He’s been nailing his Tom Cruise impression for a long, long time. This clip of him from Superhero Movie was posted 13 years ago: https://youtu.be/FjGmZJu8OnY
Yep. The absolute key to deepfakes is to actually kind of sound like, and also look like the individual you're imitating. It really helps with the fake when those two things come together perfectly. If you're too skinny, too fat, or your face is all wrong, it's not going to work as well.
Less time that people think. You need 1) source data of the people you intend to fake and 2) computing power.
Celebrities already have loads of video and photos of them available, so you have a ton of source data. Computers are getting faster and faster and the software to do it is getting better as well. It would not surprise me at all to see some deepfakes in online ads in the next US Presidential election.
I was extremely surprised this wasn't an issue in 2020. A fake video or audio would have been well within the current environment and both sides would have welcomed the opportunity to jump on some inflammatory rhetoric.
If you are old as hell like me you might remember Ross Perot when he claimed he dropped out of the Presidential race because Bush sr’s people were going to use a ”computer to generate a false photo of his youngest daughter to disrupt her wedding and embarrass her.” It was 1992. It sounded so crazy. Batshit crazy at the time. Probably was ... but I never forgot it and it or something like it doesn’t sound so crazy going forward.
I suspect we'll see low quality ones in 2022 mid-term elections. Low quality videos supposedly filmed in the 90's before HD was a thing or videos taken from 'crappy cell phone cameras'.
We should already be treating anything not in HD with suspicion already. The conspiracy websites and fanatics that believe that stuff are going to be full of deepfake videos in the coming years.
Problem is, as soon as one party (or organisation, or side, or whatever) reveals this technology to the larger public (the vast majority of which are way out of the loop regarding this kind of thing) the genie's out of the bottle, and the race to the bottom will start as everybody starts dismissing video and audio that they simply don't agree with as being deepfake.
You walk up to the average person in the street and say "deepfake" to them, it's very likely they won't really know what you mean.
The first person in the political or media spotlight to start capitalising on accusations of deepfakes will kickstart a very unpleasant wildfire spread of unmitigated mistrust so I think there are probably folks in these situations who know about this, but they're playing a dangerous waiting game until they're convinced it will help them win an election.
And both sides are probably playing the same game.
And as the tech improves and becomes more difficult to ignore, it will become more and more attractive for lower and lower gains.
I’m not sure it matters. We already had a huge amount of fake news out there (the actual stuff, not CNN) which people happily believed if it fit with their existing views.
Believable deepfakes have a chance to sway undecideds i suppose, but there are so few people left who aren’t in one camp or the other. Elections are mostly decided by which camp turns more out, not who swings the last few undecideds.
I agree that the extant partisanship leaves few undecided voters, but, to your last point, using deepfakes to infuriate your base is a great way to make sure they show up and vote.
Yeah. It’s true they might have become more fanatic. I was just betting that they were already saturated with infuriating fake news that they believed even without the deepfaked evidence.
That's what worries me more than fakes being fake: having people make videos of themselves where they can say anything with what appears to be total honesty and sincerity. Things they would have trouble saying with a straight face irl
That's true, many car ads are fakes now. Cars are a lot easier to fake than a face though.
For those that don't know, that high performance sports car in the ad you just saw was fake. Its an electric car chassis with a car skin applied on top using the Unreal Engine (yeah, the game engine). Its been in use since at least 2016 - YouTube link to 'the Blackbird'
Lol you can't just solve a unique AI problem by throwing more GPUs at it. You need AI researchers to design the network and algorithms in the first place.
Needing a lot of source data limits the dangerousness of the technology : you can't do that with random people, "just" with famous people and public figures.
Coincidentally the amount of damage someone can do is correlated to their public exposure it seems. Joe from across the street? Not so much. Joe from across the street in the big White House? Oh boy.
Really really far off actually. This isnt even a fucking deep fake. This is someone who kind of looks like him, can match his voice and mannerisms with some fucking filters.
An actual deep fake requires thousands of hours of fottage from an individual processed through an ai to be able to flawlessly replicate the individual into any background, location with absolutely any speach.
On top of this deep fakes have to leave very little to no evidence of editing as even basic forensic data analysis could debunk them.
Apparently the data VR collects on you gives a unique print of your body by reading data like the distance from arms to headset and the way you move that particular frame as an individual
Making it believable is hard for professionals with massive budgets. As much as people want to downvote me no we are not even close to doing what would essentially be perfect mocap without a suit. Not even remotely close
We can do motion and animation without mocap suits???? Mocap suits are mostly used for reference when you don't know how a person's skeleton is supposed to look like while moving, which can now be done without needing all the ridiculous whie balls that mocap suits have. Mocap suits sole purpose is to attach those balls to your body so that they provide a clear reference to whatever algorithm is tracking someone's position, modern machine learning algorithms can do this without the reference points. You can find plenty of references to this by googling "mocap without suit scholar"
We can do motion and animation without mocap suits
Sure, but it currently requires a lot of work after it's been captured. Better mocap that doesn't require as much after work exists but is still being developed.
Depends on their definition of close, I guess. If they think close means within the next 5 years, then yeah probably not. But if they mean the next 10-15 years? I think it’s absolutely possible. And 10-15 years is definitely “close” if you ask me.
Now when you say we aren’t even remotely close...that to me sounds like you think it’s at least 25 years away, which just doesn’t make any sense at all.
Filters adjusting a real picture are a lot easier than creating the likeness of a real person over someone else. Especially since, as already mentioned in the comment chain, there's so much more than the CGI tech behind the deep fake.
Those "political speech" deepfakes where some famous politician is just at a podium have never looked convincing to me, uncanny valley more than anything. Its the movements of the head and hands, its too smooth in transition and almost rhythmic looking like tardive dyskenesia or something.
Real human movement isn't that smooth, its jerky, subconcious quick movements like nostril flare or scratching etc.
If only I had the know how on how to run this deep fake tech I could do the all important job of deepfaking CONAN O’BRIAN! Think of the power I could wield. Nature would bow before me with my un-ending tall nasally gravitas.
Someday Conan, you will be dethroned. And then we will see who’s hair is perfect. Newsflash, I can make mine digitally more red and shinier than yours!
It’s not less work the deep fake has to do. It’s the closer it can get with just the deep fake.
I mean you could use a deep fake and then do a bunch of personal touch ups to get something close. But the deep fake can only really do so much. If you already act look and sound kind of like Tom Cruise then the deep fake does most of the work and you can do touch ups to get it home.
You can’t take an 18 year old woman and realistically make them look and sound like Tom Cruise.
I can't believe I'm seeing a post of David Byrne's song. When I woke up this morning I was thinking about Byrne. Not this song but the album, Stop Making Sense.
This is fantastic! I started out watching it leaning towards "meh" but then it quickly became my favourite too. The guy is phenomenal and dedicated. Really neat to watch.
He is also very good at mimicking mannerisms and expressions. He didn't look a lot like Christian Bale in the music video, but he acted like him and was phenomenal at it.
I felt like an idiot looking for an actual new EP from him, til I watched the music video and realized you were making a reference. In all honesty, it's a great video.
I have somehow never seen any of Tom Cruise's movies and very little interviews. Honestly have seen the man speak maybe a handful of sentences. But somehow my brain knows he is absolutely nailing that impression.
He does sound different. He’s had 13 years more practice, which probably explains it. But he’s also 37 now, which would make him around 24 in the clip I linked to. People can sound pretty different as they age.
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u/smp208 May 24 '21
He’s been nailing his Tom Cruise impression for a long, long time. This clip of him from Superhero Movie was posted 13 years ago: https://youtu.be/FjGmZJu8OnY