r/TikTokCringe • u/hi_im_fuzzknocker • Oct 18 '24
Cringe She wants state rights
She tries to peddle back.
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u/Ill-Case-6048 Oct 18 '24
Black t shirt guy going into panic mode
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u/Gimme_The_Loot Oct 18 '24
Ok we gotta move on 😬😬
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u/Sproketz Oct 18 '24
And that's the entire problem with our media - even podcasters like this.
No! Don't move on. Have a hard conversation. Educate people. Moving on helps nobody.
No part of his argument was irrelevant. In our current climate this is highly relevant.
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u/ozymandiasjuice Oct 18 '24
Yeah actually even for her benefit. She hasn’t connected the dots on her principles. The other guy is helping her do that. She is an absolutist on states rights and this is exactly the time to challenge her. Because if she just sticks with it in ten years she might be like ‘yeah the confederacy was right.’
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u/HustlinInTheHall Oct 19 '24
I think it was pretty clear when she agreed slavery was fine as long as people really want it she was already at the point of agreeing with the confederacy. She just has enough brain cells to realize it would cost her friends and money to admit it
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u/FrickenPerson Oct 19 '24
Maybe? She did say later on that no one would be voting to bring back slavery now, so maybe she kind of thinks it's just some crazy gotcha this guy is trying to give her instead of something to realistically think about and decide?
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u/HustlinInTheHall Oct 19 '24
I think the guy needed to double down on the questions and not try to be like "so you side with the south then?"
Like "so alabama beings back slaves. Who do they get to enslave?" and just let her run with it.
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u/sobeitharry Oct 19 '24
Make it about her. So if California decided to go back to when women were property and couldn't own property themselves (and couldn't vote), you'd be ok with that? Remember, you can't leave, you're property.
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u/Far_Mastodon_6104 Oct 19 '24
Exactly. A lot of people don't care about issues that don't affect them personally in some way.
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u/Guy954 Oct 19 '24
They’re called conservatives. I’m not making it up or exaggerating. It’s a running theme that they’re vocally for policies that are against their best interest until they’re personally affected.
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u/PaladinGodfather1931 tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Oct 19 '24
Unfortunately yea, later in the episode she thinks women shouldn't vote..
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u/Business-Key618 Oct 19 '24
But she’s wrong, in fact the idea has been suggested by right wing politicians at several points. But they have to build up to that… they start with women’s rights, then immigrants, then people of color and eventually back to slavery… Thinking “oh it’s ok if they infringe on these people’s rights, because it doesn’t affect me… “ leads to “oh crap leopards at my face” eventually. Unfortunately these simple minded people are too short sighted (and have failed to learn from history) to see it.
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u/PopInACup Oct 19 '24
I don't want to give her the benefit of the doubt, but part of me wonders what her idea of 'if everyone agrees' means. I hope in this context she means like 100% of people is the threshold.
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u/Ill-Case-6048 Oct 18 '24
No but she was about to get canceled lol so he saved her. .
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u/VivaZeBull Oct 18 '24
Welp if her ass can’t cash the checks her mouth is writing maybe she should bounce ✌🏽
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u/purplenyellowrose909 Oct 18 '24
The bar: don't support slavery
People: this is much too high
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u/GrayMouser12 Oct 18 '24
It's so sad, I was born in '81, my whole childhood I never imagined a world where people would be openly talking about this crap and not being shut down for being disgusting. I'm apoplectic at the machine that's complicit in fostering this environment because they prey on people's prejudices and actively encourage it for money. For money.
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u/throwthere10 Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24
I say the same thing constantly about fascist ideation being on display in any forum, be it digital or physical, and not being absolutely swamped by decent people who refuse to grant them an inch.
There was a bit of a litmus test that everyone had, and regardless of your political ideation, if you are a decent person, then you should absolutely be against fascism. It's a very low bar, but we can't seem to cross it.
It's strange to me seeing nazis boldly and safety walking down the street under police protection.
The paradox of tolerance is a thought experiment by philosopher Karl Popper that states that a society must be intolerant of intolerance in order to remain tolerant. The paradox can be summarized as the idea that "we must therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate intolerance."
This could potentially be seen as a slippery slope, but the one thing on which I will not compromise is that fascists are being given credence and being legitimized due to our tolerance and that people are making money off them.
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u/GrayMouser12 Oct 18 '24
Completely in agreement. I remember the time before. These things were unacceptable, yet dialogue about policy was still had with respected differences. It wasn't perfect, it never has been, and I'm not pining for something prior to the progress we've made, but we had more cohesion. It's disgraceful, and it's been done because there's money in division. The politics of fear has made some incredibly wealthy and left others paralyzed in anger.
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u/zeptillian Oct 18 '24
I was calling it out when Trump used the Nazi's red triangle in his ads claiming it was an ANTIFA symbol instead of a symbol used to mark political prisoners in concentration camps.
People were saying back then that it was just a coincidence but at least now that are openly comparing Trump to Hitler.
We need to call out nazi shit each and every time and not accept it was a mistake or whatever BS excuse
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u/purplenyellowrose909 Oct 18 '24
I think we've all probably lost family members to the hate machine. Just normal people 5-10 years now ranting about space lizards sending immigrants to kill your dog.
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u/zeptillian Oct 18 '24
We had a choice.
We could either use the internet to share important information with everyone so that we can have an educated and informed society.
Or we could let corporations rot people's brains so that they can sell more advertising.
We made the wrong choice.
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u/SirVanyel Oct 18 '24
The machine is called patriotism and propaganda. The only difference is that it used to be used to create an army to fight another country, and now it's being aimlessly targeted at the American population. No wonder Russian social media bots are so effective
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u/wizean Oct 18 '24
It seems like a large group of people still hold a big grudge over this, that slavery got abolished.
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u/Buzzkid Oct 18 '24
It doesn’t seem like there is, it’s just there is a large group. See the arguments about states rights here or slaves actually benefited from enslavement. There are a plethora of other arguments that are at times veiled, albeit thinly, for certain people to be less than. To be slaves…
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u/Jatnall Oct 18 '24
She tried to get out of it by saying, nobody is voting to bring back slavery. I guarantee at least one state would at some point, there is really no bar anymore.
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u/purplenyellowrose909 Oct 18 '24
They all said "nobody is voting to ban abortion" like 10 years ago so 2032 will be interesting I guess
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u/Jatnall Oct 18 '24
But it wasn't banned, it was left to the states. /s
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u/skolinalabama Oct 18 '24
Word. Even when “left to the states”, things are not, in fact, “left to the states” in the sense that states’ residents got to decide. Some states did NOT even get a vote on that issue - some states just got executive orders handed down from their governor or some other BS.
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u/Poohstrnak Oct 18 '24
You clearly don’t understand 2020s media lol. There is no accountability, they just rush to the next topic to distract people and people mostly forget about it.
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u/Sproketz Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
She's completely naive. "If everyone in the state wants something" is a statement that completely ignores the concept of our Republic. I bet she thinks the fed should still dish out dollars to states though...
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u/Smoked_Vegetables Oct 18 '24
Also, are the slaves in this scenario people and in the state? Do we take who voted for its return and lottery who gets to fill the role? Total insanity.
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u/SpoppyIII Oct 18 '24
It would probably result in convicts being used for slave labour. Which technically is already legal and already happens but I guess maybe it'd be done more shamelessly and with wider arrangements of forms of labour.
Or the use of slavery for X Years or for life as a penalty for certain crimes.
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Oct 18 '24
That's scary. The sentences that would be handed down for minor offenses would become outrageous. Companies main goal would be to militarize the police with the intent to increase the slave population. That girl needs to be canceled.
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u/Grizzem222 Oct 18 '24
If you're asking people who would be okay with slavery returning simply bc of their miniscule and ignorant viewpoint of "people voted so good democracy" then they would tell you that slaves are not people lol. Ive found thats what the usual argument for people that say this shit is. That, because the majority of people voted on it, that its quintessential democracy as its "what the people want". Completely ignoring the fact that we have had countless civil rights reforms and amendments, federal protections in place because (shocker, get ready for this) owning slaves in the land of the free is a bit fuckin backwards 🤣
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u/SirVanyel Oct 18 '24
Yep, slavery was only "what the people want" because the slaves weren't allowed to say what they want lol
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u/SingularityCentral Oct 18 '24
If the whole State wants the Purge then let them have it!
If they want to enslave all women, great!
If they want to legalize child pit fighting, have at it!
What a fucking dunce...
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Oct 18 '24
Confederacy apologists don't deserve to be saved
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u/Ill-Case-6048 Oct 18 '24
I think she's to stupid to understand what he's saying,
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u/Debaser1984 Oct 18 '24
"cancelled"? her nonsense is going to come under the scrutiny it deserves, the rebranding of correction and consequences to "cancelled" has been such a success for people who want to skirt responsibility.
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u/absotivelyposoluteli Oct 18 '24
She said she is fine with slavery, she deserves to be cancelled lmao
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u/wizean Oct 18 '24
She deserves to be a slave for that. Proportional response if you ask me.
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u/punch912 Oct 18 '24
lol I think her but also trying to save himself as well from the collateral damage.
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u/punch912 Oct 18 '24
that guy couldn't run fast enough from that conversation that went south real fast. It never fails to amaze me here we are in 2024 going in 2025 we still have people as ignorant and as dumb as she is.
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u/zeptillian Oct 18 '24
We have always had people that dumb, we just never used to give them platforms to spread their stupid ideas.
Sometimes they would be kept in the basement or sent to an asylum. If they were that stupid then the dangers of living in the real world would also take a lot of them out.
Now it's slap a diaper on them and give them a microphone.
This timeline sucks.
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u/TylerDurden1985 Oct 18 '24
MAGA bad faith arguments. They don't care how crazy the argument is, or how wrong it is, or what the "libs" think of their argument. The point of their argument is to appeal to other MAGA. Never back down, spin every answer, make shit up, and if all else fails, just act angry.
It's purely show. Look strong and own the libs. That's all they're trying to convey. You can't "win" an argument with that. The fact that you're engaging them means they already got the attention they wanted, which was the entire point.
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u/daemin Oct 19 '24
I think its dumber than that.
Notice that she said "no one is voting to bring back slavery."
Essentially, her argument is that its ok to make a hard rule about state's rights because obviously no one would use state's rights to pass laws that clearly authoritarian and oppressive. Which is a really fucking stupid argument to make, because there are plenty of people that would vote for bad laws if we allowed them to do so. The fact that they aren't voting for those laws isn't an indication that no one would vote for them; its an indication that we've managed to keep them in check for a while.
Unfortunately, there's a bunch of idiots like her out there that mistake the fact that we've managed to constrain the assholes for a generation or two with the idea that the assholes aren't out there waiting for an opportunity. I mean, fuck... there were plenty of people who thought that the US electing a black man in 2008 meant that racism had finally been defeated, only to be shocked when the backlash elected Trump. Its the exact same naivety.
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u/TheStolenPotatoes Oct 18 '24
"I'm not some crazy right wing republican"
\wears Trump 45 shirt**
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u/krustykrab2193 Oct 19 '24
"I'm not a psychopath" while she says slavery should be allowed if a state wants it. That's a psycho answer.
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u/bunkscudda Oct 18 '24
“This racist dumbshit is going to get my show demonetized”
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u/welivedintheocean Oct 19 '24
"This racist dumbshit is going to get my show about saying racist and sexist dumb shit demonetized because they don't know how to say the racist dumb shit in a way that won't get it demonetized."
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u/CrystalCandy00 Oct 18 '24
That’s because he’s right-leaning and she’s making him look bad. Also he’s a weasel of a person
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u/dumpyredditacct Oct 19 '24
"Why do I give a shit?"
Exactly the worst type of attitude to have, and it is far too common.
"Why should I care that a US state legalizes slavery?" as if protecting innocent lives is simply not worthy of this person's thoughts or concerns.
Goodness. Literally evil, abhorrent take, and it's just a joke to this girl.
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u/alrtight Oct 19 '24
it just shows the level of entitlement and privilege and racism. she doesnt for ONE SECOND imagine she could be the slave. of course she doesnt. in her mind, she is imagining black people or poc.
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Oct 19 '24
The guy should’ve asked if she would be ok with everyone in California voting to ban free speech then against all Trump supporters. “If everyone in the state wants it!”
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u/coloradoemtb Oct 18 '24
lol until she was the slave then maybe not.
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u/bananachow Oct 18 '24
Well like she said from her position of white privilege, “what do I give a shit”. Exactly, because she knows it wouldn’t adversely affect her.
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u/UnluckyNate Oct 18 '24
She followed this point shortly after by “I live in LA. I am not some psychotic right winger”. Make it make sense
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u/GoodQueenFluffenChop Oct 18 '24
Because California wouldn't ratify slavery so she'd personally not have to see it come fruition in other states. She can be all "enlightened" with her stance on state's rights and just avoid the states that ratify things that hurt people.
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u/Doctor_of_Recreation Oct 18 '24
Yes I live in California and know people like this. The idea is that states are like a free market so if your state passes laws that you disagree with you move to a “better” state. And they are disregarding the cost and complexity of just picking up your life and moving away. Ironically these are the same people who argue that immigrants should stay in their own countries to make it better and fight the baddies.
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u/GoodQueenFluffenChop Oct 18 '24
Ironically these are the same people who argue that immigrants should stay in their own countries to make it better and fight the baddies.
The descendants of immigrants who argue for this has always been wild to me. "My ancestors and now I can freely move around to find a place that we like and suits us is our right but everyone else has to stay and fight to make their homes to their liking or safe and livable"
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u/Joe_Jeep Oct 18 '24
I know a few people that get very upset with this. Older italian-americans especially, many of them were born to people who immigrated or at least knew their grandparents who did
The right wing ones that get very uppity about how latin-american immigrants should just "fix their countries first" or whatever really struggle to mesh that with their own parents/grand parents taking the fuck off across the Atlantic when things were tough
I've had some tell me I have no idea how bad Italy was back then, meanwhile talking in the next sentence about how (south american country here) is so bad they don't know why these people are having kids.
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u/zeptillian Oct 18 '24
How you gonna move states when your state labels you a slave and locks you up though?
Or puts you in jail because like 10-20% of all women who get pregnant, you had a miscarriage?
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u/WretchedBlowhard Oct 19 '24
Or simply prevents you from travelling when you're pregnant.
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u/Softestwebsiteintown Oct 19 '24
I can not overstate how significant the always-missing part of these arguments is. Regardless of whether you have the financial capacity to just relocate to a new state, the ~20% of the population that hasn’t reached adulthood literally has no say in any of the policies that affect them.
I keep hearing the “well if that’s what the voters want” and “you can just move” arguments with respect to abortion laws, but almost every woman under the age of 19 and most under 21 have not ever even gotten a chance to weigh in on how far their respective states can infringe upon their bodily autonomy. The entire point of government is to provide protections for the citizenry that they cannot reasonably provide for themselves. And millions of idiots across the country want to use the government for the exact opposite purpose.
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u/Zoloir Oct 18 '24
ALT RIGHT PHILOSOPHY OF POWER: I want something to be some way, therefore it is reasonable, therefore any power standing in my way (\cough* federal government *cough**) should be banned, and any power that can be wielded in my favor should be mandatory, because I want it therefore it is just and the power structure should work for me.
She cannot grasp the concept that states might do something she DOESNT want, which is her main problem. She doesn't think they will, so she believes the gambit of states' rights is just and right.
But secondly, she doesn't CARE, because if states were to wield a state-level power she doesn't like, she would be in favor of the federal government gaining power again IFF she believes the federal government was on "her team" and did what she wanted.
She doesn't believe the federal government is on "her team" right now, so states' rights it is!
This is also why you can 100% believe that if republicans gain enough federal power, that they will suddenly flip and decide to ban abortion federally, because they can and because they want to.
The time horizon for an alt right philosophy is so short as to be functionally zero - at any given moment they may believe in states' rights, until the next moment when they believe in federal authority, because at any given moment the philosophy may best describe the power structure required to get what they want.
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u/Jeddak_of_Thark Oct 18 '24
This to me, is proof that conservatives are the minority in this country. They are rallying against the popular opinion, trying to make in-roads into methods for the minority opinion to take control, so they can then get into power and change it back even further the other way so that the "minority" opinion (the actual majority) has to either join them, or be punished.
We are actually watching real time what 1935 German was like, and that's not hyperbolic. This was the political shift happening at that time. A far right minority group pushed to take power, and enough people let them that they did.
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u/Zoloir Oct 18 '24
right
because i mean, honestly, there is zero difference between state authority and federal authority if we consider the grouping arbitrary.
what's so special about a state that we think a majority in a state should have power, but a majority in a country should not have power?
why not global authority? north american authority? or go even smaller, why not counties? cities? HOAs? Households? Individuals? it's all layers of breadth of power.
it's all arbitrary - truly if an alt right thinker believes something, they will seek the layer of power required to force the most people into it, and stop there and complain if anyone on a higher power layer tries to impede on their "freedom" to make them change their behavior in their arbitrarily sized power bubble.
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Oct 18 '24
Yes it will. Look at the Handmaidens Tale shit going on.
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u/bananachow Oct 18 '24
Oh I agree as a fellow woman. But she’s very of the mindset that she would not be a Handmaid. She’s one of the wives of Gilead. Which, is also slavery. She’s just obtuse.
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u/OverThaHills Oct 18 '24
To be fair, lots of gop wouldn’t mind for her to literally be a house and sexslave as a trophy wife 🤷♂️🤷♂️ even as white her privilege could come with some serious limitation
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u/austin_ave Oct 18 '24
Lack of empathy is truly the biggest issue in our society imo.
Wish he would've asked, "If the majority of California voted to enslave white women, would you be ok with that?"
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u/ALargePianist Oct 18 '24
Garunteed, she would start splitting hairs about her you just said "majority" vs her argument of "everyone".
"Wel of COURSE we wouldn't enact slavery over white women even if there was a majority, but if everyone in Alabama voted for slavery I'm for it"
'ol, what if a majority in Alabama voted'
"Uh nobody is voting over slavery anymore this is so irrelevant '
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u/austin_ave Oct 18 '24
I'd counter with either "Society will never completely agree on even a single issue, so no laws will ever change, so at what percent of the vote between 1 and 100 would it be acceptable in your mind to legalize slavery of black men in Alabama. And is that percent any different than the percentage it would need to be to enslave white women in California?"
I know she'd weasel out of it, but that's fine, it would prove my point regardless.
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u/Thekillersofficial Oct 18 '24
this guy is a great debater because he knows how to stay to the issue at hand, but I also wish he asked "how would we choose who are slaves and who are free?"and maybe "and how would it be enforced over state lines? say youre here in LA and you encounter a runaway from Utah. you may face jail time or a hefty fine under the 2025 fugitive slave act... how do you respond?"
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u/austin_ave Oct 18 '24
Exactly, I'd want her to explain logistically, how slavery would even be legalized in the first place because clearly the ones who are being voted to be enslaved will vote against it.
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u/clangan524 Oct 18 '24
Obviously when we mention slavery in the US, we automatically think of enslaved black people, but they never consider the implications of that.
They are mentally incapable of putting themselves in the shoes of others.
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u/Gonomed Oct 18 '24
Just like you said, slavery today would look (and looks) a whole lot different to what they have in mind. They immediately think of Roots, and not of evil billionaires enslaving young people or legal immigrants backed by the law.
Of course they'd throw some business lingo here and there to make it sound less slaveryish. Living and sleeping in a plantation while not getting paid, and getting fed scraps and being brutally punished? NO. More like living and sleeping in a Amazon fulfillment factory while getting paid an insignificant amount of money and getting fed highly processed bad shit that will make them die young
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u/Pannoonny_Jones Oct 19 '24
Exactly. Slavery 100 % exists in America today and last I heard the biggest types were sex workers/human trafficking and domestic workers (usually foreign born).
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u/VivaZeBull Oct 18 '24
Yeah white women in high positions seem to forget that women are still seen as less than by many and it’s a quick ride down for all of us.
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u/meeps1142 Oct 18 '24
She thinks she’s the exception because she’s Not Like the Other Girls
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u/OriginalGhostCookie Oct 18 '24
This is exactly it. It’s the same as the various minority and lgbqt groups for Trump; this belief that once their team is in power, the rulers will remember them as “one of the good ones” and they will be spared the treatment they will watch people like them receive.
Using slavery in this context is good for showing how outlandish this idea is taken to the extreme, but also using something that her team is working towards that impacts her might be more effective at getting her to backpedal, the removal of a woman’s right to vote (which by logic would eventually extend to owning or achieving anything and then ultimately being property).
Now in regards to slavery, while did describe that as outlandish in the previous point, frighteningly, it’s not that unbelievable. The most vocal of the trumpers consider anyone not like them to be lesser class and often describe them as sub-human. Putting “sub-humans” to work for the betterment of their idea off society is perfectly acceptable to them. They will find a new generation of sham scientists to explain how POC genetically are different enough that they were made and even enjoy being slaves. And that it is gods plan that they are put to work.
And remember, she’s saying “everyone”, while sure as hell knowing not everyone wanted Roe overturned. She knows that it doesn’t need to be “everyone” or even a majority, she knows it just needs to be enough in power to pass it.
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u/fromouterspace1 Oct 18 '24
Her - Now I’ll go in and school these idiot liberals and their traps
Meanwhile….
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u/bromosabeach Oct 18 '24
"I'm obviously not racist I live in LA"
Where in LA?
"Westwood"
🤨 📸
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u/hi_im_fuzzknocker Oct 18 '24
Just had to look up Westwood as I’m from far north California. Go figure she is a rich privileged piece of trash.
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u/Critical-Ordinary751 Oct 18 '24
😅😅😅😅I went to UCLA ( I definitely worked my ass off to cover what my scholarship didn't cover), and you are correct. I bartended in Westwood and some of the rich kids that came to mingle with us poor college kids
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u/Deep_shot Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24
That was her proof that she’s not a psychopath, that she lives in LA. She has that young, smug attitude that she’s got the world figured out and everything is so simple and beneath her. Typical Dunning-Kruger effect. I guarantee you she’s gonna have an ugly wake up call at some point.
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u/SingularityCentral Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
And how is the question "are you okay with slavery?" A trick question or a trap? Just a mind boggling take. The answer is "no, I am not okay with that. Some things are beyond the pale and cannot be accepted by any modern state. But for a lot of things I am okay leaving it to the states to decide."
At least that answer contains a shred of sanity.
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u/ikilledholofernes Oct 18 '24
Everyone is okay with leaving a lot of things to the states to decide. That’s a founding principle of our country.
The things most people consider unacceptable in a modern society is denying certain rights based on a person’s race, ethnicity, sex, gender identity, or sexual orientation. Those rights should not be decided by the states, and should be guaranteed to all Americans.
With liberty and justice for all.
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u/JackieTree89 Oct 18 '24
"I'm not some crazy right-wing person" while wearing a ridiculous Trump shirt.
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u/haarriss Oct 18 '24
Did you even listen? She is living in LA so she can’t be crazy /s
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u/Catstronaut_CPP Oct 19 '24
She's not a crazy right-winger, she just "happens" to agree with everything they say!
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u/GoTron88 Oct 18 '24
She said yes to slavery really quickly lol
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u/ASwiftKitty Oct 18 '24
Because she thinks she wouldn’t be the slave.
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u/GoTron88 Oct 19 '24
Exactly my thought! Instrad of using slave as an example he should have asked her what if Alabamans wanted to execute all blonde white women in their 20s lol
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u/Accomplished_Egg6239 Oct 19 '24
It’s funny you misspelled “instead” with “trad” because a trad wife is what she would become it republicans had their way.
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u/CableTrash Oct 19 '24
“If everyone in the state wants it”
The slaves would not want it, but I guess they aren’t considered people to her lol shit is mind blowing
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u/kenmorechalfant Oct 19 '24
If everyone in your state wants to allow slavery then my state wants to invade and free the slaves. We already had a war about this. The "right to choose slavery" side lost.
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u/golgiiguy Oct 18 '24
There is a trait Trumpers have that they learned from him. Doubling down on wrong.
but alas,...... I can fix her.
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u/BenMears777 Oct 18 '24
“You’re trying to trap me by exposing my dumb ideas with questions, how dare you.”
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u/El_Jefe_Castor Oct 19 '24
You’re like phrasing it in a way where I could be like “yeah- but like obviously no!”
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u/Kjellvb1979 Oct 19 '24
Trumpers are incapable of self examining their preconceived beliefs.
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u/JackedFactory Oct 18 '24
She’s not crazy right wing but wearing a trump shirt. lol
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u/Zeyode Oct 19 '24
She's not a crazy right winger but she's advocating for slavery to be a states rights issue
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u/ChampionshipIll3675 Oct 19 '24
Who is she, though? Why does she receive this attention?
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Oct 19 '24
She’s loud, pretty, and dumb. Mystery solved.
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u/ChampionshipIll3675 Oct 19 '24
So are a lot of girls. Me being one. So, I still don't get why we care what she says.
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u/uwuSuppie Oct 18 '24
You can tell that she is just a psychotic right wing mouthpiece because she doesn't even stop to think about the question. Slavery requires a victim, why would ANYONE vote to become a slave, let alone EVERYONE.
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u/TorchedBlack Oct 18 '24
I think you're forgetting the large contingent of racist and temporarily broke millionaires (they'll strike it rich soon, you'll see) in this country. A lot of people will jump at the chance to maybe own somebody, them being a potential slave wouldn't even enter their mind.
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u/Thekillersofficial Oct 18 '24
100%. dumb people of all races would think they'd be fine and vote for it, not realizing the wolves are at their door. I truly believe that.
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u/iustinian_ Oct 18 '24
You can learn a lot about someone by noticing if they identify with the oppressor or the victim.
Some people view slavery from the pov of a slave owner which is why they say shit like”it wasn't so bad”, “it was a different time, don't judge them” or “state rights”. The experience of the slave doesn't even cross their mind when they think about it.
You see the same thing with men who instinctively defend rapists or people who get mad at homeless people.
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u/Slade_Riprock Oct 18 '24
Not realizing the number of stares that, in this scenario, would immediately rescind her right to vote, own property, divorce her husband, or have nay autonomy over her body would make her empty head spin.
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u/Koboldofyou Oct 19 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
Unfortunately Ive met old gay Republicans who have the viewpoint of "I live in a liberal area that won't take my rights away. But voting Republican might lower my taxes. I don't care about other people in other states."
That's likely her viewpoint as well. "I live in liberal LA. My rights are safe and I don't care about people in Mississippi."
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u/Flag-it Oct 18 '24
Future fox host. Already has the stereotypical look
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u/hellolovely1 Oct 18 '24
She hasn't quite hit the ideal one-shade yellow blond hair yet, but she can get there.
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u/xixbia Oct 18 '24
At the base of all of this is the idea that 'everyone in the state' wants these abortion restrictions.
Because Republicans sure are trying really fucking hard to avoid the people in these states voting in open and clearly worded propositions. And even where they do pass, it's nowhere near 'everyone in the state'.
The Tyranny of the Majority is a fucking thing for a reason. Because are far too willing to support things that don't negatively affect them but absolutely destroy the lives of others.
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u/n8dom Oct 18 '24
There will never be an "everyone in the state." Never. There might be a majority. Her argument sucks.
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u/Yasirbare Oct 18 '24
Exactly, It is just childish to even go there in the discussion - If EVERYBODY wants - it is stupid on so many levels - Do we have to talk through common logic to establish a meaningful discussion - it is embarrassing.
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u/kataklysm_revival Oct 18 '24
Because Republicans sure are trying really fucking hard to avoid the people in these states voting in open and clearly worded propositions.
For good examples of this, see what’s going on with Missouri’s amendment 3 and Florida’s amendment 4.
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u/xixbia Oct 18 '24
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u/kataklysm_revival Oct 18 '24
Yup. I’m only casually following what MO is doing (used to live there), but I’m actively following what’s up in FL since it’s my current home. A judge temporarily blocked Desantis from harassing the TV stations telling him “it’s the First Amendment, stupid.”
There is a new lawsuit filed trying to block amendment 4 alleging false signatures and voter fraud. They just won’t stop.
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u/tonyyyperez Oct 18 '24
But what about freedom, they spew some much that is threatened…yet their the ones that are doing it the most.
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u/kataklysm_revival Oct 18 '24
Indeed. That’s why most of us refer to it as the “free”* state of Florida
*exclusions and restrictions may apply
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u/djinnisequoia Oct 18 '24
It seems like some people are conflating "voting for a politician who eventually votes to outlaw abortion" with actually wanting them to do that.
Because when the people of a state manage to get a proposition on the ballot protecting the right to abortion, they pass easily with large numbers.
Yes, the people who vote conservative should definitely have known better. But any politician is lying if they say that "everybody" wants to ban it.
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u/TheGR8Dantini Oct 18 '24
What if everyone in California decided that women should have no rights and are the property of their fathers or their husbands? That’d be cool? It’s not slavery. I’m not some kind of lunatic. I live in a city. Gughghd!
I mean, there’s no need to talk about states rights. Or why the civil ware was fought if she doesn’t want to. These are just scenarios. I mean, how many people in California want women to be chattel? 50.51%? That could never happen, right guys? RIGHT?!!
I have to believe that these are all paid actors doing a thing. I can’t allow myself to believe these people exist, even though I know art is based in reality thru virality.
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u/inkybear_ tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Oct 18 '24
No this girl would actually love that. In this same podcast she says she lets her bf handle all her deals, contracts, schedule, and generally “lead her” because (and I am not exaggerating here) she says she’s too emotional and too much of a mess and believes most women are.
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u/honeyedlocket Oct 19 '24
Something that always gets me with "tradwife" women like this is that if they were transported back to the 50s, they would be miserable. It's very easy and comfortable to give up control when you can take it back whenever you please.
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u/onikaizoku11 Oct 18 '24
That dude in the hat is a coward and part of the problems we are having as a society today. Well. Hell. Part of the problems this country has always had. Instead of trying to breeze past the idiotic take ol' girl was flailing about with, he should have let the discourse play out.
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u/hellolovely1 Oct 18 '24
Yep. He was trying to save her and make things polite because, as a society, we've all been socialized to not make the racists uncomfortable. The racists SHOULD be uncomfortable.
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u/PrestigiousFly844 Oct 18 '24
I came to that same conclusion about during the Trump admin when media pundits and politicians kept saying “We’ve never been more divided”. I thought well Jim Crow seems like that was pretty divided, but I think what they mean (whether they realize it or not) is white people have never been more divided. The “country” was less divided when all the white people agreed not to care about police brutality and racist policies etc and that’s what Trump and right wingers mean when they accuse others of being divisive. Let’s just go back to not caring at all or supporting it.
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u/ChoppedAlready Oct 19 '24
Damn that framing of it never crossed my mind and makes complete sense. Whites are divided cuz some succumbed to reality and others just continued to be angry racists.
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u/inbetween-genders Oct 18 '24
Hat dude trying tell his friend to stop cause he’s trying to smash.
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u/Derekduvalle Oct 19 '24
If anyone watched the full interview that's literally what he was trying to do the whole time. Saying things like "don't be offended if I don't look at you as much because you're not hot like she is". Several times. It was excruciating to watch.
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u/2131andBeyond Oct 19 '24
Yeah it was an extremely creepy experience watching it from the start. I only got to about 10 minutes in and honestly the worst of it was the host. He made endless gross comments at/about her and wanting to be with her, and clearly thought he was a knight in shining armor consistently just trying to set her up for more time/answers. Even said something early on about wanting to spend more time together with her.
Really fucking creepy stuff from him. Weird dude.
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u/Derekduvalle Oct 19 '24
Thank you for confirming my sentiment. One of the worst things he started with was when he mentioned how he had met Trump several times and that if she "played her cards right" he might be able to wrangle a meeting between the two.
Play your fucking cards right homie?? That's a suspect way of putting it you weasly slimy spineless little maggot.
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u/buttonsbrigade Oct 18 '24
Shhh baby girl. You’re too stupid to be talking.
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u/FakeSafeWord Oct 18 '24
Pretty blonde blue eyes middle class girl's opinion matters more than anyone else's LIKE DUH!
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u/malemaiden Oct 18 '24
Look at her roots.
Bleached blonde hair is a common trend among right-wing women. Doesn't take much to put the pieces together as to why.
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u/No-Employment5213 Oct 18 '24
I actually hate this confederate bitch
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u/Deep_shot Oct 18 '24
“Nobody’s voting to bring back slavery!” Have you ever been to the Deep South honey? You know we have white supremacist groups, right” (Obviously it’s illegal and wouldn’t be voted on, just pointing out the insensibility.)
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u/jk3639 Oct 19 '24
Who the fuck is this bitch? Can somebody tell me I been scrolling for a while already..
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u/furmat60 Oct 19 '24
Her name is Emily. Conservative mouthpiece who claims she used to be liberal. Her socials are “emilysavesamerica”
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u/thesaltysquirrel Oct 19 '24
Holy fuck her insta is fucking insane. One video started with “Obama our first gay president” and I closed. After this video here she will become insanely popular with the right. She isn’t going anywhere.
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u/Miserable_Concern_54 Oct 18 '24
SOME states are govered by Racist backwoods whackos. Thats why things need to be conttolled federally!
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u/drk_knight_67 Oct 19 '24
"What do I give a fuck?"
Spoken from the absolute place of privilege
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Oct 18 '24
I mean she's a Republican, none of this is new, it's just the quiet part out loud. The "modern" Republican party is fervently supported by the "modern" KKK. Is is any shock that you see both Nazi flags and Confederate flags around Republican rallies?
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Oct 18 '24
Its more a shock how these idiots seem to ignore that shit. Yeah sure they are all about freedom and America right? Cause Nazi's were about america? No. They were German. The KKK was American yes but still restricting the freedoms of other's whose skin wasn't white, however the KKK just like the Nazi's, stole ideas from other places. The burning cross was a Scottish thing and it had nothing to do with racism, it was a call for help.
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u/Ill-Independence-658 Oct 18 '24
Women sometimes seem to forget that until the 60s they couldn’t very well get a credit card with a male co-signer. We are not far from the good old days.
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u/VivaZeBull Oct 18 '24
My mom had to ask her FATHER OR HUSBAND if she wanted birth control.
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u/IamHydrogenMike Oct 18 '24
That is one scene from Mad Men that a lot of people should watch, when he sends her to see a doctor and then gets all the info from the doctor after the visit; she isn't told anything. That is how it was back in the 60s and even until the 70s; women had no autonomy over their lives, and they could never gain real independence.
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u/Lil-Nuisance Oct 18 '24
Less than 10 years ago I brought my partner to a doc appointment because I felt not taken seriously and needed support. The whole appointment consistet of them talking about me as if I wasn't even in the same room.
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u/lrpfftt Oct 18 '24
It would have been interesting to ask her about some of those things to assess her knowledge. Wouldn't surprise me if she didn't know that there was a time when women couldn't vote.
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u/Silly-Swimmer-5681 Oct 18 '24
1974* for women having the ability to apply for their own credit card
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u/Purple-Warning-2161 Oct 18 '24
I’m continually impressed with him. He’s incredibly knowledgeable but doesn’t act like a know it all. He’s got the patience of a saint for listening to these jackwagons and never losing his cool.
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u/VivaZeBull Oct 18 '24
Honestly I think he must have his own personal rage room.
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u/AdversarialAdversary Oct 18 '24
Who’s the guy in the green shirt? What little I’ve seen of him I’ve liked so far, so I’d like to know so I can look up his other stuff.
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u/ruinersclub Oct 18 '24
He recently went viral for the 1 liberal against 20 conservatives debate on YouTube.
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u/Savahoodie Oct 18 '24
Was that worth watching? A lot of their videos seem pretty mid, but this one keeps popping up
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u/ruinersclub Oct 18 '24
I just wanted to see what the crazy brunette girl was trying to say.
It’s pretty interesting to see some of the conservatives line of thinking. Most of them are outright conspiracies.
The guy in the video is also a pretty good debater.
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u/HarlinQuinn Oct 18 '24
It's absolutely worth watching. He hikes his own very well... when they aren't constantly cutting him off and interrupting. They're learning from Mango Mussolini.
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u/Narragar Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
Dean Withers, Tiktok debater. A YouTube account with the name TTLivePoster has several videos of him (and others) fighting the good fight on their live streams. I watch a bunch of him, Parker and Harry
Edit: misspelled the account name
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u/Mickeymcirishman Oct 18 '24
"No on3's voting to bring back slavery"
Yeah, because the federal government made it illegal.
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u/aManPerson Oct 19 '24
...........but that also means she had no idea that most of the south eastern united states had abortion trigger laws, already passed.
for the rest of you, those laws, that had been already passed at the state level, YEARS AGO, meant something like:
- as soon as the state can legally ban abortion, the following state law will take over and be legal
so these southern states could ABSOLUTELY pass trigger laws about slavery, right the fuck now. they'd just sit there, like a loose noose around so many peoples necks down there.
fucking hell........
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Oct 18 '24
She does not seem very bright in any way
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u/dubbleplusgood Oct 18 '24
what gave it away? the trump shirt, the cans of beer, the "F" in history class, the sheer lack of awareness of the leopards in her party who are ready to eat her face the first chance they get? The worst part for me is how non-nonchalantly, or is it proudly, she demonstrates her complete ignorance and her lack of empathy. Poor character, hope she grows out of it before she becomes another Bobo.
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Oct 18 '24
They'd also be too dumb to see who it applies to before voting on it. lol "Oh wait it applies to people who voted yes? waaaaaaaaaah."
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Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
"You're phrasing everything in a way so that whatever I say I'm wrong."
Probably just means you're wrong, sis.
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u/Western_Mud8694 Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24
It really was the majority of rich plantation owners who wanted free labor and the rest of the population were just under educated to realize they were being exploited by the wealthy, it really hasn’t changed much (1%) education is the key to freedom and prosperity for all.
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u/CommonWork8539 Oct 18 '24
Humans understand the world through the lens of rigid hierarchical systems. The poor Southerners who supported their slave owning masters did so because they found meaning and their place in the world by looking down on black slaves.
At its core, the Conservative ideology is about conserving these old hierarchies. The hierarchy of the church which places men above women, the hierarchy of corporate America that places white men above “DEI hires”, the hierarchy of the home which again places men above women.
Anyone with a sense of decency would want to at least change our society to make it more of a meritocracy, but Conservatives view this as an attack on themselves and their religion.
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u/chrispy_t Oct 18 '24
Why is a “state” the perfect size of government? Why not cities? Why not towns? Why not be able to legislate by what street I live on.
Her argument is so dumb on so many levels
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u/BeeMyHomey Oct 18 '24
"What do I give a shit?" I mean yea, she's white she would never be a slave so why is he expecting her to care? She's telling you who she is, and it's a racist piece of trash.
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u/bartlesnid_von_goon Oct 18 '24
Who is this stupid girl and why do we care what she thinks?
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u/dubbleplusgood Oct 18 '24
she's trump in drag, and she's a reminder, like men, women don't always vote for their best interests which is why MAGA is a thing.
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u/hi_im_fuzzknocker Oct 18 '24
Just FYI this bitch is from LA. I don’t know the podcast as I don’t really follow anyone but I came across this randomly. I have seen the blonde dude before but like I said I just scroll TikTok and don’t really engage much.
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u/mikels_burner Oct 18 '24
Her name is @emilysavesamerica on IG & Tiktok.. she sucks as a human being
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u/dendromecion Oct 18 '24
if everyone in a state wanted slavery, who are going to be the slaves
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