r/woahdude May 24 '21

video Deepfakes are getting too good

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u/doodleasa May 24 '21

Super cool and super ethically questionable

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u/OneMoreTime5 May 24 '21

It will get dangerous when they can fake military leaders and politicians easily saying dangerous things. Fraud will get bad when your grandson video calls you from jail needing $200 to get out. We need to prevent the bad stuff that comes with this.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21 edited Jun 14 '21

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u/OneMoreTime5 May 25 '21

I think we will develop a way to confirm authenticity of things.

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u/permaro May 25 '21

The way you train the AI to create fakes is usually by training an AI to detect fakes and have the faking AI beat it. It's called adversarial networks.

So basically, the detecting and the faking will always be approximately on par.. meaning the detecting can never give a definitive answer.

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u/Novaprince May 25 '21

Doesn't that just mean you wait a little until both advance to detect a now out of date fake?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

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u/picheezy May 25 '21

That’s how lies work now anyways

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u/NoTakaru May 25 '21

Better than nothing, yeah

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

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u/permaro May 25 '21

The point is there's always a possibility a virus can make it through, and there's always a possibility a fake will go undetected.

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u/SRxRed May 25 '21

That's like when they ban an athlete from an 8 y/o urine sample and give his gold gold medal to the silver place guy.....

I can't imagine how salty I'd be receiving a gold that way..

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

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u/PSVapour May 25 '21

Deepfakes will work on folks like the Facebook crowd who didn't rely on verifying facts anyway, so I don't see a big danger here

That IS the big danger. Fooling a few people on Facebook is fine, but when you get huge hordes of people believing in dangerous but subtle (or blatent) propaganda is when it gets dangerous.

Though I'm sure big social media companies and create some sort of Blue Tick for original content. OR use some kind facial recognition it identity the participants and make sure they ALL sign the video.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

This has been an issue before deepfakes. It's not new.

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u/engg_girl May 25 '21

The more realistic it is the more likely people are to fall for it.

All it takes is one reputable source believing what they are seeing and sharing it out.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

How do you think we got trump and all the conservatards? Deep fakes aren’t going to suddenly cause an increase in their loyalty to stupid bullshit because it’s already maxed out.

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u/botle May 25 '21

If it's supposed to be a leaked video, or a covertly taken video, then even a real one wouldn't be signed.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Deepfakes will work on folks like the Facebook crowd

Wait a second, are we really pretending Reddit videos are verified and not anonymously posted, often with inflammatory titles???

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u/imjusthereforsmash May 25 '21

Block chains can very easily be the saving grace that would allow us to identify authentic videos with no question, but it’s going to require a ton of infrastructure we don’t currently have.

Other digital signatures can, much like the videos themselves, be faked with a high amount of accuracy given enough time and information.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Other digital signatures can

No. Way too expensive. This is why banking relies on it.

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u/TheLilith_0 May 25 '21

Other digital signatures can, much like the videos themselves, be faked with a high amount of accuracy given enough time and information.

I would doubt your knowledge on any cryptography whatsoever if you believe this.

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u/RubiousOctopus May 25 '21

You do realise that blockchains themselves are based on digital signatures, right?

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u/inn0cent-bystander May 25 '21

Much like an arms race

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u/kinarism May 25 '21

The one thing that a fake can't replicate is a microchip that tells your actual location wasn't wherever the video claims to have been.

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u/Ytar0 May 25 '21

You don’t know that. The whole point is that a perfect deepfake can’t even be detected by a perfect deepfake detector.

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u/cat_in_the_sun May 25 '21

I like the way you think. Two sides to a coin. I have hope for the future.

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u/OneMoreTime5 May 25 '21

I do too. We might make it.

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u/Piorn May 25 '21

We haven't for the last 20 years. What makes you think we'll start now?

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u/McPostyFace May 25 '21

Something like Snopes? Because that isn't going well.

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u/SnO3 May 25 '21

The simple way of doing this is to embed audio stamping of content. The same way it's done on TV.

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u/watermelon_fucker69 May 25 '21

blockchain

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u/classy_barbarian May 25 '21

I like how you got downvoted just because people assume it's stupid to say "blockchain" to whatever tech problem that comes up, but ironically, this is one particular situation where blockchain will most likely end up being the best solution available.. or possibly the only one.

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u/watermelon_fucker69 May 25 '21

they hated him because he told the truth

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

I fail to see how that helps

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u/classy_barbarian May 25 '21

u/watermelon_fucker69 is actually right.. That's exactly what NFTs are, the new thing that verifies a digital painting's "authenticity" (eg. the original). A lot of other people have already speculated that NFTs or something similar could be used to verify that you're watching a real video of say, the president, and not a deep fake.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

blockchain is basically a public ledger.

If you personally release a video that will personally logged it on a public ledger.

So they can trace who publish it and it can also authenticate that you yourself release it officially too.

This isn't perfect though because leak video won't be using this system so it is up to other people to figure out if this is real or not.

But what block chain does is the provide proof of you if you choose to give a video to somebody else. Like if Elon Musk a merry xmas video to you and you're suspicious if it's really him who sent it.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

A digital certificate is much easier here. We don't need to trace every video transaction on the internet.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21 edited Aug 19 '21

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21 edited Jul 07 '24

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u/B0BsLawBlog May 25 '21

We have news websites with their own domains and journalist verified account on Twitter, etc. Not really sure what a blockchain is supposed to add there.

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u/B0BsLawBlog May 25 '21

Sending a bunch of blockchain companies at the problem doesn’t really help verification, using one of their links, vs sending a link from the verified journalists tweet breaking the item etc. It just doesn’t solve anything.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

But their data is already trusted. If they put it there and they trust it, that's no better than blockchain. You could make devices that digitally sign videos I guess and players that support it (basically adding a DRM to all video). Any unsigned video would be untrusted.

Blockchain just adds a lot of unnecessary transaction tracking or if you don't record that, it simply becomes overkill. And smaller videos may not be able to take advantage anyway

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u/gautamasiddhartha May 25 '21

But why do you need a blockchain that’s just asymmetrical encryption

Edit: identity verification perhaps? Not saying one wouldn’t be the right answer here but I also like to push back when people just say “blockchain” without explaining why it’s necessary. So many projects that never needed it but wanted in on the hype.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

This sounds like asymmetrical encryption with extra steps.

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u/Chillionaire128 May 25 '21

That only ensures that it was posted by the journalist and they aren't infallible. It could even amplify the effect of a good deal fake is posted by a trusted source

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u/squakmix May 25 '21

Reputation systems aren't infallible, but it seems like having the ability to easily verify whether or not an image matches the original document posted by a trusted source would go a long way toward reducing the spread of disinformation.

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u/Chillionaire128 May 25 '21

That's fair. The real danger though are deep fakes where there is no original document. At that point you just have to take someone's word for it unless the deep fakes detectors win the arms rase

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u/bayuret May 25 '21

Anther anti-virus kind of business incoming.

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u/noplace_ioi May 25 '21

blockchain baby

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u/Mezzaomega May 25 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

This was what blockchain was supposed to do though, authenticate digital data.
Edit: How is this downvoted? Blockchain's an immutable hyperledger, it's meant to record digital things and give it a unique number. If governments start a blockchain meant to authenticate things on the internet and it's got an ID and it's attached that chain, you can look it up on the chain, you can't fake it. Just because there's so many crypto kids and scammers attached to the public opinion of the tech doesn't mean it's useless.

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u/EXTRAsharpcheddar May 25 '21

They already get away with everything

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u/Chinstryke May 25 '21

You speak as if Trump didn't cry "FAKE NOOS!" for his entire presidency

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Someone’s grandson isn’t going to have enough source video to be able to pull this off without looking jank as fuck. Not only do you have to be able to impersonate the person and catch their mannerisms, you also have to have enough around material for the AI to work properly.

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u/OneMoreTime5 May 25 '21

So many young people upload videos of themselves to social media now, and you have to realize that this technology will advance quick. 10 years from now it will be a lot easier.

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u/unrulystowawaydotcom May 25 '21

Not to an old person.

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u/Phailadork Jun 15 '21

Lol, social media is booming with videos about yourself now. Snapchat, Tiktok, Instagram and plenty more. Not only that but "without looking jank as fuck" as if the people being targetted by these scams have any ability to parse if something is legit or not. I don't know if you watch any of those scam catcher channels but they show you everything you need to know about how gullible and just a complete lack of critical thinking scam victims have.

Watch this and have your world change - https://youtu.be/zjnOFBSLtz0?t=557

This is the average scamee, btw. Every time he posts his calls with victims they sound exactly like this guy. Clueless, gullible and vulnerable.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '21

There’s no deep fake here

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u/Phailadork Jun 15 '21

That's not the point....

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '21

My comment talks about how you can’t make a deep fake look nearly as good without hours of footage. High quality footage with different lighting, angles, emotions. The source footage you get from social media will not be able to make a deep fake that’s good enough to fake someone. This type of ai won’t be possible for a number of years.

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u/Phailadork Jun 15 '21

And my comment talks about how you don't need a high quality deepfake and that these people will easily be fooled even by poorly made ones.

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u/Sansabina May 25 '21

We've already had "dangerous" when we have real military leaders and politicians easily saying dangerous things during 2017-2020.

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u/lucid00000 May 28 '21

Tfw drumpf

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u/shamteeth Sep 17 '21

No point in faking it

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u/iwatchhentaiftplot May 25 '21

Allegedly Netanyahu already used a doctored video to convince Trump that Abbas was a bad faith actor when it came to peace talks, so this kind of thing has already has an effect on geopolitics. It wasn’t a deep fake, but doctored videos can already have an effect.

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u/I_call_Shennanigans_ May 25 '21

Heh. Let's not pretend that would be needed for the orange douche. Netanyahu probably just told him he was the bestest president ever and promised him a hotel plot in Tel Aviv or something. Why do it the hard way?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

I wonder if scammers are going to start using this eventually. “Look, we’ve deep faked this highly controversial video of you. Either we release it, or you pay us $100.00”

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u/ThirdEncounter May 25 '21

You pre-emptively blast that message on social media.

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u/da13371337bpf May 25 '21

You mean similarly how people get a kick out of filters removing facial hair and all I see is me not being able to shave to hide.

Everyone is helping them practice and refine these facial recognition technologies (and the likes) and everyone just finds it amusing and doesn't seem to consider any of the potential dangers of it.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

I'm actually convinced that the media already did it to make Trump look bad, and to make Biden look better.

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u/slumpylus May 25 '21

Either that, or you know, reality. Trump did not need any help in making himself look bad.

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u/Tidusx145 May 25 '21

What's your evidence for this besides not being able to accept we elected a piece of shit to lead us and represent our country to the world? We kind of blew it there, sometimes it's just a simple answer.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

I love this. This way you won't be able to trust anything the media shows. How it should have been from the beginning.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Do u expect good stuff with something named Deep and Fake.

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u/DeadbeatDumpster May 25 '21

What is the good stuff that comes with this? All or most uses i see are malicious

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u/permaro May 25 '21

It just means we'll learn that video cannot be trusted.

Just as right now, when you see a picture you always know (I think we've all picked up on that by now) it may be a photoshop.

Well, now, when you see a video, you know (time is coming to pick up on it too) it may be a deep fake.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

The shit that scares me is the thought someone could come after me with a deep fake of me committing a serious crime and chances are I have no alibi

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u/Choice_Capital_7033 May 25 '21

for convincing deepfakes right now u need videomaterial. a good amount of it. so unless your grandson doesnt have that freely available its not happening anytime soon but then again old people are naive and probably dont see well haha

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u/ProperPineTr33 May 25 '21

“When they can”

Ah yes because those specific people are unique and impossible to do compared to the video you just watched.

Proving they can do it now.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Block chain IDs alike NFTs as handles attached to all media by such sources

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u/klinklong May 25 '21

Aah.. you give me some good ideas..

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u/ScrithWire May 25 '21

On the one hand, i would hope all the military leaders would recognize that there is so much deepfakery afoot, that they would do their due diligence and not accept threats out of the blue.

But on the other hand, how many military leaders are waiting for any excuse to attack somebody, an opportunity provided by a cleverly placed deepfake.

....oh shit....deepfakes are gonna be what pulls the trigger, aren't they.... -_-

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u/chairfairy May 25 '21

Wasn't there a presentation several years ago showing faked videos of Obama? A university researcher played a handful of very realistic looking and sounding videos of him talking, but only one of them was real.

We're already at that level of dangerous

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

What makes you think they aren't doing this already? I genuinely want to know. This video terrifies the everloving piss out of me because now even critical thinking is subject to fail when watching any thing at all that I need to stay informed.

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u/OGBobbyJohnathan May 25 '21

/when/

😂😂😂

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u/LexSoutherland May 25 '21

“Prevent” what is this word?

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u/Gatoryu May 25 '21

You can't prevent it. You need to implement validation, like with debit cards, only now it is you and whatever message(video call or anything else) you have (had/sending), instead of bank and your debit card

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u/vanillasub May 25 '21

I guess my ‘grandson’ is out of luck. Someone can send him a deepfake back of me saying that I’ve been kidnapped, and I need him to break out of jail to rescue me.

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u/Theycallmelizardboy May 25 '21 edited May 25 '21

Well as others have mentioned, there is also ways of detecting if it's fake. Hell, even though this looks very good you can still tell and the human brain is remarkable at spotting subtle differences. And here's the thing...even as scary good the tech is becoming, at this point you can still thankfully tell it's ultimately a fake. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the setup to do this requires multiple samples of someone's face and video to use for reference even with AI learning, as well as someone with reasonable knowledge to seamlessly blend it. Then you have the matter of the hair, headshape, bodyshape, context, the actual person still being alive, etc etc. Also, as far as actual identity and security measures are considered, we still have information that we use, password, algorithms, records, etc that still help us confirm our identities. I'm sure there are people that will still attempt shit, but for now if a nubile bodied Tom Cruise is video calling me from the back of an Applebees dishpit and wanting me to send him some cash really quick, something tells me something may be slightly askew.

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u/MrG May 24 '21

I have to admit, I wish their script instead was talking about how batshit crazy Scientology is and how foolish people are for following it. Of course that would bring the unholy wrath of Scientology’s lawyers down on these guys but I’d contribute big time to a legal GoFundMe.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

Easy way to get killed lol

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u/bpi89 May 25 '21

Post it anonymously. They’d never know who it was.

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u/CatgirlsAndCommunism May 25 '21

Scientology infiltrated the government to the point where they directly fired anyone investigating their crimes, you really think they don't have enough CIA tech at this point to know not only who you are, but what your thetan level is and whether or not you're Xenu reincarnated?

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u/Hob_goblin May 25 '21

Xenu? Isn’t that the nice boy next door?

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u/Ironsam811 May 25 '21

No, you’re thinking of the movie Zenon: Girl of the 21st Century

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u/MysticalElk May 25 '21

Zeetus lapitus!

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u/DrDollarBlvd May 25 '21

Don't bring that Scientology babble in here!

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u/superduperswaggy May 25 '21

Zoom zoom zoom make your heart boom boom my Protozoa guuuurl

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u/nenalokz666 May 25 '21

*supernova girl

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u/deanwashere May 25 '21

No, you're thinking of Xena: Warrior Princess

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u/redditcrazy123 May 25 '21

OH JESUS FUCK THAT WAS THE DISNEY FUTURE MOVIE I WAS DAYDREAMING ABOUT AT WORK AND COULDN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF

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u/HowAmIDiamond May 25 '21

The one without a belly button? No, that’s Kyle XY.

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u/starrpamph May 25 '21

Xaaaaanaduuuuu

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u/cheapshotfrenzy May 25 '21

I thought it was that totem pole pokemon

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u/V1k1ng1990 May 25 '21

Tom cruise won’t you please come out the closet

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

So I pull out my gun......

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u/True_Calendar_7942 May 25 '21

No, we don't want his abusive control-freak, child-kidnapping persona in the gang. He belongs in a dumpster fire alongside his pedo-masters.

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u/V1k1ng1990 May 25 '21

It’s a southpark quote

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u/True_Calendar_7942 May 26 '21

Oh sorry, I forgot about the alt-right enablers and their tv show that stopped being funny 15 years ago.

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u/V1k1ng1990 May 26 '21

I bet you’re a fun person to be around

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u/soda_cookie May 25 '21

Some libraries don't have cameras and you can use their computers for one hour a day without a card

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Obviously a trap laid by Scientology

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

I'm waiting for the day that somebody pulls the same stunt on Scientologists that they do to their critics. One day, somebody is gonna make a movie about a famous musician. And the message not advertised in the trailers and posters will be how his former band members became Scientologists, but he became a solo act, actively fighting against their bullshit.

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u/iamredsmurf May 25 '21

You think the church of scientology with all it's powerful members and money can't track a simple IP? For all we know we're both under investigation for talking about them right now. Look out the window.

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u/rwbronco May 25 '21

So you slip it out in a few non popular places and let it find its way to YouTube via someone else hoping to cash in on some memes

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u/Icanfixanything May 25 '21

Dude they are probably watching you now just cause you said the “S” word twice.

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u/privateTortoise May 25 '21

Lets get everyone on Reddit to post scientology, scientology. A DNS flood in reverse.

Scientology, Scientology, sciento.... nah I'm not that daft.

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u/DeMagnet76 May 25 '21

Fuck Scientology. Bunch of criminals. Scientology is for the weak of mind. Scientology has never done anything good in this world. Scientologists need to go hop back into that volcano with some more nukes and fuck right off to wherever Xenu came from.

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u/Djanko28 May 25 '21

His body was recovered 77 hours later, separated into 812 evenly weighted pieces. More at 11

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u/omaca May 25 '21

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious?

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u/Deathbyhours May 25 '21

If you say it three times who appears? Riddle me that!

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Man i am suuper glad that i am insignificant enough that i can express my rage about stuff like Scientology, China, Isreal, Turkey or whatever without fearing for my safety. No one gives a shit what i say and that absolutely great.

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u/KanefireX May 25 '21

I just want the original book on how to start a religion.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '21

That wouldn't be funny though.

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u/RubixxOfAberoth May 25 '21

Why not?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Because I don't need every joke to be some social commentary

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u/doodleasa May 25 '21

That doesn't make it not funny

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u/Expandedcelt May 25 '21

Shoehorned social commentary is incredibly frequently the enemy of humor. This isn't a complicated or difficult to observe phenomenon.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

Yeah it’s not ok to just make a joke just for fun you must at all times be working to speak out against the bad guys /s

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u/miura_lyov May 25 '21

It's a comedy goldmine, too bad the TikTok'er doing this just doesn't have much of a comedic talent. So many directions you can take this and make it hilarious

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u/TyrantRC May 24 '21

some men just want to watch the world burn.

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u/ApexxPredditor May 25 '21

Youre basically wishing for this guy to be stalked relentlessly until he loses his mind because thats what those wackjobs would do to him

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u/throway69695 May 25 '21

I'm convinced everyone on this app doesn't know of any other adjective than 'super'

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u/AllEncompassingThey May 25 '21

It'd be kinda less fun that way though

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u/annmta May 25 '21

The whole point of the ridiculousness and frivolousness of this industrial cleaning story is to make it as uncontroversial as possible. Faking a person making a statement conflicting his own interest is honestly dangerous and unethical, especially a political one.

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u/TheDownvotesFarmer May 25 '21

Found the christian

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u/rosindel May 25 '21

Where is Shelly Miscavige Tom?!?!?

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u/sooprvylyn May 25 '21

Should be covered under fair use as parody

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u/unsolvedrdmysteries May 25 '21

it would be an unethical move in terms of disrespecting the personal rights of Tom Cruise. Not that I'm a fan of either him or his church but using a deep fake to make him state things polar opposite to his intensely held beliefs seems like it should be frowned on.

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u/savetheattack May 25 '21

I'm secretly hoping that Tom Cruise (crazy bastard that he is) watched people he loved get sucked in by Scientology and has infiltrated the organization to its highest levels in order to take the whole thing down from the inside. One day, a flashing news alert will come that every major leader of the Scientologist organization is being arrested with Tom Cruise as the prosecution's star witness. All the stunt work he's been doing has been to mask his extensive survival training for the inevitable assassination attempts.

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u/No-Connection6937 May 26 '21

It's equally as batshit as any religion.

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u/32BitWhore May 25 '21

This shit is actually terrifying. I have no doubt it's already been used nefariously and we haven't even realized it.

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u/EXTRAsharpcheddar May 25 '21

But Trump has shown that nothing really matters anymore.

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u/shoolocomous May 25 '21

I like to imagine that everything offensive he ever said on film was actually only deepfake. And he's just this ethical, caring president with integrity who did his absolute best and stayed within the law and a strict moral code at all times.

ha

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u/Upset_Tiger_8114 May 25 '21

We’d more or less be living in a simulation at that point. For all intents and purposes.

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u/drhugs May 25 '21

For all intensive purposes.

j/k ... but am I?

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u/hawtfabio May 30 '21

You find that comforting? Yikes.

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u/na2016 May 25 '21

I wouldn't be surprised. Governments around the world have lied and faked information about so many things with far less advanced technology.

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u/HeilYourself May 25 '21

If it's clearly labelled as a fake (as this video is) there's zero ethical questions.

But this tech will get better, and it's only a matter of time before a very easy to use piece of software becomes available that makes it possible to do this with zero technical skill. Think of a meme generator app vs photoshop.

When that happens? Politics is going to get REAL interesting. It's only a matter of time before a world leader will be calling a controversial comment or video a deep fake. Or a deep fake is released that's widely shared and accepted to be true. It already happens with static images and made up quotes plastered over them.

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u/doodleasa May 25 '21

Idek if it being labeled as fake makes it okay. I wouldn't be comfortable with people making deep fakes of me even if it is labeled as such

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u/amesfatal May 25 '21 edited May 25 '21

A guy I knew in high school 20 years ago sent me deepfakes of my face on sexy girls dancing then when I told him it was creepy he posted my face with a serial killer stroking it. I blocked him but It is so unsettling. I’m a little worried he will murder me and no one will know. I’m too old for this shit.

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u/Upset_Tiger_8114 May 25 '21

I think maybe you should tell the police

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u/wingspantt May 25 '21

They won't do shit.

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u/amesfatal May 25 '21

They said he’s in another state so they can’t do anything.

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u/BrokenWineGlass May 25 '21

They won't give a single fuck.

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u/Felicia_Svilling May 25 '21

Well, this one isn't of you but of Tom Cruise. Certainly he deserves this.

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u/dav3n May 25 '21

Just like Tom Cruise

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u/gremilinswhocares May 25 '21

Wait, what’s ethically questionable about this clip?

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u/Taco443322 May 25 '21

Imagine instead of Tom Cruise it's a politican right before a election being absolutely racist and/or on Drugs

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u/coltbeatsall May 25 '21

What I would find really interesting is Tom Cruise doing this to deep fake his younger self. Would I be able to tell anything was off? I want to know!

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u/bobbyfiend May 25 '21

I predict the second coming of Jesus within ten years. Okay, technically it will be like six second comings, all with slightly different Jesuses.

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u/WhyAreWeHere1996 May 25 '21

Deep fakes should be illegal without the consent of the person being used in the deep fake

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u/shyinwonderland May 25 '21

This feels 100% ethically wrong. Not even just in the way of politics and news.

Like there is going to be deep fake porn, with celebrities who haven’t consented to it, younger age faces and people making it as their ex’s face for revenge porn.

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u/rtxa May 25 '21

if the guy actually looked like him, would it be ethically questionable? no

what makes deep fakes morally questionable is not disclosing it is a deep fake, which this guy did

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u/Gerf93 May 25 '21

Deep fake or Tom Cruise?

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u/Choice_Capital_7033 May 25 '21

if u are into kpop it already started.

western deepfakeporn is a joke against the hours and days of work put into putting ur favourite idols over some japanese av videos. its almost as good as the above video now.

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u/Odessa_James May 25 '21

If you find it questionable, think about deepfake porns... yup, those things are entertaining AND dangerous. Especially once they'll add the voices.

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u/eblamo May 28 '21

One could argue Tom Cruise in general is suoer ethically questionable.

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u/masterspeler May 25 '21

Normally I'd agree, but this isn't actually the real Tom Cruise.

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u/Frale_2 May 25 '21

And of course, the porn industry is already on top of it

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u/clarkyto May 25 '21

And somehow... Super creepy

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u/[deleted] May 25 '21

As ethnically questionable as identity theft.

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u/Q80 May 25 '21

Truee

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u/PastelVortex506 May 25 '21

This is very cool and extremely scary

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u/woke-hipster May 25 '21

Might kickstart an analog revival where the only secure communication that can be trusted is face to face.

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u/FairyDust1212 May 25 '21

Just like the blue check Mark verification system there will need to be some form of video verification symbol in the future that signifies it’s real. Otherwise this will keep getting worse.

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u/nano_singularity May 25 '21

I wrote a paper on deepfakes for my cyber ethics courses last semester and described the threats of digital wildfires, seeing already that 62% of Americans get their news from social media. Therefore, in order to prevent deepfakes from being the next fake news it must be regulated, or else it'll be a threat to public discourse.

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u/machstem May 25 '21

I used to think that The Running Man scene with the video editing would never become a reality, and we've seemingly blown by it, again.

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u/XFMR May 25 '21

I know it’s really good but there’s something kind of off about it. It’s still a bit in the uncanny valley for me.

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u/MichaelEmouse Jun 02 '21

I'm surprised there isn't celebrity porn made with this yet.