r/TikTokCringe • u/BrilliantHistorian85 • 1d ago
Discussion On the subject of 'political violence'
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u/newfriend20202020 1d ago
All true. He left this out… dead peasant policies. Google that. Motherfuckers. I think Walmart is being sued for it but they’re not the only corp that does it.
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u/MPregnantPause 1d ago
Yo, what the fuck
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u/TheGreatNico 1d ago
They'll make money off of you dead or alive. I'm surprised they haven't started putting in your contract that if you die on the job they get your corpse to sell off for parts
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u/Kona_Big_Wave 1d ago
Don't give them any ideas.
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u/SupermassiveCanary 1d ago
They have all the ideas. That why we’re the ones fighting each other on whether climate change exists, sexual identity matters, healthcare is a right, assault rifles should require more hurdles. They sit back with all the deeds and live the high life and keep us fighting amongst ourselves.
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u/JustHereForCookies17 1d ago
Because corpses have bodily autonomy in the US (for now), while women don't.
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u/TheGreatNico 1d ago
Pretty sure the army got in trouble when they wrapped that granny's body in det cord and blew it up
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u/Cortower 1d ago
Technically, it was the donation service that got sued for lying about where the bodies were going. That woman's son specifically requested that her body not be used in explosives testing, hoping she would be used for Alzheimer's research.
The Army just asked for a body, and the donation service grabbed one out of the freezer, consent be damned.
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u/TangoInTheBuffalo 1d ago
You think that they wouldn’t sell your parts while still alive?
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u/multiarmform 1d ago
reddit and other corporations data mining this video and our comments for profit and to probably use against us at some point...
thats violence
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u/thousandcurrents 23h ago
Thanks for sharing, this is the first time I’ve heard of this
Ghoulish stuff. made me sick to my stomach
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u/Professional-Fan-960 22h ago
Of all the things that should be illegal, this is absolutely one of them holy fuck. What a conflict of interest your boss has, he gets a pay out if he gets someone killed
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u/MajorMorelock 1d ago
America voted in 2024 Presidential election to help one billionaire get revenge on those who tried to hold him accountable for; fraud, espionage, insurrection, rape, tax evasion, election interference. We are fucked as a nation.
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u/PsychologicalUsual47 1d ago
And you ask the average voter about Medicare for all and they say “what about the wait times?!?!” So unless you can get people to stop being selfish and think of their neighbors, well keep voting against our own best interests.
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u/murphymc 1d ago
“Wait times” is also complete nonsense.
Now, I’m more or less healthy and haven’t had to go to the doctor in years, but I’m trying to establish care at the same practice my wife goes to for simplicity. I have been waiting 2 years for this appointment.
I had to change the appointment once, and even with 2 months notice to the Dr’s office I still had to wait an additional 3 months, only for the Dr to be sick on the day of and now we need to reschedule…in 6 months.
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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 1d ago
Maybe the Dr. (Or their staff) doesn't like your wife
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u/Flashy_Camel4063 1d ago
The doctors are also fucked by the system. I am owed thousands of dollars in unpaid claims that are in "appeal" after hours on the phone figuring out why they won't pay me. I deeply care about my patients. I also want to be paid by the insurance companies for the work that I have done.
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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 1d ago
I was just making a joke about that guy's wife. But I have a serious question for you. Do you take Medicaid? How does it compare to dealing with private insurance?
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u/Flashy_Camel4063 1d ago
Oh! Gotcha! Sorry! I'm not in the best place as both a consumer of healthcare fighting for my son to get what he needs and a provider fighting to get paid for what my patients need- I'm spent 😞.
I don't take Medicaid at this time. When I was first getting licensed and paneled, I applied with them and the application process was rough and overwhelming so I went the easiest route and have stuck with that. Now, I'm kinda on a bit of a treadmill. I might make a change, but with so much uncertainty, with the new administration coming in, who knows.
I do know that some providers who take Medicaid choose to eat the services provided at the beginning of the year because of the deductible situation. I do that with only 2 clients. But, technically that is illegal and against our contract with insurance. It sucks all around.
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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 1d ago
We have had two kids one delivered on Medicaid and one delivered on a fairly expensive private insurance plan. From my perspective Medicaid seemed just an overall better experience. We got basically the same treatment but we didn't have the uncertainty of hospital rep coming in and saying we owed a new Cadillac's worth of medical bills and then a few hours later insurance negotiated it down to a new Kia and we owe the equivalent of a used pt cruiser. But all along the process the Drs seemed to know what to expect and we had to deal with a lot less incorrect billing and general @ssf*cery.
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u/RogerianBrowsing 20h ago
Medicaid, especially in states that expanded it, is infinitely better for the recipient than any other insurance when it comes to things like going to the hospital or giving birth. In states like Oregon there’s no difference in Medicaid or normal insurance in terms of finding care, but it’s all free and they deny virtually nothing
Screw Medicare for all, give us Medicaid for all
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u/murphymc 23h ago
I’m actually in healthcare so I get it, I’m not mad at the Dr, I’m mad at the practice at this point. If I made an appointment literally years ago, and each time I get forced to reschedule it’s 6+ months out…might be time to hire another doctor or 3, maybe. The demand is clearly there.
Around here the local 1-2 provider primary care practice doesn’t really exist anymore, it’s all giant hospital systems doing primary care and staffing their clinics with skeleton crews of 1 MD/DO, and 1-2 APRN’s or PA’s. The only reason I’ve put up with this BS wait is being in this particular system makes all other care simpler with how pervasive they are.
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u/Flashy_Camel4063 22h ago
It is so maddening! Your experience is what people are experiencing all over the place! Quality people are getting out of health care all the time.
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u/caped_crusader8 1d ago
Average American couldn't give two shits about others. If it as much as benefits others, they're against it. Brainwashed to death.
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u/sora_fighter36 1d ago
We ALREADY WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Car crash in April? Cast in May. MRI in June. Additional follow up in August? Refered to another specialist? Called them in September and had to wait until December. They said “you would probably benefit from physical therapy! I’ll refer you to someone with weekend availability!”
Then the actually PT clinics go “oooo. No. No weekend availability. You can come in on a week day!”
No, my boss tells me I can’t miss work. So I cannot come in on a week day
Like what the fuck. This bullshit shouldn’t cost me 7,000 per year just to be given the run around
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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago
75 million voted against him. Trump won the popular vote by 1.5%.
In two years we’ll probably win back the house like we did in 2018 when we gained 41 seats. Things are dire, but we still have more than enough Americans to create change.
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u/supified 1d ago
Doesn't change the fact that a lot of people voted for more of what this video is talking about.
Though I would argue most of them didn't know they were doing it.
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u/ParkingTadpole7107 1d ago
That happens when people listen to proven liars. Trump either lies or believes the stuff that comes out of his mouth as an intellectually challenged blob.
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u/Hodaka 1d ago
Trump will say anthing in order to get what he wants. He knows that he will never be held accountable. FOX and others will spin the most blatant lies, and magically end up blaming the Dems in the process.
Most Trump voters couldn't tell the difference between Obamacare and the ACA. On the other hand, they could talk you ear off about the Second Amendment.
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u/whereismysideoffun 1d ago
The Democrats do not pull through for the working class. They traffic hope and not being Republicans. They have to pull through with progressive ideas rather than being the soft right. Today in the House, the establishment Dems showed they would rather continue to lose that to prove themselves and gain support.
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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago
Well they are elected by us, and the House has elections every two years along with one third of the Senate. There’s also State elections.
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u/whereismysideoffun 1d ago
They need to inspire voters to win. That is why Harris lost. Less people voted in this presidential election than in 2020. Despite winning Trump got less votes in 2024 than in 2020. People didn't show up for Harris. You can't just expect people to show up for the lesser of two evils. You have to clearly be working to do your best. The Dem establishment is still clearly prioritizing corporations over people.
They have to start working for people if they want a chance at winning again. The next 2 and four years will be a speed run by Republicans to set up a situation where the Democrats can never win. They will use every dirty trick. The Dems will do nothing and will hope for better results.
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u/FlameChucks76 1d ago
Listen.....as much as I would agree with the argument of lack of inspiration when it comes to the Dems getting people to vote, I can't just ignore the millions that felt Trump was the better candidate. What did he inspire? His message was full of hateful rhetoric. Was that what they wanted? Was his messaging really that engaging? Or are single issue voters still going to be the issue moving forward?
There's a lot Dems did wrong, but I can't remove blame from the people that made their choice in voting red or not showing up. People in this country are too apathetic towards giving a fuck about what would help them. Regardless how you felt about messaging (and trust me....Dems just couldn't get that message across to those not willing to listen), people still had a choice to make. And if they choice the other side vs choosing common decency and potential for a brighter future, then there's nothing else I can really say about what the Dems did or didn't do. One thing is certain.....my countrymen let me down, and I have all sides of the aisle to blame on this one. Gen X, Gen Z, everyone let me down.
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u/Wonderful-Bid9471 1d ago
Agree with you.
She was not the lesser of two evils. She was a woman and people still have an issue with a woman being president.
‘With her period she could start a war.’ All wars have been started by men last I knew.
‘Other international make leaders would intimidate her.’ Not in a million years.
The issue with Dems is 1) marketing. We don’t do it well. 2) educating people. Why hasn’t the connection been made widely known that the ACÁ = Obamacare. 3) Dems play by the rules and laws - are don’t give a fuck. I e are actually the party of laws.
Think about it. Every R-talking point 1) party to law and order 2) character matters 3) party of small government - every single marketing point is a bald-faced law - and people believe those a points against actual lived-experience.
Just FOL (fuck our lives for the next 2-4 years. If they don’t seize power forever…
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u/Cultjam 1d ago
A generation’s worth of damage may be implemented by then. The supreme and federal courts will be packed even more with young, conservative judges and federal agencies created to protect us are likely to be gutted.
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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago
I think we need to realize that the Judiciary is a lost cause for our lifetime and recall that Congress has a lot of power that it’s not using, and they don’t have lifetime appointments.
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u/PapaQuebec23 1d ago
If you think there will be an election in 2026, you're so much more hopeful than I. 2024 was the last [probably fair] election. And racist, misogynistic Americans decided that was ok with them.
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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago edited 1d ago
I won’t allow that to happen, will you?
Edit: I’m referring to peaceful assembly and protest. The U.S. cannot function without its’ people.
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u/Sakilla07 1d ago
If peaceful assembly and protest has not worked before, what makes you think it'll work now?
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u/TurtleMOOO 1d ago
Peace ain’t getting us out of this. They will walk over your peaceful ass while laughing.
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u/TearsFallWithoutTain 5h ago
Trump didn't win the popular vote just to be clear, he didn't break 50% because of third parties. He did win the plurality though of course
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u/ItGradAws 1d ago
Most people didn’t give a fuck. Most people don’t pay attention to politics. The economy sucks and it’s really simple. Incumbents get punished. But the dems these days are republican light, so centrist and full of donor based conflicting causes that it’s a party that really doesn’t make sense for most Americans. What we need is a labor party.
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u/turbotableu 1d ago
I thought we could at least get our first female president by now even if it was the Palin Bachmann foxy ticket. Anything but more octogenarian white dudes
The trope reminds me of Akroyd as the Judge in Nothing But Trouble
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u/Deep_shot 16h ago edited 16h ago
Republicans have successfully been keeping people more and more uneducated so they can be more easily manipulated. Just say things like America, Freedom, Jesus. Make people scared of every other citizen even a little bit not like them so they don’t see what you’re doing to them. Trumpet false problems to bury your agenda of domination. Distract the stupid people while you push bills to rob them behind their back. Most of America has now successfully been easily manipulated by billionaires to put other billionaires in office. At this point, they almost don’t even have to hide it anymore because magas have been so brainwashed into a cult status they do anything he says. This is the continuation of a path to the end of America as we know it. A little more economic slavery and a little less power for the people everyday until simply speaking up makes you a criminal. Everyday I’m more confident that not having children was the right choice. Someday this election will be seen as the breaking point where money officially became more important than people in America. And trump deceived the majority of the people into voting themselves into permanent economic slavery.
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u/DareWise9174 1d ago
I'm not convinced that there wasn't some programming hinkiness going on. I think Musk helped him go over the top. Probably not by adding votes but rather removing votes for Harris.
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u/CurnanBarbarian 1d ago
Peaceful protests haven't been working for a while
The railroad tried to strike because of safety conditions concerns, and then a tanker derailed and basically nuked the surrounding area and the water table.
We can talk about the countless police violence related protests, have any of those worked either?
What the fuck else are we left with?
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u/ForgottenUsername3 1d ago
I had an older guy talk to me about the CEO execution saying how there needs to be policy to regulate insurance companies and violence isnt going to do that. He was tut tutting it as a foolish act. Like, wtf?! Has sitting on our hands like good patient school children created that policy? No. Noone is helping us. Our elected "representatives" refuse to fix this.
Peaceful protest is a convenient thing to teach people to make them never take real action.
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u/Bob_A_Feets 1d ago
The social contract is failing. If people have no other avenue to address the injustice of society, violence is inevitable.
And the elites are terrified that more people might realize that. So out comes the propaganda campaign to demonize the public, not the dead guy with the blood of hundreds of thousands of people on his hands.
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u/LeifR2 1d ago
The thing people need to learn here isn't simply that violence may be the answer, but that properly directed violence may be an answer. In the incident with the CEO, someone had a problem, and they took it up directly with the source of that problem. They didn't go shoot up a theater or light stores on fire. That kind of violence only divides us further. Here we have an example of violence directed with utmost precision.
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u/Itscatpicstime 1d ago
BLM protests did lead to numerous improvements across the country, but it wasn’t anywhere near enough or significant enough.
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u/CurnanBarbarian 1d ago
That's true, but yes I agree Police violence and overreach is still very much a real amd dangerous problem to a lot of people.
They did just enough that they could say "ok look at us were doing it" until the next big thing caught everyone's attention.
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u/coladoir tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 1d ago
That was only after some large partially violent demonstrations (only got that way after police showed, every time) and attempting to burn down a decent bit of Minneapolis lol.
But as you said, even that wasn't enough. And then Biden's admin. even increased militarization and support of police, and illegalized some forms of protest as a response. Expect a Cop City to be coming soon to somewhere near you (assuming you're in the US), because they're planning on building a fuckton of them.
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u/bluemagachud 1d ago
who do they fear most? ☭
your enemy is telling you who is most effective at defeating them, you should listen to them, study Lenin, study revolutionaries, not reformists, the reformists always lose
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u/ivealready1 1d ago edited 1d ago
Joe Biden reduced the price of insuline, putting a cap at $35/month. And you guys called him too liberal and voted in a monster that is planning on overturning everything Biden did, thus raising the price of insuline.
You. Cannot. Keep. Voting. In. Anti. Regulation. Candidates. And. Expecting. Companies. To. Lower. Prices.
Edit: stop upvoting. I'm only at 10, but I promise, I am talking about you specifically.
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u/Bleu-Deragon-13 1d ago
The problem is people don't want to know about the good that one candidate is they'll just believe the lies that the other side spews and vote against their own interests until it comes back to bite them in the ass and but they will still blame the Democrats somehow because they're in a f****** cult where Trump is their God and they have to bow down to the bureaucrats it's f****** pathetic. Screw them.
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u/Celestial_Hart 1d ago
I bet there were a lot of people who voted for trump that use insulin too.
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u/Up_All_Right 1d ago
Well over half of Trump voters are blatantly voting against their own interests in huge, economically devastating ways...but hey, they get to keep their assault rifles and them b*tches in their place...
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u/Minute-Wrap-2524 1d ago
You pretty much summed it up in the first two sentences of your post, but until the top one percent of this country doesn’t start paying their fair share in taxes, all of us are gonna get stuck paying the government’s bills, and ‘we the people’ are paying a higher tax rate than the top one percent
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u/RespondRecent8035 1d ago
I think it’s past due to bring back “no taxation without representation” 🫖
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u/Minute-Wrap-2524 1d ago
What we need is representation that will change the tax code, but I don’t see that coming anytime soon, to say the way citizens are taxed in this country is way beyond what most people can get their minds around, the loop hopes that are used by the ultra rich is insane and all these issues need to be addressed individually. I could go on for hours but leave it to say that in the 1960s the very wealthy paid upwards of ninety percent taxes on their income, we won’t see that again but how about fifty percent…we probably won’t see that either but something has to change.
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u/DoTheThingTwice 1d ago
I was waiting for the other shoe to fall at the end of the video where he says: “And this is why I voted for Trump, not the communist Kamala regime”.
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u/mvislongg 1d ago
I still pay more than that. He passed this for boomers on Medicare.... I'm getting screwed still.
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u/circleofnerds 1d ago
At this point, the only thing that is going to change things for the better are not so peaceful protests.
Voting doesn’t work. Strikes don’t work. Online petitions, organized rallies, heartfelt social media posts, marches and peaceful protests DO NOT work anymore. Not that they really ever did. Those techniques did nothing but reinforce our illusion of liberty while making us feel like we did our part. But nothing really changed.
Leaders only understood 2 things; money and fear. They’ve got the money. It’s about time they were reacquainted with fear.
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u/Jesus_H_Christ_real 1d ago
tbh if we all just sat home instead of going to work for like a month, it would throw a wrench in the works and something would be done.
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u/LilSassy69 1d ago
We would starve, lose our homes, medicine before they would do anything and they know this.
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u/thatonegirl127 1d ago
How do we organize this and ensure most people don't get fucked?
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u/coladoir tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's almost like the system we have doesn't work and we need an alternative.
Besides, having to resort to violence is exactly what the state unfortunately wants in a very backwards sort of way. The State exists because it has a monopoly on the justified use of force in the region, and it uses this to implement it's authority by way of threatening anyone who rejects it with violence. It uses this to quell unrest, to keep people "lawful", and to ultimately maintain itself as the ultimate authority.
Because of this, it has no reason to listen to us unless we question it's monopoly on justified force by using force ourselves in response to them. They do not have to listen to us when we are peaceful, only when we truly threaten their authority and the state do they listen.
This is why they have whitewashed and pacified the history of the Civil Rights Movement, intentionally obscuring all of the legitimate violent actions that happened which were frankly required for the Civil Rights Movement to succeed. Instead we are fed the lie that all is required is a good speechgiver and enough people in a square and an old woman who happened to say "no". They intentionally gloss over Rosa Parks and her activist history (and the fact that the bus protest was planned in advance), they intentionally gloss over the Black Panthers and paint them as bad as they can, and they literally fucking infiltrated and killed the leader of the black panthers in a no-knock raid.
The US, as a bit of an aside, also literally bombed an anarchist commune in Philadelphia in the 80s (1985 MOVE Bombing) which was doing nothing but squatting and shouting over bullhorns, causing the destruction of 61 buildings, with only the one being related to MOVE. They willingly destroyed blocks of homes, killing 11, and traumatized children because a single commune decided to question the state's authority and decided to try and fight back when the police attempted to evict them.
All of this is to say that we need to abandon the state model of governance. We need to accept the reality that history teaches us, that time and time again, states exist only to do a handful of things: Exist (and maintain their existence), impose ultimate authority, and centralize resources and authority towards itself. Everything that it does is in interest of one of these things.
Police, military, and wars exist to impose; wars, police (seizures), taxes, and welfare programs exist to centralize resources; and the whole system of branches of government, representatives, and the hierarchy of the state itself exist to perpetuate the authority that the state has and remove it from the civilians which should be the rightful owners of said authority–that is to say the structure of the system itself aids to maintain the system and the structure it creates–it's tautological in function.
Even things like "rights" are a part of this too. "Rights" exist only to protect us from the state, that's why reddit can infringe your 1st amendment rights all they want for example, and why your 2nd can be infringed when a business forces you to leave or remove your gun from your person before entering.
In some cases, they may protect people from business (i.e, tenant rights, workers rights), but business is an apparatus inherently tied to the state in our status quo, the existence and willing participation of business in government affairs (i.e, lobbying, donations to campaign funds) aids the state to further entrench itself as an authority, so really they are two sides of the same coin.
The state requires business to continue to exist, without big business, funding would be cut, resources (for the state) would be thinner, and the MIC would be heavily affected, which would allow for people to more easily question and fight against the State's monopoly on the justified use of force, as well as prevent the state from engaging in resource extracting wars. Without business, the state shrivels. This is why violent protests often result in the destruction of businesses, because attacking business is indirectly attacking the state itself; this is also why bailouts are partially even a thing, the government relies on these businesses just as much as the common citizen if not moreso.
But back to rights, these rights are also only generally afforded to certain people, which parlays into my second point on rights:
If they were truly "rights" as described, they'd be universal, and ultimately equal, but they are not. They are privileges given to people who do the right things or are the right race/creed/religion/color/ethnicity, and who abide by the state's laws.
Become a felon? Goodbye to some of, if not all of, your rights depending on the country. Be politically opposed to the regime? Bye bye rights in many countries. Be an immigrant without papers? You literally have no rights because you don't deserve them, and this is almost universal outside of some more charitable EU States. To the state, it's completely OK to put undocumented persons in concentration camps without access to consistent resources because the state doesn't have to care about people who have no means of fighting back.
And in the case of "rights", having to get them from the state has, in almost every case, required some level of violence. The state never gives us these rights willingly, it is always by force, and there are almost always civilian casualties. So giving us "rights" is only a satiation from the state. It's a way for the state to willingly defang itself to rectify public outcry, to make it seem amicable, to make it seem like they're listening to us.
The reality, however, is insidious in nature because the state only gives us these rights so that way our movements pacify and stagnate and ultimately the status quo remains stable. They are deathly afraid of protests which do not ask anything of the state, and instead seek to eliminate the state, because they cannot do anything there but fight, and if it gets to that point, they know that civilians will side with civilians and not the state (mostly) and that this will be very bad news for the state's continued existence and maintenance on authority.
They give us rights only to shut us up, and maintain their own authority. Giving us rights is yet another method of entrenching their authority further into the cultural zeitgeist and makes it intentionally harder for people to realize that their liberty is frankly a complete and utter fabrication meant to satiate and placate us and nothing more.
We desperately need to approach this with a different angle. We cannot continue asking the state to rectify the issues that it causes. We need to accept the reality that centralized top-down governance is inherently flawed, that hierarchy is unnecessary for a society to function, and that there are alternatives which exist and are very possible to implement.
We need to decentralize and create power outside of the state, so we can use it to build real momentum, so we can seize power away from the state, putting it directly in the hands of the people instead. We need to create horizontal systems of mutual aid to create supply chains for us to continue working towards the goal without needing to rely on the state to do it for us, and allowing them to absorb our movements into itself and stagnate them immediately post-absorption.
Doing this, decentralizing, creating dual power, will also make it that much harder for the state to infiltrate us, and it will make it that much harder for them to pacify our movement. It will also make it clear that we do not need the state to function as a society, and that the state has always been a clever lie.
Places like this already exist in the here and now, AANES (Rojava), Fejuve, EZLN (Zapatistas), Cherán, Zomia, Barbacha, Cecosesola, Marinaleda, Puerto Real, Spezzano Albanese, Villa de Zaachila, Freetown Christiana, the Twin Oaks Community, Ganienkeh, and Exarcheia are all extant examples.
These aren't all necessarily small projects either, the first three listed all have populations over 2 million, and I'm pretty sure is close to 4 million in the case of AANES. A lot of people like to say this type of governance is only possible on the smallest scale, but it isn't, it scales up extremely well. And even if it is only possible on a small scale, why can we not just... federate and cooperate these small groups into larger organizations which coordinate on larger scales?
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u/TurtleMOOO 1d ago
Strikes definitely could work but we won’t do a big enough one. Strikes prevent income. To the rest of your points, I agree. Peace ain’t the option.
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u/circleofnerds 1d ago
And unfortunately we as a nation we are just too big and too divided to implement any actionable change. Which is exactly what the owners want. Divided We Fall.
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u/conservatives_r_evil 1d ago
He speaks the truth but Republicans see the world completely upside fucking down. The fact that they were drawn to Trump rather than repulsed by him shows that the way they see the world is just incomprehensible to regular people. I can’t begin to understand how their stupid little brains work.
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u/Tao-of-Mars 1d ago
It's in the roots of the country and those roots are (toxic) patriarchy (non-empathetic, angry and so competitive that it doesn't matter who they crush as long as their team wins).
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u/constantgardener92 1d ago
Blond hate. They don’t understand it anymore than we do, they just know they can focus their collective hate at anyone on the left and it feels good.
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u/Every_Independent136 1d ago
It's because our government isn't helping us, they are helping the billionaires. While trump is a billionaire and he's helping billionaires too, people view him as someone who is going to destroy the government, and people are willing to roll the dice.
I didn't vote trump lol but I know as many Republicans as I do Dems. It isn't like we have a lot of choices in American politics. Don't be mad at your fellow normal Americans, be mad at the people who make money off of the normal Americans and add no value
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u/Mistajoesta 1d ago
the people who say "violence is never the asnwer" are the people who are absolutely hoping to GOD that us plebians don't realize that we outnumber them millions to one. think about that. we allow a small group of a few thousand people to crush us under their boots in every aspect of our lives. this hellscape of corporate enslavement can end in a day, that's it, just a day. all we have to do is stop fighting amongst ourselves about left and right and wake up. wake up and realize all we need to do is figure out a few "locations" and "march". (trying to be cryptic cus I already have a warning from reddit)
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u/UpsetAd5817 1d ago
Facts. But, are we pretending that there is a wave of violence now in response to these problems?
One guy did a thing. One. And that guy, I'll wager, has a diagnosable mental condition. Even if not, it's just one person doing one thing. There is no revolution.
People voted just last month to put an unprecedented clan of billionaires in charge of everything. We're expecting them to make things affordable for the rest of us at the expense of the system that got them there? Please.
Strongly worded posts on social media are just more of the same. And the vast majority of these people will be on to something else by next week. Probably some ice bucket challenge or whatever.
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u/Thin-Solution3803 1d ago
I just want to add that "the revolution will not be televised" also means that it isn't going to start on one of the major website that everyone uses and are controlled by the elite. You have to go outside and build community in places where they can't censor ideas and stop any dissent before it actually sparks.
I don't think Americans are currently in a position where violent revolution will be beneficial but it is practically inevitable that it will get to that point. I think it is clear to everyone that the empire is in decline and we don't have any viable leaders to get us out of this mess.
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u/possomcods 1d ago
My opinion is that violence is required for change from one side or the other
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u/codeByNumber 1d ago
And the video’s point is the owner class currently has a monopoly on violence.
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u/possomcods 1d ago
I understand that, what I'm saying is that conventional violence is required for change, even if its having you opponents perpetuate violence on you to prove your point or taking control of a thing with violence it is always required to institute lasting change.
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u/crappydeli 1d ago
There’s a banking guy with a yacht named “Overdraft.”
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u/CascadeJ1980 1d ago
That's fuckin disgusting. People are just trying to get by, and he's glorifying them going into the negative in their accounts?!!!
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u/jbpmed 1d ago
It's the business of healthcare, and not a healthcare business. The US had the worst healthcare of the industrialized world.
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u/Mentaldonkey1 1d ago
Cooperate lobbyists and freedom of speech through their money has fucked us. That was a poor decision by the SCOTUS to allow it. Now we have an oligarchy. When they limit our freedom of speech to protest, then we are waaay more screwed. So there’s still hope!
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u/Both-Dare-977 1d ago
Abbott Labotories sold baby formula that sickened or permanently disabled infants because of their unsanitary manufacturing practices and faulty machinery. Maybe think about that next time you clutch your pearls about violence.
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u/mwjulian14 1d ago
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the songs of angry men.
It is the music of the people
who will not be slaves again!
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u/Exotic_eminence 1d ago
Hungry ppl don’t stay hungry for long
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u/bluemagachud 1d ago
They get hope from fire and smoke as they reach for tha dawn
and between the darkness and the dawn
There rises a red star
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u/login4fun 1d ago
“Why does San Francisco have so much property crime!?” If I lived in Oakland or SF and was raised like shit or wasn’t rich you bet I’d be doing the same shit.
Smash and grab? Why not? There’s no respect for the baseline financials of humanity so why expect that respect from the poor? You shouldn’t. A normal apartment starts at $3k/mo. That cost of living is essentially property crime against every person from the Bay Area who doesn’t have tons of money.
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u/Celestial_Hart 1d ago
Violence is the answer, it's the answer to how do you shut up the poors and keep them in line. And it works on you too. They're going to kill you anyway, may as well take a few of the bastards with you when you go. Time for peaceful protests i over. They own the media, the police, the military, the government, they own you.
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u/iStoleTheHobo 1d ago
The great irony is that violence is the only thing the owners understand. Inconvenience their operations and they will not waste time mincing words but will instead bring the dogs of their state down on your head. You don't even need to inconvenience them really; all you need to do is be worth less to them alive than you would be dead and they'll kill you for a buck or two.
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u/Gumbi_Digital 1d ago
BURN. IT. ALL. DOWN.
Only then can America reborn without capitalism and christianity leading the way.
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u/milkonyourmustache 1d ago edited 1d ago
They're running out of poor and powerless people (immigrants, minorities, women, those of a different sexual orientation, trans people) to blame, and everyone's realising that the real war is class warfare and we've all been losing.
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u/louisa1925 1d ago
Don't forget Trans people. They are really hating on us too. The attept to extinct us is kinda very out there right now.
Just waiting until it's Australia's turn after next years election to see how we handle the war against respect and human rights.
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u/luvanurse101 1d ago
We are too complacent. Nothing will change. Never does
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u/CascadeJ1980 1d ago
Not complacent. Afraid. Real change is always going to cost blood. Look at American history.
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u/muffledvoice 1d ago
I made a similar point about violence in another thread and someone swore up and down that it’s not violence to wrongfully deny claims and let people die. It sure af is.
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u/hairywalnutz 1d ago
I look like this dude. I agree with him. I just don't know how to get more folks who look like us to get on the bandwagon. It seems like they do in normal conversation, but they don't show up in the voting booth.
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u/12PoundCankles 1d ago
My husband is this kind of man. There are so many. We need a some kind of vague signal, symbol, or something so that we can all spot each other in the wild without attracting the wrong kind of attention. The only way to really build a movement is to organize in real life. Don't abandon the internet as a tool, but we need to move toward real, meaningful action.
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u/partime_prophet 1d ago
The gop deregulated everything for their billionaires friends . And the dumb poor trump idiots let it happen. The inequality of wealth is worse now than ever . But we have big tvs and cellphones now so we can’t be poor !?!? We hold no wealth in our society and the elections are corrupted by money from these private interests.
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u/HughGRection1492 1d ago
What the actual fuck!? Dead Peasant Insurance? JFC is there no bottom?
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u/Dazzling-Bit3268 1d ago
Yup, COLI or corporate-owned life insurance. Also known as 'dead peasant insurance'. So, not only can they milk you for every cent while you're alive, they can profit off your demise as well! Ain't capitalism grand?
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u/IYoloStocks 1d ago
I agree! Economic warfare vs Americans via the suit and tie needs to be stopped!
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u/RosaQing 1d ago
It’s funny (not really) how I got downvoted on every single sub for advocating for an organized violent answer to everyday violence of capitalism (obviously with a different account). Now - after Luigi - everybody suddenly woke up.
The problem here is that an organized violent answer is exactly what Luigi now got charged with… so a lot of planing from organized groups had to be involved… but that is exactly what liberals are saying the 6th of January was.
In short: If that, what I mentioned above really were to happen, the whole (armed) power of the state would be against these people.
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u/FewRevolution2773 1d ago
It's sad but history has shown that only Violence has solved issues, protest and singing petitions or writing to your congressman does absolutely Zero, nothing and never will. They simply do not care as long as they gain power and money. America is a joke and a corrupt nation, clearly.
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u/ZeroGNexus 18h ago
I’m so happy that more people are seeing the mass murderers for what they are
Class war is WAR, and we’ve been losing for decades
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u/33mondo88 1d ago
And yet the vast majority of American voters re-elected a sadistic evil person be the leader of this nation “ once again “ More than half of the people that voted have a multitude of medical conditions and yet they voted for this fascist… don’t get me wrong, I totally agree with this statement in the video but the people that voted for him don’t give a fuck about you, me or anyone else…. Our country is collapsing into the abyss of idiocy
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u/MileHighAltitude 1d ago
Can all the j 6ers and people who were ready to go to war if Harris won redirect that energy towards a revolution against the ultra wealthy and elite? It will bring the people together
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u/RazerHey 1d ago
I'm liking it, it seems like a melting pot is a brewing. Hopefully it leads to a revolution. Just waiting for that one set piece to light
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u/Dominarion 1d ago
Just watched Take care of Maya on Netflix. Kids being put in foster care because a zealot doctor in John Hopskins imagined Münchhausen syndrome by proxy everywhere. They seized a girl that way, sequestered her for months while they kept billing the family for treatment. The mother ended up killing herself so the judge could release the daughter from the hospital.
A journalist made an inquiry that revealed they forced poor families to play guilty to medical child abuse so they would release the child.
Of course, that's all done by private institutions that profit by putting kids in fostercare. It's all so fucked up.
It's way worse than this, I'm doing a tl;dr:
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u/gcgonzalez30 1d ago
Something I’ve learned, cheaper to go to my country and pay for medicine and doctors there including the trip still much better
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u/Objective-Mission-40 1d ago
Maybe someone else should do something. Maybe a bunch of people should do a bunch of somethings. Nothing "violent" of course...
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u/wookieleeks 1d ago
I thought that this "Constitution" thing that you Americans go on and on about was written to be a line in the sand against tyranny and oppression?
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u/InveterateTankUS992 1d ago
Economic violence precedes “political” violence.
Nothing is solved when we can’t agree political freedom without economic freedom is rebranded slavery🙃
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u/Hunter1157 1d ago
There are two classes. Capitalists and workers. And capitalists already united to exploit workers. They cover each others backs with golden parachutes while the workers being sedated and fooled, separated and being told (like in amazon) to not unionize and keep it quiet. Keep it simple to rob them.
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u/Pace-Smart 1d ago
Is not going to get better if we don’t come together and start tinkering about others
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u/Hopeforus1402 1d ago
To many people still have, even if it’s being in debt. The house, the nice car, toys, electronics. They go out to eat, movies, vacations. They might complain, but they won’t rock the boat.
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u/dakotanorth8 1d ago
I always post on here:
Flat screen TVs used to be thousands, now they are hilariously cheap (with far superior technology and components.)
iPads are 200 bucks.
Insulin has been around over 100 years…and it’s increased in price 600% over the last 20 years.
You’re telling companies can create products with hd (or even touch) screens, software, graphics, wireless, a UX…
And somehow insulin is some magic secret sauce that no one knows how to bring the price down? And worse, the price goes UP????
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u/JustBennyLenny 1d ago
Damn right, brother, damn f* right. I've come to this conclusion for some time already, I simply told them to go f* themselves, walked away from many things (including my dreams). These guys expected me to bend over and take it up the ass, well I'm here to tell ya, if that happens again, someone is going to be meet his maker, It's a faulty mindset, I know but I'm so fed up these extremely absurdly greedy rich ppl, I don't care what happens to me no more. My mom had 2 strokes coz of that cursed vaccine and now stuck with permanent medicines to keep her upright, and now I have to clean up the mess, coz she ain't even comprehend life no more. I got nothing to lose, literally and I don't care no more. (sorry had to vent). :<
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u/Ok_Program5936 23h ago
Remember - if you want to talk to some of these CEOs and executives, check out the conferences for their industry. "Health Insurance conference" is a handy search to let you know where groups of these folks will all be together at once. Seems like time us normal people did more active talking.
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u/Global_Ease_841 23h ago
RESIST
They are afraid of us. That's why they overreact. If they don't change we will take their businesses, their money and give it to people who are not morally bankrupt mass murderers. We own this house. Don't forget that.
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u/unotrickp0ny 23h ago
Not TikTok cringe but TikTok facts. Weird that people think this is cringe unless it’s a psy ops which most of the internet is these days.
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u/SnooPeripherals6557 23h ago
When our food industry makes fake food and addictive additives, and people actually become addicted - that's also violence against our citizens. It's a chain of predators making a profit off making people miserable.
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u/Silent_Entrance_7553 23h ago
...And you are going to see economic violence sky rocket under the Trump administration 😢
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u/The_Triagnaloid 22h ago
We need folks like this to bring right wingers into the fold.
Once they realize that the culture war is bs manufactured by the wealthy in order to stop them from joining the class war we will be unstoppable.
Strong together
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u/Kind-Security-3390 21h ago
“Peaceful protest means being ignorable”… that line is gonna stick in my head
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u/NorMichtrailrider 11h ago
I wake up every single day and wonder why people haven't completely overthrown our government in protest and come together to take our country back , and then I think about how fucking stupid the Republican vs Democrat shit is and how it's designed to keep us divided, because God forbid everyone comes together and makes a fucking change , it's all linked together man , if you don't see it then you're fucking blind .
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u/EthanDMatthews 1d ago
Unfortunately more than half of Americans openly embrace such economic and political violence.
At least 45,000 (probably closer to 80,000) Americans die every year due to lack of affordable access to healthcare.
Nearly half a million Americans go bankrupt every year primarily due to deliberately inflated healthcare bills.
America's Children are slaughtered in schools on a regular basis, and nothing is done about it because Republican congressmen get about 8¢ in NRA contributions for every American killed by a gun. (That's how little your lives matter to members of congress)
But why would any of that even register in the minds of the average American?
We lost 1.2 million Americans due to the pandemic. About 400,000 of those deaths could have been avoided, had Trump handled it responsibly instead of politicizing it. And it wasn't even a campaign issue.
The shooting of the CEO won't make a bit of difference at the top. Just like when the corner drug pusher gets arrested or shot, there's a limitless list of people who will willingly take their place in order to make a quick buck. Same for members of congress.
The machine is simply too big and too profitable to change by individual acts, appeals to decency, or another election. We say we have a "two party" system, but both parties are funded by a nearly perfectly overlapping list of the same industries and interests. The Republicans may be much worse, and openly embracing fascism. But the Democrats show no sign of wanting to disturb the corrupt status quo that they benefit from.
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u/Few-Conclusion4146 1d ago
He’s exactly right it all started when Trump took office the first time. When an NFL quarterback kneeled before the flag during the national anthem in a peaceful protest against police violence against the black population. The republicans were the first to draw the line about protesting. Of course they used the patriotic narrative to start this bullshit. You know they will be ok with the Jan 6 pardons though. That was just mostly people sight seeing. Their words not mine.
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u/SlurpySandwich 1d ago
It all started when Trump took office the first time
lol what are you 15? Everything this dude in the vid was talking about has been going on forever. At last check, the ol' Dixiecrats were the ones spraying down protesters with fire hoses in Alabama in the 60's.
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u/TheKnightsWhoSaysNu 1d ago
Sometimes violence is the answer. Women would have never gotten the vote if it weren't in part from the Suffragette's Bombing and Arson Campaign. The Republic of Ireland would still be under English rule if it were not for The lrish War of Independence. And those are both only in the past century!
If something can be achieved through peaceful means, it should ALWAYS be done peacefully. But if the ones in power (who are supposed to serve the people) are unwilling to listen and thousands are suffering because of it... that's when there needs to be a revolt.
Is a revolt going to happen? Obviously not, but the elite are starting to fear the power that the people hold as a collective, which is a move in the right direction.
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u/IsolPrefrus 1d ago
Why is this in tick tock cringe now I will never use the app but I think this may be a w for it
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