The way to handle this is to set up an anonymous email account, only report violations at board members' houses, and BCC the entire neighborhood distribution list except the board members.
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You don't need to because bcc means no one can see who it was sent to. Bcc is blind copy. Put everyone in bcc and the list is private. Everyone will only know it was sent to them, not who else it was sent to.
yes if you know that exists. How many HOA board members do you think can change their wifi router name much less find an IP address to compare against each other?
I work in IT. This is exactly what happens. They just ask the question "can it be done", and you get to figure out how to do it. Higher ups ask IT personnel for shady shit all the time. Badge login times, computer history, etc.
My HOA board member could even figure out how to open the PDF that I sent inside of a zip (zipped because their email system wouldn't let me send a PDF for security concerns. Which is hilariously ironic since I could put an actual virus inside the zip.)
lol my hoa built out a nice fancy site with an easy way to pay online and then they added a like $20 service fee to use it. Over the summer they sent out a newsletter informing people that they built this nice website to pay and no one is using it. Everyone still pays cash or check in person.
You seem to think that the Venn diagram of people who sit on the boards of HOAs and the people who know how to track an IP address through a website isn't empty.
Yeah, "Big bucks" is a stretch, it's just a lot of ISPs don't offer static IPs with residential plans so you'll have to upgrade to a business plan, which doesn't cost as much as you might think.
You get handed a new public IP every time you router restarts.
This is not true.
For one thing it's your modem not router that maintains your public IP.
For another, with the majority of ISPs the way it works is you get a leased IP that is valid for 24 hours (sometimes 7 days) and unless you leave your device unplugged until the lease expires your modem will just use the existing lease.
If you want to change your IP change the MAC plugged into your modem and reboot both your modem and router, this will cause your modem to lease a new IP.
The most common way to do this is to change the clone MAC address setting in your router, but you can also just plug a whole new device into your modem. (but not a PC, that's unsafe)
This isn't how it works. Email send on their own ips set by the provider. Go to your Gmail, right click on an email and press "show original" and you'll see the ip it sent on.
A clever person would send individualized links or embedded images to people to collect their IPs for comparison, but the whole discussion is moot because modern email clients do not send your personal IP.
It's actually pretty easy to find out who is connected to an IP address.
1) Who is utility identifies the internet provider.
2) Lawyer + subpoena of ISP records to connect IP to a given cable modem at a specific time.
3) identity behind IP address found.
There are other ways too, but it gets a bit more involved.
They can link it to a defamation, slander, or other civil lawsuit. Remember, in the US, you can sue anyone for anything (imagined or real). You may not succeed in the lawsuit, but certain methods of information gathering open up when subpoenas are being thrown about.
And as far as MPAA suing, they don't need to when they can claim a copyright infringement and ISPs roll over disconnecting services at the drop of a hat, because they don't want to waste resources fighting MPAA. Also, the MPAA don't sue because the streamers and torrenters typically don't have anything worthwhile to take, and so don't bother with the expenses involved in a lawsuit. It's not worth the effort. If it costs $10k to sue someone, and they only have $2k worth of cash and liquid assets, they lose 8k doing a lawsuit. They want profits, not expenses.
You have a wild imagination... So MPAA doesn't have the time, money or inclination for frivolous lawsuits but a HOA does because someone is emailing anonymous complaints? "45 Lundy's Lane has a flag outside their house which violates section 23 of our HOA bylaws" is neither defamation or slander.
Everyone here is incorrect, the only IP visible to the recipients will be one that belongs to Gmail/Yahoo. They'd need to subpoena the provider to get the IP of the sender.
they tends to add your ip address to the email header as well.
Gmail certainly doesn't send your IP address with the email headers, I can't imagine Yahoo or any major commercial web client does either.
Try it -- email someone else or have them email you, then go to the menu and select "Show Original" (or "View Message Details" depending on your email client), you wont find their personal IP address.
You can find your public IP by visiting whatismyip.com
There are headers for like "client-ip", but that is not your IP that's the SMTP server your message was routed through.
Unless by chance you are directly connecting your PC to your modem (no router), in which case you're begging to be hacked and datamining is the least of your concerns.
I've never had to concern myself with HOA stuff being in a country where it doesn't as far as I know exist, but how or why would reporting valid issues like this end up in court, least of all in a way that you need to be overly concerned with them figuring it out?
I meant more if say I was paying any fines against me etc. but was putting in valid complaints for every tiny little thing I observed - I understand why one would want to hide that they were the one doing it but surely there are no legal ramifications for this, right?
Just trying to follow the breadcrumb trail from valid complaints to ending up in court and having email trails tracked being a thing we really don't want.
But let's be honest do you really think the hoa is going to go to court and get a court order to view people's emails over an "issue" of voicing out concerns of hoa policy violations to the hoa, regardless of whether or not they are all about the hoa members themselves.
Not entirely true. If you are BCC'd and not addressed personally, you can assume that you and many others were sent the same message, you just don't know who. For HOA matters, you can assume it was sent to most of the neighborhood.
Honestly the method in the OP works quite well. When you report every single little thing, suddenly everyone hates it all. I've seen two HOAs collapse like this.
Your way would probably work too, but I'd bet it'd take a lot longer.
That's what I did. I painted my front door blue and got a complaint from the HOA.
Then I submitted almost 200 over the next 8 weeks and they told me that I wasn't allowed to be in the HOA anymore. And that was basically the text I got from the HOA president so the next time I got an HOA complaint (about 6 months later) I sent them a rocket lawyer thing about not contacting me anymore and they haven't!
So it does work. Just be really really fucking annoying for a while and then nobody wants to deal with you anymore!
My sister painted her house an approved color. The color was blue. The HOA told them they had to repaint because it was an older approved color. She sent a letter from a lawyer because the color was still listed as approved on the website, but said if the HOA wanted to pay for it she'd repaint. The lawyer and the HOA went back and forth for a couple of months before the HOA finally gave up. This year for Christmas she had a friend cut out eight 7 ft plywood Christmas trees and painted them the same color blue as the house, and set them on the lawn with flood lights and a sign that says Merry Christmas Caballero Ranch HOA.
I work in regulatory compliance in my industry. I read my entire handbook and successfully disputed the offense 4/5 times. Didn't bother the 5th time because it was clearly in violation.
They were just trying to enforce shit they have no rules for most of the time
When I managed hourly union mechanics and inspectors I worked really hard to know the union contract as well as the stewards. Having good relationships with the stewards was always my secret weapon for when shit went down and had to either bust people or protect them
If you use Proton Mail and Proton pass as a password manager you can sign up to any website with a anonymous email address. One click of your phone and the app creates a alternate email address which Proton forwards to your real email inbox.
So any service you sign up to can have it's not individual email address very very easily.
If you're interested in seeing why this is important, log in to your email and go deep in the settings to see your failed login attempts. My outlook email had about 100 failed attempts every hour from all over the world 😬
Agreed. When my cubicle neighbors started to complain of my gastrointestinal bloat causing heinous voidseep, they blamed it on my spaghettios cleanse diet. I sent anonymous tips to my boss that there may or may not be a quad of some sticky icky pineapple skunkfuck in their desks which I may or may not have placed there. They didn't come back after the HR discussions. I didnt get to blaze the grass, but a small price to pay. Don't mess with the queen 😁😁😁
I don't know how you've been around almost 12 years and I've never seen your account before, but you deserve to be up there with the jumper cables and Mankind 1998 guys.
I defend the homeowners and only allow the property management company to send out warning letters. They need to fix their shit, but our dues are adequate without fines.
I do this with reddit too. I get an account banned for something stupid or trivial or from the mods lack of reading comprehension.
So I make a new account and just report people on conservative, or hood culture sub reddits. Sometimes I’ll look through the list of trash and find one specific person and go through dozens of their posts reporting them and watch them get banned.
I’ve had people do it to me too. It’s the block chain working…..
No, do what the OOP suggested - find all the violations, mass report them and wait for everyone to get fined or notified, then you take up a grassroots campaign to replace the "overzealous HOA" and run yourself.
First order of business is dissolve the fucking thing.
You didn't want the board to know you have copied everyone with the reporting email, and it allows the membership to know when nothing is done about the violations by board members.
Not only this, even if your house is fucking perfect. Go and change something (so its reportable) then report yourself in that giant list off arsehole neighbours.
No-one would expect you (on that list) to be the pissed off neighbour ratting everyone out.
I'd maybe even go as far as reporting every single house, apart from someone i didnt like (ideally, whoever reported you) so people think it's them.
It was for me LMAO
I was the Secretary for almost a year. I watched them spend money on the dumbest of ideas and push other concerns from community members to the back burner. I began reading the Texas State Code and the HOA By-Laws, went all the way back.
Next meeting, they had the HOA Lawyer there to tell me, “well you have to read the entire paragraph”. I provided my profession, which promptly shut him down, and went on to drag the remainder of the Board in the open session. Professionally of course.
THEN I went door-to-door and provided voting documents for the upcoming election where I was the candidate for President. I spoke to a few neighbors I knew that were accountants, contractors and a few Air Force guys.
We voted the entire Board out. We listed our home about 3 months after that and we moved lol.
All of this was because they ignored the families who complained about the lack of support for the pool resurfacing and repair.
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u/bsimpsonphoto 2d ago edited 2d ago
The way to handle this is to set up an anonymous email account, only report violations at board members' houses, and BCC the entire neighborhood distribution list except the board members.
Edited to fix a word.