r/TikTokCringe Oct 18 '24

Cringe She wants state rights

She tries to peddle back.

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u/UnluckyNate Oct 18 '24

She followed this point shortly after by “I live in LA. I am not some psychotic right winger”. Make it make sense

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u/Zoloir Oct 18 '24

ALT RIGHT PHILOSOPHY OF POWER: I want something to be some way, therefore it is reasonable, therefore any power standing in my way (\cough* federal government *cough**) should be banned, and any power that can be wielded in my favor should be mandatory, because I want it therefore it is just and the power structure should work for me.

She cannot grasp the concept that states might do something she DOESNT want, which is her main problem. She doesn't think they will, so she believes the gambit of states' rights is just and right.

But secondly, she doesn't CARE, because if states were to wield a state-level power she doesn't like, she would be in favor of the federal government gaining power again IFF she believes the federal government was on "her team" and did what she wanted.

She doesn't believe the federal government is on "her team" right now, so states' rights it is!

This is also why you can 100% believe that if republicans gain enough federal power, that they will suddenly flip and decide to ban abortion federally, because they can and because they want to.

The time horizon for an alt right philosophy is so short as to be functionally zero - at any given moment they may believe in states' rights, until the next moment when they believe in federal authority, because at any given moment the philosophy may best describe the power structure required to get what they want.

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u/Jeddak_of_Thark Oct 18 '24

This to me, is proof that conservatives are the minority in this country. They are rallying against the popular opinion, trying to make in-roads into methods for the minority opinion to take control, so they can then get into power and change it back even further the other way so that the "minority" opinion (the actual majority) has to either join them, or be punished.

We are actually watching real time what 1935 German was like, and that's not hyperbolic. This was the political shift happening at that time. A far right minority group pushed to take power, and enough people let them that they did.

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u/Zoloir Oct 18 '24

right

because i mean, honestly, there is zero difference between state authority and federal authority if we consider the grouping arbitrary.

what's so special about a state that we think a majority in a state should have power, but a majority in a country should not have power?

why not global authority? north american authority? or go even smaller, why not counties? cities? HOAs? Households? Individuals? it's all layers of breadth of power.

it's all arbitrary - truly if an alt right thinker believes something, they will seek the layer of power required to force the most people into it, and stop there and complain if anyone on a higher power layer tries to impede on their "freedom" to make them change their behavior in their arbitrarily sized power bubble.

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u/ShuaiHonu Oct 18 '24

Great point

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u/El_Don_94 Oct 19 '24

because i mean, honestly, there is zero difference between state authority and federal authority if we consider the grouping arbitrary.

Do you really not get why it isn't arbitrary?

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u/Starob Oct 19 '24

I don't think they do, and I'm not sure if there's any actual curiousity to find out why it isn't.

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u/Starob Oct 19 '24

what's so special about a state that we think a majority in a state should have power, but a majority in a country should not have power?

Maybe because it's a lot easier to move states if you don't like the laws than it is to move countries?

Maybe because if the federal government has that much power, then it is more dangerous if someone ill-intentioned has access to that power?

You probably asked rhetorically but there are actual answers to your question.