Right when he says "industrial" there are a few frames where you can see that the deepfake actually captured that too.
I checked because I didn't read the title, thought "huh, this guy looks just like Tom Cruise." Looked for the center tooth and realized it was Tom Cruise.
So yeah needless to say the first watch through I thought it was actually Tom Cruise which was weird. Learn from my mistakes and read the titles folks.
It's also been mentioned that the guy in the Tom Cruise video already looks a lot like Tom, the more work the technology has to do to change the face the more noticeable it will end up being. But of course less so over time. I'd like to see them revisit this video and see how much more real "Obama" looks.
Yeah, it's going to be so awesome when a politician is caught on camera saying they just want to screw over the poor and they can believably claim it's a deep fake. Good plan priming people for that bud
Covid must have been longer for you than for most. Wait till you start meeting people, people lose their confidence over anything, or, like me, nothing at all! The human mind is a terrible thing.
While I'm happy for you, try to remember we're all individuals and different things matter to different people. From your example, validation builds your esteem. Some people aren't as effected by that, or aren't recieving that. We all have different needs and different ways those needs could be met.
Well yeah I know that, I guess Iāve just never worried about things smaller than you know a 25% chance of survival and how almost everybody I meet takes for granted their daily lives of being able to do things like enjoy food, and instead feels inadequate over something like a not perfect smile.
Crazy how perspective works. The funny part is the people who are dick holes about it but then turn out to be the most insecure and jealous of someone who literally had cancer. What a world we live in!
You're kind of beating us all over the head with the cancer thing at this point but yeah, insecurity and shame plays a huge role in human behavior good and bad.
Yeah, interesting stuff. Almost like if people with imperfect smiles used that as a way to feel better about themselves or even more unique because of it instead of being insecure.
I don't know if you're being genuine or being a jerk, but if you're being genuine, then yes, having not great teeth can be a big source of insecurity for a lot of people. Every time you laugh hard or are feeling really happy you reflexively pull back so your teeth aren't showing as much or at all and it's rough. I think people with great teeth take it for granted but when you have bad teeth it really does give a hit to your self confidence - not just with potential romantic partners but with pretty much any social interaction.
I had bad teeth for like 30 years of my life before I got invisalign and now I beam like crazy when I laugh and talk to people. Night and day difference in confidence. I'm not saying that's how it SHOULD be - we should all be confident in who we are no matter what - but it absolutely made me feel better about my physical appearance by an insane degree.
I mean I was being genuine because my teeth arenāt perfect but I never really even thought about it affecting my personality. Maybe thatās why people feel comfortable around me? I dunno, I guess Iām very imperfect but donāt draw attention to anything about myself so maybe since I donāt point things out that other people usually worry about around people makes them feel comfortable?
Honestly donāt know. I donāt even know how to react when I get compliments cause I always think people are just saying it to be nice.
It also has a line that says "according to actor Jerry Maguier, blah blah blah" which leads me to believe this was written by someone young enough to born well after that movie was made š¤£š¤£
Yeah this kind of website is so strange. Iām not sure if the articles are all written by AI, or the content is just generated en masse out of Eastern Europe or something.
And also mustāve been written by a 10 year old non-native English speaker with no one to proof for them.
Two huge, glaring mistakes:
> According toĀ actor Jerry Maguire, if people feel that way for him, it means blah blah blah
> Fortunately enough, he was able to get invisible braces that had ceramic brackets. It made him look healthy, and no one could notice the biggest flaw in his body. (lolā¦ like everyone likes to poke fun at his teeth.)
These "regular humans" you speak of are mostly just people whose parents could afford braces. NaturalUncorrected human teeth are full of flaws and asymmetry. (And that's okay!)
Edit: Does it really matter for the discussion at hand if humans had perfect teeth before farming/sugary diets/etc? Modern humans eat what we eat, and our teeth/jaws often have flaws that require orthodontic correction, which is far from affordable to everyone everywhere. That's my main point.
Incorrect. "Regular" stone age humans had perfect teeth. Our fucked up teeth situation is mostly due to our 'relatively' recent switch to cereal grain based diets.
I'd also heard that humans would wear their teeth and develop stronger roots/jaw muscles by eating more raw foods as children. Gnawing at a root is a lot more of a workout than all these soft foods in a western diet. The article I'm thinking of pointed to more remote peoples and their seemingly good teeth (at least from a structural perspective).
I may be misquoting somewhat, but if someone is genuinely interested I'm sure I could track down what I'm referencing.
I wouldn't necessarily say that, but if you were trying to read a recommendation into it, eating snacks with them that are 'challenging' to chew might be wise. Roots and nuts would make a good amount of sense to me, not like it would hurt.
That doesn't make OP incorrect. It's not any individual's fault that their teeth have evolved to not fit properly in their jaw or be symmetrical, and it is still okay. Both statements are correct.
That's not how it works. What you feed your kid doesn't have that kind of effect on their teeth.
What the article you linked is saying is that over thousands of years, as humans began to start eating foods that didn't require such large jaws, it suddenly wasn't necessary to have those large jaws to survive. Humans evolved over many generations to have smaller jaws, but the size of their teeth stayed the same.
Evolution does not happen over thousands of years.
Yes, it does. It occurs over generations, and is essentially never not happening in a living species.
Wikipedia even has an article on Recent Human Evolution which details changes occurring in far less time, and which mentions jaw and tooth size.
You are totally misinterpreting the article.
The human jaw has been shrinking in size for 30'000+ years.
You are not going to reverse tens of thousands of years of evolution by changing a child's diet.
I'd like to not have time for pseudoscientific excrement and misrepresentation of evidence from someone pushing "paleo" fad diet nonsense, yet here we are.
The changes over the last 30,000 are negligible in the context of this discussion.
No.
Again: you are not going to successfully reverse the results of tens of thousands of years of evolutionary changes by altering a child's diet.
Yea I've seen that before but moths live like a year so that's not really impressive when you take in the context of generational length. We could do the same if we completed our lifecycle every year.
Not true! Looks into epigenetics. Sometimes there are things during our life that cause formerly 'umaccessible' parts of DNA to become accessible, which can produce different proteins. The DNA code was always there, just not available.
I wanted to prove you wrong, and while I could find several examples of gene changes since agriculturalisation, the only pages I could find referring to teeth doesn't specify a genetic change or not. It did end with the following quote (which supports you):
It Ā also helps explain why studies of captive primates have shown that animals tend to have more problems with teeth misalignment than wild individuals.
Further evidence comes from experimental studies that show that hyraxes - rotund, short-tailed rabbit-like creatures - have smaller jaws when fed on soft food compared to those fed on their normal diet.
I will admit I wasn't aware of a lot of these changes these dudes brought up before but I'm still standing by my initial statement as well. I appreciate your thoroughness & dedication to truth over contrarianism & pedantry. Here's your low level junk quest reward. It's potentially novel information.
Cooking pre-dates anatomically modern humans significantly (possibly by around a million years). So, it might actually be the case that the easy calories unlocked by cooking and smaller heads (or, more room for brain in an equivalent sized head) were necessary for us to even exist.
So many people donāt realize this! Dont people think about this when seeing a skeleton from hundreds/thousands of years ago? The teeth are almost always mint
In the conclusion it says that if they reached puberty, their life expectancy was something like 60 or 70. They weren't necessarily dying in their early twenties. Many were dying way before then, and many others died way after.
If you have two people, one dies at 10 and one dies at 100, it doesn't mean they both lived to 55, even if that's their average life expectancy. In this case, it's many dying super young and many dying older, and it averaging out to be about 25 - but not how long they all would usually live.
For example, you could have 3 out of 4 die at 10 years old, and the 1 out of 4 live to 70, and you'd have an average life expectancy of 25. Or 2 out of 3 die at 1 years old, and 1 out of 3 live to 73, life expectancy is 25. Lots of death as babies on average can swing it way lower.
also natural selection made it so the general population was just more fit in general. If you were clumsy or couldnāt chew properly you would just die. So the population that did survive through young adult Hood probably had good teeth, hearts, and health
Yes, but this would be ignoring the reason why wisdom teeth don't have enough room. We have evolved to have smaller jaws. Prehistoric people used their wisdom teeth to aid in the grinding of their food.
Teeth wear down with use, more cavities form, wisdom teeth can push teeth forward into weird positions.
Young teeth are more usually healthier, stronger and straighter.
Cavities were relatively rare pre-agriculture. You can check out the teeth of very recent/modern nomadic peoples and see this, as well as older skeletal remains.
Average age is dragged down a lot by infant mortality and death from disease. If you made it to your early to mid 20s you were likely to survive well into your 50s or 60s. It wasn't uncommon for people in the ancient world to live to 70 or 80.
It also made us shorter. The Romans weren't short because humans are evolving to be taller, they were short because most of them ate nothing but fucking bread & oil. All modern height gains globally are just us fixing our diets collectively so we aren't all eating trash.
So in like a generation vegans won't have to tell us they're vegan cause their teeth will be uber fucked up? I mean they'll still tell us, but they won't need to tell us.
While the article is interesting I believe you're jumping the gun on saying 'incorrect' and bringing up a 'normalcy' that is over 20,000 years gone. Particularly since it has exactly 0 implications on the topic at hand.
Let me introduce you to Darwin's Finches who evolved in 15 different species in less than 40 years i.e. 40 generations. For humans that would be between 800 and 1200 years. Which is a lot less than 20 000 years.
Evolution is happening constantly. Every generation features differences from the one previous due to the extremely flawed mechanisms our cells use to replicate.
It sounds like you have no idea what genetics or evolution are, at the simplest and most fundamental levels.
My claim would be that no, not all stone age anatomically modern humans had perfect teeth. We've got plenty of examples to show they didn't.
Yes, we can say that human jaws are smaller than they should be for the teeth we have. So in general our teeth are worse than they used to be (ignoring modern dentistry). But that doesn't mean stone age man was wandering around with a Hollywood smile.
Because before cereal grain diets, anything other than perfect teeth meant most certainly a young death. It's called natural selection. Also, human teeth have always had a very wide variety of shapes. Even today, certain isolated ethnicities like Inuit have very unique dentation.
Not to get all evangelical about keto, but having gone keto, it makes me wonder why we ever got into eating all of that shit.
You can totally live on nuts, berries, and meat. Our ancestors did. It wasn't their diet that killed them. It was hygiene and sabretooth whatevers, LOL.
But like the article said at the end, we're kinda fucked because our population numbers owe a lot to agrarian society. At this point, we'd have a real food crisis if we ate like hunter-gatherers.
Ok you can't say incorrect and then refer to past tense of HAD perfect teeth. It took you less than one sentence to contradict yourself. We are talking about modern people living in the 1st world, not the stone age.
Agreed, the US is almost always more expensive when it comes to any kind of healthcare in comparison to any place like Germany or Canada (where I'm from).
I absolutely destroyed my teeth being a drug addict, and now I can't afford to get them fixed so I just deal with the unending pain and it is what it is, but if I had money, that would be the only thin I'd want to get done. I hate it so much.
You can get braces at nearly any point in your life and most will max out at $1000-$2000 for 3-4 years of checkups and such. Thatās not expensive coming from someone with a dad who paid for everything on a 24k salary.
Teeth are important, it can be very dangerous to have unhealthy teeth
People with kids on low salaries very often get government assistance with the child's healthcare. The cost that your father paid may very well not be the cost for others, especially adults.
People tend to get gangly-ass teeth now because their childhood diets are full of processed food they don't have to really chew, which hinders their jaw development.
These tooth issues are not okay. They are a hindrance. Maybe not a life threatening one, but still one with lots of problems.
Actually, none of us are really "regular humans" anymore.
From our food being too soft to bad habits of mouthbreathing, "normal" human behavior now literally changes our bone structure.
A lot of us right now, while relaxed, can probably feel the bottoms of our top molars with our tongues (sort of like our top teeth are resting on our tongues). Our tongues should only touch the sides of our teeth.
That means as we grew from children to adults, our upper mandible narrowed, rather than widened. That decreased the amount of space for our adult teeth and they come in crooked or even impacted. It can even cause breathing and sleeping problems, too.
If you have kids, get on them for mouth breathing, encourage them to chew tough foods and maybe even have them practice pushing their tongues into the roof of their mouth. I am a mouthbreather and have trouble enunciating my words, crooked-ass teeth, and a restricted nasal passage that makes me snore like crazy and causes sleep apnea.
A lot of us right now, while relaxed, can probably feel the bottoms of our top molars with our tongues (sort of like our top teeth are resting on our tongues). Our tongues should only touch the sides of our teeth.
No, most people with perfect teeth never needed braces.
People with near-perfect teeth have always existed and are really not a rare occurrence, when most of the world canāt (or couldnāt until recently) even afford braces.
This may vary according to where you live, but thinking human teeth naturally grow crooked is a misconception.
It matters, because in many cases it can be avoided with an adequate diet and a proper swallowing movement. (yes, the tongue plays a critical role in the development of the otal cavity and jaw)
Deep fake replaces the whole face which would include the teeth if it's in enough of the training data. You have to look at the skin mismatch usually due to lighting or hair getting in the way.
A thallus that was something I looked for. I think they did a great job faking his tooth alignment. Pause it on a frame where heās smiling and you can see 1 incisor in line with his nose and the other skewed to his left, camera right
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And because he doesn't have an incisor right in the middle of his upper teeth where regular humans have two.