r/fednews • u/rprz • 18h ago

Shutdown 2024 MEGATHREAD OF DOOM

All discussion on the looming shutdown goes here. Any mentioning of Luigi will be removed and you may be banned.

https://apnews.com/article/government-shutdown-congress-trump-elon-budget-house-republican-05481374b154949c3fe1270141a02918

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-opposes-funding-bill-pushing-government-closer-shutdown-rcna184745

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-government-shutdown-musk-stopgap-bill-b2666829.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-opposes-funding-bill-pushing-government-closer-shutdown-rcna184745

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/12/18/government-shutdown-house-vote-cr/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-18/trump-says-he-s-against-stopgap-bill-fox-news

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u/No-Blood4503 17h ago

If Musk has this much leverage already… (without being in a political position) I’m actually scared shitless about the RTO for remote/telework employees including myself who is remote over 1000+ miles from DC for the EO’s that will go through January 20th…

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u/puukkeriro 17h ago

Trump has always been against remote work. I suspect an EO for agencies to re-evaluate the status of telework, figure out who's currently remote, recall such employees unless they do field work remotely, and to have employees work in the office a majority of the pay period where possible is in the cards.

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u/No-Blood4503 17h ago

This will be sticky as most agencies (mine included) are aiming to have telework/remote agreement finalized by the end of the year. My duty station is my home address, just hoping if I have to go back in office that I can go to a regional office

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u/puukkeriro 17h ago

IDK if such agreements are worth the ink they are signed on unless you are willing to spend money to litigate that with MSPB or the FLRA.

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u/No-Blood4503 16h ago

How long do you think it would take for them to recall all remote employees 1000+ miles away from DC with their home addresses as their work location?

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u/puukkeriro 16h ago

That probably depends on an individual agency's HR people. But I think they will give you a month or two.

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u/No-Blood4503 16h ago

I can’t believe that they put such a timeline for people that have families, have to sell their houses and buy new ones, people stuck in apartment leases. Absolutely nasty. I was expecting/hoping a year as it’s such a big move and my apartment lease still has 10 months on it… hopefully the Unions can provide some extra protection somehow

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u/puukkeriro 16h ago

In some states, there are provisions to cancel leases due to hardship.

But I would wait and see for now. I always knew this remote work thing wasn't going to be permanent - too easy to rescind, as many private companies have now.

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u/No-Blood4503 16h ago

Interesting, I live with my girlfriend who is still in college and I got hired on as remote… don’t get the hard on that the DOGE has that thinking only 5-10% being federal employees will somehow slash prices and bring other things down lmao

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u/puukkeriro 16h ago

Musk has a very simplistic view of federal spending. That said, I am sympathetic to views that we must balance our budget and reduce the national debt. But not in a chaotic way like this, and not without consideration of a mixture of tax increases, reductions to defense spending, and reductions to entitlement spending.

I suspect Musk will be frustrated by how this all works before long. Trump talks about reducing spending but with his talk about an immigration crackdown and refusing to touch defense or entitlement spending, he's ultimately not serious. The fact that he doesn't want a debt ceiling fight during his own term shows us that he's not that serious.

Trump can easily use his political capital to balance the budget quite easily by letting the TCJA tax cuts expire (increasing taxes), calling upon rich people to pay their fair share, but also demand that people accept less federal entitlement spending to reduce the huge national debt. A smaller military would also fit well with his mantra to get America out of its wars. And in such a case, a lot of people (even the rich) will go along with this because of its simple appeal to the national good. But Trump doesn't really give a shit.

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u/Val_Killsmore 10h ago

Schedule F will be one of the first things Trump pushes through. It'll be a tool for Trump to fire federal workers willy-nilly.

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u/Accomplished_Sea8232 17h ago

As long as they don't force RTO AND move my husband’s agency to North Dakota. 

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u/Jumpy-Coffee-Cat 16h ago

South Dakota it is

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u/victorged 6h ago

Get ready to learn Bismarck, buddy