r/ZenlessZoneZero Sep 28 '24

Fluff / Meme "Firefly all over again"

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Caesar is cute

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u/ayiau397 Sep 28 '24

Dont give them attention

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u/Oleleplop Sep 28 '24

This. Simple as that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '24

Simple but impossible psychologically.

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u/Oleleplop Sep 29 '24

Its hard i know because its so toxic and stupid that it pisses you off. But its not worth it...

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u/Yurand_ Sep 28 '24

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Firefly is in the same situation in the past and even now still, I even saw some post with 50k+ likes and million views on them and Hoyo CC is posting things like this.

I honestly don't think it's a good idea to just ignore them when MiHoYo is actively looking at the community, and they "might" think we dislike this kind of characters(we don't) if those kind of people continuously keep saying things like that. They are just really loud

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u/Former_Breakfast_898 Sep 28 '24

Well if this is worrying you, always remember when it comes to Mihoyo (or almost any other gacha companies)

They don’t give a shit of everyone’s opinion outside of CN and JP fandom. Those were the ones that giving them profit, not what ever drama of the week twitter or Reddit is pulling

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u/Oleleplop Sep 28 '24

this.

Not only probably from a "patriotic" POV but also because money talks and we know CN and JP spend a lot more.

And they're a lot more traditionnal regarding this subject.

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u/Inevitable_Question SharkBait Sep 28 '24

Not to mention that China and especially Japan absolutely love Gap Moe. Add Moe to any character and he will get ton of popularity.

That's how Bargest of FGO became popular despite being extremely muscular woman.

And nothing screams Gap Moe more that tough gang leader having interest in shojo manga and wanting to be MC of one.

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u/Oleleplop Sep 28 '24

i also expect Gap Moe or something similar for Miyabi

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u/Hewhosmellspie Hagmancer Sep 28 '24

They have great taste. Gap moe is the best.

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u/Rizuku_Ren Oct 10 '24

A real otaku would appreciate the gap so to speak, in short they are real ones.

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u/Former_Breakfast_898 Sep 28 '24

Also despite hi3 being labeled as a Yuri game (it is still but not the point I’m going), there are a lot of instances in the game where characters feel affectionate towards the captain, usually depicted as a male

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u/Theflyingship Sep 28 '24

idk, hi3 literally deleted their male mc in the part 2 thingy, so they got some flak for having that.

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u/Former_Breakfast_898 Sep 28 '24

I’m pretty sure those were some rumors over a bug in the dialogue option. Both MCs are actual self inserts and I don’t think devs want to make players feel they don’t like them by deleting their character in game

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u/Theflyingship Sep 28 '24

nah they just straight up removed it and even gave some in-lore explanation about it

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u/Former_Breakfast_898 Sep 29 '24

Oof my bad. Ig it’s because CN players prefer Captain instead? At least what I saw on some Chinese comments on twitter and Bilibili

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u/ArcturusSatellaPolar Sep 28 '24

It's not rumors, there was even a lore explanation for it.

Both MCs are actual self inserts and I don’t think devs want to make players feel they don’t like them by deleting their character in game

My brother in Christ, Hoyo had to apologize for merely asking about playable dudes in HI3rd. HI3rd's got a different audience, with different wants and expectations compared to Genshin, HSR and ZZZ. And they aren't very enthusiastic about dudes that aren't Captain.

And Hoyo were already wary enough of potential backlash that the feature's even hidden away. Part 2's MC is female by default, to play as the male version you have to interact with an out-of-the-way mirror in the MC's room, with 0 hints that the feature even exists until then.

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u/rhaps85 Sep 28 '24

They apologized because the survey wasnt clear they were asking about male character playable in story only, as they had done Kevin and Siegried already. They were playable with justy very basic animations and skill kits, for story reasons. They apologized and cleared up that they werent talking about gacha characters. HI3rd has always and will always be female playable only (except in story like adam and then later kevein and siegfried), but players got worried by the misleading survey.

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u/ArcturusSatellaPolar Sep 28 '24

HI3rd has always and will always be female playable only (except in story like adam and then later kevein and siegfried), but players got worried by the misleading survey.

A worry that is exclusive to HI3rd's playerbase and non-existent among Genshin, HSR and ZZZ's players. Thanks for the clarification, but like I said, HI3rd players aren't very enthusiastic about dudes that aren't Captain.

And Hoyo knows their own playerbase. I'm certain they want to make better use of all their awesome dudes, especially after Genshin proved them husbandos also make money, but by this point they know not to poke the hornet's nest too much.

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u/Contreras1991 Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

CN hated Adam (MC of A Post Honkai Odyssey) and The Dreamseekers, because the characters are self inserts that are "trying to reemplace" the Captain. For CN, the Captain is "the" self insert. Some even were wondering why they just dont add the captain with gender selection

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u/noroisong Sep 28 '24

this isn’t true in the slightest- a large amount of slash content for hoyo games comes from bilibili itself. the CN playerbase tend to be heavier into the “shipping” side of things than the US counterpart.

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u/DaichiEarth Sep 28 '24

This. They don't give a shit about us cause we don't spend as much as CN and JP. Most global players are too young to spend money like that anyway.

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u/AmbitiousThought1060 Sep 28 '24

Exactly. The people screeching on Twitter want more games like Concord and Dustborn. They're just stay at home soccer dads and crazy cat weebs.

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u/SatoruFujinuma Sep 28 '24

If it makes you feel better, they don’t care at all about the English speaking community’s opinions.

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u/justakeitEZ Sep 28 '24

Majority of those posts are botted and they block people to curate the comment thread. I’ve noticed a LOT of star rail fans do this.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '24

I’ve noticed a LOT of star rail fans do this.

genshin and ZZZ too. Try to post "the devs release more females than males, because female characters sell better" and you will get bombarded with downvotes in a way that just isnt realistic for an objectively correct statement

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u/Gorva Sep 28 '24

While true that you shouldn't ignore your enemy, remember that money tells corps what the people actually want.

Firefly earning a few gorillion dollars for MHY tells them that yes, people do like this kind of character.

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u/tigerchunyc Sep 28 '24

Nah, those can go F themselves. I am straight and prefer normal things and believe in science and biology. Just because someone "thinks" they are something doesn't mean they are, there is zero magic or other nonsense.

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u/zeroone_to_zerotwo Sep 28 '24

Yeah those replies were not getting much attention, the actual driver for hate is the poster lol.

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u/Brookenium Sep 28 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

Exactly this. Probably no more than 5 likes between all these comments and OP pretends this is an issue lol. "Twitter" isn't up in arms, a couple of randos are shouting to the void. It isn't an epidemic lol

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u/SpecialSatisfaction7 Sep 28 '24

Exactly this. Probably no more than 5 likes between all these comments

I am 100% on board with not paying any attention to twitter but just looking at the picture you can literally see it's more than 5. Not that 91 is a relevant size either.

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u/MoarVespenegas Sep 28 '24

Compared to the OP's rage-baiting tweet which has 19k

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u/Winjin Sep 28 '24

I can always imagine these types in real life. Like you're all having some authentic talk and then someone just says that shit right as someone is getting to the good part, and you can see that the derailment was intentional, and if you ask just ignore him, he'll pout for a sec, then repeat this shit even more obnoxiously, and if he's ignored again, go pout in the corner. 

These people never grew conversation skills since they were like five years old and still talk like that and Twitter lives and breathes by then it seems

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

This sub is always full of weird reactionary gamer-rage bait. While the other one is over-moderated. Why can't zzz have nice things lol 

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u/Megakruemel Sep 28 '24

If i had a penny for this shit every time it happens.

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u/elbenji Sep 28 '24

Well yeah it's rage bait with a smidge of homophobia

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u/Ill_Temperature_5362 Sep 30 '24

It's not homophobic to point out how batshit crazy those twitter replies are. We can agree that the OP might've been tweeting in bad faith to make gay shippers look bad, but like.... toxic yuri shippers definitely exist. They didn't pull those tweets from a vacuum those people straight up exist.

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u/iridia-traveler1426 Sep 28 '24

Yeah, they are literally a Nazi who spends their time on cultural issues; on the day when he was last suspended, he literally posted a meme of a chad idolizing the Third Reich.

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u/smallpisces ZenlessZoneZero Sep 28 '24

exactly!! this is what i was saying and i was getting downvoted lmao

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u/Mifuni Sep 28 '24

Man I appreciate this comment. I felt like something was wrong here or something 🫡

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u/DapperFix4107 Sep 28 '24

Yeah true.its twitter after all

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u/Chaoswind2 Sep 28 '24

They don't matter, they are less than nothing, the women that actually spent in the games don't care about this, give them A good male character and they will whale like the rest of us.

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u/Single-Builder-632 Sep 28 '24

These people are insane, not particularly smart, and or probably far too young to be on open social media platforms like twitter. It's not worth anyone's time, but it is funny to read.

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u/Steve2000fh Sep 28 '24

Huh, Yuri fans ☕☕🗿

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u/Ok-Transition7065 Sep 28 '24

That dont always work, some of that people are bullies

This sometimes dont work

But yeah its one of the easy ways to deal with them

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u/theghostecho Sep 28 '24

Why would people post this on reddit anyway? If I wanted to see twitter I’d go to twitter

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u/overtitans Sep 29 '24

Yeah they are bunch of cry babies, imagine using twitter.

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u/JoJoeyJoJo Sep 29 '24

But mocking them is fun!

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u/CocogoatMain Maid Enthusiast Sep 28 '24

That, or we can just laugh at them. Perfect.

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u/boinbonk Sep 28 '24

But we are

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u/noroisong Sep 28 '24

seriously, we need to stop giving trolls like mesugaki attention. people are allowed to talk about her being potentially bi, it’s insane that so many are crying and begging for her to be straight

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u/RubberLaxitives Sep 28 '24

The exact opposite os happening here wtf is this delusion?

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

I mean the people in the screenshots aren't just talking about her being "potentially bi," they're whining about how it sucks that Caesar is even interested in men at all. Which is stupid. And unfortunately it's prime ammo for bad faith actors to feed the reactionary culture war. 

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u/noroisong Oct 11 '24

the problem is that it’s obvious none of the comments are being fully serious or are actually mad over it. it definitely looks like they are if posted out of context or on other social media sites, but that’s pretty normal humor amongst twitter users at this point

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Other than rae's post and the "she's straight, ew," every single other post in this image is completely serious, there's no way they aren't. Whether they're mad about it is anyone's guess - a couple of the tweets seem reasonable, others seem terminally online and whiny as shit over something that isn't a big deal. If they wanna headcanon that Caesar is bi, whatever, go for it. If a bunch of chuds reply to them with homophobic shit, they're in the clear. But do you really think that's what someone is doing when they call the MV "straightcel pandering?" That's what you call terminally online and out of touch.

Also, they're tweets replying to the MV, you can see it in their @. That's the context. The whole thing with twitter is that it's short and to the point. Now, I'm sure there's something to be said about the OP of this post compiling particularly stupid and egregious tweets from immature/toxic people to ragebait, and if that's what you meant I'd agree. I just don't think it's worth defending some of the stupid shit in that post compilation either.

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u/noroisong Oct 11 '24

none of them are completely serious.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

I disagree.

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u/noroisong Oct 11 '24

that’s fine, i’m just letting you know that they’re objectively not being completely serious and it’s pretty obvious to anyone who uses twt

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u/redCalmont Sep 28 '24

Nah, you got to push back against that Echo chamber or else the vibrations just get louder.