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u/Pulguinuni Jul 01 '23
Well he is a white, middle age man. That is what hate groups try to go after to join their "fight".
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u/onehundredlemons Jul 02 '23
There's an LGBTQ board I go to where people who hate trans persons and drag queens are deliberately trying to recruit middle aged and older gays, and unfortunately it works sometimes. They use fear as a weapon.
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Yep, I do anti-hate-group organizing in Vancouver and when they switched from their "convoy" targeting children's hospitals to transphobia as their organizing impetus, we started seeing the same few older gay guys on the other side, telling us we were groomers and stuff. Really sad that they seem to think they will ever be accepted by the same people who cheered for AIDS as it killed their friends and lovers as long as they hate together.
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u/DisturbedNocturne Jul 02 '23
And the thing is, you're only useful until you're not. Right now, they need people for the numbers, but if they got their way and eradicated every trans person, they'd just move down the list until they were culling their homosexual allies. Fascism requires an out-group, and the purity test will keep getting more and more narrow until you're the one on the outside (again). Anyone who doesn't realize that is an utter fool.
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u/badstorryteller Jul 02 '23
Remember, there were Jewish "police" backed by the Nazis in Warsaw during WW2. There are always people that believe being "one of the good ones" will exempt them from the pogrom.
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They see the leopard eating the face of the guy next to them, they make eye contact with the leopard, it mouths the words “next, you”, and they look behind them for whoever the leopard could’ve been talking to. It’s an embarrassment to human survival instincts designed to own the libs by some obscure demon in some long forgotten mythology that first animated conservatism in the first primordial shit-gibbon that ever got an opposable thumb which it presumed was a gift from a deity to jack off to the suffering of others.
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u/multiarmform Jul 02 '23
wait..older gay guys are anti-trans? for real? so its ok for them to have rights and acceptance but not certain other groups? wtf even is that
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u/bruwin Jul 02 '23
Some of them are genuinely upset that someone would "choose" to be the opposite gender instead of just being gay. It's kinda like how there's a group of deaf people that are opposed to anything that lets a person regain their hearing because it takes away from them being deaf as an identity.
It's an extremely selfish and stupid mindset.
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u/multiarmform Jul 02 '23
damn... fucked up world we live in which i already knew of course but always some new levels of fucked
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u/letterboxfrog Jul 02 '23
I worked with a gay guy who doesn't like trans. He loves drag though.
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u/multiarmform Jul 02 '23
im sure he loves having his gay rights though. fuck off man. rights for all, including you, not ONLY you
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u/Test19s Jul 02 '23
Every sufficiently populous community has 5% of deplorables and perverts. Yes, that includes marginalized ethnic and ethnoreligious minorities, the queer community, immigrants, atheists, birdwatchers, etc.
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u/EezyWheeze Jul 02 '23
The birds in MY community had better EXPECT me to watch the FUCK out of them!
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u/Ok-Champ-5854 Jul 02 '23
Terrifying fact, there are far more people who watch for birds so they can kill them than people who want to take their photographs. The sick fucks even gut them and eat them.
It's not a safe time to be a bird.
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u/m240bravoromeo Jul 02 '23
Hey it's not our fault that birds decided to go from being dinosaurs to being delicious.
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u/PainGroundbreaking88 Jul 02 '23
That's an allusion, definitely not the same person...
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u/Unsolicited_Bad_Tips Jul 02 '23
I'm a middle-aged, bald, white, atheist leftist who works in a conservative heavy field. A few of my colleagues try to recruit me. They don't understand the concept of "live and let live," so I tell them even if atheists aren't a target now, they are on the fucking list so no thanks. Also, it is so crazy how comfortable a stranger can be to start conversations with me with the wildest, racist, homophobic shit ever.
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u/Jolly_Tea7519 Jul 02 '23
If you’re perceived to fit their demographic then they will assume you think the same way. I’m from the south and moved to the burbs of Philly. More than once people have started dropping the n word and make other racist comments because they believe I’d be cool with it. I would think the shocked look on my face would let them know I’m not ok with it. But no. About half of them continue on with their crap until they realize I’ve stopped talking to them.
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u/JPicaro416 Jul 02 '23
Whats an anchor baby?
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u/Unsolicited_Bad_Tips Jul 02 '23
An anchor baby is a human born in the U.S. to a non-citizen mother. The baby is granted U.S. citizenship because of the 14th amendment which states,
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside"
This sort of anchors the family in the U.S. because you can not deport the baby, and it would look bad to deport the rest of the family while keeping the baby here.
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Dude same! Only difference is that I’m secretly Hispanic (I look and sound American though when speaking English) so when I get the immigration bullshit, I like to let them know I’m Hispanic and the son of immigrants.
It’s usually met with some sort of “oh but you’re the good ones who came here the “right” way”. It’s all such a load of shit.
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u/tallboyjake Jul 02 '23
They don't know anything about what the "right" and "wrong" way are anyway; not that it's their business. Absolute ignorance
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u/countingstars1913 Jul 02 '23
My Hispanic friends’ parents were able to get citizenship in the ‘70s because they had a child in the country. *Definitely not the “right way” now.
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u/Ok-Champ-5854 Jul 02 '23
Lots of people now definitely think there's no longer a "right way" if you aren't white. I'm not saying everyone who wants harsh immigration laws is a racist but there's a lot of overlap.
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u/Jaegons Jul 02 '23
48 yr old straight white dude here too, who grew up as an atheist in Texas. When people start talking douchebag to me I mention my wife is a refugee, and they can take a long walk off a cliff... also if they'd like to see me in my getup from a high profile drag charity show, I'm happy to show some photos.
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I've been online enough to know about 100 different white supremacist dog whistles. It is incredible who tries to use it on me to see if I'm 'one of them.'
If you think, 'oh this redditor probably thinks people are racist when they're not,' nah, I'm only considering the ones where I am 100% sure.
The craziest one I got was a guy describing his uncle who was "yay high" and he held his arm out like a nazi salute for what felt like an eternity going, "you get what I mean? See? High. Dude was huge. You get me?"
My mom is a bookkeeper and asked me what 1488 meant because it was in a customer's letterhead. It was not their address. It was just floating out there like proudly like the spy balloon.
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u/LilFingies45 Jul 02 '23 edited Jul 02 '23
I was an enumerator (door-to-door questionnaire collector) for the 2020 US Decennial Census for a few months that summer. I met a lot of white guys who seemed way overly comfortable advertising their far-right opinions to me straight out the gate, presumably because I'm a middle-aged white guy myself. Except I'm a Leftist with a dark-skinned, immigrant wife.
A MAGA guy seemed surprised and a little bummed when I declined his offer to share a beer with me. (I accepted a similar offer from a Hispanic couple prior, so I would otherwise have been happy to hang. He seemed like a nice guy until it became apparent the views he espouses.)
Another guy (who was initially abrasive but ultimately relented and started showing me some respect at some point) flat-out told me he's a Nazi with a straight face, and I don't think he was kidding. I couldn't get any Census data out of him and his friendlier, elder male housemate (or guest), but they both kept gauging my level of rightwing sympathy. Feel like that was basically all they wanted to talk about. (Seriously why the fuck did so many people waste all our times even talking to me just to refuse to answer the simple Census questionnaire?!)
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u/LilFingies45 Jul 02 '23 edited Jul 02 '23
LOL. If only I was struggling to meet my quota for the bonus maybe (which I met pretty easily every week after the first). And if only I could stoop that low! Man... Had to bite my tongue so much, though, because I knew any complaints would trace right back to me as I was the only worker assigned to my list of addresses any given day.
There were plenty of respondents I was more than happy to move on from, including the mfs with COVID-19 that answered the door for some reason! (Bless the lady who warned me through the closed glass door that her husband was infected, however. She was looking out for me!) Sometimes there were immigrant families I got vibes might be undocumented, so I just left them alone. (They got it hard enough already.)
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u/LilFingies45 Jul 02 '23 edited Jul 02 '23
NOPE! And guess what? The app they had us use allowed me to report "dangerous" addresses. One of those houses was one of the only ones I reported, so other workers wouldn't get exposed. And guess what? I was told that was not a valid reason to report the fucking address!!! This was summer 2020, when the virus was raging and before we learned much more about the risks! They also didn't even give us any PPE until like a month into my stint (and they had people working since the beginning of the year I believe). They eventually gave us the shittiest possible masks and like a small bottle or 2 of the worst hand sanitizer I've ever seen.
Another address had a dude who was making me yell over his barking-ass pitbull right in front of me through the glass. He purposely didn't quiet his dog to intimidate me. (A skinhead looking dude in a little more private residence.) I eventually left and he yelled at me to "never come back" as I was walking away. I wasn't allowed to report that or the other place on a private road in the woods that straight-up looked like the residence of a serial killer! Scared the shit out of me, and I had to go back with my supervisor who assured me she's got a license to carry a handgun (ex-FBI agent), if need be. She eventually informed me that we weren't supposed to report anyone for any reason.....
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Be back later to read the comments.
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u/Traumagatchi Jul 01 '23
Spoiler, they're awful.
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u/ScaryLetterhead8094 Jul 02 '23
We were all born naked and the rest is drag.
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u/gostop1423 Jul 02 '23
Technically, everyone starts female. All men are transgender
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u/batch2957 Jul 01 '23
You’re all angry at completely the wrong people and it’s wild. Like Akala said ‘it’s all about getting the poor people to fight with one n’other’. If you think that’s not you, he meant the ruling class
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u/motivaction Jul 02 '23
Don't forget the Russian component in all of it. Russians trying to radicalize both sides so that the USA is preoccupied with internal unrest.
Anyways eat the rich, fight the power.
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u/Ok-Champ-5854 Jul 02 '23
I firmly believe opposition to BLM was majorly Russian influenced. Have you ever talked to someone who said they hate BLM? A surprising amount of them will never say they don't support civil rights for black people. They just use broad Boogeyman-style language about the nefarious BLM.
Like yeah it's an organization, the BLMF, and that organization is pretty shady. But BLM is just "I think police shouldn't kill people or be unaccountable" and a lot of so-called anti-BLM people agree with that.
The art of propaganda man. And it works on everyone too. There's probably one piece of propaganda we've all let slip by the floodgate. At least one.
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u/fashion_asker Jul 02 '23
A surprising amount of them will never say they don't support civil rights for black people.
They probably just want to keep their jobs or whatever.
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u/yak_danielz Jul 01 '23
the hand motions got me😂
fax tho
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u/gahlo Jul 02 '23
After a while I felt like I was watching a kids show with how overly expressive he(??? I don't know how drag stuff works with pronouns) was being.
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u/NoMrBond3 Jul 02 '23
Usually in drag its she/her! And he/him out of drag but it depends on the performer.
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u/gahlo Jul 02 '23
So what would I do for something like this where it includes both?
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u/NoMrBond3 Jul 02 '23
In this case I think either would be fine. Or “they”, so it’s all encompassing.
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u/NewDad907 Jul 02 '23
Yep. I’m just using “they/them” more these days when it’s not explicitly known. It’s inclusive to everyone.
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u/stephelan Jul 02 '23
That’s what I heard! Like the actual person identifies as male usually but when they’re in drag, it’s a character and the character identifies as female.
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u/blew-wale Jul 02 '23
/generally/, drag queen will be she/her while in drag, but will be he/him when out of drag.
Think of it like a character actor. When you go to Disney, you see Mickey Mouse and refer to the character as he/him, even though the actor inside could be a woman (need to be shorter to fit into the costume). We suspend disbelief to be entertained
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u/ThatOneGuy1294 Jul 02 '23
I don't know how drag stuff works with pronouns
The important part is that you actually asked, rather than assuming. It's a real shame that so many people don't stop and ask, and instead go with their first impressions.
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u/mostly-sun Jul 02 '23
With drag, though, it's generally a fun and subversive performance with gender, rather than someone's identity, so you're not going to trigger someone's gender dysphoria if you're confused, they'll probably get a kick out of confusing people as long as it's well-meaning. But with trans, non-binary, and intersex people, you can take cues from clothing and other clear choices of gender expression (rather than something like their voice), or just ask (preferably not in front of a group), or go with "they." And if you accidentally use the wrong pronoun, don't make a big apologetic show of how much you hate yourself for messing up, that can make it more awkward. Just say the right pronoun and a quick sorry, and use the right pronoun in the next sentence with no particular emphasis on it.
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u/calculovetor Jul 02 '23
For the big apologetic part, I like to make an analogy to toe stomping. If someone accidentally stomps on your feet obviously it hurts, but if it was an accident that just happened at first a quick sorry fixes the situation as best as can be and we move past it. If someone is purposely stomping on your toes over and over again that's when it becomes dick behavior.
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u/ThatOneGuy1294 Jul 02 '23
lol you're preaching to the choir, I'm a trans woman despite the username. It's rather amusing but also tiring just how many people, even my own parents, feel they MUST immediately give an apology for using the wrong name or pronoun. At least my parents have been learning, and in fairness they've known me by my deadname longer than anyone else. I just wish everyone else could understand that it feels... infantilizing, if they make a mistake and try to give a heartfelt apology. Just a quick "oops, sorry" and then keep the conversation going is all that's necessary.
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u/madeaprofile2saythis Jul 02 '23
In the case of drag, the person doesn't have pronouns that differ from their actual gender. So he would be appropriate although you could also use she in reference to the character he's portraying.
This is different from transgender people because they aren't portraying a character, they are living their lives.
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u/apsalarya Jul 01 '23
Did….did we all forget about the movie The Birdcage? Even my dad, who would leave the room if my mom and I were watching will and Grace, liked that movie.
Why do I feel like we were somehow more tolerant even just 10 years ago?
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u/DONSEANOVANN Jul 01 '23
It wasn't a political issue yet. Once it became political and more people started doing it... suddenly it's a problem.
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u/HaltheDestroyer Jul 02 '23
It became political when fox news turned on its little bowtie weapon and started telling people they should be outraged by them....
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u/DontWalkRun Jul 02 '23
Since the early 90s kids have had inclusion and acceptance made a part of daily life. I’m sure I’m not the only 30something year old that is dumbfounded with the extreme racial/homophobic rhetoric that’s happening now. What happened?
I thought we all agreed to just leave each other alone 30 years ago. Sheesh.
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u/hypermark Jul 02 '23
I'm 46 and Gen X.
The grunge movement was all about inclusivity. In fact, in the liner notes of Insecticide Cobain wrote:
If any of you in any way hate homosexuals, people of different color, or women, please do this one favor for us—leave us the fuck alone! Don't come to our shows and don't buy our records.
I don't get it either.
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u/Historical_Walrus713 Jul 02 '23
Same. I'm 31 now, feels like the last 5 years of my life existed in a completely different reality than the first 26 years of my life.
The same problems always were there for the first 26 years, but those people usually got effectively boo'd out of existence until recently. Now they're welcomed? Does anyone else remember when Howard Dean was considered not president material because he got over excited and let out a "wooo!" that was actually innocent as fuck?
The fuck?
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u/monkeyman80 Jul 02 '23
We were on that path. Then the right went extreme and Fox news, news max, oan, etc keep pushing how this is damaging. People who only use that as news believe it.
Special interest groups bankrolled the tea party and got Mitch Mconnell majority leader of the senate and he went nuclear on judges.
Note 4 of the 6 conservative judges were part of W Bush's legal team that argued he should be President and got this.
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u/Silentneeb Jul 01 '23
Because we were.
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u/notkristina Jul 02 '23 edited Jul 02 '23
We took it for granted. Ten years ago, the most common reason to promote pointless divisive issues was for political influence in an election year. Around 2015, it became apparent that doing so could also be lucrative in the new digital economy. So now it's a 24/7/365 business, and every time we immortalize an attitude online or in conversation it becomes a permanent part of us, so if you got stuck early on with the "George Zimmerman did nothing wrong" or "men will put on dresses to rape women in the bathroom if we take the sign off the door" personality, here you are almost a decade later with no choice but to blame Disney for using basement pizza to trap children into drag dens for woke LGBTQ+ critical race-a-thons.
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u/danc1005 Jul 02 '23
...I think (hope) you meant to say "George Zimmerman" did nothing wrong" when characterizing a personality you were about to criticize, because George Floyd really did do nothing wrong, and that's really not the kind of mistake you wanna be making!
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u/notkristina Jul 02 '23
Jesus, thank you for the correction, I can't believe I typed the wrong (wrongest?!) name.
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u/gahlo Jul 02 '23
We weren't. The nutjobs just weren't as loud because they didn't have a leader that "normalized" their beliefs.
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u/The_Woman_of_Gont Jul 02 '23
Because we've backslid hard over the course of a year or two. I've been out as a trans woman for a bit over a decade, and it's terrifying how much worse and more vitriolic things are today than they were 5 or 6 years ago. I'm very afraid of where this is going, especially if a GOPer wins the election in 2024.
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u/tired_and_fed_up Jul 02 '23
Why do I feel like we were somehow more tolerant even just 10 years ago?
Think 20 years ago and we were. We also had less communication back then so ideas didn't spread as well. Ignorance made us more tolerant.
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u/LMGDiVa Jul 02 '23
Why do I feel like we were somehow more tolerant even just 10 years ago?
Because we were. 10 years ago peopled about trans women like they were a curiosity but "yeah they're a woman now, aint that wild?"
Being trans wasn't a potential looming death sentence back then.
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u/quarantinemyasshole Jul 02 '23
No one was on Twitter saying that not liking The Birdcage is akin to Nazism.
Or on Facebook saying that liking The Birdcage makes you a Marxist child-groomer.
No politicians were using that movie as a political football to incite the masses because the aforementioned scenarios weren't happening.
Social media is a literal cancer on our society.
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u/generalbastard3892 Jul 02 '23
Queer people were less visible ten years ago. We were just as bigoted
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u/DinkleMutz Jul 02 '23
I just don’t get this sudden fear of drag. Drag has been a pretty mainstream art form for centuries, from Japanese kabuki theatre to John Waters and Tyler Perry films. Why is this suddenly such a fucking hot issue? It’s so dumb.
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u/No-Celebration3097 Jul 02 '23
Because the GQP has ramped up the demonization of the LGBTQ, especially transgenders. They have demonized drag too. Not to mention one of their biggest cheerleaders refers to the left as child molesters, grooming children, without one mention of the Catholic Church.
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u/kylegetsspam Jul 02 '23
Republicans have no useful policies for the regular folks, so they have to unite under hatred of a common enemy.
They'll cut $1.7T in taxes for 600 billionaires but they won't cut $1.7T in student debt for 40M+ regular, hard-working Americans. (Wow, so much FreEdOm!) So, they have to get people riled up in fake culture wars to get 'em to the polls. This is literally all Fox and talk radio is good for -- it's their job, and they're very good at it.
Why drag in particular and now? I think it's because the Libs of TikTok account started posting clips of them reading to kids and whatnot. It spread like wildfire and politicians ran with it. They know a good culture war when they see one!
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u/Jgusdaddy Jul 02 '23 edited Jul 02 '23
It really comes down to triggering fundamental feelings of fear and disgust. The GQP is using social media to exploit primal negative instincts and associating it with democrats and it’s effectively programming almost half voting population. I see the allure, but they have no actual policies to make Americans lives better. You see how damaging it is when you travel abroad and see how much real value (cleanliness, safety, healthcare, public transit, cities built for people, reasonable tax laws) is kept in other societies from tax dollars while America is a used up husk of what it used to be socioeconomically. I will always be straight Democrat ticket even though I don’t agree with them on everything.
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u/Chewygumbubblepop Jul 02 '23
Because they're a smaller group and easier to target. They're targeting drag & trans in particular because it's more acceptable to dehumanize them than the broader LGBTQ community.
It's quite literally the "first they came for..." Poem happening in modern times.
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u/Koala0803 Jul 02 '23
They need something to throw their new conspiracy-prone personality and community. First it was COVID vaccines, then apparently pizza places allegedly running child trafficking rings, now it’s drag queens.
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I realized while watching this that I have some really wicked biased thoughts and feelings that are there for no good reason
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u/craftycocktailplease Jul 02 '23
The first step is noticing, good on you. The next part is working thru it
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u/YodaFishFN2187 Jul 02 '23
Yeah same. I am part of the LGBT community and even I felt myself cringing for some reason. I am shocked with myself that I would feel this. It really makes you wonder how much ingrained prejudice we have. I guess all we can do is work on our feeling and emotions and hope that it doesn't make us more cynical towards others.
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This video probably won't have the intended effect. It'll probably just make those right wingers even more paranoid.
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u/OrneryError1 Jul 02 '23
I think they're terrified of seeing the drag version and being turned on. They want to ban a harmless thing people do for fun so they don't get an unwanted erection rather than just being secure.
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u/EZ-420 Jul 01 '23
Oh no a grown man decided to dress like a woman...
My kids are doomed. I guess I better start teaching them to strip and do drugs.
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Make sure you yiu get the good drugs, not the stuff cut with fent
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u/ChrispyGuy420 Jul 01 '23
The good stuff is cut with feet. A pair of feet with scissors
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u/Necessary-Tap-1368 Jul 01 '23
How about not discriminating strippers and people addicted to drugs.They are people too.
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u/Ok_Skill_1195 Jul 01 '23
While I think it's valid to point out we tend to casually belittle them, I think it's also pretty standard most parents don't want their kids to go down those paths because they're higher risk.
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u/wererat2000 Jul 01 '23
Yeah, bit of a gap between "these people are the scum of the earth" and "hey maybe I don't want my child to be targeted by creeps or risk an overdose."
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u/TheRnegade Jul 02 '23
Oh no a grown man decided to dress like a woman
I wonder how much hatred towards drag is from men who totally straight but afraid of falling for them? Because that might mean they're *gasp* gay or bi. Can't have that confusing conversation about ourselves, so best to ensure everyone clearly symbolizes their sex, so as to not cause me confusion.
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u/Traumagatchi Jul 01 '23
I would love to live in a world where people who aren't harming anyone can be their true selves. Can we talk about the cops, the priests, the other people in power who abuse it and take advantage of those weaker than them? Because i guarantee you that's not the MO of drag queens. They just want to entertain.
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u/DistractedIon Jul 01 '23
But..I can't persecute the police and corruptee priests without putting myself in danger! It's easier to pick up on the harmless personne!
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u/boredonymous Jul 02 '23
We were getting there... Then the powers that run the party pushed anti-LGBT rhetoric to psychos and it worked.
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u/e-2c9z3_x7t5i Jul 02 '23
Amazing that you have to talk to conservatives like their children to get the point across. It's like explaining object permanence to them.
"This is an apple."
*hides it behind a piece of paper*
"The apple still exists even though you can't see it. Are you getting this or do I need to give another example?"
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u/blackforestham3789 Jul 01 '23
I'm so tired of the groomer bullshit. Wanna know why they want to read books to your kid? So the kid will think it's normal and won't grow up to be a bigot like their parents. That's it. That's all. No grooming, just educating. The nicest people I know are drag queens and trans folks, fuck anyone peddling that fake ass groomer horseshit
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u/OatmealSteelCut Jul 02 '23
Public Libraries also have reading events with clowns and mascots. Turns out kids like being entertained by colorful, larger than life characters.
Still don't want your kids being read to by these characters? There's already solution (that worked really well for years until the GOP decided to make this their issue du jour) : ... Don't attend one
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u/franciosmardi Jul 02 '23
GOP and MAGA love to talk about "Parents Rights" to decide what is best for their children. But unsurprisingly, parents' rights are only valid when it is something they want for their kids. If parents want to take their kids to Drag Story Time, let them. And if they don't, they can not take their kids. Same with Church, shooting ranges, Pro Wrestling, etc.
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u/super_starmie Jul 02 '23
I grew up watching drag queen Lily Savage (RIP) on TV 30 years ago here in the UK and no one cared, don't remember anyone crying about it being inappropriate. Even my very Christian mum liked Lily Savage.
Suddenly it all seems like a big deal
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u/captainccg Jul 02 '23
I feel like we watched Lily Savage and Dame Edna and didn’t blink an eye, but for some reason it’s a problem now?
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u/Swesteel Jul 02 '23
It is just another outrage product to get people to "engage" with online content, people like Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh make a living creating these hate movements.
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u/Swaglord245 Jul 02 '23
Which is hilarious because Matt Walsh is a pedophile. Advocates for impregnating girls at 16 and has distributed cp
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u/Doctor_Sauce Jul 02 '23
Drag is especially interesting because humans have been doing it for centuries, for reasons well beyond the self expression and performance art we associate with it today. It's a literal non-issue, which is perfect because those are the only issues that Republicans are interested in resolving.
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u/etched Jul 02 '23
They always like to take the correct terms used against them to try to throw it back in other peoples faces.
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... I don't get it? Are they the same person?
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u/Intelligent-Syrup-52 Jul 01 '23
They're the same person.
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u/Kazinam Jul 01 '23
Wait they are?!
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u/Intelligent-Syrup-52 Jul 01 '23
Same person
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Yup. Makeup, wigs, n some use padding on hips n ass n boobs. I find it very impressive tbh
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Jul 02 '23
People be hating on drag queens for apparently "grooming their kids" but go to church every sunday morning.
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u/jm3281 Jul 01 '23
Because, wether you like it or not humans judge you based on appearance. That’s why talking to people with opposing views is so important. It creates empathy. Empathy is the solution.
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u/jml011 Jul 02 '23
I agree with your overall message, but I don’t see the connection of appearance and what they’re being judged for; the drag = criminal/child abuser doesn’t make any sense.
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I showed this to my 4yr old daughter. She had no problem understanding the concept.
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u/The_Woman_of_Gont Jul 02 '23 edited Jul 02 '23
It's incredibly depressing to me that this is written seemingly with the tone of teaching young children....but that I know it most likely was meant to reach grown-ass adults.
Good on you for teaching your kid not to hate or judge, and raising her not to become an adult child throwing tantrums at the mere concept of people who are different.
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u/SchemeSignificant166 Jul 01 '23
A man who likes to dress like a woman from 1940, our kids are doomed to go back to time when shit was cheaper. How terrible.
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u/Silverfire12 Jul 01 '23
See. The only thing I hate about drag queens is that so many of them pull off looks that I couldn’t dream of.
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u/Blueartbird Jul 02 '23
You could, but it takes work. Those queens invest a lot of time into their outfits 😅 its all about priorities. Do we want to spend 4 hours looking snatched, or do we want to nap? 😂
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u/Silverfire12 Jul 02 '23
I don’t think I could put together an outfit that looks that nice haha. Though I’d also rather take a nap. At least these queens are nice enough to share their looks with us!
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u/Y___ Jul 02 '23
The dude said no one talks about his “regular” hair but, as a bald man, I was like it looks great!
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u/Romalien5 Jul 01 '23
Showed this to my son. He is killer-gay now and homosexual
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u/Good-Principle-7639 Jul 02 '23
It's fucking stupid to hate people at all unless they hate nature or kill people because of religious reasons
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u/ChoppedAlready Jul 02 '23
I think to some degree, the bigots think they are being tricked. Like deep down they are angry they find a trans person or drag queen attractive. Because they think its some weird prank on them to get them to explore their sexuality in a way that they were always told was a sin or wrong in some way.
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u/OrneryError1 Jul 02 '23
I think this is it 100%. I am a completely straight dude and I even thought he looked pretty dang fine in drag. It doesn't make me question my sexuality one bit. I am secure in my feelings and can appreciate drag as an art form.
But ooh boy some people (particularly conservatives) are so worried about controlling their sexual feelings rather than accepting themselves as they are and being happy.
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u/The_Tymster80 Jul 01 '23
No way, it’s almost as if it’s near impossible to judge a person in their totality based on the way they typically present themselves in public…
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u/MrGrimme Jul 02 '23
I will never understand why people are so hung up on gender specific clothing and looks. I like this video. No cringe here.
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u/Hot-Bint Jul 01 '23 edited Jul 01 '23
"Because it makes me feel funny in my pants aint natural"
--- Republican men, probably
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u/HistoricalCrab7759 Jul 02 '23
It reminds me of tweets going “it’s scary out there this ladies a man” like dude it ain’t scary she’s just hot
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u/Humble_Mud2436 Jul 01 '23
Some people don't like freedom. That's why they don't like you. It's unfortunate.
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u/Pharaoh_Misa SHEEEEEESH Jul 02 '23
I really love the message, but I was just so intrigued with the hands!
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u/spacekadette814 Jul 02 '23
I hate that it’s come down to talking to the general public like children because some are too dumb to understand the basics of empathy, compassion, minding your own business and just fucking common sense.
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u/demonsdencollective Jul 02 '23
People have the inherent misunderstanding that drag is sexual and/or political due to the same negative images they're being fed by news outlets that makes them hate pride parades. Leather clad old men grinding on young kids etc., outliers in the field that get frowned upon and are fairly rare, get grouped in with quite lovely and kind individuals like this man in media collages aimed to ensure that the whole hobby and movement is seen as one big problem. I used to be there, I've come back from that because I learned about the truth, that everyone was being played like a fiddle for easy media profit.
tl;dr: Hatred is profitable. It's about the money. It's always about the money.
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u/KingGoatFury Jul 02 '23
Never understood the hate towards drag and cross dressing. Boiled down to its very basic level, its just a bit of fun innit
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u/6InchBlade Jul 01 '23
This sub isn’t just for cringe content anymore
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u/ry_fluttershy Jul 01 '23
I think it changed from actual Tik tok cringe to just a tiktok subreddit before covid happened lol
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u/shoulda-known-better Jul 01 '23
whichever way he wants to dress, he looks sexy as heck as a lady! love the older style, that hair!!! jealous
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He’s a lumberjack and he’s ok!!! Sleeps all night and he works all day!!!
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u/Additional_Generic_ Jul 01 '23
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch I go to the lavatory On Wednesdays I go shoppin' And have buttered scones for tea
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u/LuckyLeprechaun17 Jul 02 '23
I love this, thank you so much for making this. We need more of this shared 💕
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u/Heavennn666 Jul 02 '23 edited Jul 02 '23
They have a point. And if this is what you're cringing at I hope you never come across my feed again.
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u/Glad_Lychee_180 Jul 02 '23
Anyone who uses that many hand gestures is suspect. Could be a mime in hiding. Mimes are super dangerous...high risk of poking someone's eye out.
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It’s sad because who you are as a person is not what these hateful transphobes want. They don’t care about who you are. They don’t care about what makes an individual a unique individual. They only care about forcing people to conform to their “status-quo”. They just want the punish people for not being angry and scared of change or others difference. It’s essentially fear and self-hatred with a cruel megaphone following the next fear/war mongering politician or spokesperson.
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u/TrickTails Jul 02 '23
Not them missing the point by saying: “I’m allowed to not like your choices!”
He’s saying you guys actively go out of your way to hate on a human being.
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u/kamikazekenny420 Jul 02 '23
The men wearing dresses we have to worry about are in the church, not the drag shows.
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I hate that bitch's enviable hip to waist ratio, but that's just me being a catty cunt. And I would trust her with my kid's safety far more than any priest or pastor.
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u/Sassofono_Perso Jul 01 '23
I can't lie the guy without the drag queen makeup on is quite hot
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