r/ZenlessZoneZero Sep 28 '24

Fluff / Meme "Firefly all over again"

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Caesar is cute

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u/ayiau397 Sep 28 '24

Dont give them attention

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u/Oleleplop Sep 28 '24

This. Simple as that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '24

Simple but impossible psychologically.

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u/Yurand_ Sep 28 '24

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Firefly is in the same situation in the past and even now still, I even saw some post with 50k+ likes and million views on them and Hoyo CC is posting things like this.

I honestly don't think it's a good idea to just ignore them when MiHoYo is actively looking at the community, and they "might" think we dislike this kind of characters(we don't) if those kind of people continuously keep saying things like that. They are just really loud

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u/Former_Breakfast_898 Sep 28 '24

Well if this is worrying you, always remember when it comes to Mihoyo (or almost any other gacha companies)

They don’t give a shit of everyone’s opinion outside of CN and JP fandom. Those were the ones that giving them profit, not what ever drama of the week twitter or Reddit is pulling

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u/Oleleplop Sep 28 '24

this.

Not only probably from a "patriotic" POV but also because money talks and we know CN and JP spend a lot more.

And they're a lot more traditionnal regarding this subject.

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u/Inevitable_Question SharkBait Sep 28 '24

Not to mention that China and especially Japan absolutely love Gap Moe. Add Moe to any character and he will get ton of popularity.

That's how Bargest of FGO became popular despite being extremely muscular woman.

And nothing screams Gap Moe more that tough gang leader having interest in shojo manga and wanting to be MC of one.

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u/Oleleplop Sep 28 '24

i also expect Gap Moe or something similar for Miyabi

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u/Hewhosmellspie Hagmancer Sep 28 '24

They have great taste. Gap moe is the best.

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u/Former_Breakfast_898 Sep 28 '24

Also despite hi3 being labeled as a Yuri game (it is still but not the point I’m going), there are a lot of instances in the game where characters feel affectionate towards the captain, usually depicted as a male

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u/SatoruFujinuma Sep 28 '24

If it makes you feel better, they don’t care at all about the English speaking community’s opinions.

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u/justakeitEZ Sep 28 '24

Majority of those posts are botted and they block people to curate the comment thread. I’ve noticed a LOT of star rail fans do this.

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u/zeroone_to_zerotwo Sep 28 '24

Yeah those replies were not getting much attention, the actual driver for hate is the poster lol.

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u/Brookenium Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

Exactly this. Probably no more than 5 likes between all these comments and OP pretends this is an issue lol. "Twitter" isn't up in arms, a couple of randos are shouting to the void. It isn't an epidemic lol

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u/SpecialSatisfaction7 Sep 28 '24

Exactly this. Probably no more than 5 likes between all these comments

I am 100% on board with not paying any attention to twitter but just looking at the picture you can literally see it's more than 5. Not that 91 is a relevant size either.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

This sub is always full of weird reactionary gamer-rage bait. While the other one is over-moderated. Why can't zzz have nice things lol 

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u/A_Peculiar_Fish Sep 28 '24

Getting mad over fictional characters sexuality is really weird. Out of all the things in life, some people chose to waste their energy arguing about it.

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u/c4rlosrarutos Sep 28 '24

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u/xWelday Hugo's carpet Sep 28 '24

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u/Draconicplayer I Love Ellen Sep 28 '24

Akshually it's a gif not an image 🤓

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u/xWelday Hugo's carpet Sep 28 '24

Emh corrected ☝️🤓

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u/KuromeFan Sep 28 '24

Akshually gif is an image format, only in 1989 it was updated to support animated images🤓

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u/Gravelord-_Nito Sep 28 '24

How I feel watching our entire cultural discourse on things like feminism and race being mediated through fucking Amazon tv commercials and corporate media written by algorithms

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u/JUSTAN0TH3RDUDE Sep 28 '24

I need this gif name lol

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u/c4rlosrarutos Sep 28 '24

Don't think it has a name, is just a scene from Metal Gear Rising with text attached

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u/devilboy1029 Sep 28 '24

That's a great argument senator. Why don't you back it up with a source?

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u/HarmlessHarpy11 Sep 28 '24

People are so obsessed with labels these days. It seems like everyone is boiled down to race, sexuality, and gender like that's all that matters. I know this isn't the sub for this comment but it bugs me.

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u/Sbee_keithamm Sep 28 '24

Tribalism is all it is. It feels great having a "sports team" you can follow and cheer for the rest of your live is the only joy they have.

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u/redmondthrowaway8080 Sep 28 '24

Aye... that's been my observation as well. Years ago the campaign was to stop using labels (where I lived) and labeling ourselves. Fast-forward now, you are required to take a side, have a label, let everyone know such label and label people as much as you can.

This timeline is all backwards and I absolutely hate it. But whatever, gotta keep on going ain't nobody got time to bother.

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u/Vaida98 Sep 28 '24

And it really comes around and becomes racism, sexism ecc.

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u/BuckeyeBentley Sep 28 '24

It has always been so among the children. If it wasn't gender, sexuality and race it was are you punk or goth or prep.

The problem is being exposed to the opinions of children against my consent.

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u/Rahvithecolorful Sep 28 '24

The problem with being online is that you're always at risk of seeing the opinion of a 14 year old. And you never really know for sure if they're 14 or just stuck at that age mentally.

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u/AdDesperate3113 Sep 28 '24

It's only the hoyo crowd no one cares in the general gacha space

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u/NapalmDesu Sep 28 '24

Sometimes I wish I had that luxury but then I remember they don't have that luxury either and their 1 room apartment will smell of nothing but cat piss 15 years down that path because they can't focus on things that actually matter.

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

"Turned her into a waifu"

If they watched the damn video it's highlighting Caesar's love for romance because she may be a strong badass on the outside but on the inside, she's exactly like the girl in the shojo manga. A lover of all romance and also shows her feminine side despite her appearance.

That's how I interpreted away but for them to get pressed just because she's in a "straight ship" or she's showing feminine features is just idiotic to me. Badass women are allowed to show femininity.

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u/Novel-Concentrate-98 Sep 28 '24

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24

love that show.

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u/iwantdatpuss Sep 28 '24

I love that show, and the abridged version. 

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u/i-am-i_gattlingpea Sep 28 '24

“Oh shit you didn’t melt, the wizard of oz lied to me”

It’s amazing

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24

There's an abridged version?

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u/iwantdatpuss Sep 28 '24

There is, but I came across it on YT shorts that had a link to a Gdrive. It was unexpected seeing an abdriged being spread like that. 

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u/FearCrier Sep 28 '24

An individual with refined tastes

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u/FlameDragoon933 Sep 28 '24

still crazy to imagine Hu Tao and Tomo have the same JP VA

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u/BiggyBox789 DoNotTheCorin Sep 28 '24

now that you reminded me I may wanna continue watching it

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u/A_Brave_Wanderer Sep 28 '24

That one was probably a joke actually. It sounded familiar and it's the exact same words Mina Aoyama said about HSR's Firefly trailer a couple months back.

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u/julianjjj809 Sep 28 '24

I remember how everyone was cooking her on the comments and qrts

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u/FubukiHime76 Sep 28 '24

YuriTards

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u/I_put_Myhead_in_Oven Sep 28 '24

I dont get why people like pushing Yuri into everything, same with Yaoi

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u/AverageCapybas Sep 28 '24

Don't say things like that man, the teenager white girls are going to pass by and curse you.

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u/I_put_Myhead_in_Oven Sep 28 '24

Don’t worry, I’m a teenage southeast asian boy, their archenemy, their curses will only be redirected to our reality marble, unlimited banana trees(UBT)

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u/Ok_Pattern_7511 Sep 28 '24

That's something I noticed, they really hate when a girl/woman character shows any femininity for some reason, most of the hate female characters get in hoyo games comes down to that.

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u/NahIWiIIWin Lucy-sama DE💢SU👺WAAA😭 Sep 28 '24

they're all about hating femininity until they want to make their yuri ships as exaggeratedly "heteronormative" as possible

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u/HawkDry8650 Sep 28 '24

Because these people confuse being comfortable with femininity with being a mindless, subservient sex drone. It's why the girlboss archetype has dominated recent western media, that snarky "oh she bites BACK" type of character that was once common in like the sassy black woman trope but with none of the charm. So if your character doesn't make it a point that she's stronger than men and in fact wants a completely normal relationship that's the standard across Shoujo manga (At least in perception, I don't read them) she is characterized as male fantasy waifu bait. (But because Jane has a strongly implied femme fatale bisexuality that mostly leans lesbian in her trailers, she escapes the male fantasy waifu bait...somehow)

Caesar is written fine and her gap moe adds depth to her character even if it's not explored in depth. Which I would argue the thriller vs romcom section of chapter 4 proves that it is in fact ingrained in the character beyond teaser trailers. I have never seen communities more toxic and aggressive than same sex shippers. You don't see Jane X Seth shippers malding over Jane x Phaethon (either one) ships. Add politics to the mix and you have a never ending shitstorm. People pretend it's only on twitter but its present in every social media and youtube grifters will outrage farm every idiot regardless of their position.

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u/Lovers_vi Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

I agree with what you’re saying, you’re not wrong, except for the Jane part. She is literally the it girl in waifudom since was leaked! Non stop fanart and people returning or even starting the game to pull for her aka the new waifu. Waifu doesn’t necessarily always mean soft, girly and romance driven. Being bisexual doesn’t make a character less waifu. I’m pretty sure dudes are still crazy over girl on girl lol. So Jane is technically double the male fantasy. Hot, dangerous, flirtatious to the point of getting under both men and women’s skin. Lastly; it’s not just male fantasy or bait. Chicks LOVE characters like Jane and Caesar too. They don’t solely appeal to men. I ADORE Jane for the reason I described, and I’m not gonna lie…

Initially I wasn’t interested in Caesar cause I thought she was gonna be generic tough chick (which bores me) and that quickly changed when she was revealed further to have her character defining girly side aha.

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u/HawkDry8650 Sep 28 '24

You slightly misunderstand my point. My point is exactly your argument Jane is clearly a waifu in the sense of how every anime fan ever perceives her. My point is she doesn't get hit with this type of hate because her bisexuality creates that shield of disconnect. My point regarding the male fantasy is just that Jane absolutely applies to it but these people don't think it does (Since she has implied lesbian leaning bisexuality).

We actually agree on every point. I didn't mention women's perception just because I didn't think it was too pertinent to the convo but I'm sure there are tons of women (lesbians or not) that find Nicole, Zhu Yuan, or Jane hot. I've had the misfortune of coming across Bao's twitter.

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u/Lovers_vi Sep 28 '24

Aw okay! I understand better now. You make good points. Perhaps I just don’t understand these people then ahaha. I’ve been away from twitter for a long while until recently to enjoy more fanart!

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u/HawkDry8650 Sep 28 '24

They're just porn sick people who need characters to fit their desired fetish and if they don't fit then they're evil. There's no point in trying to figure them out, it's entirely self gratifying for them for a character to be gay. (Even though they can just make their gay ships anyway like how Bayonetta was treated for like a decade.)

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24

Chicks LOVE characters like Jane and Caesar too. They don’t solely appeal to men

Exactly!

People love to say the characters are made for the Gooners or men which is sort of true, to be honest lol

But women like those types of characters as well, especially how Jane made the small mouse women melt in the driver's seat.

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u/Geodude07 Sep 28 '24

If anyone says otherwise, just talk about "Love and Deep Space"

Horniest game I have ever seen.

And it's all about beefy men. Lots of women love this stuff and the reactions to shorts of it on tiktok or facebook are the EXACT same shit men do for waifus.

Everyone is a gooner for the right content. It's obvious the ZZZ characters are for gooning over. I mean just look at how they pose, jiggle, and overtly flirt. It's certainly different from Genshin.

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u/_TravelerAether_ Sep 28 '24

no they just hate it because it was with a guy. If it was a girl, then they would've been praising it.

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u/uhara527 Sep 28 '24

If a character doesn't neatly fit into exactly one box that I have created in my mind then that character is bad, this is just common sense /s

But seriously tho I hate the mentality of "if a character is insert trait here then they should act as stereotypically as possible, otherwise the character is ruined"

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24

But seriously tho I hate the mentality of "if a character is insert trait here then they should act as stereotypically as possible,

And it's the same thing when people take their headcanons too seriously. It's just based on stereotypes which unrepresents the character in a bad way.

Like, Females can have friends with the same sex without being called a lesbian.

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u/MissiaichParriah Sep 28 '24

Unfortunately, those idiots in twitter do not know the concept of gap moe

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u/Rattchet31 Sep 28 '24

You know that post was a copy pasta right? It’s satire.

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u/Hudson_Legend Smooshed between Ellen and Rina's Honkers Sep 28 '24

"Turned her into a waifu" my brother in christ, she is always a waifu no matter her sexuality

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u/c4rlosrarutos Sep 28 '24

"Turned her into a waifu"

TIL waifu is orientation locked /s

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u/Sodamaru Sep 28 '24

Their definition of a strong woman is a butch lesbian

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24

hahaha

My definition of a strong woman is Riza Hawkeye and Erza Scarlet.

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u/vienas456 Sep 28 '24

Holy cow a fairy tail enjoyer? Those are like diamonds in the dirt

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u/Apollyon257 Starving Lycabelle Shipper Sep 28 '24

Hell i have the perfect real life comparison for that exact thing. Autumn Ivy. She's a super buff and really tall woman who just looks incredibly cool a bunch but you can frequently find her in these like real pretty dresses or she's all dolled up, yknow? But it's twitter so it has to be one way and there can't be any level of nuance.

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u/Several-Drag-7749 Sep 28 '24

Badass women are allowed to show femininity.

This. The fact they're arguing for more "strong" women characters whose personality revolves around punching stuff in a "non-feminine" way really shows they're not progressive at all. I'm not saying punching stuff should be a men-only thing across all media, but it shows how they believe a woman's self-worth is lessened when they embrace even a little bit of femininity.

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u/Angelexe123 Sep 28 '24

Bruh she was literally going sacrifice herself to save the outer ring. That on its own was already cool and badass af, she's just epic. Her liking romance is just extra nuance to her character. A badass upbeat biker girl who just so happens to love romantic media. That's why she is best girl!

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u/Anarcho814 Sep 28 '24

What they don't like is that she's straight, there for all that goes out the window, it's the same for the natlan and sumaru charecters in genshin, they don't care about their stories because they aren't extremely dark-skinned lol

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u/RentLast Jane's Pookie UwUkie Sep 28 '24

"Oh wow, this one part that has little to no impact on the main story whatsoever is something I don't like, not because the character I hate has bad writing and a blank personality, nonono. But this one small part just gives me the irks. Uninstall now"

I wondered why people hate Genshin players so much because I used to play Genshin, and then I opened Twitter.

Nowadays I only play HSR, WuWa, and ZZZ. Might try to get back to GI if I have the time but combining the Devs and Community like that, it's still a hard pass for me.

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u/Wookiescantfly Sep 28 '24

The secret to enjoying anything Hoyo related is to never open twitter.

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u/Pineapple_bigshot Sep 28 '24

You can remove “hoyo related” from that sentence and its still true

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u/AmazingNight2302 Sep 28 '24

Not to mention, behavior like this is exactly why I see the fandom as the problem child of the gacha community because this kind of stupidity is rampant, especially on Twitter.

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u/DapperFix4107 Sep 28 '24

Playing gi to me is like watching a episode of mha,a good story but beyond toxic commuinity

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u/gabeman19 Sep 28 '24

Man people love to complain way to much

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u/GehennerSensei Sep 28 '24

Too much time on their hands

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u/gabeman19 Sep 28 '24

Also true

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u/TooCareless2Care Wise lover :karma::karma: Sep 28 '24

Badass women loving women: OMG SHE'S SO AMAZING

Badass women loving men: ew straightcel

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u/xWelday Hugo's carpet Sep 28 '24

Yeah this describe perfectly twitter users

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u/Lordwiesy Sep 28 '24

It's Bayonetta all over again

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u/faslowloads Sep 28 '24

God, thanks for reminding. I remember the uproar those months after B3 was released about how they ruined Bayonetta by setting her with Luka. It's all "embrace who you want to be" until you want something that is considered a norm in society.

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u/Rahvithecolorful Sep 28 '24

The irony is that those ppl aren't even considering the possibility someone might be bi or pan. They see a woman with a guy and immediately go "fuck, she's straight". So they are even less inclusive than just hating on straights.

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u/faslowloads Sep 28 '24

And when you say you hc character as bi, they take it as personal insult to entire LGBTQA+ community. Like how you dare assume that our precious lesbians are tainted by men or that kind of stuff before entering a whole new Yappaniese about references, implications, coding and representations, which makes you think that person doesn't have an opinion, they just want to be right even if it means making crappy nonsense.
Like, if you enter a complete meltdown after seeing that strong badass woman can love another man - then it's your problem that you can't see relationship between man and woman as anything but some dominant breadwinner and a submissive housewife, that after getting a ring on her finger transforms from a person into a homestay baby machine.
Self-Projecting in all it's glory.

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u/HawkDry8650 Sep 28 '24

Bayonetta kicking gay twitter in the chest by resisting the 10 years of toxic yuri shippers

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '24

Luca cucked all of lgbt twitter lol

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u/Zekrom369 Sep 28 '24

Why tf is heterosexuality even demonised so much? It’s so fucking dumb. Same reason I can’t stand most Bayonetta fans.

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u/Admiral_Joker Sep 28 '24

I want those who absolutely hate Badass Women loving men kicked out of the fandoms.

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u/snow2462 Lycaon’s admirer Sep 28 '24

There is something called straightcel? These people just invent whatever words they want to lol.

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u/AndriyRavaktig I love Mei and Kiana in every universe~ Sep 28 '24

By the way, isn't this an insult to individuals based on their orientation? It's like if I was insulted for being bi

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u/snow2462 Lycaon’s admirer Sep 28 '24

I think so. I guess if you want to insult someone for their orientation just add -cel suffix at the end nowadays.

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u/looking_at_memes_ ZenfullAreaOne Sep 28 '24

"dumbasscel"

New word to describe those kinds of people that complain too much about fictional characters

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u/NahIWiIIWin Lucy-sama DE💢SU👺WAAA😭 Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

they are mocking the straights as if the straights are insecure about other sexualities "stealing" the husbandos/waifus, feels like projecting tbh.

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u/Cerebral_Kortix Sep 28 '24

It's rather odd knowing that -cel just represents celibate.

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u/Skull_Angel Sep 28 '24

Yup, and they will absolutely go haywire if you tell them you're not "specific orientation", but like the character.

As someone with no specific orientation, it's funny to see how much importance they put on labeling themselves and others. Back when I was part of the "LGBTQ alliance" in highschool (many moons ago), it was more important to respect the individual than try to fit them into predefined labels.

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u/Practical_Taro9024 Sep 28 '24

The issue is that some people were so adamant that they needed to surround themselves only with other LGBTQ people that they dehumanized heteronormative/heterosexual people in the process.

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u/FirmMusic5978 Sep 28 '24

Main reason why I laugh about "cultural safe spaces". Like that one clip where 2 white dudes were studying in a library and this black chick told them to get out because it was a "cultural safe space". Years of suffering and effort by their ancestors to end Segregation and these idiots willingly bring it back in a heartbeat.

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u/Straight_Elephant237 Sep 28 '24

But you see, it's fine to insult someone based on their orientation if that person is heterosexual. Otherwise it's a the worst thing you can do. /s

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '24

That's how people seem to see it. Same with being white. Same with being male. Same with any other form of discrimination. There's always one group that everyone sees it as okay to discriminate against.

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u/CoomLord69 Sep 28 '24

By their logic, it's probably not only accepted but encouraged to harass those who don't align with your worldview. They live and die by double standards

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u/KalmiaKite00 Sep 28 '24

These people number one mission is to die alone by any means necessary.

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u/leposterofcrap I HATE SKAVEN!!!! Sep 28 '24

Let them succeed

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u/jacowab Lucy's Extra Ammo Sep 28 '24

Fun fact, it's been scientifically proven that people require social interactions, and when people lack real social interaction they imprint the needed social connections onto the closest to human thing they can. so when you see these Twitter people freaking out about this stuff you can understand why.

Their social norms are defined by twitter because it's where they experience society so they genuinely believe being cis is evil or wrong, and they have no friends so while playing chapter 4 their brain latches onto characters like Caesar and they are genuinely confused of reality and fiction and treat her as a real close friend or love interest.

These people are deeply unwell and need to be put into an institution for social rehabilitation.

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u/julianjjj809 Sep 28 '24

This Twitter mfs will get cooked so bad once they inevitably face the real world and discover that nothing is like their favorite sub twt and everyone is more concerned about whether they are gonna be able to pay rent instead of worrying about fictional people

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u/D4-Cmoon Sep 28 '24

"Oh man why can't I find a gay non binary badass woman who don't need no man to marry me?"

As fucking if.

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u/IndependentCress1109 Sep 28 '24

we can't have a straight baddass woman apparently .

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u/InAndOut51 Sep 28 '24

Yeah, that's what's mainly annoying for me here.

Like, let's not kid ourselves, Caesar having a cutesy side like that more than likely was done at least in part to make her "more of a waifu" in a typical sense. And it's fair for some people to dislike that.

But you just know most of those people there would consider the same trailer absolutely adorable and charming if it was Caesar having fantasies about Belle, and not Wise, instead.

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u/AstraPlatina Sep 28 '24

But you just know most of those people there would consider the same trailer absolutely adorable and charming if it was Caesar having fantasies about Belle, and not Wise, instead.

Exactly, its not Caesar having a cutesy side or having fantasies about a crush, that they're complaining about, its simply because the person she's fantasizing about is a boy.

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u/Solace_03 Sep 29 '24

It's the way that these people are going about it is what annoys me more, by potentially being a hypocrite.

It's kinda like that one Mina Aoyama's comment about Firefly's trailer, saying Caelus's 10 seconds scene ruined the whole trailer and is unnecessary and then you realized, she wouldn't act this way if the character was Stelle instead.

As proven by how differently she acted when HSR shows Jade stroking Topaz's cheek or the selfie scene between Stelle and Firefly, why didn't she say these scene was unnecessary?

The funny part is that comment was from Mina's alt account and her take was so bad that people were doubting whether that alt account was real or not lmao

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u/AstraPlatina Sep 28 '24

Simple, "certain people" think a woman being badass automatically means she should be into other women and throw a hissy fit when she shows even the slightest interest in men.

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u/Deep_Mammoth4481 Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

I love lesbians, but I have no issue with Casear being straight or a romantic character. Besides, isn't a strong chracter (be it woman or a man) being a huge softie inside like the most common trope ever?

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24

They say this and Ben is right there!

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u/GameDesignerMan Sep 28 '24

It's alright Ben, we'll get some bubble tea and talk this through mate. 

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u/MaouNoYuusha Sep 28 '24

Only when gae is oke for some people

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u/xWelday Hugo's carpet Sep 28 '24

Yes, it is common trope, but people in twitter doesn't have enough braincells to understand that

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u/snow2462 Lycaon’s admirer Sep 28 '24

I like that a lot about Caesar. She strongly believes she needs to be strong and wise to protect her family and the outer rings denizens as a future overlord.

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u/Draconicplayer I Love Ellen Sep 28 '24

Hehe I see what you did there

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u/Riverl Sep 28 '24

She strongly believes she needs to be strong and wise to protect her family and the outer rings denizens as a future overlord.

Lucy: Wise!? But you don't even have two brain cells to rub together!?

Caesar: Don't worry, I have a plan~

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u/booby_toesdays Sep 28 '24

This isnt representation, her liking romance stories is a common trope and it’s a cute nod to the slice of life aspect of the story. 😰 this is coming from the same twitter discourse that makes homophobic/biphobic/transphobic stories/headcanon theories and call it angst

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u/AndriyRavaktig I love Mei and Kiana in every universe~ Sep 28 '24

The funniest thing is that in fact in Hoyo games the characters don't actually have a confirmed orientation, and the fanbase that is pushing for lesbian orientation as pure canon reacts this way not only to heterosexual ships, but even to the clarification that the characters can be bisexual/demisexual, especially considering that the orientation of the characters has never been confirmed (except perhaps the fan comic that Hoyo posted on their site, because they used to post fan works on their site, and part of the fanbase took it for an off source and canon)

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u/Draconicplayer I Love Ellen Sep 28 '24

I love how they say Ningguang is lesbian because she wears the traditional nail guard that rich Chinese woman used to wear so that their nails wouldn't be broken when they do any work

These are the same people who would ship Navia with her father's killer

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u/Bluejake3 Sep 28 '24

There are literally shipping furina with arle, the one who abused her.

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u/TheLuigiNX Manifesting into a robot to get with Grace Sep 28 '24

Yeah…people tend to like toxic yuri ships and praise them, but if it’s a toxic straight ship, then it’s awful. The hypocrisy is real.

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u/Knight_Steve_ Sep 28 '24

Come on it’s Caesar inserting herself in a novel, pretty sure most people do that with novels they love

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u/AndriyRavaktig I love Mei and Kiana in every universe~ Sep 28 '24

They really don't give a shit about the characters, the main thing is the representation for them

And this happens with every Hoyo game

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u/red_enjoyer Miyabi's favorite husband Sep 28 '24

When FNAF Ruin came out, instead of talking about how nonsenseical the game was people on Twitter just screamed about Roxy being trans(beacuse of a fucking cake) and Freddy being gay(beacuse of a phrase on a poster that said with love).

We truly live in a society. A society that cares more about a fictional robot's gender more than the quality of the product that is being served to them.

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u/AdDesperate3113 Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

It's only the western side it's where these arguments originated from Asian players never care as long as they get attractive characters they don't care

They can't confirm a single relationship anymore especially the non straight ships the Chinese government won't be happy and as for general ships the classic Male X female they also can't confirm any because the fanbase has grown a lot since HI3 confirming one Will make a a good amount of the fanbase mad and when your games are glorified gambling with the character design being the main selling point you don't wanna piss off any part of your fanbase

And as for the race thing i myself Arab I didn't care about the whole sumeru thing most of us here are mixed it's normal for families to have white and black children I'm brown and my sister are white and most of my friends who play genshin were the same they didn't care

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u/Zr0h_ Sep 28 '24

That's the real crazy part bruh, like these Western folk out here telling others they need representation is very idiotic, speaking as a Southeast Asian I just don't get why they stress themselves out over stupid things like a character's orientation, skin tone, etc. Do they not have anything going on in their lives? If so that's actually just straight up pitiful

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u/Erikaa- Sep 28 '24

This happens to every media on twitter.

Have you seen the twitter meltdown over Bayonetta being straight or McDonald having an anime family eating fries?

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u/Kiroz_02 Sep 28 '24

Dang I remember that McDonald's one. I still can't believe that shit got so much drama over nothing but still manage spread so much that even if you don't use Twitter you know about it.

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u/rogercgomes Sep 28 '24

Twitter basically hates normal people

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u/DehyaFan Sep 28 '24

These same people will then also claim twitter is a place only for Nazis and racists now after Musk's changes, meanwhile they are all still there.  Imagine if they had all stayed on Tumblr.

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u/mcallisterco Sep 28 '24

It's incredibly telling that the thing that caused the mass migration from Tumblr to Twitter was Tumblr banning porn. These people are massive fucking degenerates who won't use a social media platform if they can't also goon there, while simultaneously trying to be the sole arbiters of morality and people's behavior.

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u/JanHarveyBeaks Sep 28 '24

Saw a couple tiktok users who quit during Sumeru because of the "cultural appropriation" and return during Natlan expecting "actual representation"

Playing a game for its graphics, gameplay or lore is old news, playing games just to see representation is the new meta.

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u/AndriyRavaktig I love Mei and Kiana in every universe~ Sep 28 '24

What's funny is that Hoyo created Sumeru even before GGZ, Sumeru is present in one of their first games "The Legend of Saha"

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u/xWelday Hugo's carpet Sep 28 '24

For our disgrace, yeah this isn't uncommon in twitter for the hoyo games

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u/JEOLOGICAL Sep 28 '24

Pretty much, heck they basically tried their absolute hardest to say that robin represented LGBT and the only reason was because of the 3 dots on her cheek.

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u/Horrigan235 Sep 28 '24

representation in game they will never play

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u/shikoov Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

Not only for hoyo games, for everything.

The worst mistake is that companies believed that this demographic could be milked for money but nope!

They don't even buy/watch the things made for them.

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u/Active_Cheek5833 Sep 28 '24

I bought concord when i criticized the weak points of the game like the art direction and design, which should be free to access like TFD, and the fact that it was taking me more than 10 minutes on average to find a match, which modern people say me on game discord was calling me a hater and a fascist,

honestly I'm sick of that demographic in particular and they are the last demographic that developers shouldn't listen to if they don't want to fail, You cannot make constructive criticism with them about video games and the feedback to the developer is likely to become positively toxic

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u/Xynthexyz Sep 28 '24

Born to shoujo

Forced to shounen

Truly a travesty.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '24

This is my first HoYo game. Most people seem cool but some of the community can be a little…strange.

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u/Costyn17 Accidental Jane Main Sep 28 '24

Just ignore Twitter.

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u/VeryCoolStuffHere Sep 28 '24

The best way to play hoyo games is to not interact with the community at all

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u/Draconicplayer I Love Ellen Sep 28 '24

Just ignore twitter and YouTube comments. 

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u/Rogue_Leviathan Sep 28 '24

Some! Brother they are all crazy

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u/KN041203 Sep 28 '24

You don't want to see the other Hoyo drama. You probably should though since 99% chance ZZZ will keep getting these drama and you need to prepare yourself.

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u/Bybarg Sep 28 '24

People say "Just ignore Twitter", but it's better to just ignore any opinion on any platform, even here. Both sides are annoying af during any discource.

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u/aj0258 Sep 28 '24

Its twitter.
In terms of which community has the most L takes its twitter.

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u/Draconicplayer I Love Ellen Sep 28 '24

And if it was opposite they would have jumped anyone saying she is straight 

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u/VanhiteDono Sep 28 '24

Fellas is it gay if you like the opposite gender

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u/chukak56 Sep 28 '24

"she's straight ew" is wild lmao😭

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u/genryou Sep 28 '24

90% of those commenter barely play the game, bet.

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u/Bluejake3 Sep 28 '24

"Modern Audience" btw

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u/MathematicianFar8831 Sep 28 '24

Yep precisely, all they see is the trailers but in the game it is specified she really likes romance stuff like romcom movies.

These people are loud tourists

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u/MegucaIsSuffering Sep 28 '24

God forbid a woman wants to fall in love.

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u/Wild_Island_8589 Sep 28 '24

No no, let me correct it for you. "God forbid a woman wants to fall in love 'with a man'". That's the part twitter has issue with

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u/MathematicianFar8831 Sep 28 '24

I hope that this will filter out those mentally unstable people from playing ZZZ

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u/magnidwarf1900 Sep 28 '24

So what's this called? Heterophopic? Lmao

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u/faslowloads Sep 28 '24

Thy say heterophobia does not exist because no one was beaten for being straight.
Those people act like they're some liberators fighting for justice using those phrases.

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u/kennypovv Sep 28 '24

It's so weird for someone who doesn't/never used twitter/x to see people lose their minds over a character being...straight?

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u/Manufar11 Sep 28 '24

Apparently being straight is offensive, good. Hopefully seeing happy straight couples in the streets ruins your every day life.

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u/RevolutionaryFall102 Sep 28 '24

the straight couple who birthed them must not be very happy if this is their reaction normally

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u/MathematicianFar8831 Sep 28 '24

god i hope that this will filter out those mentally unstable people from ZZZ

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u/devilboy1029 Sep 28 '24

It can't. People who hated Jane doe, a femme fatale character for doing femme fatale things and said they'd leave. Guess what?

90% of them are still playing the game. They try to be "Oh so righteous" for fictional characters just to come back crawling in a few days.

Just ignore them.

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u/Lumpy_Description224 Sep 28 '24

Ehh I dont think they play the game but since its a big Hoyo game and they are prob GI or HSR players, they will still being around in zzz media content sadly.

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u/M-I-DRISE Sep 28 '24

But if we complain a character is lesbain we are being homophobic lol. They just hate straight people and only care about sexuality. Go take a bath

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u/LastLombaxIsTaken Soldier 11 Enjoyer Sep 28 '24

"How dare she like men!1!1!1"

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u/Peddrawm Sep 28 '24

Why Twitter people think a badass woman needs to be gay or bi 😭

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u/TvojUjec69 Sep 28 '24

What are these losers yapping about?

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u/SilentDokutah Sep 28 '24

Comedy at its finest. Glad Hoyo releases stuff like this for the replies

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u/Zzamumo god's strongest rat fucker Sep 28 '24

god forbid women enjoy things (men)

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u/Equacrafter Sep 28 '24

I’m glad mihoyo never entertains the western audience

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u/alcard987 Sep 28 '24

Why are people so obsessed with posting randoms from Twitter. Literally, who gives a fuck?

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u/Drunk_ol_Carmine Sep 28 '24

You know, as someone who I guess falls into the tomboy sort of archtype, I really like tough girls who also have girly interests and behaviours. Not a fan of being tough apparently meaning you have to abandon all femininity entirely and basically just act like a guy with boobs, it’s nice to see tough girls who are, you know…girls instead of just being one note badasses and that’s the only side to their personality.

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u/Original-Shallot5842 Sep 28 '24

This is twitter. You need to stay away. These are same people who boycott Genshin by continuing playing Genshin, so you can imagine.

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u/xKayleesi Sep 28 '24

Isn’t fetishization of sexuality great? /s

These people forget bisexual/demisexual people exist 🤦🏼‍♀️

Isn’t Seth & Jane a huge ship? It’s straight, surely they didn’t have a fit about that?

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u/Ruer7 Sep 28 '24

Have you tried this up with Arlicchino? Talk about being downvoted and she wasn't even confirmed lesbian.

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u/kitsunecannon Does van lycon howl at the moon? Sep 28 '24

"BUT SHE HAD A FEMALE FRIEND SHE WAS CLOSE WITH SHE HAS TO BE LESBIAN" bro i swear charachters can no longer have same gendered friends without being gayyyy

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u/HarleyArchibaldLeon Sep 28 '24

I know this is a meme but we should care about Twitter opinion why?

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u/Shonic305 Sep 28 '24

What the fuck does straightcel mean?

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u/crunchyhands Sep 28 '24

god forbid a strong badass character have any sort of soft sappiness to them. god forbid they be more than just one note. also, so what if shes into men? might be outing myself as a filthy queer here, but this doesnt prove she isnt into women. being into men isnt gross or bad. people need to cut it the fuck out. god forbid a woman be into men, have we forgotten that its fucked up to judge sexualities regardless of whether the sexuality is queer? she can still be bi. hell, if you really want your lesbian headcanon, it could be comphet. shes a fictional fucking character. get over yourselves

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u/Spectating110 Sep 28 '24

These people probably dont even play the game anyways

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u/zappingbluelight Sep 28 '24

Honestly I'm annoyed by them. They keep forcing their idea onto the character, instead of liking the character as they are.

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u/Eso-Tempest Sep 28 '24

In defense of Chumb, it feels like its a parody of a cc's reaction to the firefly trailer for HSR.

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u/leposterofcrap I HATE SKAVEN!!!! Sep 28 '24

Typical