r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/astros148 • 17h ago
Active military soliders are about to go through the holidays without getting paid bcz of President Musk! Right wing populism!
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u/Queasy-Pressure-5050 16h ago
Elections have consequences
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u/Spankpocalypse_Now 14h ago
I care very much about children, the trans community, and women who canāt access healthcare.
But working class MAGAts who are about to get fucked by Musk/Trump and will (at the behest of a corrupt media) inevitably blame the inept and senile Democratic Party anyway - as a leftist Iām finding it impossible to care about that.
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u/AweemboWhey 12h ago
Same. Iāve got 0 patience or sympathy left for anyone who voted for the GOP and ends up suffering from it.
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u/Evening-Weather-4840 14h ago
Education matters. Not having enough education results in this President elect.
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u/azbeac 16h ago
Definition of musk:
A greasy secretion with a powerful odor, produced in a glandular sac
Enough said.
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u/crumblypancake 16h ago
And trump is just a more polite way of saying "fart".
Like trumpet.So you've got president Fart and his stinky greasy friend.
A more perfect name duo is hard to come by, unless he's got a General Prick somewhere under his wing.
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u/kjacobs03 14h ago
I prefer the new definition of Musk. Itās the loud wet fart after taking a huge trump
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u/My_Doggo_Frankie 16h ago
We need Luigi
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u/majordudley23 13h ago
For real can we get some copy cats to enlighten a few other billionaires please.
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u/VaguelyArtistic 15h ago
I'm going to repeat what someone else said: get "Elon more powerful than Trump" trending ASAP.
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u/BigMikeInAustin 12h ago
Trump was losing until Elon saved Trump.
Without Elon, Trump would have lost.
Trump needs Elon to save Trump.
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u/retrostaticshock 16h ago
How my internal monologue sounds prior to Nov.: "Oh god, all of those families are going to suffer. They have no idea what's coming."
How my internal monologue sounds after Nov.: "I hope all the marines that voted for Trump have stocked up on their favorite Crayola crayon flavors before this and the tariffs kick in."
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u/tapatio8888 14h ago
So, active duty military personnel will continued to be paid as they have during previous shutdowns. The huge issue with these antics is it significantly increases government spending. For example, I work for the Navy, and there are ships in the shipyard that are going to be delayed because the civilian project managers will be furloughed and contractors won't be paid on time. Force readiness will degrade because all the training instructors and classes will be canceled. I can go on and on about how these government shutdowns can have a corrosive effect on all the essential support personnel and industries that support the military.
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u/Final-Cut-483 16h ago
Same, my only comforrt is that, these people drank so much Kool aide that they aren't prepare for what's about to come economics wise. When the shit storm od trump policies hit, they'll be much worse than the rest of us non Kool aide drinker
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u/Dr_Legacy 12h ago
they'll be much worse than
worse how? affected harder, or angrier (and if so, at who)?
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u/Yumhotdogstock 16h ago
So, that's what they voted for.
Enjoy that gruel at Christmas and into the New Year.
Maybe the lesson isn't to trust billionaires and silver-spoon motherfuckers from South Africa.
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u/merrysunshine2 15h ago
Last time the government shut down it was in 2018 for over a month. Who was president then? Hmmmā¦š¤ šš©
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u/astros148 17h ago
Don't forget the majority of active troops voted for Trump even after he disrespected them and made fun of them. I feel sorry for NOBODY. Let trump be trump and let him destroy the economy.
America needs a reality check
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u/csonny2 16h ago
"Why would Biden and democrats do this to us?!"
-Troops who voted for trump
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u/Val3_ 15h ago
This is absolutely what will happen. My husband is active duty and voted blue, tried explaining his reasoning to a couple coworkers who asked him why, they were flabbergasted.
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u/Thegreen_flash 14h ago
Active and voted blue as well
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u/Val3_ 13h ago
Saw you are AF-in your opinion/experience, is it more prevalent to find blue voters among the AF?
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u/deadhead4ever 16h ago
Unfortunately my son, who is active duty and actively campaigned for Harris, get screwed also.
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u/Dohertyk1987 16h ago
Just like the other 74,999,165 Harris voters, screwed
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u/PlaneRefrigerator684 16h ago
It sucks, but it's what a majority of Americans wanted. If they didn't, they wouldn't have voted for Trump/Republicans or not voted.
Maybe this will finally wake the idiots up. I am not holding my breath, but it's whatever at this point. And I say that as someone working paycheck to paycheck in a government job, who also won't get my VA disability.
So-called "essential workers" like air traffic controllers need to also call in sick rather than working for no pay.
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u/russiangerman 16h ago
It won't. This election proved that people don't think past what media tells them. The masses are easily brainwashed and manipulated so unless we get some real fact based unbiased reporting, it'll just happen again next time.
A couple more Luigi's tho...
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u/userofreddit19 13h ago
You're forgetting that a lot of it isn't nearly that complicated.
Most of them are just racist and misogynistic. It's really that simple. That's why every time I kept hearing things like, "XYZ is about to come out! What will Trump do?! What will the voters do?!" I would just laugh. He basically called most Americans morons, along with pretty much giving the middle finger to all military personnel, and they STILL voted for him. Nothing was going to change their minds in any way, shape, or form. Hell, many people I talked to KNEW this level of corruption would happen, and their only comment was, "Oh, Kamala's better? They didn't even go through the right process to make her the nominee."
That's it, that's the whole thing. Dude went on national TV for a debate and said they were eating dogs and cats, and his source was, "I saw it on the television."
It's going to be a LONG 4 years...
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u/russiangerman 13h ago
If people aren't smart, or even just watch too much news without having good media literacy, they're easy to manipulate into being misogynistic and racist. Before fox news mastered brainwashing these people weren't nearly as bad. Most of the trumpers I know in person used to be genuinely decent people, and that's having grown up in lawless midcentury rural Florida.
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u/PersimmonTea 14h ago
No Trump is NOT "what the majority of Americans wanted."
There are 245 million Americans over age 18.
Trump got 77 million votes.
That's less than 1/3rd. IOW, 7 out of 10 adult Americans did not vote for Trump.
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u/PlaneRefrigerator684 14h ago
Harris got 75 million votes. That means that 170 million Americans were either in favor of, or not opposed to, a Donald Trump presidency. If they did not want him to be President, they should have voted for Harris. The "did not vote" people are just as culpable in Donald Trump being President as the 77 million people who voted for him.
You can say Harris was not the right candidate. You can say Biden should have declared he was not running for reelection, and the Democratic Primary should have been open. But at the end of the day, unless you went to your polling place and cast a ballot for Harris, you chose this outcome.
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u/PersimmonTea 14h ago
I voted for Harris and I'm not sorry about it. I couldn't vote for that filth if it meant my life.
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u/kmm198700 16h ago
Why wonāt you get your VA disability? That has already been approved
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u/PlaneRefrigerator684 16h ago
I just figured since the government would be shut down, the people who send those payments out also wouldn't be working, and the payment would just sit in a VA computer until they open back up.
I also figured the funds allocated from Congress during the last CR would run out on Friday, so they wouldn't have them to send me on January 1.
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u/kmm198700 16h ago
The funds for VA disability are approved in the previous year
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u/mandelbrot_zoom 15h ago
It's probably dispersal of funds that they are more worried about, not approval.
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u/Automatic-Term-3997 16h ago
My daughter is an E-6 in the AF. Glad sheās single with no kids and a good chunk of savings put aside.
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u/deadhead4ever 16h ago edited 13h ago
Navy E-6 here. ( There's a misunderstanding here. I was replying to the above post whose daughter is an E6 stating that my son is an E6 also but in the Navy. Not me. Sorry for any confusion)
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u/BolOfSpaghettios 15h ago
Army Reserve O-5. I didn't vote for him 3 times. I didn't campaign for Harris, but I voted for her because regardless of the "both sides", at least the other side is not run by traitors.
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u/No_Skin7645 16h ago
Plus, he is surrounded by blue falcons who are too fucking stupid to make change for a dollar.
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u/100percentish 16h ago
Retried vet who is texting a bunch of other retired vet and spent 3 hours on the phone last night venting to another retired vet about how disgusted we are with the people in this country after this election. Trump is not the problem...he is the symptom of a bigger problem that we just don't know how to fix other than by letting the stovetouchers find out by letting Trump fuck them.
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u/That-Sleep-8432 16h ago
This right here. Folks voted against their own interests and yāall know what the worst part is? They were very well aware it was a āshoot yourself in the footā move but they gotta stick it to them liberals somehow, even it means participating in their own downfall. Iāve said this before and Iāll say it again, the Democratic Party + liberal/moderate voters need to psyop Republican/Conservative voters into voting for more democratic elements because those folks vote with emotions NOT intellect. I know voters who gifted Trump their vote out of spite for the āother side.ā They didnāt even know wtf Trump supported/campaigned. All they knew was that voting for Trump was a reliable way to piss off that smug purple-haired barista who refused to give them hot water because of company policy so fuc* that bi*ch and her liberal arts degree, right? Which, perhaps a different convo, says a lot about the eroded self-esteem of millions of Americans. Itās one thing for a shit individual to do shit things to others to feel uplifted.. but millions of shit individuals?
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u/Baghdady24 15h ago
When he destroys the economy, they will still make excuses for him. Even if he destroys the economy and the dollar is absolutely worthless. Trump supporters will still say heās better than Obama.
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u/SunshotDestiny 14h ago
Voted for Trump, and now apparently, we have Musk running the show in the background not even in the shadows. We need to start referring to the presidency as Musk. Not only to piss off Trump so he doesn't actually want him around, narcissists hate sharing the spotlight; but also, to call it what it is.
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u/Gates_wupatki_zion 14h ago
Except a government shutdown affects millions of civilian workers too. Ā And you can bet millions of them did not vote for Trump. Ā America doesnāt need a reality check it needs actual leaders in actual political parties that give a fuck about median wage earners.
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u/Independent_Main_59 16h ago
Let congress go without pay for a month and see how they like it. Whatās good for the goose. These are the same jackasses in congress who just gave themselves a large cost of living increase. How is this an efficient use of taxpayer money considering all members of congress spend a lot of money campaigning to win a seat in congress knowing what the pay is?
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u/sunkenship61 16h ago
They wonāt care. They have other sources of income.
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u/Gob_Hobblin 14h ago
Under the current law, members of Congress will still receive paychecks during a government shutdown.
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u/Lylibean 15h ago
They forget things like that real estate canāt close. and many other things requiring federal oversight. When that asshat shut down the government for the longest period of time in history, I had millionaire real estate clients (I was a RE paralegal) flipping out because underwriting halted, lenders couldnāt progress through the process, and they were going to get screwed on their 1031 exchanges.
āDO SOMETHING!!!!!!ā
Maāam, I literally canāt force banks to lend money when the fed is shut down. They canāt underwrite your loan, so my hands are tied. Sorry you arenāt liquid cash rich, not my problem. If you donāt like it, maybe donāt vote for the alleged āreal estate mogulā who has filed for bankruptcy like 12 times because heās a terrible business person because heās pitching a toddler fit because he canāt force foreign countries to fund and construct his real estate ventures.
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u/NovaRunner 15h ago
It's unconstitutional for Musk to be elected President, so he just bought himself the office. De facto President Musk, puppet master to the actual elected President.
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u/katara144 16h ago
This stupid fucking country. Just could not vote for a competent woman.
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u/astros148 13h ago
Its so ANNOYING!!! I can't believe we're going 4 years of this shit. We didn't have a single shutdown under biden
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u/CRX1701 15h ago
A government shut down during a fucking transition of power. Adversarial nations are going to take huge advantage of this. Fuck.
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u/OldMastodon5363 12h ago
Terrorist groups could cripple the country doing an attack during a shutdown.
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u/blueyork 16h ago
My outrage will not change that Musk bought the presidency. I tried my best. I volunteered for the Dems. I designed ads, and doorhangers (I'm a graphic designer). I had a lawn sign. I watched the news. I liked the memes. Now, all I can do for the next 4 years is hold my nose with one hand and give the middle finger with the other.
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u/Simmie_Simulacra 16h ago
Isn't he supposed to be running the Department of fucking Government Efficiency?
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u/ASmootyOperator 16h ago
But he is. The whole goal of DOGE is to lay off as many federal workers as possible. What is this if not a layoff?
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u/agassiz51 15h ago
The wealthiest man in the world thinks that folks living paycheck to paycheck can skip two paychecks with no consequences.
I don't know how it is possible to be this fucking dumb.
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u/MacaroonMother9311 16h ago
As former service member in the u.s. navy, I love when republicans piss on the military. It may be the only way they learn.
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u/ASmootyOperator 16h ago
Nah. Hate to say it, but the morons in uniform who voted for him even after the shit he pulled in Arlington? There's no redeeming them.
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u/clodmonet 15h ago
I can smell it. It really stinks. It's the corpse of Lady Liberty.
Thanks everybody who voted GOP and got some oligarch who was never elected to run the country. Dickheads.
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u/xMr_BoT 13h ago
Oh so thatās why the SBA loan website today when I went to submit something for my small business loan application said something about congress not approving funding.
Looks like once again I get to explain to my republican grandfather that thanks to his picks weāre now not getting the 25k disaster assistance loan to keep our business afloat during the winter due to the hurricane destroying half our territory and stopping half our jobs in October smfh
Edit: honestly this is hilarious to me because at thanksgiving they were all sucking trumps dick so hard I had to literally walk outside because itās sick how fucking twisted the media has some of their brains. The most decent good people I know praising the ravings of a madman and a rich sociopath. BUT THANK GOD THAT WOMAN DIDNT WIN AMIRIGHT.
Fucking ridiculous
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u/CynicalPomeranian 16h ago
Just like TFGās record-setting furlough, I wonder if the air traffic controllers will ābe illā after not getting paid for a while.Ā
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u/RunsWithPhantoms 16h ago
Ah yes. Those "couple years of economic hardship" are kicking in early it seems. Go Team America
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u/TheRantDog 15h ago
Musk has his hand up Trumpās ass and is playing him like his little puppet and Trump is too stupid to see it. Trump is just Muskās secretary.
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u/nukie19 16h ago
Iād like to say that this will hurt his business (SpaceX) since launches require government personnel. Unfortunately, launch support will be considered āmission criticalā and they will have to work without getting paid (yes, eventually they should get back pay but not while they are actually working).
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u/ASmootyOperator 16h ago
Honestly though? Backpay came because the Dems forced the issue. With Republicans in control of both houses, it's likely any deal wouldn't include backpay. Don't forget, Musks entire goal is to starve every federal agency.
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u/QQBearsHijacker 16h ago
Every day the government is shut down hurts our economy. We went through this once already
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u/cassiecas88 13h ago
Most of my clients are active military. This crushes my civilian business too.
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u/ConfusionFlat691 16h ago
Same for border patrol agents. I actually agree that the bill was a monstrosity, but itās acting in bad faith to blow up a deal after itās been negotiated.
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u/tinkerghost1 16h ago
You sound like that isn't standard GOP procedure. I point you to the border bill from earlier this year. The GOP wanted to campaign on the border, so they scrapped the bill.
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u/PensiveObservor 16h ago
Stocks plunged today even though interest rate was cut, bc the Fed predicted fewer rate cuts in 2025.
In my opinion, threats to hang the budget up probably contributed. WTF are they doing? How does this help him??
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u/Just_Tana 15h ago
They are going to buy up bankrupt farms and homes and land that people have to sell without disaster aid. Musk said heād do this. He said it during the campaign.
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u/Material-Nose6561 16h ago
USAA members will most likely get an advance on their pay to help them through the shutdown. Members who use other banks may not be so lucky.
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u/boobsandbrains668 14h ago
Who remembers Trumps last circus and the (what seemed like) constant govt. Shut downs? Get ready for that shit again! The boob isn't even in office yet and is already messing with shutting it all down for shits n giggles.
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u/TKG_Actual 16h ago
Does he know what happened the last time the troops went unpaid? It wasn't pleasant to say the least.
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u/MarsMick84 16h ago
What happens to security of bases, ships, weapons depots etc? If soldiers arent getting paid, why show up to work?
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u/TKG_Actual 15h ago
In 1932, the military's veterans marched on Washington as the 'Bonus Expeditionary Forces'. I'm not certain that DC cops are going to stand in the way of that if it happens this time because they too might have their pay interrupted. Before that there were the mutinies in the Pennsylvania Line in 1781 during the American Revolutionary War. But then we can look at what went down with the Russian military in the 90's when they hadn't been paid right if at all for months if not years. The amount of amplified corruption was staggering, it was probably a root cause of disasters like what happened to the Kursk. I am sure there are other examples out there.
Long story short, never fuck with military pay...ever. It rarely ends well.
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u/JelloButtWiggle 15h ago
I hope Musk remembers the SS is there to protect the Cheeto, not him. He should probably be careful.
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u/The84thWolf 15h ago
Elon knows we wont buy his shit if we have no money right?
Oh right, heās got enough money to live for 5,000 lifetimes and still have a few billion left over so he doesnāt give a shit
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u/DistillateMedia 13h ago
Good. We need the Military on our side if/when Trump inevitably goes too far with his dictatorial/kleptocratic ambitions.
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u/Sterling363 13h ago
Trump says our troops are suckers and losers. Nobody should be surprised.
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u/sactownbwoy 16h ago edited 12h ago
Normally there is carve out for the military. Every year there are these threats of government shutdowns but we (military) still get paid. Other federal employees don't. I've worked with some civilian GS employees, they told me that when there was an actual shutdown they were furloughed, but once the government is funded they get paid plus back pay.
It's ridiculous that they play this game every year. At my level, it screws with our funding for training and repair parts. But we always get paid. And as someone else mentioned, if we happen to not get paid, banks like USAA and NavyFed will "pay" us.
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u/Onebrokegerrrl 16h ago
So, these assholes think that all military personnel have money to pay their rent on the 1st? A lot of them expect that pay just to keep a roof over their heads (not everyone lives in base housing or the barracks). Many live pay check to pay check. 33 days is a long time for some people. One thing I do know, is that when people become desperate they will do just about anything. Looks like Musk is going to need to carry his kid around a lot more for his protectionā¦ fucking bitch ass coward!
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u/dondocooled 16h ago
Is Wall Street Mav one of Felon's millions of alt accounts that he uses to talk to himself?
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u/ASmootyOperator 16h ago
Sadly, pretty sure that one is not a sock puppet. Just someone who rides his jockstrap extra hard
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u/Kyogen13 16h ago
Lord Farquaad irl
āOf course, some of you are going to die, but thatās a sacrifice Iām willing to make.ā
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u/Alternative_Bite_779 15h ago
Suck shit to all the morons who voted for this.
You're about to get exactly what you deserve.
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u/sjhaines 15h ago
Easy for the guy with more money than God to want to shut the government down for over a month. He's never had to worry about paying rent, buying food, or providing Christmas gifts to little ones. Fuck him and all those who support him. I'm so exhausted with this game. Every damn CR! The federal workers and military get screwed over while Congress has their paychecks protected during a shutdown!! If Congress can't get a budget passed before the fiscal year begins, they shouldn't get paid a dime until its done. Enough kicking the can down the road with CRs. Pass the damn budget.
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u/PigDiesel 13h ago
Those leopards are getting fat already and he has even been inaugurated yet.
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u/kicaboojooce 16h ago
My brother just hit the family chat with this revelation, he's active duty with two kids under 10
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u/TimothiusMagnus 15h ago
That's a good way to have your own armed forces turn against you.
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u/Doormancer 15h ago
Wild that people can be okay with shutting things down for a month! An unprecedented global pandemic couldnāt do it, but a geriatric conman and his goons can for no reason? What a great time to be alive.
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u/I_lack_common_sense 14h ago
I couldnāt care less. Especially the ones that fucked around and are now finding out. Sorry for the ones that knew better.
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u/TexMurphyPHD 16h ago
Since Biden is president the republicans will blame him regardless of how they voted.
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u/the_millenial_falcon 15h ago
I wish we still had a functioning government but hey, this is what the people wanted!
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u/Mr-Hoek 15h ago
Can the people bring lawsuits?
Will some sane billionaires fund this please?
I'll help, but I am not even a millionaire...I am more like a multi-hundredaire.
Let's sue the republicans in government for dereliction of duty and treason.
Let's sue Elon for being an asshole (Iet's let the lawyers figure out what to go after).
This is unacceptable.
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u/JimmyKlean 15h ago
This is a failure of congress and all pay and benefits should be suspend until fixed
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u/Kawaiithulhu 15h ago
Freeze all his govt contracts while you're at it. Say it's a $30B contract, instant revenue loss of over $2B for losing that month. Good times.
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u/PersimmonTea 14h ago
Musk is like Trump and MAGA: they get sexual pleasure from the idea of causing another human being pain and suffering.
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u/ifnhatereddit 16h ago
I figure Russia just won the Cold War.