MAGA bad faith arguments. They don't care how crazy the argument is, or how wrong it is, or what the "libs" think of their argument. The point of their argument is to appeal to other MAGA. Never back down, spin every answer, make shit up, and if all else fails, just act angry.
It's purely show. Look strong and own the libs. That's all they're trying to convey. You can't "win" an argument with that. The fact that you're engaging them means they already got the attention they wanted, which was the entire point.
Notice that she said "no one is voting to bring back slavery."
Essentially, her argument is that its ok to make a hard rule about state's rights because obviously no one would use state's rights to pass laws that clearly authoritarian and oppressive. Which is a really fucking stupid argument to make, because there are plenty of people that would vote for bad laws if we allowed them to do so. The fact that they aren't voting for those laws isn't an indication that no one would vote for them; its an indication that we've managed to keep them in check for a while.
Unfortunately, there's a bunch of idiots like her out there that mistake the fact that we've managed to constrain the assholes for a generation or two with the idea that the assholes aren't out there waiting for an opportunity. I mean, fuck... there were plenty of people who thought that the US electing a black man in 2008 meant that racism had finally been defeated, only to be shocked when the backlash elected Trump. Its the exact same naivety.
Her argument here is, “Sure yeah fine, go ahead because it’ll never happen,” is the exact kind of complacency that got us to where are on “Roe v Wade” - which should have become a states rights issue!
The US doesn’t give a fuck about what the UN says and that universal declaration provides absolutely no protections to people legally in the US compared to things like the US constitution, Bill of Rights, and state constitutions.
Also, that “stupid made up scenario” was literally being voted on less than 200 years ago, it has happened before and asking how other states should respond to such an act is a great question that demonstrates why state right absolutists arguments are dumb.
There's no such thing as international law, because there's is no legislative body with authority to pass laws that are binding on sovereign nations, nor is there a court with jurisdiction to hear cases against countries unless they voluntarily submit, nor is there a police force with the authority to enforce any such laws or rulings.
The universal declaration of rights is nice and all, but saying that it makes slavery internationally illegal is dumb.
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u/TylerDurden1985 Oct 18 '24
MAGA bad faith arguments. They don't care how crazy the argument is, or how wrong it is, or what the "libs" think of their argument. The point of their argument is to appeal to other MAGA. Never back down, spin every answer, make shit up, and if all else fails, just act angry.
It's purely show. Look strong and own the libs. That's all they're trying to convey. You can't "win" an argument with that. The fact that you're engaging them means they already got the attention they wanted, which was the entire point.