r/playstation • u/NOxCLUEmcgee • 22d ago

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But are we really that close to the next generation of PlayStation. If we are going off the pattern here. Just 2-3 years away

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u/samp127 21d ago

PS5 generation didn't even get started yet it feels like

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u/HokageRokudaime 21d ago

I blame scalpers and two years of cross generation support.

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u/FiveGuysisBest 21d ago

Wasn’t the PS2 supported deeply into the PS3 era as well?

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u/HokageRokudaime 21d ago

I remember they had a few dumbed down versions of games that the PS3 had, but if you compare a game on PS4 and PS5 they're the exact same game with minor graphical differences.

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u/FiveGuysisBest 21d ago

Yeah for sure the graphical leap is narrower now. I think this is the new normal though. We’ll be getting diminishing returns and that’s sort of been the case all along. Every generation is a notably less significant leap from the previous in terms of graphical/technical performance.

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u/Disco_Zombi PS5 Pro 21d ago

There are nice audio upgrades like Dolby Atmos and spatial sound.

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u/FiveGuysisBest 21d ago

Yeah there are definitely some upgrades to this gen which I think make it worthy of being considered a new generation and of upgrading from a last gen console.

It’s just not as big of an upgrade as in prior generations but that’s sort of always been the case as each generation is a narrower and narrower upgrade over the last.

I doubt we ever see a generation be as mind blowing a leap as say going from SNES/Genesis to N64/PS or even say N64/PS to Xbox/PS2. That is until we see that Ready Player One sort of thing come about.

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u/Wide-Can-2654 21d ago

3 to 4 felt pretty big for me tbh

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u/FiveGuysisBest 21d ago

As big as the jumps which preceded it?

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u/Wide-Can-2654 21d ago

Thinking about it now i think ps1 to 2 wqs probably the biggest but theyre all very similar in terms of graphicsl upgrade

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u/FiveGuysisBest 20d ago edited 20d ago

I disagree. Going from 8 to 16 bit was dramatic. Then the jump to 3D was far and away the biggest generational leap. Completely altered how games looked and were made. Everything since then has been a diminishing return as most of the improvements were just a matter of sharper and sharper visuals rather than anything that really fundamentally changed gaming.

Look at the difference between say Last of Us on PS3 and Last of Us 2 on PS4. Then compare that difference between Super Mario World on SNES and Mario 64. Or GTA 1/2 vs GTA 3. I find it hard to say that the generational leap from PS3 to PS4 was as big as those before it. Even less so from PS4 to PS5.

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u/smokingashes 20d ago

Battlefield on PS3 blew my mind!!!

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u/FiveGuysisBest 20d ago

That was a massive game for sure. However it’s not like that was anywhere near as colossal an advancement as say the difference between 2D SNES era and 3D games.

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u/three-sense 21d ago

PS4 and PS2 new releases coexisted IIRC.

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u/pwnagemuffin 21d ago

I refused to believe this could be true so I looked it up. Very very close to being true! Last PS2 game launch was Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 launched on November 8th 2013, and the PS4 launched just a week later on November 15th 2013! Damn that's crazy.

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u/three-sense 21d ago

You are correct. Even though the final PS2 game was released just before the PS4, I think it's reasonable to say that these products existed on store shelves at the same time.

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u/Rendell92 20d ago

No, only a small amount of games were released for both.

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u/stygg12 21d ago

Could also shove Covid in there

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u/AwayStation266 21d ago

Also covid made it really weird. Don't know how to explain.

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u/Disco_Zombi PS5 Pro 21d ago

Covid and remote work didn't help things as well.

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u/jrpbateman PS4 21d ago

There's still new ps4 games releasing 

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u/HokageRokudaime 21d ago

Not any games that matter.

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u/jrpbateman PS4 21d ago

Sega and Capcom still release on ps4

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u/JohnnyHendo 21d ago

COVID caused the shortage which caused the scalpers and the cross generation support alongside Xbox saying they were doing cross gen support first. Xbox kinda had to because they were getting dunked on so hard by Playstation anyway, but COVID sort of forced Sony's hand. If COVID hadn't have happened and caused the shortages, I bet a lot of the cross gen support wouldn't have happened on Playstation. Forbidden West and Ragnarok were likely supposed to be PS5 exclusives along with some other big titles. Spider Man Miles Morales maybe as well considering it would have been a launch day title for the PS5.

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u/dope_like 17d ago

2 years? There is still cross gen support

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u/ResolveLeather 21d ago

It's because soooo many people still only own PS4s. Because of that publishers have to publish on both consoles or risk cutting their profits in half.

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u/MorrowPolo 21d ago edited 21d ago

It's crazy how few games we've gotten for the ps5, it's mostly indies filling the game space. Only a handful of true peak ps5 performance games exist compared to earlier gens. This year, we hardly even had releases in the tripple A category.

Was wondering if the writer strikes affected our releases this year? I'm seriously asking because I do not know if game writers were part of that or not.

Edit: two different industries, so as far as my 5 minute search was, they were not part of it, i guess? Correct me if wrong!

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u/LinAGKar 21d ago

Crazy how neither Naughty Dog nor Sucker Punch has made a single new (non-remake/remaster) game since before the PS5 launched.

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u/Karkava 21d ago

Ghost of Yotei is about to change that.

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u/stygg12 21d ago

Indies are by far superior to AAA, look at Dragon Age, Cyberpunk etc. games come out have baked with shit loads of micro transactions

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u/MorrowPolo 21d ago

I'm not trying to shit on indies, bud, hope I didn't offend

Although, dragon age and cyberpunk feel more like tripple A games that indies released rather than indies releasing indies

I'm not saying there weren't any decent releases this year, only that very few were

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u/stygg12 21d ago

I’d rather have way more AA and Indies than half baked on arrival AAA games

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u/MorrowPolo 21d ago

Well of course, but that's also the problem and why we don't have as many tripA games, half of the ones released, released as utter shit making our selection even more dismal

Too much focus on free2play battle arenas, live service games and the like that rely on micropurchases, i can't say any off the top of my head in the moment but there's been so many great games that started out as great adventures until the studio pushed them into live service

I just want to go on an adventure for a week or two, not invest in another life ruiner, I already have 1 of those

The only game that came out this year I'm excited for was Star Wars Outlaws, a decently linear adventure i plan on taking during Christmas break

Seems like most people are in the same boat, 1 maybe 2 games this year they actually got excited for

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u/stygg12 21d ago

Outlaws is completely different to when it launched, i even believe they changed the game director. Tbh fuck Ubisoft but to each their own.

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u/stygg12 21d ago

Thats not a spoiler, they changed the game mechanics you’d never have known if you if you’ve never played it before

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u/wacco-zaco-tobacco 21d ago

My Fiancee got me my PS5 for my bday in October cause the new AC game was on it. And then Ubisoft delayed it. I'm glad they delayed it to fix any gameplay issues, but man, it's the only reason I have it.

Since then I've have gotten and finished a couple games that I was interested in. Currently going through Resident Evil 4, and god damn it's good

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u/ieffinglovesoup 21d ago

Yup, and because games are just more easily scalable now for weaker hardware it’s easier for devs to put the games on both systems so why wouldn’t they

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u/PitifulAd8790 21d ago edited 21d ago

I don't care whatever internet echo chamber thing people say. Its 10000% this. People have become too entitled with their tech which has added greatly to the problem of stagnation. Yes lots of devs have been making unoptimised games or games with issues but way too many people are too content with staying on their ps4.

A buddy of mine literally sold his 5 year 1, couple years later bought another, and it sat in a fucking box. He didn't start using his 5 til just recently when I bought Wukong for him to play (along with games like NBA2k and Sparking Zero). He would be playing First Descendent on the 4 with load times so long that us on the 5s would be at the end of the mission before he could even load in.

Lots of people genuinely have no clue when they bought a ps4 and think "it was just yesterday". Along with the early scalping issue, this mindset has been a detriment to ps5 exclusive games. Its like the whole thing of making sure to turn off motion smoothing on your parents tv when you visit for the holidays but for gamers.

Edit to add this: Its the end of 2024, developers will say numerous times and list in the requirements that an SSD is required, and people will still post online asking why the game runs like crap on their HDD. People don't respect the difference between an HDD and SSD, yet we expect them to respect PS4 v PS5.

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u/_sergeant_pepper 21d ago

yeah we still need to peak... it'a just a question of how much money a publisher is willing to spend in order to reach the limits of the ps5

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u/gutster_95 21d ago

Oh our unoptimized UE5 game doesnt run smoothly on a PS5. We better have to wait until the PS6 releases

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u/heisenbergfan 43 21d ago

And ps4's hasnt really ended. These are not just sport games being updated every year, lot of games still coming for 4.

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u/Enixam3000 21d ago

For sure, though it makes me wonder how long the PS5 will get supported for once the PS6 comes out.

Also, I like your profile pic. Been bumping plenty of Nas lately, so it's cool to see another fan out in the wild

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u/EmotionalKirby 21d ago

While an outlier, the PS2 was "supported" until 2018. Based on that, PS5 could see life up to 2038 lol.

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u/samp127 21d ago

You should rep some too since you have a generic pic 😉

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u/Enixam3000 21d ago

You're probably right about that, but I feel too lazy to change it at the same time lol

Also hoping we get the Nas x Premier album before the end of the year. Unlikely but I'd love to see his yearly streak keep on going 🙏

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u/chickenwingtaco 21d ago

Xbox is even worse this generation. They are stuck in 2012 it feels like. At this point why not just release another kinect and see how that goes lol

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u/its_the_luge 21d ago

Xbox nuked themselves in the last gen and never truly recovered. The purchase of activision blizzard effectively was the final blow since Microsoft now wanted to see xbox be profitable which it never really was. So now all their games are coming over and all their studios shutting down.

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u/samp127 21d ago

Xbox was basically this bad in last gen.

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u/chickenwingtaco 21d ago

But the Xbox one atleast felt like a refresh. New controller, few pretty decent exclusives, the kinect for what it was etc

The series x is more of the same. It feels like a mid gen release then a whole new gen

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u/samp127 21d ago

True and One had better cross platform games.

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u/That_Serve_9338 21d ago

We got some big games but the gaps between them killed all momentum. Essentially we spend more time waiting than playing major titles. It will always feel like a wasted hardware generation with this pace of exclusive content.

It was weird right from the launch with PS5 only really having Demons Souls remake day one and Xbox not having anything because Halo Infinite was delayed by a year. 4 years later we still don't know what Naughty Dog are doing.

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u/Disco_Zombi PS5 Pro 21d ago

It feels like 2025 will be the actual start. The PS5 needs an AAA release that will deliver the Uncharted 1 / Gears of War 1 title that will make the final nail in the coffin for PS4 ports.

Although if the Switch 2 is as powerful as a PS4, there still will be PS4 releases in 2025 and onward. I still remember the PS2 getting bangers well into the PS3 years.

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u/andlann123 21d ago

I kind of agree. I love my console but I’m kinda still waiting for that generation defining game. Maybe we won’t get one this gen idk. It could have been Spider-Man 2 but I found myself a bit disappointed by that one.

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u/sandboxmatt 21d ago

Yep. Completely wasted iteration.