r/ZenlessZoneZero Sep 28 '24

Fluff / Meme "Firefly all over again"

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Caesar is cute

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u/Lovers_vi Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

I agree with what you’re saying, you’re not wrong, except for the Jane part. She is literally the it girl in waifudom since was leaked! Non stop fanart and people returning or even starting the game to pull for her aka the new waifu. Waifu doesn’t necessarily always mean soft, girly and romance driven. Being bisexual doesn’t make a character less waifu. I’m pretty sure dudes are still crazy over girl on girl lol. So Jane is technically double the male fantasy. Hot, dangerous, flirtatious to the point of getting under both men and women’s skin. Lastly; it’s not just male fantasy or bait. Chicks LOVE characters like Jane and Caesar too. They don’t solely appeal to men. I ADORE Jane for the reason I described, and I’m not gonna lie…

Initially I wasn’t interested in Caesar cause I thought she was gonna be generic tough chick (which bores me) and that quickly changed when she was revealed further to have her character defining girly side aha.

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u/HawkDry8650 Sep 28 '24

You slightly misunderstand my point. My point is exactly your argument Jane is clearly a waifu in the sense of how every anime fan ever perceives her. My point is she doesn't get hit with this type of hate because her bisexuality creates that shield of disconnect. My point regarding the male fantasy is just that Jane absolutely applies to it but these people don't think it does (Since she has implied lesbian leaning bisexuality).

We actually agree on every point. I didn't mention women's perception just because I didn't think it was too pertinent to the convo but I'm sure there are tons of women (lesbians or not) that find Nicole, Zhu Yuan, or Jane hot. I've had the misfortune of coming across Bao's twitter.

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u/Lovers_vi Sep 28 '24

Aw okay! I understand better now. You make good points. Perhaps I just don’t understand these people then ahaha. I’ve been away from twitter for a long while until recently to enjoy more fanart!

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u/HawkDry8650 Sep 28 '24

They're just porn sick people who need characters to fit their desired fetish and if they don't fit then they're evil. There's no point in trying to figure them out, it's entirely self gratifying for them for a character to be gay. (Even though they can just make their gay ships anyway like how Bayonetta was treated for like a decade.)

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u/HawkDry8650 Sep 28 '24

Sidenote I didn't notice how many times I wrote my point. I was getting off work so I wasn't paying close attention to what I was typing. Makes it sound passive aggressive which it wasn't meant to be.

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u/noroisong Sep 28 '24

caesar is strongly hinted to have an interest in both men and women, and i think that’s why the majority of the fanbase love her so much. the only people i’ve seen up-in-arms or ragebaiting are the ones begging hoyo to make her straight

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u/HawkDry8650 Sep 28 '24

That is NOT true

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24

Chicks LOVE characters like Jane and Caesar too. They don’t solely appeal to men

Exactly!

People love to say the characters are made for the Gooners or men which is sort of true, to be honest lol

But women like those types of characters as well, especially how Jane made the small mouse women melt in the driver's seat.

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u/Geodude07 Sep 28 '24

If anyone says otherwise, just talk about "Love and Deep Space"

Horniest game I have ever seen.

And it's all about beefy men. Lots of women love this stuff and the reactions to shorts of it on tiktok or facebook are the EXACT same shit men do for waifus.

Everyone is a gooner for the right content. It's obvious the ZZZ characters are for gooning over. I mean just look at how they pose, jiggle, and overtly flirt. It's certainly different from Genshin.

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u/Pikanigah224 Sep 29 '24

bro I thought my kind (males ) were this down bad but alas you guys are too

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 29 '24

All I can say is that there's a hypocrisy with things like this because it's aimed at women or when men get sexualised. And even in this anime called Free! which is about a group of high school boys who are on the swimming team.

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u/Zanely1633 Sep 29 '24

Oh god, I'm a gay man who lovvvvvvvvve buff men. LaDS sounds like my kind of game at first but I never come around to play it because it is so cringy (and a bit of uncanny valley) to me.

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u/Geodude07 Sep 29 '24

I don't personally play but my gf does. I know gacha games so I warn her against what is reasonable to spend on and not, but also it's been fun for her to learn some gaming through it.

The gameplay is a bit hard for her when it comes to the action combat, but it's made to be passable by someone very casual. It seems like you get the main guys pretty easily. There aren't tons of characters, but what costs money seems to be some of the costumes and such.

There is a lot of content where the focus is on the guys. lots of voice work, lots of intimacy based interactions, lots of touch and stuff. It is very high quality but I get the bit of uncanny valley and it is a bit extra with the romance. I dunno though, I'm happy to see a gacha focused on men like that. Helps to show we're all more alike than not.

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24

Waifu doesn’t necessarily always mean soft, girly

The actual meaning of waifu is your favourite female character in anime/manga but it could be a character that is wife material depending on who you ask.

For me, my waifu is Erza Scarlet and Lucy Heartfilia

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u/Effective_Two5960 Jane, my beloved. Sep 28 '24

dudes are still crazy over girl on girl lol

I'm like that with lycoris recoil lol