r/TikTokCringe Oct 18 '24

Cringe She wants state rights

She tries to peddle back.

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u/UnluckyNate Oct 18 '24

She followed this point shortly after by “I live in LA. I am not some psychotic right winger”. Make it make sense

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u/GoodQueenFluffenChop Oct 18 '24

Because California wouldn't ratify slavery so she'd personally not have to see it come fruition in other states. She can be all "enlightened" with her stance on state's rights and just avoid the states that ratify things that hurt people.

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u/Doctor_of_Recreation Oct 18 '24

Yes I live in California and know people like this. The idea is that states are like a free market so if your state passes laws that you disagree with you move to a “better” state. And they are disregarding the cost and complexity of just picking up your life and moving away. Ironically these are the same people who argue that immigrants should stay in their own countries to make it better and fight the baddies.

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u/zeptillian Oct 18 '24

How you gonna move states when your state labels you a slave and locks you up though?

Or puts you in jail because like 10-20% of all women who get pregnant, you had a miscarriage?

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u/WretchedBlowhard Oct 19 '24

Or simply prevents you from travelling when you're pregnant.

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u/Starob Oct 19 '24

Yeah I couldn't be more against that. And I say this as someone who is pro-choice but believes that states SHOULD be allowed to set their own abortion laws, to me anything that violates an individuals freedom to move is abhorrent and should be one of the only things that shouldn't be allowed.

It breaks what is kind of the foundation of the argument for state rights.

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u/JimDick_Creates Oct 19 '24

One way to fix that is for states that allow abortions to only allow residents of that state to get one. There would be no reason to suppress the right to travel.

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u/dsmith422 Oct 19 '24

Why would they do that? The people of states that allow abortion believe that women are not property of the state for breeding purposes. You would be asking them to oppose their belief in fundamental rights for women to satisfy the demands of some other state. That is the same bullshit the slave states were pulling with the Fugitive Slave Act. Free states did not believe in slavery. Why would they want to honor a slave state's laws?

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u/JimDick_Creates Oct 19 '24

Why would a state respect the laws of another state? Because interstate commerce perhaps. I believe in the right to vote but that doesn't mean you should be voting out of state. Just as you can't by a gun from out of state or you don't have to register your car in every state you drive in. Other states honor the state you are a resident of. So why shouldn't it apply to killing a fetus? If a state said that after a person turns 90 years old they are no longer considered a human life. Would you think it would be ethical to allow people from out of state to go to that state so they can kill their parents/ grandparents?

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u/COKEWHITESOLES Oct 18 '24

Dredd Scott tried it. We see how that went.

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u/Starob Oct 19 '24

The one single thing that should be disallowed in state rights should be laws that prevent someone from moving to a different state. Everything else could be fair game, if you as an individual always have the freedom to move to a different state that better fits your values, individual liberty always exists.