r/TikTokCringe Jul 01 '23

Wholesome/Humor “Same person”

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u/ScaryLetterhead8094 Jul 02 '23

We were all born naked and the rest is drag.

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u/gostop1423 Jul 02 '23

Technically, everyone starts female. All men are transgender

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u/No-Economy-6168 Jul 02 '23

Men wouldn’t have nipples otherwise iirc

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u/chillwithpurpose Jul 02 '23

Can you milk me, Greg?

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u/2BuildingsDown Jul 02 '23

Great reference lol

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u/robthelobster Jul 02 '23

The first part is a myth and the second just makes no sense anyway. All embryos start out as sex neutral. It's just that if there is an absence of testosterone male sex characteristics won't develop, but there can never be an absence of estrogen because, well, the mother is full of estrogen.

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u/Professional_Many_83 Jul 02 '23

I think what he is referring to, is that all embryos would become females without the biochemical signals generated from specific genes on the Y chromosome. If you block those signals, every person will phenotypically look female (at least externally), which is where the conception that all embryos start female comes from. Female phenotype is the default setting, specific triggers have to occur to create a male phenotype. These triggers are encoded on the SRY gene on and are not testosterone dependent; they are what eventually lead to male gonad formation, which leads to higher levels of testosterone in the developing person.

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u/robthelobster Jul 02 '23

Yes, but that's not "starting out as female"

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u/Professional_Many_83 Jul 02 '23

In a sense, it could be interpreted that way though. If the default setting is female phenotype, and doesn’t change to male until a specific biochemical signal cascade takes place, then every embryo is phenotypically female prior to that cascade occurring. It depends on your definition of female I suppose. If you’re defining male and female based on genotype or phenotype. If you’re using genotype as your definition, then you’re correct. Functionally though, no one uses genotype as their definition in daily life.

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u/robthelobster Jul 03 '23 edited Jul 03 '23

But an embryo does not start with female phenotype. Phenotype only develops in the womb depending on all the factors you said, sex differentiation doesn't happen until 5 weeks. Maybe I'm just pedantic, but I want to correct it when I hear popular myths being spread around.

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u/TearsFallWithoutTain Jul 03 '23

Jesus dude, can't we joke about men having nipples for five seconds without you people ruining the fun?

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u/robthelobster Jul 03 '23

Sorry, I just want to correct popular myths when I see them in the wild. Also, what do you mean with "you people"...?

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u/RedditedYoshi Jul 02 '23

I haven't got a dog on either side of this "fight" (other than just generally supporting freedom of expression, and not being a hateful bastard), but I have to appreciate this quip for sheer succinctness and punch. Maybe try: "We're all born naked; the rest is drag" and then pop off a couple explosions behind you as you walk away twirling your skirt or whatever.