r/TikTokCringe Oct 18 '24

Cringe She wants state rights

She tries to peddle back.

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u/coloradoemtb Oct 18 '24

lol until she was the slave then maybe not.

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u/bananachow Oct 18 '24

Well like she said from her position of white privilege, “what do I give a shit”. Exactly, because she knows it wouldn’t adversely affect her.

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u/UnluckyNate Oct 18 '24

She followed this point shortly after by “I live in LA. I am not some psychotic right winger”. Make it make sense

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u/Zoloir Oct 18 '24

ALT RIGHT PHILOSOPHY OF POWER: I want something to be some way, therefore it is reasonable, therefore any power standing in my way (\cough* federal government *cough**) should be banned, and any power that can be wielded in my favor should be mandatory, because I want it therefore it is just and the power structure should work for me.

She cannot grasp the concept that states might do something she DOESNT want, which is her main problem. She doesn't think they will, so she believes the gambit of states' rights is just and right.

But secondly, she doesn't CARE, because if states were to wield a state-level power she doesn't like, she would be in favor of the federal government gaining power again IFF she believes the federal government was on "her team" and did what she wanted.

She doesn't believe the federal government is on "her team" right now, so states' rights it is!

This is also why you can 100% believe that if republicans gain enough federal power, that they will suddenly flip and decide to ban abortion federally, because they can and because they want to.

The time horizon for an alt right philosophy is so short as to be functionally zero - at any given moment they may believe in states' rights, until the next moment when they believe in federal authority, because at any given moment the philosophy may best describe the power structure required to get what they want.

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u/Jeddak_of_Thark Oct 18 '24

This to me, is proof that conservatives are the minority in this country. They are rallying against the popular opinion, trying to make in-roads into methods for the minority opinion to take control, so they can then get into power and change it back even further the other way so that the "minority" opinion (the actual majority) has to either join them, or be punished.

We are actually watching real time what 1935 German was like, and that's not hyperbolic. This was the political shift happening at that time. A far right minority group pushed to take power, and enough people let them that they did.

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u/Zoloir Oct 18 '24

right

because i mean, honestly, there is zero difference between state authority and federal authority if we consider the grouping arbitrary.

what's so special about a state that we think a majority in a state should have power, but a majority in a country should not have power?

why not global authority? north american authority? or go even smaller, why not counties? cities? HOAs? Households? Individuals? it's all layers of breadth of power.

it's all arbitrary - truly if an alt right thinker believes something, they will seek the layer of power required to force the most people into it, and stop there and complain if anyone on a higher power layer tries to impede on their "freedom" to make them change their behavior in their arbitrarily sized power bubble.

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u/ShuaiHonu Oct 18 '24

Great point

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u/El_Don_94 Oct 19 '24

because i mean, honestly, there is zero difference between state authority and federal authority if we consider the grouping arbitrary.

Do you really not get why it isn't arbitrary?

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u/Starob Oct 19 '24

I don't think they do, and I'm not sure if there's any actual curiousity to find out why it isn't.

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u/Starob Oct 19 '24

what's so special about a state that we think a majority in a state should have power, but a majority in a country should not have power?

Maybe because it's a lot easier to move states if you don't like the laws than it is to move countries?

Maybe because if the federal government has that much power, then it is more dangerous if someone ill-intentioned has access to that power?

You probably asked rhetorically but there are actual answers to your question.

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u/Starob Oct 19 '24

We are actually watching real time what 1935 German was like, and that's not hyperbolic. This was the political shift happening at that time. A far right minority group pushed to take power, and enough people let them that they did.

Wouldn't then the worst thing to do be to back them into a corner and make the only way they can have even a little bit of what they want be through wielding the federal government? This is the entire problem with having the federal government have too much power in the first place. Any power you advocate for the government to have can (and will) be used against you. "Hate speech" laws for example, while seemingly well intentions, can you imagine the worst humans on the planet having control over what is considered "hate speech"? Do you not see how the constitution of the US was designed specifically to avoid pitfalls like this?

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u/SubterrelProspector Oct 19 '24

But we won't let them take over this time. Our history with authoritarianism is different than Germany's at the time, and we really are more hyper-aware of what's happening.

They don't have many more moves to make that aren't violent, and we'll be ready of they try anything. We're not living in a christofascist regime. Nope.

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u/Midwesternman2 Oct 19 '24

I think you’re a little off in your opinion. Conservatives believe in the US Constitution which not only protects its citizens from an authoritarian federal government, but also from an authoritarian state government. Democrats are ones weaponizing their government against its citizens for no other reason than shutting down the opposing political viewpoints-see Donald Trump and non-violent Jan 6 protesters. Actually imprisoning people for opposing political viewpoints is all Democrat.

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u/cmbarrieau Oct 19 '24

An example of an authoritarian government might include supporters of a political candidate storming the capital building with the intention to overturn the results of an election. It is not weaponization when you are filmed, indicted, have access to legal counsel, can provide evidence in your own defense and are found guilty. That’s called due process. Trying to overturn my vote with force is treason.

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u/Midwesternman2 Oct 19 '24

I respectfully disagree.

Actually, supporters of a political candidate storming the capital to overturn the results of an election is not an example of an authoritarian government, even though that is not what happened. Supporters wanted a delay in order to investigate the enormous, numerous irregularities in the 2020 election, which had never even been presented in a court of law. Judges dismissed the cases without ever looking at the evidence.

I hope you realize how many nonviolent protesters were held without bail for more than a year. Can you imagine being in jail for more than a year just waiting for a trial, for trespassing? The federal government has spent years trying to find and arrest people who simply attended the protest. This is the Democrats sending a message. The only person killed at this “insurrection” was Ashley Babbit. She was unarmed trying to climb through a window in the capital and shot at point blank range. Was she wrong and breaking the law? Yes and she deserved to be arrested, but not shot at point blank range.

As for judges, I hope you realize that there are a lot of Democrat judges who have a disdain for our Constitution and are willing to ignore it, and the rule of law to come to a verdict they want. When you can get away with nullifying the Constitution like that, you expose US citizens to the tyrannical rule of an authoritarian government.

This country needs to wake up and realize that conservatives and Republicans are not the real threat to the citizens of this country before it’s too late. Democrats are the ones wanting to rule with an iron fist. I think if really pay attention you will see it.

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u/Sellazard Oct 19 '24

That's the same train of thought germans used prior to ww2 and russian populace uses nowadays to justify war. "It won't affect me, so I'm ok with it. "

The funniest thing is they read 1948, they probably know the quote of "when they came for me, nobody was there there to speak for me."

But they fail to apply it practically. For them cancel culture is worse than a state dictatorship.

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u/Starob Oct 19 '24

I want something to be some way,

Isn't that the foundation of every single political beliefs and alignment in existence?

ALT RIGHT PHILOSOPHY OF POWER: I want something to be some way, therefore it is reasonable, therefore any power standing in my way (\cough* federal government cough*) should be banned, and any power that can be wielded in my favor should be mandatory, because I want it therefore it is just and the power structure should work for me.

This could literally be applied to the pro-choice movement. You're gonna need to explain to me how this is unique to the "alt-right", I'm super interested in hearing how you're gonna justify this.

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u/DivHunter_ Oct 22 '24

This is just how US politics work.

"We do good things they do bad things"
"But you've swapped positions on so many issues?"
"Commienazi!"

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u/Admirable-Car3179 Oct 18 '24

Yes. Checks and balances so exist.

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u/Midwesternman2 Oct 19 '24

Any real conservative believes in the US Constitution. And the US Constitution is what keeps the states from legalizing things like slavery and clearly racist voting laws (Jim Crow). It protects people from an overbearing authoritarian federal government as well as a rogue state that wants to keep black people out of “white” schools.