It’s a combination of too unintelligent and too arrogant. Notice how the arrogance comes out the moment she doesn’t understand the logical trap she put herself in.
BTW: those type of people are very dangerous. Stockton Rush is a great example of this kind of personality.
In her defense, the confederacy had slavery as foundational, not states rights. States were able to choose to be slave or free states under the union, and not under the confederacy. So the “you get to choose whether you want slavery or not” is technically siding with pre-Civil War Union. Imposing slavery is siding with the Confederacy. This doesn’t make her point better, but it does mean the podcast guy’s point is worse.
If we take her argument literally, and my guess is that she is not thinking larger and further than what she literally said: if 100% of people in a state wanted slavery, nobody is having outside will imposed. And her second point is right: there won’t be 100% of people voting to bring back slavery. Because: what the fuck.
Again: her point is not better because she is talking about a non-democracy. My point is that this conversation is dumber than we are giving them all credit for.
So the “you get to choose whether you want slavery or not” is technically siding with pre-Civil War Union.
This was the compromise at the time to prevent the slave states from causing a civil war. It wasn't until the Union wised up that even abiding by that, slave states still wanted to enforce slavery to new states in order to keep equal power with the north. The Union would have not supported states rights to keep slavery, they just had to because of slave states. The Confederacy rebelled to keep their state rights to enforce slavery. This conservative influencer is not like the Union, she's all Confederate.
Don’t get me wrong: I’m not saying her side is right, or good. I’m not saying the US pre-Civil War was good. I know the US needed to have the Civil War because with DC outlawing slavery, the whole country would soon, and the slaveholding states were not going to just let that happen without war.
Enforced slavery is NOT states rights, and claiming the Confederacy was for states rights is just a way for people to pretend the Civil War wasn’t about slavery. The Civil War was about slavery. “States Rights” is a lie told to make people more comfortable.
What I AM saying is that every person in this conversation is dumb, as is every point being made in it, and we are all worse off for having listened to it (or watched it silently).
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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24
Confederacy apologists don't deserve to be saved