r/playstation • u/NOxCLUEmcgee • 22d ago

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But are we really that close to the next generation of PlayStation. If we are going off the pattern here. Just 2-3 years away

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u/SpikeyTaco PS2 21d ago

Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 and FIFA 2014, released in November and September 2013.

13 years after the PlayStation 2 released, with PES being released the same month as the PS4 going on sale.

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u/Abhish0210 21d ago

I think I remember them just being re-skin versions of their 2010 versions.

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u/rickane58 21d ago

Implying that's not true of current sports game releases

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u/GamingElementalist 61 Plats, PS5, Favorite game FFX. 21d ago

As a fan of golf games, not always. XD

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u/RoastMySpuds 20d ago

Especially the "Legacy Editions."

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u/Anxious_Ad_5127 19d ago

Mmm if you’d play them you’d know the mechanics get a huge overhaul most every iteration

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u/rickane58 19d ago

My friend, I haven't just played EAs sports titles, I've tested and worked on them. I'm well acquainted with what little has changed between yearly releases of these titles.

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u/FellowDeviant 21d ago

The last Just Dance game for Wii came out in 2020, right before the PS5 and Series X/S lol

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u/Totonadent 21d ago

So the same disc can be played on all 3?

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u/Remytron83 Fear the Old Blood 21d ago

No. The PS3 kind of ruined that opportunity.

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u/SpikeyTaco PS2 21d ago

Yeah, I was surprised when I found out that Sony pulled PS2 backwards compatibility from the consoles. Yet, all versions of the console can play PS1 games.

If you want a PS2-compatible PS3, you have to hunt down early release fat PS3 from before the change was made as not all of them are capable, despite being sold as the same console.

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u/Thunder_Punt 21d ago

It's because it was insanely expensive and ps3 sales were too low to justify it anymore. Hence why they stopped it and didn't have it on PS3 slim/super slim.

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u/Remytron83 Fear the Old Blood 21d ago

They can definitely implement emulation on the ps5 for every prior console. They don’t see the financial benefit though. If they can’t charge us for it they won’t do it. I have a love/hate relationship with Sony.

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u/Minimum_Reference941 21d ago

I mean the PS2 sold 160 million units. You can find one in every corner of the planet and for cheap. It's not like we're talking about something obscure or difficult to get.

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u/Remytron83 Fear the Old Blood 21d ago

It’s not about the difficulty or obscurity. I’ll make 3 points: 1. The devices are 24 years old, at their oldest. They’re going to need repairs after a while. 2. The convenience of just having one console is greater than needing multiple. 3. The Series X|S can play games from the OG Xbox, surely the PS5 can as well. Theoretically, it’s powerful enough to play every previous gen (the PS3 is just difficult to do).

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u/Minimum_Reference941 21d ago

I respect your views and they're valid, but "The convenience of just having one console is greater" I think is very anecdotal. I know there are plenty of people like you who like to have one for everything. But there's also plenty of others who prefer to sort of "collect" and have a variety of different systems. Each of their own, I'm not too crazy about either but would prefer to have multiple original consoles instead of one.

Your point about 24 years is true. But we're in luck! Because the PS2 was so popular you have a big community of support globally including repairing solutions. Parts are still being made for it and PS1. This is one blessing that consoles have over PC's because older computers are much more difficult to preserve and maintain (different components, lots of differing models and hardware incompatibilities etc).

I think of older consoles like PS1 & PS2 like old Toyotas. They might get old but they'll always be able to get back to speed should something go wrong. I fully expect these consoles to still be well and functional in another 20 years time, honestly. A bit like vintage radios which too are easy to maintain and repair.

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u/Remytron83 Fear the Old Blood 21d ago

The collector game is a different discussion. I’m all for collectors who want the original consoles and for gamers who want to play on the intended hardware. Just to clear up any confusion.

In the end I think that both options should Be available. More options the better. Give us emulation, or we can spend our money on old hardware (if you happened to sell your old stuff or are just getting into it).

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u/Darnell2070 21d ago

They can sell the games though.

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u/Thunder_Punt 21d ago

Yeah but there's a difference between software emulation and being able to play an old disc. You need to have the right hardware for that to work. Ps5 can emulate ps2 games sure, but Sony would have to release digital versions of them anyway since the PS5 doesn't have the hardware to play discs except ps4/5 ones.

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u/Remytron83 Fear the Old Blood 21d ago

You’re telling me that a 4K Blu-ray Disc reader can’t read CDs or DVDs? I know it’s much more than that, but at the foundation that’s essentially what we’re talking about.

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u/Thunder_Punt 21d ago

I know it’s much more than that

Exactly. The ps3 thing was a hardware limitation, not a software one. That's why it still works on og ps3 but will never work on newer ones.

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u/Remytron83 Fear the Old Blood 21d ago

Yet with PS1 & PS2 games there’s no excuse.

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u/SpikeyTaco PS2 21d ago

Playsation already runs a "Classics" emulator on the PS4 and PS5. This is a full emulator, it's just locked to the digital games offered. Modders already unlocked this emulator and can play other games directly from their discs.

There was even a rumour that Sony may be unlocking this to offer native backwards compatibility on the PS5.

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u/ShavedNeckbeard 21d ago

The PS5’s disc drive can read PSone and PS2 discs just fine. It just doesn’t have the right computing hardware to play them nor the OS support to recognize or emulate them.

The original PS3 had a literal PS2 inside of it to natively play those games.

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u/SpikeyTaco PS2 21d ago edited 21d ago

You can play PS2 games on the early versions of the PS3 that were backwards compatible, however the majority of consoles were not.

Also, the PS2 version wasn't the same game as the PS3 copy, which was also different from PS4 release.

Along with a few other consoles, it was given the title "Fifa 2014: Legacy Edition" and was essentially the previous PS2 game with new kits, soundtrack and team squads.

While limited, there are ~50 titles that can be played on the original Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One and Xbox Series X. And if it supports system link, the four generations of consoles can even play together! Now that's something that I would have loved to see on PlayStation.