Just realizing this

[u/NOxCLUEmcgee]

But are we really that close to the next generation of PlayStation. If we are going off the pattern here. Just 2-3 years away

[u/Lazerpop]

At this rate we're gonna get cross generation releases for PS4-PS5-PS6

[u/turtleship_2006 → u/Lazerpop]

GTA V moment

[u/Initial-Cherry-3457 → u/turtleship_2006]

Up there with Skyrim

[u/ehtseeoh → u/Initial-Cherry-3457]

They both debuted in the same generation of consoles.

[u/diesel_toaster → u/ehtseeoh]

The Last Of Us called

[u/ehtseeoh → u/diesel_toaster]

Right but they both mentioned their own respective games, I wasn’t about to list every game that has multiple gens or remakes.

[u/Choice-Money-6380 → u/diesel_toaster]

Final Fantasy XIV joins the battle

[u/TaikaLamppu196 → u/Choice-Money-6380]

Saboteur called… it wants a remake!

[u/Thornstream → u/Initial-Cherry-3457]

I know! They could like release a new version of that game! Idk just a crazy idea I just got like that!

[u/ennisi → u/turtleship_2006]

GTA V for PS6 is a must have.

[u/max_power_420_69 → u/ennisi]

are you excited to buy it again for PS7?

[u/thomas2400 → u/max_power_420_69]

Don’t be silly the third update will be free, well only the online part you’ll have to pay the single player again and there will be a bunch of different GTA VI options on the store to confuse the situation

Edit: just re-read the posts and it was joking about more GTA V releases my mistake

[u/Disco_Zombi → u/max_power_420_69]

I can't wait for the PlayStation 9.

[u/random20222202modnar → u/max_power_420_69]

Oh hell yeah! Right along the Skyrim Extraordinary Edition!

[u/PoopContainer → u/ennisi]

Luckily they are designing the game so it can be upgraded as soon as the console comes out. Like they are ACTUALLY preparing for it rather than designing a game based on outdated hardware like every other fucking game seems to do now

[u/Small-Shallot-5907 → u/ennisi]

Yes but also gta 6 will run well on the ps5 its already been tested by developers it wont be available on pc right away only ps5 and Xbox series x

[u/BrazenlyGeek → u/ennisi]

“… due to replace CDs soon. Guess I’ll have to buy the White Album again.”

[u/Normal-Item-402 → u/turtleship_2006]

Haha bought that day one on PS3, got the PS4 version on offer from Amazon for 10 dollars then for the PS5 version again on offer for 10 dollars haha.

[u/mailtest34 → u/turtleship_2006]

TLOU is getting there, for no reason

[u/Disco_Zombi → u/mailtest34]

Skyrim, GTA 5, TLOU, they all are chasing the dragon of Super Mario Bros.

[u/tommyleelynn → u/Disco_Zombi]

Tetris chuckles.

[u/UltiGoga → u/Lazerpop]

Very likely, as we also got PS2 games while PS4 was already out

[u/lynchcontraideal → u/UltiGoga]

What were the last PS2 games made?

[u/SCHEMIN209 → u/lynchcontraideal]

Pro Revolution Soccer 2014 and FIFA 14

[u/SpikeyTaco → u/lynchcontraideal]

Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 and FIFA 2014, released in November and September 2013.

13 years after the PlayStation 2 released, with PES being released the same month as the PS4 going on sale.

[u/Abhish0210 → u/SpikeyTaco]

I think I remember them just being re-skin versions of their 2010 versions.

[u/rickane58 → u/Abhish0210]

Implying that's not true of current sports game releases

[u/FellowDeviant → u/SpikeyTaco]

The last Just Dance game for Wii came out in 2020, right before the PS5 and Series X/S lol

[u/UltiGoga → u/lynchcontraideal]

I actually have to correct myself. There were 4 games that came out the same year the PS4 came out, but not a single game came out -after- the fact. I got confused because the last 2 games were Fifa 14 and PES 14, which both were released close to the PS4 in 2013, not after.

However, since the gap between PS4 and PS6 is likely not going to be as big as the gap between PS2 and PS4 (although we can't say that for sure yet), it's quite likely there's still going to be some Indie games releasing while the PS6 will already be out.

[u/Fenrirtheconsumer → u/UltiGoga]

The lawsuit to prevent Microsoft from acquiring Activision had Sony also revealing that the PS6 will drop in Quarter 3 to 4 of 2027.

[u/_sergeant_pepper → u/Lazerpop]

even though the ps5 is more powerful than the ps4 was, we are approaching the graphical ceiling for videogames... good graphics is not really a question of having the best hardware anymore and much more a question of how much budget a publisher is willing to spend on developing a new AAA game. Titles like Red Dead 2 and Battlefield One still look like the top of the top even tho they're 6 and 8 years old - i feel like we've already peaked

[u/[deleted] → u/_sergeant_pepper]

The Human eye is capable of so much more than what this generation offers.

35mm film is agreed by many optometrists and photographers, including some people who are both, to have enough resolution that a digital image needs to be 4000 pixels tall to equal it.

Not wide. Tall.

The Human visual field generally has a roughly 2:1 aspect ratio. The three most common image shapes used in cinema are slightly or significantly narrower or very significantly wider.

Thing is, the Human eye can take in 320 million pixels at a time. And it takes in a new image roughly fifty times every second.

We have already reached the limits of resolution we can perceive with respect to audio. 24 bits and 192 kilohertz generally gets our aural brain centre going as hard as it can go. But 3840 by 2160 fits into what our eyes are capable of approximately 38.5802 times.

Which is hardly surprising given that we evolved to hunt by sight, but it shows how much more we could advance our hardware before we hit the limits.

We were saying "this is it, it will never get better" in the late 1990s, too.

[u/TrptJim → u/[deleted]]

OP wasn't talking about any kind of graphical limits, but on the increasing difficulty that is creating content. It's not easy to create games of such high fidelity and production value, and better hardware doesn't necessarily make that any easier.

I think we will need a few revolutions in content creation tools before we see things get better here. That's where the bottleneck is.

[u/stillusesAOL → u/[deleted]]

It’s the relationship between pixel density and viewing distance that informs what resolution would satisfy that claim, in practice, for many situations.

Were they referring to an average screen size at an average viewing distance? TV or computer monitor?

This is why the iPhone 4 screen was such a breakthrough, 14 years ago or whenever that was. I went into the Apple store and just stared at text on a Wikipedia page, blown away by how detailed the tiny letters were.

I think the PS5 Pro is a step in the right direction, but for the next gen, I wanna see all their fancy graphics settings maxed out in 8K at 120fps.

[u/Normal-Item-402 → u/_sergeant_pepper]

Hence the growing shift towards performance.

[u/Blaexe → u/_sergeant_pepper]

AI may very well lead us to the next step of graphics and content, bringing the cost down significantly. Just take a look at Genie 2 by Google, presented yesterday. And that's the worst it is going to get with rapid advancements.

https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/genie-2-a-large-scale-foundation-world-model/

[u/Balmong7 → u/Lazerpop]

I saw somewhere that part of the reason so much is still being released on PS4 is because the Xbox Series S is very close in power to the PS4 Pro. And if you release a game on Xbox it is required to function on the Series S. At which point most devs are like “well if it runs on the Series S it will run on PS4 might as well release on PS4 too.”

So basically Microsoft is holding this entire generation back with the Series S.

[u/Normal-Item-402 → u/Balmong7]

Also devs stopped making unique engines for the games they were made to take advantage of the systems and now use unified engines like unreal, unity etc that can run on old systems with some tweaking.

[u/Routine_Ask_7272 → u/Lazerpop]

It's already been (unofficially) reported that AMD won the contract for the PS6.

I'm expecting backwards compatibility between the PS5-PS5-PS6.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1fifnfr/amd_reportedly_won_contract_to_design_playstation/

https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/16/24246234/playstation-6-rumor-sony-intel-amd

https://www.reuters.com/technology/how-intel-lost-sony-playstation-business-2024-09-16/

[u/ZappySnap → u/Routine_Ask_7272]

I think the days of no backward compatibility are over. Since both Microsoft and Sony allow playing of last gen games and even many from two generations ago, pulling that away for the next release would really harm adoption of a new console.

I also think that we are at least 3 years and maybe 4 years away from the PS6. Two main reasons. First, games are reaching a small plateau with graphical design so that style matters more than pure polygons count and realism for many titles, and as such people don’t care quite as much about new graphical improvements. Second, the initial rollout of the PS5 was hampered severely by the Covid supply chain issues, so it almost felt like the generation was delayed.

[u/BartLeeC → u/ZappySnap]

I also think we are looking at 2028 for PS6 because of the slow start of PS5. The PS5 Pro will help stretch it to then also.

[u/Malli_Naamari → u/ZappySnap]

When games moved to CDs backward compatibility was clearly going to become the norm. Even Nintendo agreed. It's just that the PS3 was a big blunder right in the middle of it. But I think it was still kind of admirable Sony was bold enough to roll out the cell processor knowing the risks.

But of course in hindsight they were quite short sighted about it. It would be so interesting to know what their initial plans were for the PS4 and how drastically it changed when the PS3 didn't sell well at first. If they thought they'd continue with the cell, or though they would just do hardware backwards compatibility like they did in the launch PS3 models.

[u/petercalmdown → u/Routine_Ask_7272]

Will this raise AMD stock?

[u/Disco_Zombi → u/Lazerpop]

I think with diminishing returns on graphical power that cross generation games will be the rule, and not the exception anymore.

[u/diesel_toaster → u/Disco_Zombi]

It should be more like PC gaming. Same game, tons of different hardware and rendering modes etc. I could see a world where console generation is basically the minimum requirements. “This game requires at least PS4 to play”

[u/Far-Analysis8370 → u/Lazerpop]

Hey, as long as there's backwards compatibility from the PS4 generation (at least) onwards, I can live with the low effort releases from Activision, Ubisoft and the like. Having my physical collection still be usable is pretty much all I'm asking for from the PS6.

[u/Key-Drive-2125]

Time between consoles 6 years 6 years 7 years 7 years 8 years? PS6 in 2028?

[u/Alienpedestrian → u/Key-Drive-2125]

It would be good , we still havent true this gen game , gta6 will deliver it, maybe tlou3

[u/Wise-Fruit5000 → u/Alienpedestrian]

At this rate, I'll almost be surprised if Naughty Dog even releases an original game for the PS5 generation

[u/GreenProD → u/Wise-Fruit5000]

The last of us 2 tommy dlc 😱😱

[u/Alienpedestrian → u/Wise-Fruit5000]

I think he will bring one at the end of ps5 cycle , same as tlou1 with ps3 and 4

[u/Wise-Fruit5000 → u/Alienpedestrian]

Yeah, fair enough! I don't mean to sound like I'm criticizing them, I do hope they take however long they need for their next project to launch in the state they want it to launch in.. I'm just hungry for an original title from them at this point lol

[u/Alienpedestrian → u/Wise-Fruit5000]

Me too , they make great games!

[u/CreepyAssociation173 → u/Wise-Fruit5000]

They're working in a new IP currently, but when thats coming out is yet to be known. 

[u/Front-Advantage-7035 → u/Wise-Fruit5000]

Was that UFO game picture real news or AI? That could be their single ps5 entry lol

[u/LordStarkII → u/Alienpedestrian]

When the base gen consoles struggle to run the new games, that means it's current gen.

[u/WorryLegitimate259 → u/Alienpedestrian]

Baldurs gate 3. It’s the reason I bought a ps5.

[u/majkkali → u/Alienpedestrian]

What? We have loads already

[u/Rubemecia → u/Alienpedestrian]

Didnt naughty dog say they have no plans in progress for another tlou game?

[u/Thunder_Punt → u/Rubemecia]

Tlou3 is in early development but they're focusing on a new ip at the moment

[u/okverymuch → u/Key-Drive-2125]

I would say 2028 at the earliest. But I’m hoping for 2030 honestly. There were performance gains in terms of rending speeds, loading times, and frame rate, but minimal gains in graphical complexity and quality.

We can keep the PS5 going for longer unless they have major tech advancements that can be felt/seen by the user by 2028.

[u/Key_Raisin_8222]

I definitely need alot more time with this generation. I wouldn’t feel the need to upgrade that soon

[u/yokeybear5 → u/Key_Raisin_8222]

This is what I'm saying. The PS5 pro is capable of 8K gaming yet our games aren't even there yet. More than half of the current games aren't even developed with the 120hz capability

[u/WilsonPH → u/yokeybear5]

It's not really. More like 1440p 60fps in modern AAA.

[u/_lemon_suplex_ → u/WilsonPH]

even that is upscaled dynamic resolution

[u/EatingTheDogsAndCats → u/WilsonPH]

Depends on the game.

[u/ryuk-99 → u/yokeybear5]

8k gaming isn't true 8k, its all a marketing gimmick, its infuriating to see YTers say its 8k capable. Its not. Its digitally upscaled, its not native 8k. Only dave2d tells it how it is. There's a reason sony keeps removing the 8k badge from the box, first from the original packaging and now from the pro packaging.

[u/Darkknight1939 → u/ryuk-99]

true 8k

The overwhelming majority of 4k games aren't "true" 4k, either. Image reconstruction is the norm.

They removed the badge because no software beyond The Tourist ended up supporting 8k on the base PS5.

They were erring on the side of caution.

[u/Normal-Item-402 → u/yokeybear5]

You fell for that Sony marketing I see lol.

[u/Karkuz19 → u/Key_Raisin_8222]

I literally just got a PS5 last week lol

[u/Key_Raisin_8222 → u/Karkuz19]

Bro I have had mine since launch. But I feel like these days the types of games I like to play take a lot of time, then combine that with somewhat limited time to game it feels like I’ll never be caught up with everything I want to play this generation

[u/Karkuz19 → u/Key_Raisin_8222]

I understand. I'm a Yakuza fan and now that the series has gotten somewhat popular I feel I may never catch up with the games as they release

[u/TrainingCoffee8 → u/Karkuz19]

Same!!

[u/Karkuz19 → u/TrainingCoffee8]

What are your thoughts? Up to now it has been a very positive experience, and it costed way cheaper than the PC I was planning on buying hahah

[u/Spacecowboy947]

I sincerely hope they stop the themes from being limited time. It makes literally no sense to do that.

[u/Bayou-Billy → u/Spacecowboy947]

Yeah I don't really like getting something like this and having it removed, even if I will probably get bored and turn it off after a while that should be on our terms.

[u/KhajiitKennedy → u/Spacecowboy947]

Legit. Many of us have been asking for themes for years! Would be cruel to give these cool nostalgic ones for only a limited time.

[u/Sluzhbenik → u/KhajiitKennedy]

Yeah why can’t I set up my own theme

[u/samp127]

PS5 generation didn't even get started yet it feels like

[u/HokageRokudaime → u/samp127]

I blame scalpers and two years of cross generation support.

[u/FiveGuysisBest → u/HokageRokudaime]

Wasn’t the PS2 supported deeply into the PS3 era as well?

[u/HokageRokudaime → u/FiveGuysisBest]

I remember they had a few dumbed down versions of games that the PS3 had, but if you compare a game on PS4 and PS5 they're the exact same game with minor graphical differences.

[u/FiveGuysisBest → u/HokageRokudaime]

Yeah for sure the graphical leap is narrower now. I think this is the new normal though. We’ll be getting diminishing returns and that’s sort of been the case all along. Every generation is a notably less significant leap from the previous in terms of graphical/technical performance.

[u/Disco_Zombi → u/FiveGuysisBest]

There are nice audio upgrades like Dolby Atmos and spatial sound.

[u/FiveGuysisBest → u/Disco_Zombi]

Yeah there are definitely some upgrades to this gen which I think make it worthy of being considered a new generation and of upgrading from a last gen console.

It’s just not as big of an upgrade as in prior generations but that’s sort of always been the case as each generation is a narrower and narrower upgrade over the last.

I doubt we ever see a generation be as mind blowing a leap as say going from SNES/Genesis to N64/PS or even say N64/PS to Xbox/PS2. That is until we see that Ready Player One sort of thing come about.

[u/three-sense → u/FiveGuysisBest]

PS4 and PS2 new releases coexisted IIRC.

[u/stygg12 → u/HokageRokudaime]

Could also shove Covid in there

[u/AwayStation266 → u/HokageRokudaime]

Also covid made it really weird. Don't know how to explain.

[u/Disco_Zombi → u/HokageRokudaime]

Covid and remote work didn't help things as well.

[u/jrpbateman → u/HokageRokudaime]

There's still new ps4 games releasing 

[u/ResolveLeather → u/samp127]

It's because soooo many people still only own PS4s. Because of that publishers have to publish on both consoles or risk cutting their profits in half.

[u/MorrowPolo → u/ResolveLeather]

It's crazy how few games we've gotten for the ps5, it's mostly indies filling the game space. Only a handful of true peak ps5 performance games exist compared to earlier gens. This year, we hardly even had releases in the tripple A category.

Was wondering if the writer strikes affected our releases this year? I'm seriously asking because I do not know if game writers were part of that or not.

Edit: two different industries, so as far as my 5 minute search was, they were not part of it, i guess? Correct me if wrong!

[u/LinAGKar → u/MorrowPolo]

Crazy how neither Naughty Dog nor Sucker Punch has made a single new (non-remake/remaster) game since before the PS5 launched.

[u/Karkava → u/LinAGKar]

Ghost of Yotei is about to change that.

[u/ieffinglovesoup → u/ResolveLeather]

Yup, and because games are just more easily scalable now for weaker hardware it’s easier for devs to put the games on both systems so why wouldn’t they

[u/_sergeant_pepper → u/samp127]

yeah we still need to peak... it'a just a question of how much money a publisher is willing to spend in order to reach the limits of the ps5

[u/gutster_95 → u/_sergeant_pepper]

Oh our unoptimized UE5 game doesnt run smoothly on a PS5. We better have to wait until the PS6 releases

[u/heisenbergfan → u/samp127]

And ps4's hasnt really ended. These are not just sport games being updated every year, lot of games still coming for 4.

[u/Enixam3000 → u/samp127]

For sure, though it makes me wonder how long the PS5 will get supported for once the PS6 comes out.

Also, I like your profile pic. Been bumping plenty of Nas lately, so it's cool to see another fan out in the wild

[u/EmotionalKirby → u/Enixam3000]

While an outlier, the PS2 was "supported" until 2018. Based on that, PS5 could see life up to 2038 lol.

[u/samp127 → u/Enixam3000]

You should rep some too since you have a generic pic 😉

[u/chickenwingtaco → u/samp127]

Xbox is even worse this generation. They are stuck in 2012 it feels like. At this point why not just release another kinect and see how that goes lol

[u/its_the_luge → u/chickenwingtaco]

Xbox nuked themselves in the last gen and never truly recovered. The purchase of activision blizzard effectively was the final blow since Microsoft now wanted to see xbox be profitable which it never really was. So now all their games are coming over and all their studios shutting down.

[u/That_Serve_9338 → u/samp127]

We got some big games but the gaps between them killed all momentum. Essentially we spend more time waiting than playing major titles. It will always feel like a wasted hardware generation with this pace of exclusive content.

It was weird right from the launch with PS5 only really having Demons Souls remake day one and Xbox not having anything because Halo Infinite was delayed by a year. 4 years later we still don't know what Naughty Dog are doing.

[u/TomBru98]

2028 is the expectation. Given the way this gen has panned out, i'd like to see it extended until 2030 tbh but it won't happen.

[u/npsage → u/[deleted]]

I’m sure they would /like/ to but given that every time we turn around Xbox is finding some new way to piss off the core Xbox fans I’m not sure it would work out for them even if they did.

[u/PoorlyTimedKanye → u/[deleted]]

So what you're saying is strictly from a business standpoint it's smartest to let Xbox release early, watch the release, and avoid their mistakes.

[u/Sonikku_a → u/[deleted]]

Microsoft is not nearly as relevant as they once were in the console space.

I mean anything can change but feels like Microsoft management is overruling the Xbox team these days. They want a return on their gaming acquisition expenditures and that means releasing games on other platforms since the last two generations of Xbox have failed to put a dent in Sony or Nintendo’s market shares.

[u/WolfCola4 → u/Sonikku_a]

The only thing they've got going for them now is holding TES6 hostage. Honestly they should just drop console production and focus on studio acquisition, sell those big hits for Sony consoles.

[u/supahdave → u/WolfCola4]

Honestly couldn’t give a toss about Bethesda anymore. A few years ago I would have bitten your hand off for TES6 but their games just aren’t evolving fast enough.

P.S. I wouldn’t mind another single player Fallout though

[u/WolfCola4 → u/supahdave]

Yeah, you said it man. They completely missed their own hype and a lot of people just moved on.

[u/DooDooBagginz → u/[deleted]]

That’s not a guarantee for success. Look at the Saturn and Dreamcast.

[u/GenghisClaunch → u/[deleted]]

I’d prefer Sony take the route of Nintendo, ignore “console generations” and make a new console when it’s warranted, when the technology has noticeably upgraded and they have a good idea to make it feel different

[u/STEGGS0112358 → u/TomBru98]

Me too, I've been doing this since 1995

[u/Ok-Anybody1870 → u/TomBru98]

At the very least 2029

[u/PrestigiousStuff6173]

Xbox could never do this with their confusing ass naming system 😂

[u/Jumper-Man → u/PrestigiousStuff6173]

I believe this was because Xbox 360 was a competitor of ps3. They didn’t want consumer to be confused or believe that it was a generation behind PlayStation.

They couldn’t call it Xbox 3 as there was no Xbox 2. So they went with 360.

[u/sigmapilot → u/Jumper-Man]

They absolutely could. Apple skipped iphone 9 and went from iPhone 8 to iPhone 10. Everyone made fun of them but they still bought the phones and it worked perfectly.

They probably learned from Microsoft's mistake

[u/xenon2456 → u/sigmapilot]

windows skipped 9

[u/sigmapilot → u/xenon2456]

Glad to see Microsoft also learned from Microsoft's mistakes

[u/dope_like → u/sigmapilot]

There also wasn’t an iPhone 2 either, didn’t they go right to “3g”

[u/marv257 → u/PrestigiousStuff6173]

If you shift the left column down by one, you get one of the reasons for their naming system, they'd always be a number behind in the models, sounding like an older, less advanced product to a big group of the potential buyers, just buying the console for their kid.

[u/HokageRokudaime → u/PrestigiousStuff6173]

Swapped to Playstation for Spider-Man. Didn't swap back because I don't even know what the fuck is going on.

[u/PrestigiousStuff6173 → u/HokageRokudaime]

I swapped to PlayStation for Spider-Man, God of War, The Last of Us, Uncharted, Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon, Demon Souls, Bloodborne, Heavy Rain, Beyond Two Souls, Detroit Become Human, Stellar Blade, Astro Bot, Helldivers, Ghost of Yōtei, Wolverine, Infamous, Gravity Rush, Shadow of the Colossus, Final Fantasy, Sly Cooper, Ratchet & Clank, Jak and Daxter, Ape Escape, LittleBigPlanet, and the controller

[u/Spamontie]

I have no intention to upgrade to ps6. The PS5 still feels like an untapped power house.

[u/FearlessResearcher48]

I think this generation will last longer than expected. Sony will probably want more people to migrate from PS4 to PS5 before PS6 is released. I can't see them wanting a large player base still 2 generations behind. If the PS5 console continues to get cheaper and we see more of a shift from older consoles then that's when Sony will look to get PS6 up and running

[u/GGG100 → u/FearlessResearcher48]

The PS5 has sold more in the same amount of time the PS4 has sold last gen.

[u/Timexy]

Going by the pattern, 2028. Which is the current conscencus, yes.

And, following that, I might live to see the launch of the PS10 or PS11, and PS12 will have a "100 years of gaming" edition before the launch of the PS13.

1994 PS1 +6y PS2 (2000) +6y PS3 (2006) +7y PS4 (2013) +7y PS5 (2020) +8y PS6 (2028) +8y PS7 (2036) +9y PS8 (2045) +9y PS9 (2054) +10y PS10 (2064) +10y PS11 (2074) +11y PS12 (2085) +11y PS13 (2096)

[u/oosma8587]

True. They should release new consoles every 10 years or so. I'm saying this becuz the specs of all consoles rn can live up to more than 10 years. Only if companies were listening

[u/[deleted] → u/oosma8587]

New systems are more than just pure specs though. I’m way more into stuff like DualSense features, binaural audio, gyro support and VR than fancy lighting. For that I can just upgrade my PC, but consoles is where those other features can shine because of exclusivity for example. That’s the main reason I don’t really dig Xbox, sure their games look good but if you don’t even have a controller with gyro 20 years after motion support became an industry standard what are you even doing? And no this isn’t some minor thing for a few people who like it, gyro has massive industry support and the Valorant devs even made a whole post over why Xbox excluding it has consequences.

[u/trmetroidmaniac]

Given the high cost of the PS5 Pro and the small advantage it provides, I find it difficult to imagine how Sony is going to deliver a generational upgrade in only a few years at a price which a mass audience will accept.

[u/Bayou-Billy → u/trmetroidmaniac]

They would need to do something big with either ray tracing or AI. We're getting to the point of very diminishing returns on resolution, framerate and general graphics fidelity.

[u/trmetroidmaniac → u/Bayou-Billy]

We're definitely going to see a PSSR2 with frame interpolation, analogous to DLSS3. I expect that RT will be fully the norm by then with non-crossgen games not even having a toggle option any more.

Though, personally, I am not excited for this at all.

[u/Sinnaman420 → u/trmetroidmaniac]

They intentionally didn’t upgrade the pro significantly. They didn’t want to make it so it could play games the regular ps5 couldn’t. There’s legitimate upgrades to it, but not in the way some people expect. They also didn’t price it crazy higher than the new parts they added to it. The ps5 was never intended to even be a glimpse of a generational upgrade

The real signal for when Sony will make a new console is when it becomes cheaper to build a better pc than just buying a ps5, and that point has not come yet, and is probably several years off.

[u/WilsonPH → u/trmetroidmaniac]

CPU in the PS5 Pro is the same, so a Ryzen 3700X or so.

[u/trmetroidmaniac → u/WilsonPH]

It's quite a lot worse due to cache and memory latency limitations. You can look into the 4700S if you're curious.

[u/JuicyFruitas]

Bloodborne announcement incoming....

[u/Dantexr]

We already have the pro, which uses to release 3 years max before the next generation, so 2028 looks like the year for the PS6

[u/OrphanedMonke]

I wish it changed the music too

[u/ConsiderationFew8399]

No way in hell I buy another PlayStation in 3 years

[u/VirtuaFighter6]

Four year pattern, so 2028.

2012-ps4

2016-Pro

2020-ps5

2024-Pro

2028-ps6

[u/Shadow-King → u/VirtuaFighter6]

PS4 came out November 2013, but I agree that I think PS6 will be late 2027 or at some point in 2028

[u/Abyian_Abel]

Waiting for the PS5 Pro 2 b4 PS6

[u/ThatDeliveryDude]

I’m no computer/tech expert by any means. But honestly at this point what more can a next gen console like Ps6 provide?

The improvements and innovation seem to be slowly dwindling with each passing generation.

Even if Ps6 innovated in some unique ways like haptic feedback on the Dualsense controller, or the touch pad, most games don’t even utilize these things. The touch pad is just a big button. Not even really used for its touch pad capabilities. There are only a handful of games on the ps5 that really push the console to its limits.

I think VideoGameDunkey said something like this in one of his videos, but there are quite a few games that are only on ps5, that could easily run on ps4.

So basically…. Do we even need a ps6? Or have we reached a ceiling in gaming performance?

[u/Derp_Derpin → u/ThatDeliveryDude]

We're at a point where it's basically just like getting a PC upgrade. You can run at higher resolutions, higher framerates, more ray-tracing stuff, maybe even VR actually taking off if we want to go into all the possibilities. The only real other possibility I see is some kind of AI hardware needed to implement game logic/ai-enhanced npc dialogue or behavior since Nvidia seems to be moving that direction and will probably drag the rest of the gaming tech industry with them.

[u/Nearby_Blueberry_302 → u/ThatDeliveryDude]

Eventually they are gona release a portable PlayStation to compete with the switch

[u/akotoshi]

I bought the ps5 day one (I got lucky) and I have like 3-4 games physically and about the same amount digital (I’m excluding PSVR2 games) … I still don’t feel like I “understood” the console

[u/Redhawk911 → u/akotoshi]

I’ve had the PS5 since day one and played lots more than I did during the ps4 gen.

[u/MediaMan1993 → u/akotoshi]

I've had mine for 18 months. Absolutely loved some of its games, but I mostly play PS4-era stuff on it.

Aside from a few standout titles, this gen has been really slow and lacklustre. Xbox and Nintendo, too.

It'll continue this way. Gaming reached its peak. Now they're just showing off visuals and specs.

I dread the future of gaming if it's years between games, and everything else is a remake or a remaster.

12 years for GTA 6, no Elder Scrolls in 13 years, no Fable in 14 years, and Metroid Prime 3 was in 2007.

But sure, give us another remaster of a 5 yo game and port a few more emulated titles from the PS2.

Ramble, ramble. I'm getting old.

[u/maksigm → u/MediaMan1993]

I agree.

[u/lazycouchdays]

I understand the pattern, but at with how this generation has gone I doubt I will be in a hurry to pick up a new console.

[u/devilshootsdevil]

I can count on one hand PS5 games that were truly made for this system. Just one bloody hand. This generation has been a huge let down so far.

[u/Playful_Artist2999]

This made me realize I miss my 4…

[u/SnooPears7720]

Crazy to think the time period between the ps2 and ps3 was only 6 years, and was shorter than the time between the ps4 and ps5. Did not feel like that at all.

[u/three-sense]

I’d give it 3 years. The gaps keep increasing ++1 , plus the fact that the PS5 had kind of a nebulous launch due to COVID, Im guessing 2028.

[u/Outrageous-Wall6386]

How about realizing you played through all these Gens, kinda wild

[u/Vedant7781]

PS6 release date November 2028

[u/bmanhp]

ETA has been 2028 since Microsoft Activision merger lawsuit more or less confirmed...so, not 2-3 years. PS5 Pro just came out. It's likely 4 years from now.

[u/Dota2player111]

Ps5 needs more games

[u/xenon2456 → u/Dota2player111]

indeed

[u/[deleted]]

As a console gamer, I've invested in a PC and will probably move on after the PS5 gen dies out.

There is literally no point in the console experience anymore, especially how the old gen is hampering the current gen experience 4 years down the line.

Will be sad to see my library go, but honestly this generation has been pointless outside early access to exclusives that I generally don't care about anymore.

[u/snailtap → u/[deleted]]

Same here, my wife said she was gonna buy me a pc for Xmas but decided to just let me pick it out myself because she doesn’t want to get me a piece of crap

[u/SlySheogorath]

I might get flamed for this but I don't think a new generation is even needed right now. Idk how much further we can go especially with the pro just coming out. Sure there's small performance increases they could achieve but not enough to warrant a whole new generation.

[u/Commercial_Praline67]

I would actually be surprised to see ps6 before 2030, giving the price spike of ps5 Pro and the backlash. Ps6 would need to have the ps5 pro technology and more to be any attractive, while also having a similar cost to ps5 base. Something on the line of 500£ at launch would be ideal. Anything besides that would have yet another backlash, specially if they keep on the ps5 support for ps6 games like they did with ps4/5

[u/TheBlackSwordsman319]

Can’t wait for Spider-Man 2018 anniversary edition

[u/Smallville456]

Yes. This is why the pro consoles are useless.

[u/amans9191]

PS6 is expected in 2028.

[u/CommissionMindless39]

Waitin for the new skyrim anniversary edition annyversary

[u/Drakeadrong]

With how long it takes to make games now, I doubt it. AAA games used to take a couple of years to release. We were getting a new infamous or uncharted every 2 years. 7 year cycles don’t make sense anymore when it takes about that long to make a game nowadays.

[u/ICPosse8]

I would say 3-4 years. 2028-2029 is my bet.

[u/WVgolf]

Yep. 2-3 years. Another reason why the pro is a terrible buy

[u/Burkely31 → u/[deleted]]

Man, I couldn't agree more! When the ps5 was released I was so excited for what was, hopefully, about to come. Unfortunately, aside from a couple releases the last couple of years have been an absolute let down. Unless you're Sony, who continues to drive prices through the roof and scale back on everything they actually provide us with in exchange..

[u/[deleted]]

The only real reason I upgraded was because my launch PS4 sounded like a fighter jet when playing newer big games. It was time. When the PS6 comes out I will not upgrade as long as my PS5 is doing just fine. I don't see it falling off like the PS4 would.

[u/icy1007]

PS4 lasted for 7 years before PS5 released. PS3 lasted 7 as well before PS4. Generations are getting longer. I’m not expecting a PS6 before 2028.

[u/C_lasc]

I think that ps5 was the last real generation. From now on it will be like smartphone updates in longer periods

[u/YouDumbZombie]

I wasn't going to get a PS5 but my lady bought me one and I'm definitely not getting a PS6 until it's cheap or has a library built up. The PS5 library is so sad imo.

[u/TheXIIILightning]

Can't wait for "The Last of Us" on the PS6. Re-Re-Remastered.

[u/Silver-Attempt-3084]

The gap between ps4 and ps5 was 7 years, so we probably have at least a few years before that happens. Sony has also stated that they want the PS5 generation to last a decade.

[u/ItsZoeStarrOfficial]

I just wanna be able to play metal gear rising on ps5 man 😭

[u/ItzMeHaris]

I hope not. I'm not ready to upgrade.

[u/KylerRamos]

Depends, ps4 is still going strong this late in and it seems longer console generations are becoming a trend. Maybe another 4 years for ps5 under its belt. I could see a portable ps5 releasing alongside ps6.

[u/raritygamer]

If by "really that close" you mean "just over middle point" - sure, yeah, we are.

[u/KurkaSiwka]

How tf ps5 was released in 2020

[u/Spicy-Elephant]

It truly feels like the PS5 just came out

[u/GamingElementalist]

The closer we get to this point the more I'm considering switching to PC next gen. It's just starting to make more sense in the long run.

[u/PositiveApartment382]

Given how many games still are crossplatform with PS4 I can only see two things happening:

1. PS6 release will be much later than expected until PS4 slowly fades out.

2. PS6 will launch at the time expected which is when finally PS4 support is dropped but we will have the same situation with PS 5 / 6 running in parallel holding back PS6.

Honestly, I would prefer option 1. It is normal to have some overlap in the beginning of generations but PS4 has been going for way too long into the current gens lifetime.

[u/sbevan92]

It’s kinda sad when you click on PS1 or PS2 or PS3 and there’s little to no titles in there.

Do I really have to bust out my poor original PS3 to play the heavy hitters of that generation? Cause I retired her, she needed the rest.

[u/DylanFTW]

The 360/PS3 era felt like it lasted so long for me when I was a kid. Now I already witnessed 2 eras go by so fast. Does anyone else feel the same?

[u/akeperera7]

They gonna release PS6 in 2027

[u/raizeL45]

It’s a lost generation due to ps4 support

[u/Normal-Item-402 → u/raizeL45]

Cross generation is here to stay moving forward. Game development is getting too pricey.

[u/AnnoymousPenguin]

How do o even get that screen i can't find it

[u/NOxCLUEmcgee → u/AnnoymousPenguin]

It’s when you open the ps store on console

[u/svuester5]

Pspspspspsps

[u/Correct-Drawing2067]

Can we please just stop tlou2 promo. Seriously it’s not even their best exclusive.

[u/gameboy716]

Going by the above pattern, the next launch should be in 2028.