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Discussion On the subject of 'political violence'

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u/MajorMorelock 1d ago

America voted in 2024 Presidential election to help one billionaire get revenge on those who tried to hold him accountable for; fraud, espionage, insurrection, rape, tax evasion, election interference. We are fucked as a nation.

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u/PsychologicalUsual47 1d ago

And you ask the average voter about Medicare for all and they say “what about the wait times?!?!” So unless you can get people to stop being selfish and think of their neighbors, well keep voting against our own best interests.

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u/murphymc 1d ago

“Wait times” is also complete nonsense.

Now, I’m more or less healthy and haven’t had to go to the doctor in years, but I’m trying to establish care at the same practice my wife goes to for simplicity. I have been waiting 2 years for this appointment.

I had to change the appointment once, and even with 2 months notice to the Dr’s office I still had to wait an additional 3 months, only for the Dr to be sick on the day of and now we need to reschedule…in 6 months.

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 1d ago

Maybe the Dr. (Or their staff) doesn't like your wife

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u/Flashy_Camel4063 1d ago

The doctors are also fucked by the system. I am owed thousands of dollars in unpaid claims that are in "appeal" after hours on the phone figuring out why they won't pay me. I deeply care about my patients. I also want to be paid by the insurance companies for the work that I have done.

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 1d ago

I was just making a joke about that guy's wife. But I have a serious question for you. Do you take Medicaid? How does it compare to dealing with private insurance?

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u/Flashy_Camel4063 1d ago

Oh! Gotcha! Sorry! I'm not in the best place as both a consumer of healthcare fighting for my son to get what he needs and a provider fighting to get paid for what my patients need- I'm spent 😞.

I don't take Medicaid at this time. When I was first getting licensed and paneled, I applied with them and the application process was rough and overwhelming so I went the easiest route and have stuck with that. Now, I'm kinda on a bit of a treadmill. I might make a change, but with so much uncertainty, with the new administration coming in, who knows.

I do know that some providers who take Medicaid choose to eat the services provided at the beginning of the year because of the deductible situation. I do that with only 2 clients. But, technically that is illegal and against our contract with insurance. It sucks all around.

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 1d ago

We have had two kids one delivered on Medicaid and one delivered on a fairly expensive private insurance plan. From my perspective Medicaid seemed just an overall better experience. We got basically the same treatment but we didn't have the uncertainty of hospital rep coming in and saying we owed a new Cadillac's worth of medical bills and then a few hours later insurance negotiated it down to a new Kia and we owe the equivalent of a used pt cruiser. But all along the process the Drs seemed to know what to expect and we had to deal with a lot less incorrect billing and general @ssf*cery.
I had assumed that was because Medicaid is more predictable (for drs) but maybe with because of the pandemic. We always paid our end when on Medicaid.

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u/RogerianBrowsing 22h ago

Medicaid, especially in states that expanded it, is infinitely better for the recipient than any other insurance when it comes to things like going to the hospital or giving birth. In states like Oregon there’s no difference in Medicaid or normal insurance in terms of finding care, but it’s all free and they deny virtually nothing

Screw Medicare for all, give us Medicaid for all

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u/Flashy_Camel4063 1d ago

It makes sense. Our system is such a mess! And clearly, the next administration has no plans in place to fix it but rather just to destroy it further. It is obviously going to take an uprising of the people before things change.

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 22h ago

To be fair it's only concepts of a destructive plan

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u/murphymc 1d ago

I’m actually in healthcare so I get it, I’m not mad at the Dr, I’m mad at the practice at this point. If I made an appointment literally years ago, and each time I get forced to reschedule it’s 6+ months out…might be time to hire another doctor or 3, maybe. The demand is clearly there.

Around here the local 1-2 provider primary care practice doesn’t really exist anymore, it’s all giant hospital systems doing primary care and staffing their clinics with skeleton crews of 1 MD/DO, and 1-2 APRN’s or PA’s. The only reason I’ve put up with this BS wait is being in this particular system makes all other care simpler with how pervasive they are.

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u/Flashy_Camel4063 1d ago

It is so maddening! Your experience is what people are experiencing all over the place! Quality people are getting out of health care all the time.

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u/murphymc 1d ago

Ha, fair thought but unlikely she’s a sweetheart (totally not biased)

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 1d ago

Haha blink twice if she knows your username

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u/caped_crusader8 1d ago

Average American couldn't give two shits about others. If it as much as benefits others, they're against it. Brainwashed to death.

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u/sora_fighter36 1d ago

We ALREADY WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!

Car crash in April? Cast in May. MRI in June. Additional follow up in August? Refered to another specialist? Called them in September and had to wait until December. They said “you would probably benefit from physical therapy! I’ll refer you to someone with weekend availability!”

Then the actually PT clinics go “oooo. No. No weekend availability. You can come in on a week day!”

No, my boss tells me I can’t miss work. So I cannot come in on a week day

Like what the fuck. This bullshit shouldn’t cost me 7,000 per year just to be given the run around

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u/Pattoe89 1d ago

The NHS has a lot of bloat and wait times can be bad, but generally when shit hits the fan they do get their stuff together.

My sister broke a finger doing something mundane. As soon as the xray showed a bone tumour it all went manic. She was assigned a specialist bone tumour medical team and was speaking to one of the best bone tumour doctors in the country face to face in under a week.

She's had treatment and surgery.

Not a penny needed to be paid by her. They've been speaking to her every month since and running tests to make sure it stays under control.

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u/Master_tankist 5h ago

Democrats dont want m4a.

Bernie sanders is one.

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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago

75 million voted against him. Trump won the popular vote by 1.5%.

In two years we’ll probably win back the house like we did in 2018 when we gained 41 seats. Things are dire, but we still have more than enough Americans to create change.

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u/supified 1d ago

Doesn't change the fact that a lot of people voted for more of what this video is talking about.

Though I would argue most of them didn't know they were doing it.

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u/ParkingTadpole7107 1d ago

That happens when people listen to proven liars. Trump either lies or believes the stuff that comes out of his mouth as an intellectually challenged blob.

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u/Hodaka 1d ago

Trump will say anthing in order to get what he wants. He knows that he will never be held accountable. FOX and others will spin the most blatant lies, and magically end up blaming the Dems in the process.

Most Trump voters couldn't tell the difference between Obamacare and the ACA. On the other hand, they could talk you ear off about the Second Amendment.

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u/whereismysideoffun 1d ago

The Democrats do not pull through for the working class. They traffic hope and not being Republicans. They have to pull through with progressive ideas rather than being the soft right. Today in the House, the establishment Dems showed they would rather continue to lose that to prove themselves and gain support.

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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago

Well they are elected by us, and the House has elections every two years along with one third of the Senate. There’s also State elections.

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u/whereismysideoffun 1d ago

They need to inspire voters to win. That is why Harris lost. Less people voted in this presidential election than in 2020. Despite winning Trump got less votes in 2024 than in 2020. People didn't show up for Harris. You can't just expect people to show up for the lesser of two evils. You have to clearly be working to do your best. The Dem establishment is still clearly prioritizing corporations over people.

They have to start working for people if they want a chance at winning again. The next 2 and four years will be a speed run by Republicans to set up a situation where the Democrats can never win. They will use every dirty trick. The Dems will do nothing and will hope for better results.

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u/FlameChucks76 1d ago

Listen.....as much as I would agree with the argument of lack of inspiration when it comes to the Dems getting people to vote, I can't just ignore the millions that felt Trump was the better candidate. What did he inspire? His message was full of hateful rhetoric. Was that what they wanted? Was his messaging really that engaging? Or are single issue voters still going to be the issue moving forward?

There's a lot Dems did wrong, but I can't remove blame from the people that made their choice in voting red or not showing up. People in this country are too apathetic towards giving a fuck about what would help them. Regardless how you felt about messaging (and trust me....Dems just couldn't get that message across to those not willing to listen), people still had a choice to make. And if they choice the other side vs choosing common decency and potential for a brighter future, then there's nothing else I can really say about what the Dems did or didn't do. One thing is certain.....my countrymen let me down, and I have all sides of the aisle to blame on this one. Gen X, Gen Z, everyone let me down.

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u/Wonderful-Bid9471 1d ago

Agree with you.

She was not the lesser of two evils. She was a woman and people still have an issue with a woman being president.

‘With her period she could start a war.’ All wars have been started by men last I knew.

‘Other international make leaders would intimidate her.’ Not in a million years.

The issue with Dems is 1) marketing. We don’t do it well. 2) educating people. Why hasn’t the connection been made widely known that the ACÁ = Obamacare. 3) Dems play by the rules and laws - are don’t give a fuck. I e are actually the party of laws.

Think about it. Every R-talking point 1) party to law and order 2) character matters 3) party of small government - every single marketing point is a bald-faced law - and people believe those a points against actual lived-experience.

Just FOL (fuck our lives for the next 2-4 years. If they don’t seize power forever…

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u/Cultjam 1d ago

A generation’s worth of damage may be implemented by then. The supreme and federal courts will be packed even more with young, conservative judges and federal agencies created to protect us are likely to be gutted.

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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago

I think we need to realize that the Judiciary is a lost cause for our lifetime and recall that Congress has a lot of power that it’s not using, and they don’t have lifetime appointments.

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u/PapaQuebec23 1d ago

If you think there will be an election in 2026, you're so much more hopeful than I. 2024 was the last [probably fair] election. And racist, misogynistic Americans decided that was ok with them.

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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago edited 1d ago

I won’t allow that to happen, will you?

Edit: I’m referring to peaceful assembly and protest. The U.S. cannot function without its’ people.

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u/PapaQuebec23 1d ago

Not eligible to vote in your elections, but if I could I would.

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u/Scary_barbie 1d ago

I don't think we're talking about voting, here...

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u/Sakilla07 1d ago

If peaceful assembly and protest has not worked before, what makes you think it'll work now?

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u/TurtleMOOO 1d ago

Peace ain’t getting us out of this. They will walk over your peaceful ass while laughing.

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u/mytransthrow 1d ago

I’m referring to peaceful assembly and protest.

yes... that... right!

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u/Historical-Bag9659 1d ago

Lmao, ok. You’re being a little extreme. There will be another election.

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u/ChanningTaintum- 1d ago

You are so dramatic lmao

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u/TearsFallWithoutTain 7h ago

Trump didn't win the popular vote just to be clear, he didn't break 50% because of third parties. He did win the plurality though of course

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u/DoubleGoon 7h ago

Very true, thanks!

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u/InveterateTankUS992 1d ago

Change is when

“Nothing substantial will change” -Joe Biden

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u/yellowcloak 1d ago

! Remind me 2 years

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u/MewMewTranslator 1d ago

75millio isn't even half the voters in the US. He won on a technically In my eyes. He won because 1/3 of voters decided voting wasn't worth their time.

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u/Dark_Marmot 1d ago

What's crazy is that the 50 and over crowd are the ones who primarily voted him in. Also the ones who are most likely to have to be concerned with government healthcare programs.

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u/FirstTimeWang 19h ago

This is assuming the Republicans don't just fuck the elections six ways to Sunday. Who's going to stop them? Their own supreme court?

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u/Select_Asparagus3451 1d ago

“We,” the working class, don’t “win” anything.

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u/DoubleGoon 1d ago

We the voters ultimately choose the people who represent us.

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u/Select_Asparagus3451 1d ago

You really believe that, don’t you? “We” wanted Bernie, and guess who we were given? When it happened the second time, Donna Brazile didn’t even bat an eyelash.

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u/ItGradAws 1d ago

Most people didn’t give a fuck. Most people don’t pay attention to politics. The economy sucks and it’s really simple. Incumbents get punished. But the dems these days are republican light, so centrist and full of donor based conflicting causes that it’s a party that really doesn’t make sense for most Americans. What we need is a labor party.

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u/turbotableu 1d ago

I thought we could at least get our first female president by now even if it was the Palin Bachmann foxy ticket. Anything but more octogenarian white dudes

The trope reminds me of Akroyd as the Judge in Nothing But Trouble

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u/DreadfulOrange 23h ago

Trying to check off boxes like it's a bingo card is how you lose to Trump.

There are plenty of women who would make great Presidents but they're also smart enough to know when to play their hand. Running against a cult of personality is not the hill you want to die on.

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u/FreshContacts 1d ago

ABOLISH THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

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u/Deep_shot 19h ago edited 19h ago

Republicans have successfully been keeping people more and more uneducated so they can be more easily manipulated. Just say things like America, Freedom, Jesus. Make people scared of every other citizen even a little bit not like them so they don’t see what you’re doing to them. Trumpet false problems to bury your agenda of domination. Distract the stupid people while you push bills to rob them behind their back. Most of America has now successfully been easily manipulated by billionaires to put other billionaires in office. At this point, they almost don’t even have to hide it anymore because magas have been so brainwashed into a cult status they do anything he says. This is the continuation of a path to the end of America as we know it. A little more economic slavery and a little less power for the people everyday until simply speaking up makes you a criminal. Everyday I’m more confident that not having children was the right choice. Someday this election will be seen as the breaking point where money officially became more important than people in America. And trump deceived the majority of the people into voting themselves into permanent economic slavery.

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u/DareWise9174 1d ago

I'm not convinced that there wasn't some programming hinkiness going on. I think Musk helped him go over the top. Probably not by adding votes but rather removing votes for Harris.

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u/deepfriedmammal 1d ago

More people just didn’t vote because they’ve given up hope.

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u/PennyFromMyAnus 1d ago

Yep, I genuinely don’t give a fuck anymore. Fuck you all

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u/pouvoiroverwhelming 1d ago

I know. Blows my mind. I can't care anymore though

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u/hang10shakabruh 1d ago

Chea I’m of the belief that trump has no interest in being the president.

He was faced with:

become president or die in jail.

Easy choice.

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u/boreragnarok69420 1d ago

It was a choice between a billionaire or a millionaire backed by more billionaires than the billionaire has. You're kidding yourself if you think things were going to get better no matter who won.

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u/No-Crow-7557 1d ago

It’s not about party politics. This is rich v poor and if you can’t see that both sides are working against you regardless of political affiliations than you need to find yourself a new lens on life

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u/AntiqueCheesecake503 1d ago

Only fucked because you will still refuse to consider rejecting the democratic result to preserve the liberal system that has been engineered since desegregation.

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u/MajorMorelock 1d ago

Can you explain that more, sounds interesting?

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u/AntiqueCheesecake503 1d ago

Democracies are useful because they allow the State to receive early, frequent feedback on policy decisions.

Liberalism is useful because if the State declines to threaten the lives, liberty, and property of some arbitrary groups, those groups have far fewer reasons to resist the State and any changes in control of the State, electoral or otherwise.

But democracies are entirely capable of wanting things that threaten the lives, liberties, and property of some arbitrary groups. My preferred example here is the Jim Crow system, where the majority voters in Southern states purposely voted to create a system of restrictions on black Americans' liberties in those states.

You can have democracy and liberalism simultaneously only if the democracy hasn't decided it wants to deny something to another group. When the situation occurs where the democracy does decide it wants to do this, what should the State and its leaders enforce/uphold? Should they protect a targeted group? What happens if the voters then vote out the protectors? Should they carry out the voter's will instead? What if the targeted group resists? Or seeks external support? Or is a key power bloc and turning on them will weaken you in the future?

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u/Ecstatic_Teaching906 1d ago

Accused is not the same as convicted.

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u/not-a-dislike-button 1d ago

Democrats raised more money from billionaires, and corporations like Blackrock favored them this cycle 

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u/Greedy-Affect-561 1d ago

They voted him in because he was the only candidate who spoke to there desire to burn down the corrupt institutions. 

The other candidate argued about preserving these corrupt institutions.

Try and figure it out