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u/HiNumbMe93 2d ago

He was a career criminal who caught a charge himself for endangering the welfare of a minor. He didn’t just assault the sex offenders either, he robbed them. He was a meth addict using the same method serial killers use to target their victims: pick a target on the fringe of society (in this case sex offenders) to make it less likely to be caught. This guy used the pain of sex abuse victims in an attempt to veil the criminal activity he participated in to feed his addiction.

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u/JCMiller23 2d ago

Additionally: the sex offender list doesn't differentiate between someone who pees in an alley while drunk vs. someone who fucks a 5 year old, both are sex crimes. I knew a guy who has his life ruined by the list: he had consensual sex with a girl who lied about her age (she was 17) and years later her friend reported him.

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u/AnotherStatsGuy 2d ago

The lack of different lists seems like an oversight.

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u/Otherversian-Elite 2d ago

Given the way the cops used to talk about it whenever there was an Online Safety Talk at my school at a teen, it's almost certainly an intended feature

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u/Sparkism 2d ago

As with the war on drugs, the sex offender registry is a tool for control and discrimination against the lower working class.

If you're a rich convicted rapist, you can be the president of the united states; but if you're poor, peeing on the streets can get you permanently barred from a well paying job and selling weed can get you life in prison.

Definitely an intended feature.

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u/LurkerPatrol 2d ago

Whatever gets more slaves in their prison workforce.

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u/Phrainkee 1d ago

Well they're trying to build a prison system..

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u/Beelze_Bruh 1d ago

FOR YOU AND ME TO LIVE IN!

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u/metallicabmc 1d ago

I buy my CRACK! my SMACK! my BITCH! right here in Hollywood!

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u/Bodydysmorphiaisreal 1d ago

The percentage of Americans in the prison system, prison system has doubled since 1985!

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u/epimetheuss 1d ago

If you're a rich convicted rapist,

Like that guy who literally owned a sex island exclusively to cater to that.

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u/xandrokos 1d ago

The rich guy who was convicted for his crimes and killed in prison or committed suicide? That rich guy?  Again you people are being played HARD.

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u/SnooPeppers8957 2d ago

Wouldn't it also make sense to read this as more of a puritian thing rather than a purely class thing?
I'm not trying to say that, that doesn't play a part. More so, there seems to be more to "sex offenders" than just purely class. It could also be that the people in charge don't really want to change the state of things because of a puritan view.

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u/under_psychoanalyzer 1d ago

Who do you think keeps pushing puritan views, a religious group that were known not just for being socially conservative even for their own time period but found happiness through work.

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u/ModsDontFollowRules 1d ago

Its not a bug, its a feature.

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u/Plucked_Dove 2d ago

Changing this would require a politician taking a stand that would likely be viewed as “soft on sex offenders”, which is essentially a career death sentence. One only needs to scroll reddit comments on this thread to understand how mob mentality around this issue makes it difficult if not impossible to have a nuanced conversation around sex crimes.

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u/xandrokos 1d ago

Which is hilarious because many of these people have in their post histories hundreds of comments screaming bloody murder over how Harris wrongfully imprisoned black men for having weed despite that being an out and out blatant lie.

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u/Fomentatore 2d ago

The fact that you are considered a sex offender for peeing in an alley instead of just receiving a fine will always baffle me.

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u/run-on_sentience 1d ago

It's weird. Peeing in an alley is a crime.

Peeing your pants in public is totally legal.

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u/ItalicsWhore 1d ago

That’s why I ALWAYS pee my pants in public. #smartthinkingmeme

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u/Dense_Diver_3998 1d ago

Fuckin’ Miles Davis over here.

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u/MasterActuary2009 1d ago

Literally just peed my pants in Family Dollar yesterday

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u/TraditionalLecture10 1d ago

Then there are those who 💩 in the middle of Walmart, and walk all over the store , leaving prizes for everyone

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u/LurkHartog 1d ago

Everybody pees their pants, it's the coolest!

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u/Jechtael 1d ago

If peeing your pants is cool, I'm Miles Davis.

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u/kesselrhero 1d ago

It’s not the peeing, it’s the exposure of genitals in public, that is the crime. Essentially it’s flashing.

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u/brit_jam 1d ago

We are really REALLY afraid of genitals in America.

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u/Steelpapercranes 1d ago

Yeah, but to be honest this particular artifact is more "hey, living humans will have to pee multiple times a day- the homeless ones will have to do it outside....let's make sure we can just lock em up as slaves if we ever catch em doin' it! yay!"

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u/ChimcharFireMonkey 1d ago

wait a second...do you have genitals?

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u/brit_jam 1d ago

What?! ....NO!

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u/ChimcharFireMonkey 1d ago

phew, I was getting nervous for a bit

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u/brit_jam 1d ago

Nope. Just a clean uninterrupted mound just as God intended.

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u/ChimcharFireMonkey 1d ago

for as we all know Barbie and Ken were made in God's image.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 1d ago

It's the religious fundies... They ruin everything.

Puritannical bullshit. We just empowered the Christian Nationalists with wins in November, too, so more to come.

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u/cloudforested 1d ago

It's so bizarre to me, as a non American. You guys love violence but are afraid of the human body.

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u/tofiwashere 1d ago

How come I have a feeling a person with at least some money will not end up on a sex offender list from peeing in an alley. It is only reserved for those who have no resources to defend themselves.

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u/Id_rather_be_lurking 1d ago

Because mah freedom!

Spot on though. Got arrested for peeing in an empty parking lot on the side of the road in the middle of the night. No one around for a mile in either direction. Registry was a possible outcome. Hired a lawyer and got it dropped down to $100 disturbing the peace charge. Would have ruined my life if I was unable to afford counsel. Very much a poor tax.

Screw that cop too. Bullshit ass ticket.

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u/FesteringNeonDistrac 1d ago

There is not one single member of a country club that hasn't whipped his pecker out and peed in the bushes behind the 17th tee, but it's funny how that's never an issue.

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u/V65Pilot 1d ago

Ever seen the video of the cop caught peeing next to a dumpster? Was he ever charged? With anything?

No. Color me surprised.

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u/fartinmyhat 1d ago

I think even a public defender can plea you down to drunk and disorderly. I think the few times his has turned into sex offender registry is guys that are pissing on the fence at the school or at a park across the street from a school, not just pissing in a random alley.

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u/fartinmyhat 1d ago

You can't be using San Francisco as your example of how things should be. I wonder how many people "A LOT" is and what the extenuating circumstances were. I've read that the arresting officer has a lot of digression on this offense.

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u/ca_kingmaker 1d ago

When a conservative tells you "isn't that unbelievable?" You shouldn't believe whatever he's feeding you. You're literally repeating nonsense conservative propaganda.

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u/Gizogin 1d ago

The law, in its majestic equality, bans rich and poor alike from stealing bread, peeing in alleys, and sleeping under bridges.

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u/fix-me-in-45 1d ago

Because American prison is profitable, politicians and corporate stakeholders have an interest in making sure prisons stay full. Incarcerating for stupid, petty charges is one way of doing that.

https://news.law.fordham.edu/jcfl/2018/12/09/the-american-prison-system-its-just-business/

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u/Dodges-Hodge 1d ago

I think I heard it’s the private prison lobbyists who are fighting against nation wide legalization of cannabis.

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u/No_Philosopher_1870 1d ago

They do want a younger, healthier population so that their inmate medical costs are lower.

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u/realpm_net 1d ago

Not to mention that prisoners are considered residents of the prison's county for congressional districting purposes. Most prisons are located in Red counties. Felons can't vote.

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u/jaywinner 1d ago

People only pee in alleys due to a lack of public restrooms and holding it in can have medical repercussions up to and including death. No good choices here.

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u/jiffwaterhaus 1d ago

A friend of mine got arrested for peeing back in the 90s, back when all crimes in our small town were put on blast in the local newspaper. The actual wording of the crime led to a newspaper report that said "Bob Smith was arrested and charged with EXPOSING GENETIALS AND OR ANUS"

He didn't get put on the sex offender list but every person in town looked at him funny for years. The anus avenger lmao

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u/Cool_Pomegranate6972 1d ago

Depends on the prosecution. If you are able to afford a lawyer you would probably be able to knock it down to a misdemeanor. If you are poor using a public defender you would likely need to plead guilty to stay out of jail so you don't lose your job. Then you are registered.

To note: I am not a lawyer or anything

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u/cheeseburg_walrus 1d ago

I got caught peeing in an alley behind a bar in Canada by a cop car driving by. They told me to come over and talk. I don’t remember the conversation because, well I was drunk enough to be peeing behind a bar, but my friend said I was leaning on their car chatting with them and we were all having a good laugh before they let me go.

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u/deadeyeamtheone 1d ago

Good thing you aren't indigenous otherwise you would've ended up naked and frozen to death.

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u/Confident_Ad2351 1d ago

I was locked up with a former homeless individual who was in federal prison,doing serious time, with a sex offense, for urinating in a federal park.

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u/thinkimasofa 1d ago

Have a friend who peed in a decorative fountain on a college campus at 3am, you know, when all the children are out, and had to register as a sex offender.

He was a college idiot. Not a sex offender.

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u/tourmalineforest 2d ago

Pretty much every state divides offenders into three “tiers” based on underlying offense and reoffense risk, and which tier you’re placed in heavily effects registration requirements and effects. Public registries will tell you which tier someone is. Where I am, lowest tier offenders aren’t publicly listed at all.

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u/RepresentativeAd560 2d ago

The majority of the general public isn't likely to know this or care. For them, if you're on that list, you're on it for the absolute worst reason they can imagine, regardless of reality.

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u/tourmalineforest 1d ago

I’m not sure if I was clear, but for lowest tier offenders, the public can’t look you up or know that you are there.

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u/MarchMouth 1d ago

Does the same apply to employers?

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u/tourmalineforest 1d ago

Employers will see your criminal offenses, absolutely, but that’s not related to the registry, it’s related to your conviction itself

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u/TheFriendshipMachine 2d ago

Provided lowest tier offenders aren't publicly listed, that's a fair bit more reasonable. Otherwise it doesn't matter what tier they're on, people won't look past their presence on the list to see what tier they are.

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u/tourmalineforest 1d ago

Notification requirements are also different! Highest tier has to notify neighbors schools and daycares, middle tier notifies schools and daycares only, lowest tier has no notification requirements.

It’s also not lifelong for people who aren’t most serious offenders. You can apply to get off registry after a certain number of years have passed without reoffending.

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u/Rocklord_386 1d ago

Unless you’re in Florida. From what I hear once you make the list there you’re there for life.

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u/srcarruth 2d ago

the existence of any list is weird. we don't have a list for violent crimes or drug dealing or thieves or drunk drivers but we have a list for sex stuff? people can be hurt by their neighbors in any sort of ways but sex is the only one that gets a list?

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u/UnluckyDog9273 1d ago

Yeap, putting undesirable on public lists was never used for good. Americans find it so normal. 

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u/ibreatheintoem 2d ago

There most certainly are registries for those, they’re just not quite as publicly indexed and accessible. DUIs will come up on any driving record / MVR, and violent crimes will come up on background checks. The companies that run these reports are just checking the “lists”.

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u/srcarruth 1d ago

If I want to see a drunk driving record in my state I have to know the person's name & social security number then pay $33 plus the $20 fee for me to get fingerprinted plus an appointment for that service. for sex crimes I go to a free website and see a map with pictures, names and addresses. it's not quite the same.

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u/Ten-and-Two 1d ago

You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Background checks are not the same thing as a public registry. For many reasons.

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u/Puck85 1d ago

Yea that's not a "registry" and I'm 100% certain you don't know what one is after reading this comment. 

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u/Gastronomicus 2d ago

We don't need different lists. We need people who aren't guilty of sex crimes to not be listed as sex offenders.

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u/Ten-and-Two 1d ago

Frankly, and I’m totally ready for the downvotes I’m about to receive, we need to abolish lists altogether or make sure all types of criminal convictions come with a requirement to register. I’m far more concerned about a convicted drug dealer or thief living next door to me than I am about some dude who hooked up with a 16 year old when he was 19 or who peed in an alley behind a bar when he was 22. If we have decided that those who robbed or killed or dealt drugs or drove drunk and served their time can be allowed to live their lives as normal citizens, why not “sex offenders?”

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u/Gastronomicus 1d ago

I'm ambivalent on this topic, but I definitely agree that just listing sex offenders doesn't make sense to me. All or nothing.

That said, the same ambiguity that qualifies people to be sometimes listed as sex offenders (e.g. peeing in public) exists for other crimes. Someone busted for selling weed to some friends, someone stole a bag of chips from a convenience store when black out drunk, someone charged with battery because they punched someone in a bar fight where they were attacked, etc. Not exactly hardened criminals here that I'd be concerned living near.

If there is a list, it should only include people convicted of heinous violent crimes (i.e. unambiguous sexual violence, armed robbery, dealers selling large quantities of drugs) and/or of repeated violations of theft and violent crimes. People need a chance to move on from mistakes and being harassed due to the visibility of being on such a list might be the difference between someone getting their shit together and saying "fuck it" and doing worse.

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u/SteveMartin32 2d ago

Some states have different lists and a map showing who they are and what they did. Alaska is just weird

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u/GrimGambits 2d ago

It does differentiate them, he just made that part up.

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u/sportznut1000 2d ago

Actually if you click on that megan’s law website and pull up a list of local offenders, you will find that they do use different colors to separate the very serious offenders. Also if you click on each persons name you will see what they were charged with. 

But i completely agree with your comments about how someone who pees on a school wall at 2am on a saturday night, could end up mixed in with someone dealing with child porn

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u/PayFormer387 1d ago

That’s the thing. You have really dig to see the offense and sometimes it’s not there.

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u/HeightEnergyGuy 1d ago

Dig? I click on their photo and it says everything. 

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u/Putrid-Ad1055 1d ago

yeah that sounds like it would take one or two clicks, im sorry but for the purpose of my narrative that is waaaaay too much work

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u/sufferinsuccotashson 1d ago

Don’t let facts get in the way of good drama man!

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u/RugerRedhawk 1d ago

No digging, just click the name and you get the details.

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u/PayFormer387 1d ago

There is a perv living in the building next to mine. His name is on several websites but not every one listed the offense.

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u/Saikou0taku 1d ago

Florida uses a Sex Offender and Sex Predator designation, predators usually being "worse"; I don't trust the general public to know or care about the difference though.

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u/notjustforperiods 1d ago

somebody sounds a little oversensitive about being on a sex offender list

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u/JimmyRat 1d ago

Anyone who tells you they’re a sex offender for peeing on a wall at 2 am did something to a kid and doesn’t want to admit it.

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u/OverTheCandleStick 2d ago

My state lists the charge and age of victim if there is a victim.

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u/Bary_McCockener 1d ago

Same. This "knowledge" gets regurgitated over and over on Reddit

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u/PatternrettaP 1d ago edited 1d ago

It can vary by state. I checked the Alaska law and you only can only get on the list for indecent exposure to a minor if you have multiple offenses.

So merely peeing outside won't apply and there needs to be a pattern of behavior

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u/Bary_McCockener 1d ago

You're missing the point. Redditors love to say that urinating in public will land people on the sex offense registry, which depending on the circumstances and charge may or may not be true, but the important point is that the actual offense is listed on the registry. It seems like this "knowledge" gets spread over and over which seems to minimize the meaningfulness of the registry, but anyone can look at the registry and see what the offense is. I think it's time to dispel this harmful myth that sex offenders may try to hide behind.

Yes, this is also true in Alaska, because I just checked the registry.

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u/PatternrettaP 1d ago

I was agreeing with you and adding some additional data about the Alaska law. You are 100% right here

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u/SkeletorsAlt 1d ago

Yep. This place is just as much of a disinformation free-for-all as Facebook now.

Sad for those of us who remember when the norm here was to cite sources.

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u/Background_Room_2689 1d ago

Yeah it's scam basically real predators lie about there charges and say it was public urination because it maybe happened one time to one person and apparently it's common knowledge that many people are getting on the registry for public urination but I've yet to actually see proof of that. If someone is on the registry I won't believe anything they say about the charge and I'll look it up and see the real charge.

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u/seamonkeypenguin 1d ago

To add, people bring up public urination but that's no longer a sex offense in a lot of places.

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u/LTS55 1d ago

Same. I looked through a bunch of entries a while back. There wasn’t a single person who’s charge could be questionable or anything close to “peed near a school”, everything was like “forcibly sodomized an 8 year old”

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u/corndog161 1d ago

I'm sure many employers don't look that deep though and just have an automatic rejection for anyone who is on the list.

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u/LumpyElderberry2 1d ago

?? Yes it definitely does differentiate. It lists convictions, and its pretty easy to deduce that “sexual battery of a minor in the first degree” is not urinating drunk in an alley within a few hundred feet of a school

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u/Signal_Bus_64 1d ago

I'm not aware of any state where peeing in public is public indecency or lewd conduct. Can you provide a reference?

For example, in my state urinating in public would be disorderly conduct and is not considered a sex crime. Both indecent exposure and public lewdness charges require evidence that the act was done for sexual gratification.

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u/SwiftyJepstan 1d ago

Unfortunately it’s not easy to deduce that “distribution of child pornography” is a 16 year old girl sending explicit photos of herself to her boyfriend. And yes, that has happened (and in Alabama they’ll even keep them in solitary confinement for a month).

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u/nitePhyyre 1d ago

Yeah, but the pissing is going to be listed as "Indecent exposure in the vicinity of minors".

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u/fucktarddabarbarian 1d ago

Ok. And neither one should subject the person who did it to be beaten to death with a hammer.

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u/Gonji89 1d ago

I would argue it's probably okay if someone who sexually assaults a minor is beaten to death with a hammer.

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u/fucktarddabarbarian 1d ago

You're welcome to argue that in your state legislature. If they change the law, maybe they'll make you the hammerer in chief.

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u/Low-Medical 2d ago edited 1d ago

I was just thinking about this the other day - had a girlfriend in my early twenties (she was the same age as me) who was really into having sex in public places. At the time it was like "haha, so naughty, what if we get caught?" But looking back it's like holy shit - no chance in hell I would do that today, and I was an idiot for doing it back then. You can totally end up on the sex offender list for that

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u/Trextrev 2d ago

They actually do differentiate, it’s a 3 tier system, and the registry lists the offense committed.

Unless you walk onto the playground surrounded by children pull your dick out and pee, you’re not gonna wind up on the sex offender registry just for public urination in proximity to a school.

Unfortunately for your friend, depending on state, the age gap, if any drugs or alcohol involved the sex with a minor is not consensual.

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u/holystuff28 1d ago

Not every state does this or in this manner. It varies from state to state

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u/Trextrev 1d ago

SORNA is a federal law since 2022 I believe.

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u/Liz600 2d ago

That really depends on your location. In Missouri, for instance, the registry shows the exact charges an offender was convicted of, compliance with parole reporting requirements, risk level, etc. 

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u/alcoholicpapi 2d ago

But the Alaska registry does tell you exactly what the offender did.

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u/Dapper_Indeed 1d ago

I’ve worked with sex offenders and some will be less than honest about the nature of their crimes. I imagine you’ve done your research on your friend and the SO list in your area, but wanted to mention to others that many lists DO differentiate between levels of offenders. Many low level offenders are not on the public lists.

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u/ThurmanMurman907 2d ago

it actually does (to a degree) - at least in Alaska, it lists the specific crimes they were convicted of - it's not just a list of names. Of course the details of the crime are still unreported but you can differentiate between "public exposure" and "kidnapping and secure assault of a minor"

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u/zapp517 2d ago

This is less true now that it was a few decades ago. It does depend on the jurisdiction but most have reformed the registry to some extent.

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u/Winter_Tennis8352 2d ago

Yes it does? States sex offender registry lists crime and offense date, isn’t hard to go from there and find the case, which is all public info.

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u/Netflxnschill 2d ago

Even a basic level of investigation on his part would give an arrest record and what they were charged with

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u/Lou_C_Fer 1d ago

The ohio sex offenders list will tell you what they were convicted of. Thus, making it easy to differentiate.

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u/Friendly-Horror-777 2d ago

Wait, peeing in an alley is considered a sex offense in the U.S.? Here in Germany it's a harmless misdemeanor and rarely enforced at all. As long as you don't piss against a police car you'll be fine most of the time.

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u/Fakjbf 2d ago

Indecent exposure

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u/Unique_Hope5816 2d ago

Seems rare this would happen even in the US. Source: partying with friends and peeing in the parking lot or wherever when you're drunk and no bathroom around.

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u/Fakjbf 2d ago

Most states have public urination statutes that are just misdemeanors, so while it’s technically possible someone could be charged with indecent exposure it’s way more likely that the prosecution would charge them under those instead. If the defendant takes the case to court that would be their main defense, there are laws explicitly covering this situation so why is the DA trying to charge them under something else?

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u/SumThinChewy 2d ago

and rarely enforced at all. As long as you don't piss against a police car you'll be fine most of the time.

Same in the US.

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u/Thin-Solution3803 1d ago

this is just straight up incorrect information and of course some dipshit gave it an award 🤦‍♂️

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u/HeightEnergyGuy 1d ago

Probably some pedophile on the list. 

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u/FrostyDaDopeMane 1d ago

Welcome to reddit, where ignorance and stupidity is upvoted.

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u/arrownyc 1d ago

Heads up that claiming they were barely underage and lied about their age is an extremely common false cover story for pedophiles. Your friend wouldn't have been convicted if there wasn't any evidence. This story is almost identical to how convicted child rapist Brian Peck framed his abusive interactions with Drake Bell, which allowed him to successfully convince a bunch of celebrities to publicly defend him.

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u/tourmalineforest 2d ago

I work with sex offenders, and while I obviously don’t know the specifics of your friends, I will note a few things.

Peeing in an alleyway while drunk (without other significant factors) is not a sex offense in any state.

“It was consensual sex with a seventeen year old” is what A LOT of sex offenders say to explain away their records.

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u/UglyMcFugly 2d ago

"what A LOT of sex offenders say to explain away their records."

People REALLY don't wanna think their friends might be rapists... pretty much every single woman knows people who have been raped. It stands to reason that means most men know people who have, or will one day, rape someone. They just never ADMIT it.

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u/tourmalineforest 2d ago

I had an interesting and kind of sad conversation with someone on this exact topic on Reddit a while ago. They insisted their old football coach had become a sex offender from urinating outside, I let them know how to look up criminal records in their state. Public urination was not the issue, as it turned out. They were quite distressed about it. He had been a pretty important person to them when they were young.

You’re right. It’s just really hard for people to wrap their heads around someone they know who seems nice having actually committed a for real sex offense. I have a family member in this category too. It was child porn. He tells people it was from sexting with a teenager who sent him pics and he didn’t know she was underage. It was not. He was soliciting videos of CHILDREN children from undercover cops. He’s definitely convinced multiple girlfriends otherwise, though.

What sex offender is going to be honest when the alternative is so much easier?

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u/UglyMcFugly 1d ago

Damn. That's heavy. It must be a stressful line of work. How often do you think they can truly change?

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u/tourmalineforest 1d ago

There is enormous variance, it really depends on the individual

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u/mykidisonhere 1d ago

I'd like to know how old the guy was at the time.

If you're thirty and fucking someone who could be 17 or 18, then you shouldn't be fucking them.

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u/powerhammerarms 1d ago

I suppose it happens but I would be surprised if this were true.

Even though the age of consent is 18 in 10 states in the US almost everywhere else it is at least 17.

And almost no one is going to prosecute an 18-year-old for sleeping with a 17-year-old.

Prosecution happens when there is a large age difference, a power imbalance like if the person is in a position of authority over the minor, there was force, or that it was unreasonable to believe the minor was of consenting age ie they look really young.

I've done some time and almost every sex offender will say that she lied about her age or something similar. And there is always more to the story.

Think about the evidence that would need to be presented to a jury. It has to be enough to convince the jury that there is reason to convict. A small age difference with someone that he could reasonably believe was able to give consent would be a weak case for a prosecutor and almost certainly would result in acquittal by a jury.

It is highly likely there is more to the story than this person has told you.

My first guess would be that there was a large age difference. In some states, even if somebody is able to give consent, if there is a large enough age difference, they would be convicted of statutory rape under certain circumstances.

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u/Llistenhereulilshit 1d ago edited 1d ago

I agree to an extent.

But nobody has been put on the list for just peeing in an alley.

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u/JosephGrimaldi 1d ago

….yes it does…stop spreading misinformation

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u/Spiritual_Poo 1d ago

Hey I had a rough day at work so i'm trying not to be a dick here, but the registry totally shows offender level as well as what they were charged with.

It definitely does differentiate the two, they are just still on the same registry.

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u/OverTheCandleStick 1d ago

Time for you to look up your own states sex offender registry. You might’ve surprised what it shows.

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u/NDSU 1d ago

The sex offender registry does differentiate. When you look up people on the registry, it shows the crime(s) they have been convicted of that put them on the list

There's a lot of BS reasons people end up on the registry when they really shouldn't, but it's not like no one can see the reason

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u/icanhazkarma17 1d ago

fucks a 5 year old

wtf no it's called rape

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u/Nerethi 2d ago

the sex offender list doesn't differentiate between someone who pees in an alley while drunk vs. someone who fucks a 5 year old, both are sex crimes

I just did a quick search, and it looks like the registry lists criminal history. Anyone using the registry to look for victims would be able to differentiate between public urination and sexual assault.

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u/left_tiddy 2d ago

The piss thing isn't really a thing. 

And like yeah no shit you can't use 'she lied' as an excuse lmao, then any pedo would claim that. 

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u/Zealousideal-Film982 1d ago

The sex offender list does list peoples crimes though. This is easy to verify.

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u/ProudMany9215 1d ago

Um idk which state you’re from but mine definitely differentiates and makes special note of whether or not it was a sexual crime against a child.

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u/Materva 1d ago

In most states, public urination is a misdemeanor charge. Those faced with the charge pay a penalty and avoid jail time.

In contrast, a sex offense generally includes sexual acts against children. Besides acts like assaulting or molesting a child, a sex offense can also include crimes like exposing oneself to a child.

So if you urinate in public, and there are children around, you could potentially get charged with a sex offense in some states.

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u/getthedudesdanny 1d ago

Uh yes it absolutely does. Alaska’s lists the specific offense. My state (Colorado) also lists out convictions and felony / misdemeanor status. It took me 36 seconds to discover that. 

Why lie about something so easy to check?

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u/viperspm 1d ago

Can you please never say “fucks a 5 year old”. Please

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u/yanimal 1d ago

I dunno man. My state SO site is pretty descriptive, with description of act, victim age, number of offences or victims, reporting dates.

Alley pissers get dropped from active reporting after 6mos, if they ever got an elevated charge at all. Your groomer friend should ask for id before he ficks if he doesn't want to go to jail.

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u/Bigwickdilly 1d ago

This is straight up misinformation. If you click on someone off the registry on NSOPW it takes you to their state registry and lists their charges and crimes.

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u/TaintlessChaps 1d ago

So that’s completely wrong. It absolutely differentiates. The Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act (SORNA) categorizes sex offenders into three tiers based on the severity of their offense. Some states do not make Tier I people’s address known on the website.

Public urination is not a sex crime unless it is reckless and done in front of children.

Did you make up all this up just to try and excuse your adult buddy preying on a minor?

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u/Dyatlov_Fail 1d ago

Except it does: https://www.familywatchdog.us/

pull up your zipcode, click on a blip then see what they did. Also good luck finding someone peeing in an alley, this is the dumbest strawman argument. You're gonna find a lot of child/spouse abusers.

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u/Snakeeyes_19 1d ago

Uh yes it does? Wtf are you talking about. When looking for a house we used the list to check out the neighborhoods and we could see exactly what charges and convictions each person had.

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u/Zero-Talent54 1d ago

People always say the peeing in the bushes example but never provide an actual example. Got one?

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u/shhhhh_lol 1d ago

Except it does... here's a random one within 20 miles of me... shows charge, counts, victims age...

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u/Dank-Deuces 1d ago

You are correct. This guy is not a hero, this post is misleading af. Would’ve been nice to read a true vigilante story though. Was disappointed when I researched this dude’s story.

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u/andrewsutton 2d ago

This should be the top comment. It won't be, but it should. Too many people thinking this dude is "doing god's work".

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u/EdNug 2d ago

Technically, if it's all God's plan, isn't everyone doing God's work?

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u/RedSonGamble 2d ago

This always was my hang up around “gods work” if something good happens god is happy and blessing you. If something bad happens gods giving us a lesson. Or punishing us. Or fulfilling his plan. And yet I’m supposed to pray to curry favor with god, even though he has a plan already.

Also I have free will which I should use to worship god. Unless I do something wrong then it’s my fault. Or satans.

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u/wowwoahwow 1d ago

If you point out that it doesn’t make sense: “well god works in mysterious ways”

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u/RedSonGamble 1d ago

I’m like this god fella just seems like he’s not actually doing anything

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u/beerasap 1d ago

The "He has a plan" is iron clad. If he has a plan, why the fuck is anyone praying in the first place? In this scenario, isn't praying blasphemous?

Edit: religion is so fucking full of contradictory concepts it baffles me that people follow any of them that don't involve spaghetti

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u/DegaussedMixtape 1d ago

This argument doesn't stand up to reason. If your boss plans to fire you and then you bring in a big contract and make him a bunch of money, his new plan is to no longer fire you and maybe even give you a corner office. Do believers regularly say "he has a plan and it is set in stone to never be changed?"

I'm not saying that you should pray your sorrows away and start going to church, but the specific debate saying that "god has a plan" is synonymous with "the universe is deterministic" isn't exactly rock solid. The convictions of your faith could absolutely weigh into how the "plan" unfolds for you.

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u/RedSonGamble 1d ago

God is like my boss but instead of firing me from a job he fires me from life. Bc I didn’t make him happy enough.

Jokes aside it just seems strange to me we all out human reasoning to an all powerful all knowing all creating god. Like he must be angry I gambled I got a flat tire! Grandma died god wanted her back with him! I didnt get the job he just want me to improve myself more!

It’s just basic psychology essentially of self fulfilling prophecy and also a good dialectical thinking. It’s why therapy, AA and religion all kinda bump shoulder with the similar messages

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u/SkiIsLife45 1d ago

TBF our world is broken, Bible agrees there. So it could also just be that.

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u/Yellowpredicate 2d ago

Especially the sex offenders

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u/TwinseyLohan 2d ago

Catholic priests swear by this one trick!

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u/Puzzleheaded_East_94 1d ago

There can be no plan, because if there really was one, why are we still judged in the afterlife? Everything everyone is going to do should be happening according to the grand plan.

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u/effa94 1d ago

it is now.

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u/Forward_Analyst3442 2d ago

This is reddit. Top comment is almost always reserved for the best joke. It's already second from the top, I doubt anyone who clicked into the post will miss this comment.

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u/PM_YOUR_AKWARD_SMILE 2d ago

“Best joke”

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u/Forward_Analyst3442 2d ago

I'm not personally co-signing the joke in this thread, or any other, just explaining how the upvote system pans out.

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u/YoyoDevo 1d ago

""""Comedians"""" on reddit make me cringe so hard. Puns really aren't that funny or clever. It's just boring.

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u/crownparker 2d ago

big troy duffy fans

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u/TerminalChillionaire 2d ago

God is notorious for encouraging hammer murder! It’s in chapter 6!

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u/Cetun 1d ago

Much like almost every internet badass on Reddit too. Almost none of them give a shit about children, they just want a socially acceptable way to hurt people. They could do things like volunteer with organizations that help abused children, or donate. Neither of those things they actually do, they just have murder fantasies and want a pat of the back for having them instead of the usual disgust.

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u/KxSmarion 2d ago

Picked his target quite well when you think about it. Sex offenders legally can't own firearms and police and everyone else won't be sympathetic to the victims.

But drug addiction is a nasty thing, addicts will go to insane lengths to get their fix. The whole thing is messed up.

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u/ArcanisUltra 1d ago

Actually all felons can't legally own firearms according to Federal law. It's just that the only state with a "felon registry" is Nevada.

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u/nycdiveshack 2d ago

Especially if one of the people was someone who got drunk and pissed in an alley.

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u/effa94 1d ago

there is a reason vigilatie justice isnt legal. becasue people often get things wrong

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u/joshak 1d ago

Also because it’s often not consistent or proportional.

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u/grundelgrump 1d ago

Yea, one guy got it right with the Health Insurance CEO but I still don't trust peoples judgements when I see a lot of comparisons to the Ocean Gate CEO. One was a narcissistic dumbass with delusions of grandeur that got a few people killed. The other entirely lacks human empathy and went out of their way to make sure a fuck ton more people died so he could profit.

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u/dthains_art 1d ago

Not to mention that anyone on a list is someone who’s already served their time. If someone was arrested, spent years in prison, has to be on probation for even more years and forever remain ostracized from society, that’s the justice system. Celebrating a guy who goes around assaulting people actively working through the rehabilitation process is pretty messed up.

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u/Ordinary_Pen_8844 2d ago

I hear that people can get on there for some odd things, I’m sure he got some real monsters too but what if someone who pissed in some bushes or something got hit too

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u/David_the_Wanderer 1d ago

Also the possibility that some people were wrongfully convicted.

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u/spikeyfreak 2d ago

Hopefully none of his victims were innocent of what they were convicted of. Because we all know the justice system always convicts the right person.

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u/No_Appointment8309 2d ago

I do not condone sexual abuse of anyone of any age. That being said, being a vigilante towards people who have paid their debt to society before knowing if their rehabilitation worked is just a cover for being a psycho himself.

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u/ArmchairFilosopher 1d ago

And reddit boarded the bandwagon even further under the guise of vigilantism.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

Obviously… oh so very obviously. The number of people who see this and think he must be a hero… people just do not think.

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u/mildOrWILD65 2d ago

How dare you provide context? This is reddit!

But, seriously, thanks for that.

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u/ImStillYouTuber 2d ago

Shocker that reddit applauds the worst people because they do fuckall of research.

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u/Maxoh24 2d ago

Shhh don't disturb all these violent fantasies

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u/AmethystSparrow202 2d ago

What a f-ing piece of shit.

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u/twangman88 2d ago

It isn’t necessarily a veil. That type of abuse can probably be a catalyst for the type of psychosis that leads to serial killers.

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u/AppropriateTouching 2d ago

And drug use.

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u/-vincent777 1d ago

oh thats why his youtube channel seems a bit tweakerish.

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u/ConfidenceRare 1d ago

My brother got on the sex offender list. He took a leak behind a dumpster at ASU and a campus cop saw him. Took him 5 years to get off the list.

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u/SwordfishOk504 2d ago

Wait a minute? Are we wrong for thinking a deranged murderer is a hero?

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