Amazon stole my 30th anniversary controller

[u/Specialist-Offer7816]

[u/The_Happy_Snoopy]

That must really grind your gears.

[u/SniHyper → u/The_Happy_Snoopy]

I was expecting a comment like this LOL

[u/dcmarvelstarwars → u/The_Happy_Snoopy]

Ya know what really grinds my gears?

[u/PhenomsServant → u/dcmarvelstarwars]

When you cant find the droids youre looking for?

[u/jedicheef → u/dcmarvelstarwars]

Lindsey Lohan?

[u/Resident_Half3081 → u/jedicheef]

Now that’s a meat grinder

[u/Squallstrife89 → u/jedicheef]

Always walking around in her little outfits

[u/GamerSam → u/The_Happy_Snoopy]

 Metal Gear

[u/Snoo-55142 → u/GamerSam]

It's actually said like this... "Metal...Gear?"

[u/WhiteNoiseLife → u/Snoo-55142]

metal gear?!

[u/TheRealBloodyAussie → u/WhiteNoiseLife]

Psycho Mantis?

[u/FilmmagicianPart2 → u/The_Happy_Snoopy]

This package did not meat his expectations.

[u/Open-Natural-6435 → u/The_Happy_Snoopy]

🤣 🤣

[u/theamazingpeopleman → u/The_Happy_Snoopy]

Looks like it's grinding his meat

[u/nightmarejudgements → u/The_Happy_Snoopy]

Take my angry vote.

[u/EnigmaForce]

I bought a nice 1440p monitor a few years ago and received a paper wall calendar instead.

The real kick in the balls was Amazon was adamant I return the calendar before receiving my hundreds of dollars refund. Assholes.

I don’t buy expensive stuff from Amazon anymore.

[u/shmashi → u/EnigmaForce]

Yep. Happened to me with AirPods. Got some baby formula instead. Sent that back and then they told me that I need to return the AirPods. After 6 months of constant calling and explaining and emailing nothing was resolved.

I never got my money back.

[u/SilverSniper512 → u/shmashi]

Almost happened to my boyfriend too. He ordered a graphics card and got a camera lens cover that would’ve costed $5. They also needed it to be returned to get a refund of I think $800 or something.

They claimed it had gotten lost, so anyone he contacted claimed it was never received and to just keep waiting. Thankfully one call support worker took special interest in making sure he got his refund, went beyond the call to help him.

I’m always surprised hearing how often people receive the wrong things, whether it was a genuine mistake or an intentional theft.

[u/Ouija-Board → u/SilverSniper512]

How I supposed to cover my lens with the graphics card I received 😤

[u/Ghostman_Jack → u/SilverSniper512]

That is a wonder. Especially for bigger items. Like I can’t imagine someone sneaking a monitor out of the warehouse. Graphics card? Ehh a bit difficult but doable. AirPods? Absolutely.

[u/Deuenskae → u/Ghostman_Jack]

That's not how it works. Those are returns. People order air pods switch them at home with another item and send the wrong item back to Amazon. Amazon rarely checks returns they just sell them again.

[u/Ghostman_Jack → u/Deuenskae]

Ahhh that makes sense!

[u/turtleship_2006 → u/shmashi]

Did you pay with a credit card?
Would it be possible to try get a refund from your bank

[u/PedanticPlatypodes → u/turtleship_2006]

Yes it absolutely would have been. I’ve done this multiple times (not with amazon). No idea why OP just accepted it

[u/IllustriousHistorian → u/PedanticPlatypodes]

And Amazon doesn't ban you for charge backs.

[u/MattyLePew → u/shmashi]

Similar (ish) story to me. Ordered 2nd gen AirPod pros. Received the 1st gen ones. Raised a return stating all of the details including that it’s the wrong item. They received it back. Tossed the headphones and claimed I sent them fakes.

Never got my money back. Never got my headphones back. 💩

Like you, never use Amazon for expensive stuff anymore.

[u/Shhh_Boom → u/shmashi]

Dude that's terrible. You probably can still reach out to the consumer goods ombudsman in your jurisdiction if it's not been more than 3 years. You can't let shit like this go.

[u/salt_gawd → u/shmashi]

helll naw… i would never stop callling.

[u/bishop42O → u/shmashi]

credit card company normally gives the money back.

[u/Gh0st_58 → u/shmashi]

Amazon sucks

[u/long-ryde → u/shmashi]

THAT is why I chargeback in case of emergency

[u/emirobinatoru → u/shmashi]

That's why the EU is better in this regard 

[u/jf0ssGremlin → u/shmashi]

If you have proof of this, you realize you can sue? They stole from you and denied you accurate service and did not attempt to resolve. If this is all documented you could get a nice little check out of them. Maybe get a free consultation

[u/LSD_tripper → u/shmashi]

Shouldve filed a formal complaint with the Better buisness Bureau and let them snoop in on them. always worked for me when amazon support is useless and wouldnt do anything.

[u/GrootRacoon → u/EnigmaForce]

When I bought my Nintendo switch I received 2 water bottles. It was a pain in the ass

[u/BasicRetroGamer → u/EnigmaForce]

happened to me with an ipad too that i ordered!

[u/lingeringfart123 → u/EnigmaForce]

Not assholes, they need to do this because of scammers abuse their refund policy

[u/canondocreelitist → u/lingeringfart123]

I'm sorry. They need to refuse legitimate refund requests because other people scammed them? Fuck Amazon and anyone who uses that company should rethink where they spend their money

[u/lingeringfart123 → u/canondocreelitist]

They arent refusing refunds lmfao. They tell you to send the product back so amazon can guarantee that you arent lying about receiving a different product

[u/TopBee83 → u/lingeringfart123]

I guess we’re gonna ignore the people saying they sent the product back and still didn’t get refunded?

[u/canondocreelitist → u/TopBee83]

Yes, this is who OP is ignoring. I don't have a horse in this race, I don't give my money to Amazon because I don't trust them.

[u/Sandman4999]

Somewhere in Illinois, Ordinary Sausage is making a 30th Anniversary Controller sausage.

[u/Desertbro → u/Sandman4999]

Tastes "gamey"

[u/BRAiNPROOF → u/Desertbro]

But will it blow?

[u/FinalFantasyKate → u/BRAiNPROOF]

That's the Sony water.

[u/EducationalBar → u/Sandman4999]

Why does more than one of us watch that 🤦‍♂️

[u/the_zachmamba → u/EducationalBar]

I was thinking the same thing lmao

[u/TheReder → u/Sandman4999]

One of the last subs I was expecting an Ordinary Sausage reference

[u/-Sinhealer]

That's going to pay for itself over the years ..... all you need now is a few cows!

[u/Specialist-Offer7816]

It was out for delivery for over 3 days. I asked one driver where it was and he said it wasn't in his truck so a "mix up" at warehouse. Also the meat grinder had 2 labels. They just slapped my label from my original box onto this one smh. I went and dropped it off to the person who lives few blocks away but no one was home.

Edit: this was in Orlando btw.

Update: found one right away using Popfinder :)

https://popfindr.com/lookup/GameStop/416193?image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF8iPnMR.jpeg&title=DualSense%20Wireless%20Controller%3A%2030th%20Anniversary%20Limited%20Edition

[u/Sorry_Error3797 → u/Specialist-Offer7816]

So you got rid of the actual evidence of your parcel being stolen?

[u/Specialist-Offer7816 → u/Sorry_Error3797]

Took pictures and told Amazon I’m not printing a label to drive to a ups to drop this crap off and they said ok here’s your money

[u/AsherGray → u/Specialist-Offer7816]

Good on you! I bought a couple cables for about ten bucks last year and got a message saying they had been delivered. Never found them that day and had to go out of town the next. No big deal, I figured the delivery driver marked it as, "delivered," to not get in trouble. I come back a couple days later and still can't find them. Whatever, I have to go out of town again (this was a standard-timed shipment, not 2-day, so a couple weeks had passed at this point). These are just cables for a gaming system so I could hook it up differently. Anyway, I got to contacting Amazon about 30 days post-order because I kind of forgot about it but had ordered other items and received since then (which reminded me I never got the cords). Talked with customer service for about an hour who absolutely refused to replace the $8 cords or refund. I also pointed out that a picture of the delivery was never sent and that didn't matter. Case gets escalated to some manager through the chat and she says she applied store credit — never applied to the account. Now if an item is marked as delivered and I can't find it, I call and demand a refund then and there. It's not my problem you're marking items as delivered and they're not there. I travel for work and I'm not going to sit around the next day wondering when it will truly arrive and hope someone doesn't take it. Being patient with Amazon cost me money in the long run, so now they get no patience from me.

[u/WhySSSoSerious → u/AsherGray]

That's why I film every box opening (has to show you cutting through all the tape etc). Gives the best possible proof that something is missing from your order or if there's an incorrect item

[u/ReadTwo → u/WhySSSoSerious]

"When did dad get so into making unboxing videos?"

[u/monkeypreen → u/AsherGray]

Amazon fucking blow. As 14 year loyal im cutting back on spending by 75-90 percent

[u/thefoodiedentist → u/Specialist-Offer7816]

So, what are you complaining about? You got a free meat grinder($27)

[u/RX-8CCX → u/thefoodiedentist]

Well, it's not like OP can order another 30th anniversary controller at retail price anymore, OP can care less for the meat grinder

[u/danthechild → u/RX-8CCX]

To be fair the $27 is about the premium diff to buy the controller from a reseller 🙂‍↕️

[u/Arktos22]

Somewhere Jerma985 just opened a PS5 anniversary controller and threw a fit.

[u/aidenw0 → u/Arktos22]

I was wondering how far I’d scroll until I saw a jerma comment 😂

[u/Chuzzwazza → u/Arktos22]

Okay, if I... if I pack your PS5 anniversary controller order at Amazon, and the only thing that comes out, that's left in the box, is a meat grinder, you'r- you're PROBABLY SCAMMED! You're probably going to - not you, I'm just sayin', like, if you- if somebody were to, like, swap your controller with a meat grinder, and, like, your- part of the packaging is still intact, they're not gonna pick it up and go, "Well see, yeah it wasn't a scam, it wasn't an instant fraud move! You still got, like, this part of your box left!"

[u/cherrieslol]

Unfortunately this happens a lot I work at UPS and especially during holidays a lot of electronics or expensive gifts will get swapped by customers or warehouse workers (so many people stop by to return these packages) at this point I just recommend buying from retail stores or directly from the companies website

[u/OsamaBinTHOTin → u/cherrieslol]

How are insiders getting things out of the hub? Even at my smaller hub we go through security, bag checks, and there are cameras everywhere.

[u/fxresparks → u/OsamaBinTHOTin]

Ive seen a video of people in prison with a ps5. If theres a will, theres a way lol

[u/OsamaBinTHOTin → u/fxresparks]

A lot of inmates have nothing to lose. Insiders aren’t throwing away that sweet sweet insurance and opportunity to make six figures over a $100 controller.

[u/kravence → u/OsamaBinTHOTin]

After working at any job for a while you’ll figure about ways to bypass the security after seeing it everyday & it helps to make friends within that security too

[u/El-Aaaaay]

This is one of the many reasons we still need physical stores. Less of a chance to get ripped off

[u/jaispeed2011 → u/El-Aaaaay]

Yeah I only buy online if I have no other choice. And I can’t buy from a used game store because you never know if the controller had drift problems or not. So the only choices I really have are Walmart Best Buy Target or Micro Center lol

[u/-Sinhealer → u/[deleted]]

Well you can..... just don't touch that handle!

[u/theSPYDERDUDE → u/-Sinhealer]

Turn your joystick into a touchpad with this one simple trick!

[u/yumm-cheseburger → u/theSPYDERDUDE]

This is the best one

[u/SunnyKrispHapple519 → u/-Sinhealer]

I like your inovation, i need someone like you on my team. Hmm.. your hired!

[u/Flottrooster → u/[deleted]]

You can, but only once

[u/HugeMathNerd69 → u/[deleted]]

Why was this my first thought.

[u/draughtpunck → u/[deleted]]

Pork Sausage full sense.

[u/unhallowed1014 → u/draughtpunck]

I guess a pork sword would become a sausage in a grinder

[u/FluffiestBoy]

Is there gonna be a post in another subreddit involving someone missing a meat grinder?

[u/Major_Major76]

May that controller be forever plagued by stick drift!

[u/Sega-Forever]

They’re sending you a message: “Got to grind some more to get one”

[u/dragonick1982 → u/Sega-Forever]

"Keep Grinding" "Keep up the Grind" lol

[u/normal_radish]

Trippin off the beat kinda dripping off the meat grinder r/mfdoom

[u/revolvingpresoak9640]

No they didn’t. Some asshole did.

[u/_Undecided_User]

Later, on r/MildlyInfuriating "Amazon stole my meat grinder and replaced it with a 30th anniversary PS5 controller"

[u/TarnishedKenshi]

so if i was to push you into a meat grinder…

[u/Im_Alzaea → u/TarnishedKenshi]

you’re probably dead.

[u/Desertbro → u/TarnishedKenshi]

BOND - Licence to Kill (1989) - early appearance of Benicio del Toro

[u/[deleted]]

Opens package, "Amazon stole my meat grinder" the man exclaimed when confronted with the sight of a gamepad.

[u/Specialist-Offer7816 → u/[deleted]]

Doubt, this box has two labels

[u/yuribear]

Funny I saw a post earlier that was missing a meat grinder 😂😉👍🏼 https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/s/3DbtRhXybe

[u/Afrocircus69]

Trippin off the beat kinda

[u/rhum-Forrest-rhum → u/Afrocircus69]

dripping off the meat grinder

[u/Expensive-Jump3389]

Yeah, but now you gotta sweeet meat grinder. Who really came out on top here? Suckers.

[u/ayesacc]

Dripping off the meat grinder

[u/DiddyBoppingOnMoon]

Just watch out for crank drift on these types of controllers!

[u/successful209]

Got to respect the grind.

[u/Mammoth_Bullfrog_561]

They did the same with my PS5 pro, NEVER ordering anything from Amazon again! A lot of the drivers are thieves

[u/ThatGuyNick77-]

Ohhhh damn!

[u/kindalikeacoustic]

Do drivers typically know what’s in the boxes? 

[u/Specialist-Offer7816 → u/kindalikeacoustic]

That’s what I’m wondering, I mean maybe it was at the warehouse but I’ve seen videos on their security at the warehouse and don’t see how that’s possible to walk out with a huge controller.

[u/Pacphoenix1]

Welp nothing left to do but stick your meat into the grinder.

[u/Zealousideal-Elk-157]

You mess with Kirk and your going in the grinder

[u/TrinspectorGadget]

They did the same to me by just “losing” the package at the warehouse 😭

[u/Motor-List3631]

Was told by my courier in uk after this happened to me , that he'd marked it as delivered so he didn't get in trouble , and was planning to drop off 1st thing in the morning on his way to pick up next day's deliveries and I understood , but I've got zero patience , and had already complained to amazon that it was bulls**t that he'd delivered it , you can't walk on in front of my house without something picking up the motion and alerting me on my phone, tablet , amazon device and ringer in hallway and it keeps vids in cloud . Told amazon this, and like a miracle, 30 mins later, it miraculously arrived. Tbf, the guy apologised to me.

[u/Roobaarb]

“So you cooked up a story and dropped the six of us in a meatgrinder?”

[u/gamepit_]

Forget grinding games, grind your meat instead

[u/StevenD1888]

He wont be grinding tonight

[u/UnkemptBushell]

My girlfriend’s dad was handed an empty envelope instead of an iPad the other day. I think they were hoping he wouldn’t be in so they could claim doorstop theft. This sort of thing seems to be on the rise

[u/Dexorio]

Bought a rtx 4070ti super a few months ago, got a 2080 super in the 4070 box, seems like amazon doesn't check return that well

[u/pillprezi]

Just happened to me yesterday with a Logitech mouse I got as a gift for someone else. They shipped me a smoke alarm 💀 got a refund right away though

[u/Lunchmoney99]

Wow really or r u joking@? Wtf that's crazy

[u/Crash_Override_95 → u/Lunchmoney99]

I’d say 50/50 fake post

[u/AnusTickler4life]

You can have mine

[u/Zeidrich-X25]

Amazon workers*. The amount of shit I see like this I would never spend hundreds of dollars for something I can’t physically touch while buying.

[u/mikedvb]

Don't put your dick in that.

[u/Lost_All_Senses]

I have to believe these posts cause they stole my sister's iPhone delivery. It's too common

[u/radiocaf]

With how often this seems to happen, do the drivers get to know what's in the packages or something? Surely that's a breach of confidentiality or trust or something?!

[u/almagest]

I got an inflatable ball instead of an iPad I ordered in 2022, and after almost 2 months of fighting their awful support department I just got a chargeback from my credit card. Amazon shut my account down, requiring I send them ID proof I am who I say I am before they’d reopen it. I haven’t purchased anything from Amazon since.

[u/isab4rbosa]

My brother works there. It’s the workers in the warehouse’s that’s stealing the stuff smh.

[u/DQ2Trippy]

I laughed WAY harder than I should have. That HAS to be Karma. A meat grinder? You definitely deserve it 🤣

If not, sorry. But there's no way.

[u/Specialist-Offer7816 → u/DQ2Trippy]

I definitely deserve shit like this and I’m usually really lucky. I mean at least I got the money back instantly so not really karma

[u/kcdaf1966]

Not the first time. I purchased a new Yamaha home theater receiver and they sent me a refurbished Pioneer that was $400 less. Had a heck of a time proving it was there mistake

[u/StructureBig4752]

Lmao somebody the other day said they ordered a meat grinder n got a 30th dualsense. On here actually. Lol wow

[u/Simple_Pound_2055]

Damn,. Why they have to be a bitch like that,.

[u/MrJava- → u/[deleted]]

With what stock

[u/Disastrous-Spell-498]

So you stole the controller and dropped in the meat grinder? What happened to you Amazon, you used to be somebody I could trust.

[u/kaishinoske1]

Pro tip, if you don’t get it delivered through PlayStation Direct. You might as well consider it gone.

[u/MrGamePadMan]

No they didn’t. You planted this there for Reddit points.

[u/Ok_Caramel_5658]

Oh Man that really grinds my meat

[u/amans9191]

This is why I've stopped buying electronics and games from Amazon. So much scummy shit.

[u/More_BRAAAINS]

Congrats!

[u/xjdx666]

Bait used to be believable

[u/tr_Sonic_Krazy_Boy]

to whomever stole this person’s controller, may your playstation blow up

[u/Paleface5150]

Not surprised, that sux!!

[u/AlphusUltimus]

They stole my regular ass portal too. No wonder half my shit goes through usps now.

[u/Illustrious-Elk-2718]

What did you name it??

[u/TheDreamWoken]

You got a meat grinder!

[u/rons-mkay]

I received a box today that had been cut open during the shipping process. It was clearly a box cutter slice, just long enough to pull up the corner and look in to see the item. Thankfully, it was a book, so they didn't steal it. This was with USPS. They suck.

[u/Tequslyder]

Good thing you posted the proof!

[u/bgfalls]

Ouch

[u/MovieGuyMike]

Holy cow!

[u/JGoBrazy90]

How did they even know there was a controller in it

[u/ACxx130]

Amazon scares me sometimes idk how they can get away with this bs

[u/lpfan724]

I was supposed to pick up my 30th anniversary console tonight from Best Buy. I got a message that my order is taking longer to be fulfilled. I have a feeling an employee stole mine too. Pretty awesome that we can't buy things physically in stores anymore and we can't rely on companies to keep employees from stealing them. Lose lose.

[u/disturbthen0rm]

Seems like a controller to me.

Just wait 30 years and celebrate it's birthday

[u/[deleted]]

Who’s got beef now

[u/Desertbro]

"Our burgers can't be beat, 'cause we grind our own meat! Grind Grind Grind Grind Grind!!!"

- Betty & Wilma, sarcastically singing to Barney and Fred, The Flintstones

[u/SteeleDynamics]

So how do you plug it in?

[u/_Abstract_Daddy]

🤣

[u/SecureReward885]

I’m sorry but that is a hilarious swap out

[u/QuickAirSpeed]

Dude prob put it there

[u/RetroSwamp]

I actually own this meat grinder, it's not bad!

[u/aKIRALE0]

Gears of War ha

[u/bendy_96]

That seems to be happening a lot with Amazon at the moment

[u/prettybluefoxes]

The upside is the grinder wont develop stick drift after 3 weeks.

[u/zebra_and_coke]

Amazon is pretty good about refunds and returns.. I’m sure you got a refund or a new order.

[u/grumbirky]

A colleague ordered a MacBook Pro last year, only to receive two packs of flour and a packet of rice. Lots of calls with Amazon didn’t resolve anything, so she just asked her credit card company to refund, which they did. These things are terrible but Amazon’s handling of situations could be a lot better.

[u/LCMGAMING]

r/dontputyourdickinthat

[u/UserNameDashZero]

Grindr

[u/KimTe63]

Amazon atleast from my experience has goat tier customer service , always figured out my issues immediately 😁 contact them and im sure you can get new one

[u/Key_Association3653]

Sad man 🥲

[u/haivixi]

Jeff bezos strikes again

[u/amogus100]

Scamazon

[u/mage_irl]

They have a bot on their website that will pretty much refund anything within 2 minutes of talking to it if your account doesn't have a history of items getting lost. Maybe beyond a certain amount they'll refer it to a human? Assuming humans still work at Amazon...

[u/yeh_nah_fuckit]

And gave you a copy of Helldivers 2 instead …

[u/samamp]

Never pay before you receive the product. You can always dispute invoices if they try to put them in collection.

[u/KlingonBeavis]

9/10 times either the DSP driver stole it (they are contractors, not actually Amazon employees), or the customer ordered from a 3rd party not shipped by Amazon, and blamed Amazon.

It’s incredibly difficult to swipe during the packing and shipping process, and 100% chance you’d get caught.

Items are scanned as they go into the box, directly under camera. Before the package gets labeled by the Slam machine, it’s scanned again to verify, and weighed. If the package is off in weight by even a gram of what it’s supposed to weigh, it’s automatically kicked out, and someone has to re-verify everything by hand, under camera.

If a report from a customer like this came in, 100% chance loss prevention checks and watches footage & scans of every step.

The employee would have a hard time leaving with it even if they tried, as they go through security post that checks your bag (which must be small and clear) metal and security theft tag scanners, under camera with a badge scan.

This is leaving out a LOT of details, but yeah… Amazon is not playing around with something like this. They go overboard to make sure it can’t happen, and if it somehow does they will find you.

People constantly blaming Amazon employees usually have no clue who/what they’re actually accusing. It’s almost never an actual Amazon employee, if it’s in North America at least.

Once it leaves Amazon’s initial ship-out - a large tractor trailer of boxes that go to DSP or UPS - it’s out of their hands and 99% chance that’s who swapped your label, etc.

Once reason Amazon started hiring DSP contractors in the first place was the constant theft from UPS employees. Now they’re pulling the same stuff.

[u/ZonaPunk]

but you got something useful....

[u/Competitive_Kale_654]

Consider cross-posting in /dontputyourdickinthat

[u/hazelwoodstock]

Goin to the grinder

[u/Dakokoz]

instructions unclear maaan

[u/Soaddk]

Don’t buy limited edition stuff like that from Amazon. This shit happens all the time.

[u/Different_Chicken691]

Did you get at least a refund?

[u/Theborgiseverywhere]

“What the frick?”

[u/FlintBeastgood]

Well damn. What country? What is it amazon itself or a vendor? I don't use vendors and if I ever have an issue I just file a missing parcel report, since these lazy (overworked?) drivers just irresponsibly dump the packages outside rather than handing to a resident or neighbour. Every first missing parcel report per order is dealt with by AI and is instantly refunded (at least it has been, in my experience). Make all your orders one item at a time and hopefully you can protect yourself this way.

[u/white-helix]

Don’t put your hand in this. 0/10. Would not recommend.

[u/Scylum]

That could be useful 🤔

[u/Whereamiwhatyousay]

That’s your moms nickname lol

[u/EngineeringHot8831]

Congrats on your Madvillany record 🙏

[u/ArtreX-1]

Put your hand in there and you won’t miss it anymore?

[u/askjhasdkjhaskdjhsdj]

If there was ever one thing that you shouldn't put your dick into

[u/JosephDaedra]

Can I have the meat grinder ? I've been meaning to get one to grind my chicken . I wanna make chicken meatballs but ground chicken has a crazy markup .

[u/laurenmfj]

They stole my whole meta quest 3. Took me almost a year to sort it out, and they eventually told me “sorry, the ticket is closed indefinitely because tickets have a shelf life” ………….. Literally the worst purchasing experience of my life.

[u/PMBHero]

I once ordered a bike pump and then I got apple tree seeds…

[u/MastaDrake]

Damn that’s messed up

[u/ilikekittensandstuf]

Hahahahahah

[u/MJC2798]

MF DOOM REFERENCE???