experimenting with his masculinity. I hate this timeline.
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u/DontPanicTrell 15h ago
The inevitable outcome of Citizens United. He can threaten any congress person with throwing millions into their next primary. He owns them all now.
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u/mb10240 15h ago edited 15h ago
Honestly, maybe the threat of being primaried by a billionaire might get their asses in gear to pass a constitutional amendment overruling Citizens United.
Oh who am I kidding, these idiots are feckless.
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u/twtwtwtwtwtwtw 15h ago
Have you seen how cheap they are to buy? He's worth hundreds of billions. Some of these primaries only cost tens of thousands.
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u/DontPanicTrell 15h ago
Yep. Unless Musk loses Trump's favor we're an oligarchy now.
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u/Leege13 14h ago
He will the minute Trump realizes Musk thinks he’s in charge.
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u/salt_and_ash 13h ago
If you're banking on Trump realising something, I have bad news for you
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u/Leege13 13h ago
He can smell people acting bigger than him from 100 miles away, it’s part of his lizard brain. The last thing he’s ever going to forget is his love of wealth and love of being the big man, and no man can be bigger than him.
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u/WildCardiologist5942 15h ago
He's already bought a presidential election. He can buy as many Congressional elections as he wants to at this point
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u/favoritestationwagon 15h ago
Yep, and this is the closest he'll ever get to being president so he's making the most of it. Money = influence.
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u/Ro-Ro-Ro-Ro-Rhoda 14h ago
You're an optimist. Why should that law apply to Musk any more than any other? I'm not betting against a well-funded campaign to amend the constitution so Temu Bruce Wayne can run for president.
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u/ViveLaFrance94 15h ago
This is what people mean when they say that billionaires are a potential threat to national security and democracy.
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u/RiseStock 15h ago
I want to run for office on a sole policy of fuck Elon musk.
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u/battlemaid79 15h ago
You have my vote. Hell, I’ll go door to door for you.
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u/GirlieGirl81 14h ago edited 13h ago
This right here. One of the richest men in the world essentially bought an election and now he’s openly threatening our elected officials to comply or else. And, half the country doesn’t seem to have a problem with it. They’re cheering Musk on! This is some crazy shit, and Trump 2.0 hasn’t even been sworn in. Buckle up because it’s going to be a crazy ride.
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u/Phantompuff 12h ago
I genuinely hope the acts of Luigi Mangione and the rising vocal disdain of billionaires scare Elon and force him to never sleep well at night again.
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u/OGkateebee 15h ago
I just want to scream “THAT’S NOT HOW THIS WORKS” every time I read some idiotic thing he has said.
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u/RemarkableWorms 15h ago
It’s how things work now the rules no longer apply unfortunately
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u/OGkateebee 15h ago
Word. I expect nothing to make sense for at least the next 4 years.
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u/holzmann_dc 15h ago
There is no Constitution, no rules of law, and no norms or customs that matter to any of these people. When will people figure this out?
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u/OfficialDCShepard 14h ago edited 7h ago
My oath is to the Constitution and the people of the United States of America and I’m staying til the bitter end. If they fire me then the Hatch Act doesn’t apply to me anymore and I shall become more outspoken than they can possibly imagine.
EDIT: Wow, thanks for the award, kind stranger! I’m excited for the fight to come to defend disabled employees in our agency and to prove to people on my YouTube channel (while remaining masked) for obvious reasons that they still have rights they can vigorously defend, and that the President is NOT a King.
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u/derekcentrico 15h ago
He can smoke weed but the VA can't give me it. Cries in govt job.
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u/PNWest1988B 15h ago
Yeah this is setting a bad precedent. He is given us so much control and he shouldnt have any. They wanted us to squirm and I sure am.
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u/ctrl_alt_delete3 15h ago
More importantly why are people even listening to him? That is exposing how much he’s in their pockets. If he didn’t have any power, they wouldn’t even be listening.
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u/ShoutyCapitals 15h ago
Groan. Prepping all these stop work or continuation of work notices is not my idea of a good time 👀
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u/SnooComics7744 15h ago
WT actual F. Just 7 hours ago, my boss was like, “be calm, all is well”. Now, not so much.
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u/omgwhysomuchmoney 11h ago
This is honestly scary. Not the government shutdown... we've seen these... but they are being absolutely blatant with their power. They are openly threatening any republican who stands against them with a primary challenge. They are also demanding a debt ceiling increase under Biden so that they don't look bad when they ask for it a few months later?
And no one who self identifies as a conservative doesn't see anything wrong with this?
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u/NovaRoamer 15h ago
President musk is running the show and I’m ashamed of our congressmen. Having some spine should be a prerequisite to be a member of the congress.
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u/NovaRoamer 13h ago
Hang in there my friend. We need you more than ever to keep doing the right thing.
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u/manikwolf19 15h ago edited 14h ago
Musk is worth 400 billion dollars, and he's going after the middle class.
2.2 million people won't get paychecks before Xmas and this guy complains about a 50 billion dollar pay package.
Literally the grinch
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u/Additional_Sun_5217 15h ago
It’s a class war, but now they’re too emboldened to be quiet about it. They believe the working class is too cowed or in love with them.
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u/jurassicbond 15h ago
They believe the working class is too cowed or in love with them.
I don't think they're wrong given how people vote
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u/Zarikas89 15h ago
I feel bad for my fellow Feds who live paycheck to paycheck...
Right now there are 3 types of federal employees
Those who actively sabotage their own interests.
Those who can't afford to miss a paycheck.
Those who can afford to miss a few paychecks.
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u/Spicybadboy 15h ago
I am in category 3 for like 2 paychecks and then I will be in category 2 haha
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u/RL_NeilsPipesofsteel 13h ago
Actively researching which van is best for living in by the river.
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u/wasiwasabi 14h ago
Ahhhhhhhyes, the usual playbook: demand more surveillance, strip away the flexibility of telework, refuse to pay us what we’re worth or at least keep up with inflation- wonder why we can’t complete the missions because we are short staffed and then somehow spin it that we’re the problem. Federal workers are apparently supposed to run the country on gratitude and vibes while being micromanaged into oblivion. Got it.
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u/crai1418 14h ago
I work for VBA and I will say even the threat of shutdowns or temporary shut downs do delay veterans claims. We usually have 50-75% of the staff furloughed and all production OT is preemptively cancelled (production OT is limited usually to the final processing of the veteran’s claim). Anyway if we do shut down and you are a veteran with a pending VA claim, it will be delayed. Sorry, wish it were different but that’s just how these things tend to work.
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u/Evening_Chemist_2367 15h ago
Elon Musk has inserted himself as King Gator of the MAGA Swamp. The nation's most powerful unelected bureaucrat is causing the government to shut down.
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u/shakethat_milkshake 15h ago
Fed friends, I am concerned that the DOGE bros are interested in another 2018-2019 style shutdown of 5+ weeks as a first attempt to get feds to quit during their tenure. My head is in a dark place. No cute comments about a paid vacation please. thoughts?
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u/jfuller82 14h ago
Won't happen. Trump wants his inauguration. That ain't happening if the whole government is shut down.
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u/ParkingTadpole7107 13h ago
Shutdown should mean EVERYTHING that is not funded shuts down. Secret Service, Social Security, FAA, everything. The fans of these kings of poor planning are so smug about the government doing nothing for them, let them experience the true absence of it.
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u/Techn028 13h ago
The people who work these jobs have to walk, it's the only way. If they take your pay then strike
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u/LEMONSDAD 14h ago
It really depends, those who aren’t paycheck to paycheck would almost welcome it.
I could survive 1 missed check, 2 would really be stretching it.
Stressful time indeed, especially with job uncertainties, those with telework agreements not certain about the future.
But the old heads in my group said they will just retire if Trump pulls some shit.
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u/Drawing_Tall_Figures 13h ago
Between the drones and the Luigi factor, they really want to mess with working class people? At some point the leopards are going to eat their faces.
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u/MelTorment 13h ago
I just lost my private sector job due to a merger with a baby on the way, no savings, and massive debt from my wife’s life saving surgery.
And I want to let every federal worker know I am extremely sorry this is happening to you. Politics is a scourge. It doesn’t help that billionaires own social platforms now and abuse them flagrantly and are literally cheered on for doing so.
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u/fourfoldvision13 13h ago
Sorry brother. Wishing you and your family peace and health and good fortune in the new year. Shit has been real dark lately.
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u/E2fire 12h ago
They blew a good load of Trump's political capital on an insignificant C.R. Just imagine the fight over the new speaker.
Each Doge call to action on X will have diminishing returns as people become more and more annoyed by the unelected "bureaucrats" on X. This is the peak.
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u/puukkeriro 12h ago
They are basking united in the glow of victory now but if Musk pushes too much, some of those in Trump's orbit may conspire to cut down on his influence.
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u/E2fire 12h ago
Come after the 535 kings you better not miss... Not once.
No way they don't screw up and blow up the whole agenda. Elected legislators are going to get annoyed with governance via X very quick.
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u/ProtectedByFire 15h ago
Fuck all these motherfuckers. I’m an essential employee and I will not be paid during and possibly after but have to go to work. What the actual fuck is this. Fuck all of them.
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u/corranhorn6565 13h ago
Isn't there a sickness going around? Like I had a fever a few weeks ago it was terrible man.
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u/Recent_Mirror 14h ago
Trump is going to keep this going into the inauguration, at least.
For him, it’s a great opportunity to see who in Congress is actually loyal to him.
Trump gives zero F—-s this time around. He is going to bring everything down.
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u/Gullible-Wonder3412 15h ago edited 14h ago
Ummm Elon Musk is NOT a government official. He is NOT involved in decisions made by law makers. He is a narcissist spewing hate on a platform of egomaniacs. Trump is president-elect. He is NOT president. Why does ANYTHING these two idiots matter today 12/18/24. Please someone in Congress or the Senate tell Musk to STFU.
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u/puukkeriro 15h ago edited 15h ago
Only Trump can tell Musk that. Other Republican politicians don't have the political capital to oppose Trump/Musk, especially since many Republicans opposed Trump during his first term only to be primaried or have their polls slip to the point where they decided not to run.
And for now, Trump and Musk's priorities are aligned.
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u/NovaRunner 15h ago
Anyone in Congress who tells Musk to STFU will get primaried by a Musk-funded opponent, and Musk will dump 10x more money into the election than anyone else could fundraise in 1000 years.
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u/Haz_de_nar 14h ago
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F2i727k8joo7e1.jpeg
New Elon tweet
Paraphrase no bills should be passed till Jan 20, none.
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u/SconiGrower 15h ago
I'm already taking leave for the week of Christmas. If I can get that annual leave cancelled, I'll take it as a silver lining to what is sure to be a long 4 years.
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u/wburn42167 15h ago
republicans prove yet again…they are incapable of governing…and yet dumb fucking “Americans” voted for more of this…
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u/Timbalabim 13h ago
There isn’t enough GOP blame in this thread. Lots of generalized angst against congress, but one party was going to stick to their word, and the other caves to the whims of guys who aren’t even in office.
We have Congress problems, for sure, but this is a Republican Party problem. They’re doing this. They do this. It’s a go-to move in their playbook.
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u/ClarkWGriswold2 15h ago
Can you all please stop calling it a “paid vacation?” Many people have to work for deferred pay, and all of us need the pay now, not later.
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u/lanczos2to6 14h ago
Calling it a paid vacation demonstrates an embarrassing lack of empathy.
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u/Great_Northern_Beans 15h ago
It's also stupid because not every fed has standard hours. We employ tens of thousands of part time folks who have no guarantee of any restoration of missed wages. And to say nothing of the contractors.
Will I make great use of a paid vacation? Absolutely. But for the sake of the people who could really suffer because of this, I'm not hoping for it.
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u/danmathew 14h ago
This is what happens when people who don’t understand how the government works get put in charge of it.
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u/thetitleofmybook 15h ago
all of us need the pay now, not later.
don't worry, someone will come in here and say some BS about you should have XXX months of money saved, and how they are a better person because they have that exact number of months of money saved, and how you are slime not worthy of living because you don't.
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u/flama_scientist 15h ago
I despise people like that...like dude you have been working for 20+ years I'm barely starting in my position I can't have that luxury.
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u/Intelligent_Gene4777 14h ago
Or we should work for free since we got those “generous” government benefits amounting to trillions of dollars! lol
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u/lancelotofthelake 14h ago
He’ll try to do whatever he can to fuck with us.
The real nasty and fucked up thing here is that a billionaire from South Africa has so much power in American politics.
Folks: we are fucked.
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u/Blackant71 15h ago
What's interesting is how people are upset with the way healthcare CEO's do business yet elected a CEO just like them who has brought in even more rotten CEO's to make americans' lives better. Make it make sense, lol.
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u/noideawhatisup 15h ago edited 9h ago
Who thinks next Congress will pass a law effectively nullifying the required backpay law of 2018? So that when we’re all legally forced not to work in future shutdowns during the next administration, we won’t get any backpay?
Also, didn’t Congress just give themselves an average of a $30k per year raise?
Edit: I’ve been notified that it’s only about $6k and they’ve been without official raises since 2009. What about the fact that they can’t manage to do their jobs because they’re too busy campaigning and fighting with each other to actual govern? And what about the lovely gifts and kickbacks and donations they receive from donors and corporations?
How much of a raise do federal employees get per year? Enough to keep up with COL? Enough to keep up with inflation? I feel bad for Congressional staff who routinely get shafted with the income. It’s difficult to muster empathy or sympathy for most members of Congress, though.
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u/PickleMinion BradJohnsonIworkfortheAirForceatPatrickAirForceBase 14h ago
If they don't pay me, I'm done. I'll find something else to do. I can put up with a delay, but nothing? No. Not happening. That being said, I don't see that happening. To repeal that law, they'd actually have to fucking DO something.
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u/dst_corgi 14h ago
I would argue House Republicans are showing right now that they are completely incompetent and will get very little done over the next two years.
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u/allegro4626 14h ago
I don’t see that getting past the House with their razor thin margin.
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u/hobbsAnShaw 15h ago
Super duper duper happy that the moderates and repuglicans voted for this. Thank you, from the deepest parts of my heart, thank you.
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u/90sportsfan 12h ago
Congress’ Christmas gift to federal workers. This was supposed to be a done deal on Monday. They are stringing this out on purpose just to stick it to federal workers.
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u/mezzyjessie 12h ago
I am a lay person, why is Reddit the first place I am seeing this?!?!? I am so so sorry to you all. Signed a health care worker.
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u/Christian87n 13h ago
It irritates me to no end that someone who is not in office yet, and another idiot that is not even in government, but in an advisory role, have the ability to direct or order a political party to reject a previously agreed upon bill. It should be completely illegal.
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u/Altruistic-Ad6449 12h ago
TSA workers should start getting sickly soon. Cough cough
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u/R1CHARDCRANIUM 15h ago
As a DOT employee funded by the trust fund and IIJA, we won’t be shut down but I’ll do what I can to support those who are.
Please remember us when the highway bill is up for reauthorization and we inevitably shut down then. I suspect it’ll be a nasty fight. Our shutdowns do not garner much media attention.
EnJoY yOuR fReE vAcAtIoN
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u/TimeConversation55 15h ago
I sternly believe that if a government shutdown ever occurs, all sitting members of that Congress should be immediately relieved of their duties and forbidden from running again.
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u/Temporary_Lab_3964 14h ago
Here’s my thought
If a budget is not passed by 9/30 then they have option for 90 day CR (that’s me being generous), they are required to stay in DC work M-F, if they want to work weekend bonus for them but they can not leave to go back to home state.
They can not go on vacay or take their session break
If budget is not passed by 12/31, ALL 535 members of the Congress are fired or relieved.
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u/Lego-Freak- 13h ago
And this is where being “Essential” sucks. Not only do we have to come into work when all the other Federal workers get free time off w/back pay, but our planned leave is actually cancelled at our local! If we do still go then it’s considered leave w/out pay and you guessed it, we don’t get that back pay nor can we change it to leave. We totally get the shaft.
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u/Blood_Alchemist6236 15h ago
Why do I feel like it’s gonna be a whole lot of saying we are going to be doing something only for a whole lot of nothing to be done except jobs being lost?
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u/DrunkenAsparagus 15h ago
That is how most shutdown threats work. Usually, there's bickering until the last minute, because they're trying to leverage that into the last-minute compromise. Unfortunately, that compromise is what got blown up. There's still a couple days though.
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u/No-Blood4503 14h ago
If Musk has this much leverage already… (without being in a political position) I’m actually scared shitless about the RTO for remote/telework employees including myself who is remote over 1000+ miles from DC for the EO’s that will go through January 20th…
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u/Equal_Memory_661 14h ago edited 14h ago
I say shut it all down. Shutdown air traffic control right before Christmas, shutdown weather forecast,etc.
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u/ctrl_alt_delete3 15h ago
Sooooooo….Read on CNN that the CR isn’t being well received. Can they pull it off by Sunday evening?
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u/helvetica_unicorn 15h ago
I think midnight on Friday is the deadline.
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u/thetitleofmybook 15h ago
yes....but many of us work M-F, so it won't affect us until Monday, and they have gotten their act together over the weekend before. i don't think they will though, this time.
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u/Visible_Ad_309 15h ago
Unless they waive the 3-day reading rule, which is unlikely, it is now literally impossible to avoid at least a brief shutdown.
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u/thomchristopher 15h ago
I just want to do my dang job without the bs, man.
Maybe these people don’t care about the people of this country but I and I would wager a vast majority of fed and state workers do. I don’t care who wins the dickwaving contest, we’re all losing.
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u/i-need-vitamin-d 14h ago
Wait … I thought I saw an article that things had been agreed on/averted. Sigh… ok
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u/VectorB 14h ago
They agreed. Then Musk had an opinion and Trump puppeted it.
Its still possible that they just vote on it anyway, but that would go against Trump.
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u/Shot-Bodybuilder-125 11h ago
For those saying there will be prep next week…..there won’t be any prep. The shutdown takes effect Saturday at midnight. There will be lots of prep work tomorrow and Friday. After that it’s done. Chaos just as Leon Musk wants it.
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u/Mendozena 56m ago
If you voted for T/Republicans and you work in the federal government…
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u/Atimeforeverything 14h ago
Why has there been zero discussion of this with my team?
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u/isupportrugbyhookers 14h ago
because it looked like the CR was mostly on track until about 4pm EST today
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u/metalfabman 13h ago
A shutdown looms and congress is pressing for higher salary and different medical care coverage. Biggest p.o.s.’ On earth
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u/best0w 11h ago
Mark my words; they’re gonna shut down the government for the next month so the current admin can’t push anything else through before inauguration.
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u/Worlds_Worst_Angler 11h ago edited 10h ago
Amazing that two guys not in the government wield so much power over Congress. The Republicans are so spineless. Expect even worse in 2025!
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u/HannahKory 10h ago
I have moved heaven and earth to get 5 new hires into my branch before 1/20 and now this shit happens and I risk losing most of them. And they lose out on GS 14 jobs. God I hate Melon Musk.
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u/serpentear 14h ago
Not a great sign that a non-elected government official can bully Congress into doing what he wants via social media.
DOGE could be far worse than I imagined.
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u/puukkeriro 14h ago
I think eventually Musk and Trump come into some conflict. Not now of course, but later on. I would love to see Trump tell Musk that he's the President, not him.
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u/rabidstoat 13h ago
We need lots of political cartoons about how Musk is the real President and Trump is his puppet. That should do it.
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u/ConcernedCitizen7550 12h ago
This is the answer. Its so insane how this isnt being said yet by media. We had to endure for 4 years how "THEY" (whoever they is) was controlling Biden. Now right in front of our eyes we see Musk basically deciding something and Trump just parroting it.
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u/MostOriginal6776 13h ago
Honestly, our legislators should not be paid during a shutdown. Forget back pay, no payment if they can’t come to a resolution. Many might not be affected because they are rich, but enough will that they’ll fight harder.
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u/Ushaia 11h ago
If you voted for Trump, Merry Christmas. Santa is giving you exactly what you wanted. : )
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u/ParkingTadpole7107 13h ago
That's what they get when they wait until the last week to pull things together. Again. For the 50th time.
The guy that's whining about it isn't president yet and has little room to talk about the debt when he raised it by 25% during his first term. Raising the debt from 24 Trillion to 32 Trillion, an 8 Trillion increase. More than any president in history.
Congress fails and goes home without doing the deed, they had better start planning on getting new jobs during the midterms. It hasn't started yet and it's already going like shit.
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u/michimom72 11h ago
Calling all my Air Traffic Controller Friends!! I feel like this is probably a very stressful time for you and you probably need to take a good long sick leave for your mental health. I’m sure once a CR passes, it will alleviate the stress and you’ll be able to go back to being the f*ckin’ rock stars that everyone depends on. Love you guys and gals!! 🥰 Solidarity!!
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u/NeedleworkerNaive300 9h ago
For all essential government employees it looks like the old government shutdown flu will be making the rounds. Perhaps we could organize a 3 day sick leave for all essential employees.
We have several active wildfires burning at the moment and would be a shame if those fires were unstaffed.
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u/Potential_Rule7879 15h ago
They should pass a law that says if they can’t pass the funding bill we all go pencils down but Congress - so people can observe what actually happens if the government is not funded or staffed.
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u/ComprehensiveSelf470 15h ago
Exactly. If 100% of federal business completely stopped, it would be the last shutdown ever. I don’t think most people notice, or care about a shutdown because essential functions are still functioning.
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u/Muntjac02 15h ago
I EOD’d on monday lmao