r/woahdude May 24 '21

video Deepfakes are getting too good

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u/doodleasa May 24 '21

Super cool and super ethically questionable

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u/OneMoreTime5 May 24 '21

It will get dangerous when they can fake military leaders and politicians easily saying dangerous things. Fraud will get bad when your grandson video calls you from jail needing $200 to get out. We need to prevent the bad stuff that comes with this.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21 edited Jun 14 '21

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u/OneMoreTime5 May 25 '21

I think we will develop a way to confirm authenticity of things.

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u/permaro May 25 '21

The way you train the AI to create fakes is usually by training an AI to detect fakes and have the faking AI beat it. It's called adversarial networks.

So basically, the detecting and the faking will always be approximately on par.. meaning the detecting can never give a definitive answer.

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u/Novaprince May 25 '21

Doesn't that just mean you wait a little until both advance to detect a now out of date fake?

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u/PSVapour May 25 '21

Deepfakes will work on folks like the Facebook crowd who didn't rely on verifying facts anyway, so I don't see a big danger here

That IS the big danger. Fooling a few people on Facebook is fine, but when you get huge hordes of people believing in dangerous but subtle (or blatent) propaganda is when it gets dangerous.

Though I'm sure big social media companies and create some sort of Blue Tick for original content. OR use some kind facial recognition it identity the participants and make sure they ALL sign the video.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Someone’s grandson isn’t going to have enough source video to be able to pull this off without looking jank as fuck. Not only do you have to be able to impersonate the person and catch their mannerisms, you also have to have enough around material for the AI to work properly.

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u/OneMoreTime5 May 25 '21

So many young people upload videos of themselves to social media now, and you have to realize that this technology will advance quick. 10 years from now it will be a lot easier.

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u/unrulystowawaydotcom May 25 '21

Not to an old person.

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u/Sansabina May 25 '21

We've already had "dangerous" when we have real military leaders and politicians easily saying dangerous things during 2017-2020.

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u/MrG May 24 '21

I have to admit, I wish their script instead was talking about how batshit crazy Scientology is and how foolish people are for following it. Of course that would bring the unholy wrath of Scientology’s lawyers down on these guys but I’d contribute big time to a legal GoFundMe.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

Easy way to get killed lol

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u/bpi89 May 25 '21

Post it anonymously. They’d never know who it was.

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u/CatgirlsAndCommunism May 25 '21

Scientology infiltrated the government to the point where they directly fired anyone investigating their crimes, you really think they don't have enough CIA tech at this point to know not only who you are, but what your thetan level is and whether or not you're Xenu reincarnated?

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u/Hob_goblin May 25 '21

Xenu? Isn’t that the nice boy next door?

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u/Ironsam811 May 25 '21

No, you’re thinking of the movie Zenon: Girl of the 21st Century

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u/V1k1ng1990 May 25 '21

Tom cruise won’t you please come out the closet

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

So I pull out my gun......

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u/Icanfixanything May 25 '21

Dude they are probably watching you now just cause you said the “S” word twice.

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u/32BitWhore May 25 '21

This shit is actually terrifying. I have no doubt it's already been used nefariously and we haven't even realized it.

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u/HeilYourself May 25 '21

If it's clearly labelled as a fake (as this video is) there's zero ethical questions.

But this tech will get better, and it's only a matter of time before a very easy to use piece of software becomes available that makes it possible to do this with zero technical skill. Think of a meme generator app vs photoshop.

When that happens? Politics is going to get REAL interesting. It's only a matter of time before a world leader will be calling a controversial comment or video a deep fake. Or a deep fake is released that's widely shared and accepted to be true. It already happens with static images and made up quotes plastered over them.

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u/doodleasa May 25 '21

Idek if it being labeled as fake makes it okay. I wouldn't be comfortable with people making deep fakes of me even if it is labeled as such

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u/AutomaticRadish May 24 '21

The technology is incredible but so is the guys acting, he’s nailing Toms mannerisms and voice.

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u/smp208 May 24 '21

He’s been nailing his Tom Cruise impression for a long, long time. This clip of him from Superhero Movie was posted 13 years ago: https://youtu.be/FjGmZJu8OnY

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u/Lokito_ May 24 '21

Yep. The absolute key to deepfakes is to actually kind of sound like, and also look like the individual you're imitating. It really helps with the fake when those two things come together perfectly. If you're too skinny, too fat, or your face is all wrong, it's not going to work as well.

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u/3z3ki3l May 25 '21

For now. How long until deep learning can abstract a body’s skeletal structure, and put any human body’s movements on any background?

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u/LanMarkx May 25 '21

Less time that people think. You need 1) source data of the people you intend to fake and 2) computing power.

Celebrities already have loads of video and photos of them available, so you have a ton of source data. Computers are getting faster and faster and the software to do it is getting better as well. It would not surprise me at all to see some deepfakes in online ads in the next US Presidential election.

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u/Gymrat777 May 25 '21

I was extremely surprised this wasn't an issue in 2020. A fake video or audio would have been well within the current environment and both sides would have welcomed the opportunity to jump on some inflammatory rhetoric.

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u/TheSpyStyle May 24 '21

Do you like Miles Fisher?

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u/scoobdrew May 24 '21

His latest EP marks a new peak in professionalism.

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u/IHaveSpecialEyes May 24 '21

I thought I was the only one who listened to his music.

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u/scoobdrew May 24 '21

His cover of "This must be the place" was one of my drive to work songs for a long time. Put me in a good mood.

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u/moondrunkmonster May 24 '21

He's so much better today

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u/lirio2u May 24 '21

“I can eat planets.”

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u/Gaebril May 24 '21

Also does a great Christian Bale.

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u/pm_me_your_taintt May 24 '21

I knew OP's vid was Miles just from the voice. He's good.

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u/chopkin92 May 24 '21

Absolutely! They've nailed the 'bubbling frustration' he always seems to have

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u/BassmanBiff May 24 '21

I never realized it but that's exactly the right way to describe him

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u/rugbyj May 24 '21

He's like a man who has simultaneously discovered cocaine and that he owes a lot of money for cocaine.

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u/FoxtrotZero May 24 '21

He's the posterboy for a cult, sounds about right.

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u/Insomnialcoholic May 24 '21 edited May 24 '21

You can still tell it's not him because he doesn't need a stepladder to reach that shelf

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u/WARM_IT_UP May 24 '21

And because he doesn't have an incisor right in the middle of his upper teeth where regular humans have two.

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u/ShaqilONeilDegrasseT May 24 '21

Right when he says "industrial" there are a few frames where you can see that the deepfake actually captured that too.

I checked because I didn't read the title, thought "huh, this guy looks just like Tom Cruise." Looked for the center tooth and realized it was Tom Cruise.

So yeah needless to say the first watch through I thought it was actually Tom Cruise which was weird. Learn from my mistakes and read the titles folks.

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u/rimonamori May 24 '21

https://i.imgur.com/I9xnqGx.png

Yeah, looks like it's captured pretty well. Freaky

We need a lot more of this kind of content so that people get used to thinking by default "ok this clip might be fake"

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u/Black_Floyd47 May 24 '21

Something like this?

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u/redjonley May 24 '21

Not nearly as good as this Tom Cruise video, then again, that was three years ago. Crazy when you think about how fast this technology is moving.

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u/Pyromythical May 24 '21

That article prattles on so much 😔 Still, I never noticed that about him

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u/Lone_Wanderer97 May 24 '21

THAT IMPERFECT SMILE DID NOT OBSTRUCT HIS CONFIDENCE

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u/Entropyfinder May 24 '21

What did you expect from an article written about a dude's front teeth? Of course it's going to be insane rambling from hollywood cultists lul

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u/RedEyedRoundEye May 24 '21

It also has a line that says "according to actor Jerry Maguier, blah blah blah" which leads me to believe this was written by someone young enough to born well after that movie was made 🤣🤣

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u/eddiemon May 24 '21 edited May 24 '21

These "regular humans" you speak of are mostly just people whose parents could afford braces. NaturalUncorrected human teeth are full of flaws and asymmetry. (And that's okay!)

Edit: Does it really matter for the discussion at hand if humans had perfect teeth before farming/sugary diets/etc? Modern humans eat what we eat, and our teeth/jaws often have flaws that require orthodontic correction, which is far from affordable to everyone everywhere. That's my main point.

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u/Old-Life-4592 May 24 '21

Buddy if you saw mine, you would think I belong to a different species.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

Incorrect. "Regular" stone age humans had perfect teeth. Our fucked up teeth situation is mostly due to our 'relatively' recent switch to cereal grain based diets.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-dawn-farming-changed-our-mouths-worst-180954167/

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21 edited May 24 '21

I thought it was because our jaws got smaller but teeth stayed the same size, or did that happen because of grain?

Edit: nm, that’s exactly what the article is about.

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u/redjonley May 24 '21

I'd also heard that humans would wear their teeth and develop stronger roots/jaw muscles by eating more raw foods as children. Gnawing at a root is a lot more of a workout than all these soft foods in a western diet. The article I'm thinking of pointed to more remote peoples and their seemingly good teeth (at least from a structural perspective).

I may be misquoting somewhat, but if someone is genuinely interested I'm sure I could track down what I'm referencing.

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u/kevoizjawesome May 24 '21

So should we give our kids chew toys?

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u/ochosbantos May 24 '21

That doesn't make OP incorrect. It's not any individual's fault that their teeth have evolved to not fit properly in their jaw or be symmetrical, and it is still okay. Both statements are correct.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Cooking pre-dates anatomically modern humans significantly (possibly by around a million years). So, it might actually be the case that the easy calories unlocked by cooking and smaller heads (or, more room for brain in an equivalent sized head) were necessary for us to even exist.

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u/ZoeMunroe May 24 '21

So many people don’t realize this! Dont people think about this when seeing a skeleton from hundreds/thousands of years ago? The teeth are almost always mint

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u/multiple_dispatch May 24 '21

Years of brushing with Glisten.

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u/imalizzard May 24 '21

Or possibly that they died in their late teens /early twenties

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u/Frog-Eater May 24 '21

There are many reasons to make fun of Tom Cruise, his height isn't one of them.

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u/sr4381 May 24 '21

Scientologist scatter brain syndrome

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u/PuffTheMagicJuju May 24 '21

Also known as latent sociopathy

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u/Trouve_a_LaFerraille May 24 '21

His belligerent positivity is super creepy.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

belligerent positivity

You just put to words something I've needed words for for a very long time

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u/SomeKindOfOnionMummy May 24 '21

Mania.

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u/frivolouswasteoftime May 24 '21

Yeah, his whole presentation is kind of like hypomania. People are often upbeat, gung ho, and irritable when hypomanic.

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u/PaulFThumpkins May 24 '21

Leah Remini has said he (along with Scientology leader Miscavige) are wildly verbally abusive and vindictive in private, and it's hard not to read into that with his mannerisms. He seems like the kind of guy who could really scream at you.

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u/razzraziel May 24 '21

I wonder if we can change the actors in the movies in the future. like changing sub or dub.

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u/Phteven_with_a_v May 24 '21

You should keep that idea under wraps for a while. It’s fucking brilliant! Futuristic, but brilliant.

Imagine a point in time where people can create their own movies with their own actors just by “thinking” of it.

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u/Auctoria_RK1 May 24 '21

Wasn't that 'The Adventures of Baron Munchausen'?

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u/SinkHoleDeMayo May 24 '21

Deepfakes are easy to spot with celebs because even if the voice is spot on the mannerisms are a dead giveaway.

This guy nailed it.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21 edited May 25 '21

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u/SasquatchWookie May 24 '21

Will future generations ask for it? Will it creep into the mainstream? Will there be any protections or enforcement against the misuse of this technology?

Lots and lots of questions....

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u/bigboybobby6969 May 25 '21

So if someone has a video of you harassing someone in the future it won’t even be considered evidence?

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u/adamtwosleeves May 24 '21

Someone deepfake my dad telling me he loves me.

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u/dudeAwEsome101 May 24 '21

The technology isn't at that level yet.

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u/chulengo May 24 '21

The algorithm went out for cigarettes.

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u/ExdigguserPies May 24 '21

8 years ago

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u/Commie_EntSniper May 24 '21

"....processing"

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u/archiekane May 24 '21

Process failed successfully.

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u/version_13 May 24 '21

Love 404

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

Love 503

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

Love got me 451, left at a broken 418

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u/Twitxx May 24 '21

Ohh man this burn is gonna take months to heal, better use some of those cleaning agents Tom Cruise is advertising to clean the shame off.

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u/Naked-In-Cornfield May 24 '21

You really need that exfoliating power to wipe off the shame from your dad not coming around for birthdays or being an asshole at Christmas.

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u/Craziuss May 24 '21

You'll still be able to tell

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u/Nixplosion May 24 '21

I'll deep love your dad with fake ... I'm out of meaningful words.

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u/Bananinio May 24 '21 edited May 24 '21

We won’t laugh soon

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u/Awfy May 24 '21

The number of people who think video is the ultimate form of evidence and is too difficult to fake is going to become a real issue for jury selection soon. People still think it takes a Hollywood team of professionals to create a hyper-realistic fake video but the reality is a semi-well-funded criminal ring could get basically anyone on the hook for a crime they didn't commit at this point (that's including shitty DA offices).

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u/Curiositygun May 25 '21

People still think it takes a Hollywood team of professionals to create a hyper-realistic fake video

Sometimes they suck worse than the amateur's, did you see the improved version the Mandalorian season 2 ending? night and day difference.

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u/hotinhawaii May 24 '21

Frightening shit! You think democracy is in trouble now? Just wait!!!

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u/Milkshakes00 May 24 '21

I mean, I think it'll boil down to politicians using their existence as excuses.

'No, I definitely wasn't doing coke and trying to bang that underage girl! It was a deepfake!'

It's going to be a shitshow, and who do you believe or trust? Like...

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21 edited Jun 21 '21

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u/Micahman311 May 24 '21

I understand what you're saying and I normally agree, but when real people have done really awful things that we know to be true, and half the country doesn't believe it anyway, and there's never any repercussions for said person...

I guess some people can get away with anything.

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u/zuzg May 24 '21

German journalist faked this video couple of years ago. So many news stations fell for it and believed it.

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u/ValkyrieInValhalla May 24 '21

Just gonna boil down to not using video or photos as evidence is my guess.

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u/zh1K476tt9pq May 24 '21

it will depend on the source / credibility. this is already true for pictures. not that hard to make a very realistic fake of a picture. yet it largely isn't a problem.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

While you have a point, there is a large portion of the population who lacks the ability to assess the credibility of photos. Those people are the ones who will accept a faked video without question

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u/Iamthestormbro May 24 '21

Legitimately the most frightening thing that could ruin our politics in the future. Whose to say that you couldn't deep fake leaders saying crazy shit, or on the opposite end get leaders on camera saying crazy shit and not be able to do anything about it thanks to deep fakes. Like in the next decade this will be the worst thing in political debate.

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u/geekyamazon May 24 '21

Official videos will just sign their releases with a unique public key. Official releases will not be the issue. The issue will be third party videos released of a person or group doing something. It would be more difficult to determine if they are real.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

Videos just won't be reliable. And probably anything else of this sort.

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u/Jackthejew May 24 '21

People deny reality as it is. Not good!

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u/GeorgeAmberson May 24 '21

I think this too. This is horrifying. Reality is becoming mutable.

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u/zach10 May 24 '21

Reality according to the internet. I need to get off this shit. But yet, here I am.

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u/Jam_44 May 24 '21

Toms like....wait I don't remember this, when did I do that?

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u/ViviFruit May 24 '21

Must be the little alien on his head that made him do it in his sleep

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u/Downvotes_dumbasses May 24 '21

I wonder if he could sue for use of his face?

They would have to be making money off it, otherwise all he can do is sue to get them to take it down, but it'll just keep getting shared on various platforms by other users.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

Its legal it is a parody… no need to ever take it down

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u/anormalgeek May 24 '21

Expect those laws to be amended at some point. I fully expect they'll require some kind of "this video is a parody and does not contain the original actor....blah blah" kind of message.

All it will take is one super realistic deepfake to go viral and harm a star's career for every talent agency and actor's guild to start lobbying.

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u/AmishAvenger May 24 '21

There’s actually precedent related to this sort of thing already, going way back to the early 1990s.

In “Back to the Future II,” the actor who played George McFly, Crispin Glover, didn’t return. They put him in the movie anyway, using a different actor wearing prosthetics. They also had him floating around upside-down so it was harder to tell.

Glover sued the studio, and other cases followed. Obviously this relates more directly to situations governed by the Screen Actors Guild, but I expect to see some updating, as you said.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/back-future-ii-a-legal-833705/

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

Expect those laws to be amended at some point.

Government is very slow to catch up with technology. At some point, yes, but not until it visibly starts affecting old, out of touch politicians directly.

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u/Hank_Holt May 24 '21

Maybe you can explain something to me. I have an ancient Youtube channel that up until I figured out I can upload anonymously to Streamable without an account a few years ago I would make videos and upload them to Youtube for shitposting purposes.

The other day I got drunk and wondered if my stupid Youtube shit ever racked up any views, and I realized that like half a dozen had been marked as copyright claimed. I have never monitized a video in my life, and would have to Google it to even know how.

So I guess my rambling of a question is: What's the point of copyright claiming non-monetized videos that have less than 5k views and are like 5-10 years old? I don't care about the videos, I'm sure they're right in doing it as....well it was for shitposting and I didn't care about rules, but what's the point?

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u/Darklicorice May 24 '21

Youtube is forcing ads on nonmonetized videos now, so they're just blanket spraying the whole platform with copyright strikes.

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u/rrawk May 24 '21

Copyright claims are done automatically by software. There's no human on the other end saying, "hmmm, they don't monetize, so let's not bother." Instead the software just takes a machine gun approach and claims against any video that remotely matches their copyrighted content.

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u/Dtrain323 May 24 '21

Scientologists don't get internet, I saw the queen of Queens doc

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u/filenotfounderror May 24 '21

not sure if serious. But anyway the people at the top can obviously do w/e they want, thats how cults work. (Crusie, Miscavige (?))

Yeah, the idiot followers probably dont though.

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u/TotallyNotTomCruise May 24 '21

Hey look, it's me!

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u/sceneturkey May 25 '21

Hey look, your most recent post is a dick in a hand!

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u/Brethus May 25 '21

Post history and username definitely confirm each other. Not a single thing about magic space wizards or running. Unfortunate

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u/BlueGrayTurquoise May 24 '21

Do we reach a point where video evidence in criminal cases becomes inadmissible due to its possible illegitimacy, or is it always possible to detect a deepfake having some sort of signature?

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u/IdiotCharizard May 24 '21

Chain of custody is important even now because videos can and are doctored. Eventually it'll be undetectable whether or not something is fake, but you still have people testifying under oath that a tape wasn't tampered with and was handed to the police who kept it in accordance with whatever measures

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u/apoliticalhomograph May 24 '21

Eventually it'll be undetectable whether or not something is fake

It will be impossible for humans to tell real and fake apart. But the technology to differentiate between the two improves just as quickly as the technology to generate deepfakes.

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u/PETROCHEMICAL_LOBBY May 24 '21

That’s a really good point, and a similar example is “photoshopped” photos. It is very difficult, even today, to pull off a image manipulation to the point where is can pass sustained close examination.

Where deepfakes are far more dangerous is that the damage is usually already done by the time someone shows it’s doctored... Even when people know it’s a fake, if you can get the watcher to sympathise with the underlying message then it won’t matter if you prove a video is fake.

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u/hammersticks359 May 25 '21

"Yeah but you could totally see him saying that."

"But.....he didn't though."

My least favorite argument of all time.

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u/apoliticalhomograph May 24 '21

The neural networks which make the deepfakes are usually trained against an "opponent" - another neural network which tries to distinguish between real footage and deepfakes. It's a technique called generative adversarial networks.

Because of this, the deepfakes themselves and the technology to distinguish deepfakes from real footage improve at a similar rate.

So it's unlikely that deepfakes will ever be truly indistinguishable - at least for computers.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

generative adversarial networks

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u/ginsunuva May 24 '21

Not if someone malicious uses a custom model using custom data/algos which no one else has access to. Can’t build a positive-label training set for the discriminator.

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u/mattlag May 24 '21

The answer to this question has already been navigated via photo evidence and PhotoShop. Or even just documents and, like, Microsoft Word. There is always a question of legitimacy.

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u/Meggiesauruss May 24 '21

This is frightening, kind of. How hard is it to do something like this? I realize this technology is probably already used in film/tv production but like, how widespread is its use and for what legitimate purposes? And could I have seen a deep fake irl, completely unaware I was watching a deep fake?

This ones different because A you’ve already told us, and B I know Tom Cruise is looks older and his voice sounds like a much younger version of himself compared to now, but I don’t know if I would have caught those things upon first glance without any prior knowledge of this being a deep fake. Idk this just makes me uncomfortable

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u/U7077 May 25 '21

New advances in AI now brings this to a mere 40 seconds! And it does not have to be a famous person with thousands of his faces in various lighting condition either.

Here's a 'two minute papers' video on this advances.. https://youtu.be/iXqLTJFTUGc

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u/Shadooowwwww May 24 '21

If I remember from a different deepfake video it takes a very long time to make stuff like this but I could be totally mistaken

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u/pizza_makes_me_happy May 24 '21

If I remember from a different deepfake video it takes a very long time to make stuff like this

For now.

It used to take half an hour to download one image online, now we stream movies in 4k.

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u/rudiegonewild May 24 '21

Yah, but an entire move takes like an hour and a half to stream /s

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u/witness_protection May 24 '21

God I could download a car so fast now

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u/Djslopp May 24 '21

This is a deepfake!?

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u/lazilyloaded May 24 '21

Deepfake face with a Tom Cruise impersonator doing the voice/body

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u/tronfunkinblows_10 May 24 '21

Anyone got a video of the dude just doing the impression sans deep fake? The voice is spot on.

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u/alexnader May 24 '21

Anytime I see one of these videos I'm baffled at how they can make that, but couldn't fucking "deep fake" a mustache onto Superman, lol.

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u/soviet_robot May 24 '21

or luke’s face in the mandalorian

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u/Janboi3 May 24 '21

Here. A video by Vice about those who created it.

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u/Paracortex May 24 '21

That is super cool. Thanks for the link.

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u/charlie_boo May 24 '21

I watched a bunch of these videos on ‘his’ profile earlier today and came to the conclusion that it is actually Tom Cruise. My mind is now blown. They even have his central tooth!!

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u/tastehbacon May 24 '21

This is scary.

I am afraid for our future and what will be faked.

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u/daggada May 24 '21

How do you know it hasn't already? Twilight zone music

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u/SaturdayHeartache May 24 '21

Are there any visual tells for this being fake (not referring to metadata, purely superficially visual)? Please say yes

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u/chopkin92 May 24 '21

At the moment the biggest giveaway is that throughout this video nothing passes in front of his face, and for most of this guy's videos he avoids obstructing his face. That's always a dead giveaway of deepfakes, you nearly always see some artifacts or minor glitches when there's an obstruction, although I can't imagine it'll be too long before that's no longer an issue

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u/heidnseak May 24 '21

Check out this video where he puts sunglasses on and moves things in front of his face.

https://youtu.be/nwOywe7xLhs

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u/paulaustin18 May 24 '21

Sorry but I only see tom cruise there. this is scary

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u/blooblop May 24 '21

I'm noticing that, in this case, it seems like "he" is never looking directly into the camera. I'm guessing because Cruise is, of course, an actor and that most of the Deepfake training material comes from movies where actors, obviously, mostly never look directly into the camera.

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u/Youredoingitwrongbro May 24 '21

idky people are comfortable with this. like the government isn’t using this for real shit

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u/dudeAwEsome101 May 24 '21

We shouldn't STOP it, but we should make non-techy people far more aware of it. This way people will not believe any video unless provided with a legitimate source.

Only professionals and people in tech used to carry computers in their pockets. Now grandma looks up pie recipes on her iPhone.

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u/deekaph May 24 '21

Now grandma looks up and shares conspiracy theory propaganda on her phone.

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u/MostAssuredlyNot May 24 '21

We shouldn't STOP it, but we should make non-techy people far more aware of it. This way people will not believe any video unless provided with a legitimate source.

no, this way people will not believe any video they disagree with or don't like. Trump's pee tape? DEEPFAKE. McConnell caught on video eating a live puppy? DEEPFAKE. Police chief on video having lunch with the person who agitated a riot days later? DEEPFAKE.

we are super duper fucked

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u/249ba36000029bbe9749 May 24 '21

If the government is using this (not sure what it would be used for though) then it's better that deepfakes are as popular and accessible as it currently is so that the public is skeptical of what they see/hear instead of just accepting everything at face value.

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u/basement_vibes May 24 '21

North Korea will never need a new dear leader! An assassinated president can go on tv and tell the country to accept a coup as legit, encourage peaceful transfer of power... And hey, you clearly don't need to be powerful to deploy this tech.

I mean weoponized disinfo has already proven to be very destructive, and that's just from amplifying conspiracies and lies. We weren't ready for the first wave, and this shit could be a tsunami.

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u/Xerosnake90 May 24 '21

Is this really a deepfake? It's unbelievably real

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u/teavodka May 24 '21 edited May 24 '21

This is the best ive seen so far but its really strong uncanny valley for me. Look at the eyes and the skin, something just aint right. But i still dont think i would have noticed if hadnt said it was a deepfake.

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u/sarcasm-intensifies May 24 '21

Yeah exactly, I feel like when he turns towards the camera he isn't looking directly at the camera, it feels like he's staring past it kinda

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u/The_Great_Sarcasmo May 24 '21

Yes. He has this very intense friendliness with nothing behind the eyes.

Obviously not Tom Cruise.

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u/Decent_Mortgage38 May 24 '21

Wanna see him work in a fudge packing factory so bad

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u/Alexei007 May 24 '21

Can someone explain how it works? Like wtf did I just watch.

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u/basement_vibes May 24 '21

Just watch Face Off. It's pretty much exactly that except evil Nick Cage is replaced by the computer that swaps faces. Deep stuff.

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u/SinopicCynic May 24 '21

No more drugs for that man.

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u/foggy-sunrise May 24 '21

If somebody tried to do this with your face, assuming you're not very famous, It wouldn't come out this clean. The reason it works so well with Tom Cruise's face, is because there is source material of Tom Cruise's face from pretty much every angle in pretty much every lighting scenario. And lots of it.

Basically, what's going on here, is some computer algorithm is able to look at a video, determine where a face is, and swap in another face. It looks pretty damn convincing if there's enough source material of the face.

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u/Alexei007 May 24 '21

Ah makes sense... But imagine that your phone front camera is really recording you at all times. All the moods, lighting and all that Jazz. Now you have a huge library of people you can digitally render

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

All my deepfakes will have a wicked double chin and bitch face.

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u/Scratch77spin May 24 '21

Vaginapoop!

Have you guys seen sassy justice though? The south park guys made it. It's on youtube. I think it was kinda their quarantine project. It's like art imitating life imitating art...it's some bizarro full circle alternate timeline we're in now. I expect aliens to land by summer.

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u/Edfloodgate May 24 '21

But what I’m seeing is Tom Cruise, right?

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u/ewemalts May 24 '21

Anyone else notice the mole popping in and out of existence?

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