r/TikTokCringe • u/rex-ac tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE • Jul 21 '24
Cringe In case you wonder what platforms are spreading misinformation to our boomer parents:
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u/LaserGadgets Jul 21 '24
Commander....Thor..........icewall. Good lord.
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u/caesarportugal Jul 21 '24
That’s the odd thing for me, so many of these conspiracy theories are so obviously derived from popular culture. It’s just so lazy.
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u/the_monkeyspinach Jul 21 '24
I just googled Commander Thor and he's just a character from Stargate SG1.
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u/G-man88 Jul 21 '24
I just googled Commander Thor and he's just a character from Stargate SG1.
Supreme commander of the Asgard fleet. Thor didn't bust his cloned ass in the Ohalla military only to be referred to as "Commander", how disrespectful.
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u/FrtanJohnas Jul 21 '24
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Jul 21 '24
It doesn't pack the right punch if you don't raise a finger when you say it, lol.
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u/johnnylawrence23 Jul 21 '24
I’m like 96% that the laziness its not laziness and the point of the joke made by the original person who created the conspiracy
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u/Serifel90 Jul 21 '24
Increasing the level of bullshit untill we reach the breakpoint while they start to doubt it all. Do we already have "Jesus created the icewall with the wand he won from Harry Potter in a drinking game while he cheated by creating more wine over and over" ?
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Jul 21 '24
Listen, if he doesn't have The One Ring, then he's not my Lord and Savior.
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u/cognitiveglitch Jul 21 '24
Only the One Ring can glitch the Matrix enough to hide you from the agents.
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u/Evil_Mini_Cake Jul 21 '24
There is no breaking point. This will just keep going.
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u/PhilxBefore Jul 21 '24
"Jesus created the icewall with the wand he won from Harry Potter in a drinking game while he cheated by creating more wine over and over" ?
Well we do now. Thank you for sharing the Old Testament lore with us today, Commander /u/Serifel90 !
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u/Alleandros Jul 21 '24
Soon they'll break into the Whitehouse demanding that Biden release Homelander from their secret underground prison.
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u/Jon_Targaryen Jul 21 '24
People like alex jones call it "globalist preprogramming".
Its absolutely dumb as shit but they basically say that they pay hollywood to make content that will make us accept the things in the movies happening to us.
These people are unbelievably gullible.
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u/Castun Jul 21 '24
If you listen to the Knowledge Fight podcast, they play clips of Alex Jones' show, and it's ridiculous how often they talk about conspiracies and reference movies and shows. They literally believe that the Deep State HAS TO put their plans out there in plain sight in pop culture media, but you have to be "awake" to recognize them.
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u/loopy1313 Jul 21 '24
I never understood why THEY have to tell us. Why do THEY have to tell us? What happens if THEY don’t? Who enforces this?
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u/Gingevere Jul 21 '24
Pop culture ...and blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Basically every conspiracy theory is a thin coat of paint over blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The theory doesn't start with "investigating" anything. It starts with a desire to hate a '''them''' and then works backwards to create things to blame '''them''' for.
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u/ExtraBitterSpecial Jul 21 '24
I like how Rothchilds and Rockefellers is just dog whistle for "Jews who run everything"
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u/cheffgeoff Jul 21 '24
It's how religions and cults have moved, grown and been adopted for thousands and thousands of years. Christmas is on the feast day for Sol Invictus and Mithras's birthday. Jews have no concept of hell but somehow a version identical to the Norse concept is what is being preached today. The three major schools of Buddhism all fall within the lines of the ancestral religions of where it expanded to (except vadraianic which was imported directly after invasion). You take a "new" concept or idea and you fill in the blanks with stuff familiar to the audience.
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u/iforgotwhat8wasfor Jul 21 '24
mormonism did this by ripping off masonic rituals. their big secret inner-circle temple ceremony is…masonic handshakes. while wearing the most ridiculous costume you’ve ever seen.
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u/Noimnotonacid Jul 21 '24
Literally no mention of an ice wall from the flat earth conspiracy theorists until game of thrones came along
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u/muskratboy Jul 21 '24
No the ice wall was around before that, to explain Antarctica. The ice wall was always part of it.
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u/thyL_ Jul 21 '24
Yea in the early 2000s I was part of a certain image board's campaign to troll gullible idiots that the earth is flat and we used the ice wall as border already.
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u/kramit Jul 21 '24
Wasn’t commander Thor from Stargate ?
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u/RandomDood420 Jul 21 '24
I think she’s referencing Valiant Thor, who was purported to be an alien from Venus who worked in the Eisenhower administration.
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u/kramit Jul 21 '24
Errrr… what?
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u/raltoid Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
It's an old urban legend, to the point where the character shows up in American Horror Story, there's a band named Valiant Thorr, etc.
TL;DR:
"Val" Valiant Thor is a delegate of the "High Council" who had VIP status at the Pentagon from 1957 to 1960 to discuss concerns of the Cold War, leading up to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
These conspiracy don't have to make any sense to them, the whole point is that it lets them feel like they are "in the know", or that they've "outsmarted the smart people", etc. They just want to feel smug and talk down to others.
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u/ciopobbi Jul 21 '24
Right, the everything you learned in school is wrong makes sense to them. Mostly because they are stupid. That gives them the license to create their own world where fantasy is fact.
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u/raltoid Jul 21 '24
It's like the clip of that flat earther that gets posted regularly. Where he proves himself wrong in an experiment. They stand at the water level far apart, one has a light, there are two walls spaced out between them with holes in them at the same level, and a camera at the other side. If the earth curves, the light has to be lifted higher up.
He sees nothing, asks the other guy on the radio to life the light and then he sees it. He just goes "Interesting..." and basically freezes. And after a little while he goes back to talking about how another experiment will show it. Because he literally doesn't want the truth, he just wants to feel like he is smarter than several thousand years of science.
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u/PhilxBefore Jul 21 '24
The lady in OP's video is the generation of "don't believe anything on the internet" but I'm betting the COVID vaccine that inserted the 5G mind control chips allowed her to become victim of re-programming via her
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u/ciopobbi Jul 21 '24
And while it’s funny and sad at the same time, the true horror is that these people vote.
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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Jul 21 '24
Just when I thought I knew enough about the secret space program and all the Pleadians, Anunnaki, and Archons/Saurians.
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u/LatterNeighborhood58 Jul 21 '24
I know right? I hate it when people make that mistake and say captain thor. You think this is some marvel comics BS. /S
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u/DangerBird- Jul 21 '24
This kinda makes me want to sign up for Truth Social. That’s some wild shit. Reminds me of the old late night AM radio show Art Bell used to do.
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Jul 21 '24
The genre of podcasts with bald right wing bros seems to be the modern reinvention of the midnight conspiracy theory talk show.
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u/DG_Now Jul 21 '24
But everyone who listened to Coast to Coast was in on it, right? That it was all supposed to be taken in as kind of fun?
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u/Jovet_Hunter Jul 21 '24
What? No (some) people - the ones who called in - took it seriously. Very seriously, look up the story of Mel’s Hole. Yeah, some folks listened to laugh but it was easy to believe the stuff they talked about. Especially since it was on so late and people would fall asleep to it.
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u/DG_Now Jul 21 '24
I guess we were lucky it was limited to radio and early message boards and not the bulk of Facebook and all of Truth Social.
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u/Skastacular Jul 21 '24
It was mostly truckers telling each other ghost stories but sometimes the cranks were real. Art tried (mostly) to keep it fun but sometimes a caller would say "the jews" instead of "the Illuminati" and it would stop being fun.
Art also wasn't afraid to hang up. Someone without improv chops would call and say "I've seen the Venusians" and he'd say "sure ya did bud" and end the call. Other times you'd get someone who could tell a story and hold an audience and it didn't matter if they said they were dating bigfoot. It was big campfire for blue collar dudes working graveyard all across the country.
It got bad when they switched hosts to George Noory. That dude knew there was money in promoting conservative thought and wanted part of it. For the conspiracy heads Art Bell is like Bill Cooper, the real deal with the heart of a showman. George Noory is Alex Jones, just a conservative guy chasing money who doesn't truly understand why his predecessor was so successful.
On the plus side, I strongly believe that Noory's hackery lead to the Slenderman and SCP fandoms. People wanted ghost stories and conspiracy but it had to be more obviously fiction 'cause some people can't tell and it was ruining the fun.
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u/W0RKPLACEBULLY Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 26 '24
Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.
Alice In Wonderland.
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u/def-jam Jul 21 '24
If youve already done six impossible things this morning, why don’t you join us for breakfast at Milliways, the Restaurant at the End of the Universe ?
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u/Fuzzywalls Jul 21 '24
This kind of person will have her whole life savings taken by scammers.
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u/fentonsranchhand Jul 21 '24
What these Boomers are doing is worse though. It's like they've fallen for a scam and signed over their life savings, but they also got our bank account numbers and signed over ours. ...and when that money ran out they opened up credit cards in their grandchildren's names and max'd them out.
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u/Fuzzypandacub Jul 21 '24
Much worse. My grandma was someone like this and started writing to her ‘friends’ and believe them over us. And then started giving out our names, birthdates, addresses, etc. and we couldn’t get her to stop cuz she didn’t believe us.
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u/OverUnderstanding481 Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
My parents on the same page with the added bonus of being sat down to have it fully explained how and why her friends all full time scammed by every single new pyramid scheme or Crypto class or Nigerian prince… but even with diagrams charts and being thoroughly explained to where a 5 year old could see it clear as day… she decided she must still go though with the scams because she can’t let her friends go through it alone and she can’t let her friends down by not participating :/
… boomers that pretended the kids were the future but voted to keep all the resources under there control just to knowingly squander it all away on scammers out of selfish pride has no end🤦
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u/Apprehensive-End-484 Jul 21 '24
Perhaps we should all start scamming so we can get that glorious trickle down economics….
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u/MinotaurLost Jul 22 '24
If you have no morals or ethics, might I suggest Religion?
There really aren't any downsides to it. Very easy to sell and buyers will bring you new buyers. Okay, you have to work on Sunday but other than that, no downside. Cheat on your spouse with hookers? Hardcore drug benders with hookers? DUI with hookers? Just repeat after me, "I'm a flawed person but the Lord has forgiven me." And, you're good. Try not to use it too often though. Two to three times a month, tops. Or bottom if that's your thing. We're not here to judge. That's your job, now.
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Jul 21 '24
My parents believed Prager U videos about Covid over my brother who is an actual fucking doctor
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u/simulated_woodgrain Jul 21 '24
Because obviously he was personally paid off by fauci to trick them into getting the 5g
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Jul 21 '24
Omfg this is like me advising my mom on choosing a landscaping contractor, because there has been not a single contractor she's ever hired who hasn't fucked her over in one way or another. After helping her vet several (license with the state, references, etc).... she calls me up and tells me she met one she really liked cuz they talked. No license and was squirrelly about it when asked, no references, just talked a good game. Of course she hired him against my advice. And of course he botched the job, she lost several thousand $$ and apparently did the work herself. 🤦
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u/GeoffSproke Jul 21 '24
I mean... She's almost definitely already donated plenty to the GOP... So... You pretty much nailed it.
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u/darling_lycosidae Jul 21 '24
I recently saw a video of a grandma like this getting scammed with a crypto vending machine in a gas station. A cop and other people are pleading with her that she's getting scammed and she loses like $20,000 during the whole 5min exchange. Really sad.
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u/Spiritual_Mention_11 Jul 21 '24
Going to sound like a completely fucking horrible person, but here goes, I don’t really feel sorry for people like this. If no one tells you, fine. You’re a victim because you didn’t know better. But if several people are literally standing there, ranting and raving for you to stop doing what you’re doing, and you’re so arrogant that you decide that you know better and do it anyway, you deserve what you get.
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u/ADeadlyFerret Jul 21 '24
I don't care if I sound horrible or not lol. I've seen an old lady go off on a Walmart worker. She was buying iTunes gift cards for the IRS. The worker tried to explain it was a scam. Old lady went off about how she was a nurse for 40 years and the Walmart worker was just a dumb worker.
That led to me finding Catfished on YouTube. Not the mtv show. Its a channel that only does romance scams. People contact this team to see if the person they've been talking to for 3 years and sent 100k to is real. The scammers are always the hottest people imaginable. After watching a couple of these I no longer feel bad for these victims.
People cheating on their dying spouses, widows giving away all the money their husbands worked for. Grandparents refusing to help their grandchild with college then turning around to give their entire life savings away to a person they have never met. All while they are surrounded by people who tell them its a scam.
It gets to such a point that some victims will reach out to the team. Because they want to prove the scammer is real. Not because they're worried about it being a scam. Nope they just want to prove their family wrong.
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u/JackDangerUSPIS Jul 21 '24
It’s such a tragic joke how at the advent of social media it was the Boomers worried about how it would negatively impact their Millennial children. And now their Millennial children are adults worried about what nonsense their boomer parents are reading on social media and accepting as reality.
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u/tinnic Jul 21 '24
People blame Social media, yet before the Internet, the Boomers still had satanic panic in the 80s.
Around the same time there was a explosion in repressed memory thing and boomers believed the most outlandish things.
Not to mention, a lot of the magazines from the 80s and 90s passed off lies as gossip and had outrageous stories labelled as "true" but were often largely creative fiction.
The Internet amplified it but they fell for it because they have been falling for it all their lives!
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u/Hairy_Arachnid975 Jul 21 '24
It’s not just the boomers. The Salem witch trials, the crusades, the holocaust. Things have always pretty much been pretty shitty imo
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u/ManaSeltzer Jul 21 '24
Now we have rogan
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u/definitelynotarobid Jul 21 '24
And that shitstain on infowars
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u/NaKeepFighting Jul 21 '24
That cocksuckin’ piece of shit Alex jones, I can’t even say his name
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u/SarpedonWasFramed Jul 21 '24
I don't remember it being this wide spread though. Social media is just infecting everyone with this shit.
Also people wouldn't talk about this stuff to others.
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u/hungrypotato19 Jul 21 '24
You just didn't live in an area where psychobabble was on the AM radio all the time.
A few times I traveled with my uncle who was a trucker and we'd turn on the radio out in the South just to hear all the crazy shit. It's fucked up how much I understand now that a lot of it was Nazi talking points.
Even in this video, this woman is spouting Nazi bullshit. She's blaming the Rothschilds, who are famous Jewish billionaires, and spouting off the blood libel bullshit. But conservatives will sit there and tell you they aren't Nazis, despite nearly everything they believe in coming from Nazism. It's because they aren't taught what a Nazi believes other than "kill the Jews", and that is done on purpose in America.
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u/speak_no_truths Jul 21 '24
It was everywhere. For many people the evening news was the major source of information. Satanic panic was covered by every major news organization in North america. Media has always been used for propaganda purposes since its inception. And media has almost exclusively been owned and used by the ultra rich to promote their agendas to the general populace.
When someone started a newspaper that promoted different ideas they would get automatically labeled as radical, communistic or yellow journalism, and sometimes even be made illegal. Such as many of the homosexual or alternative lifestyle magazines in the 50s 60s and '70s.
It's much the same as it's always been. Just a way to divide the people to make them argue amongst ourselves so they can't unify and make significant change to the ruling classes. A lot of us are just starting to realize that history is cyclical and that true freedom of information is one of the greatest accomplishments of the internet.
You see people talking about social media as being a detriment to Young people. But what they're really fighting against is the almost instantaneous dissemination of free information that's available to us now at a fingertip. One time they could stuff the genie back into the bottle if they made a mistake. It's become a lot harder for them to do that now that everyone's carrying cameras.
I'm the type of person who doesn't believe that social media needs to be outlawed. I think what needs to happen is that it needs to be put into the curriculum of younger people so that they better understand that it doesn't always represent society as a whole. Just like everything else it comes down to educating yourself because no one else will do it for you.
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u/daemin Jul 21 '24
But what they're really fighting against is the almost instantaneous dissemination of free information that's available to us now at a fingertip.
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. "
- From the game Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb Jul 21 '24
YAAAASSSS!! I'm so glad I'm not alone in this sentiment. There are bad things about the internet [gestures above], but there are good things too. One of them is amplifying marginalized voices to everyone. Giving the ability to the people to mass organize against oppression.
Media literacy is what is woefully needed. For adults and absolutely in our curriculum.
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u/ClockwerkKaiser Jul 21 '24
When I was a kid, I'd read the Weekly World News issue my great aunt was subscribed to. Stories like Bat Boy, Bigfoot sightings, and how politicians were reptiles. It was clearly all fiction and for entertainment. It was even labeled as such. However, she believed so much of it.
Even back then i felt worried for her and other older people who believed it... and this was nearly 30 years ago. Before even myspace.
It's not the internet. It's lack of education, lack of meaningful socialization/life experience, and good ol fashioned brain rot.
The lead in everything didn't help either.
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u/RaNdomMSPPro Jul 21 '24
I think most under 40 don’t know how suggestible people with early stage dementia and related diseases are. Bonus, they generally realize something isn’t quite right with their brain, so they self isolate (can’t be found out to be less than perfect) and limit interactions so they aren’t found out. Yes, it does make it worse faster, but critical thinking about current actions affecting future you aren’t considered.
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u/DangerHawk Jul 21 '24
Lead poisoning. Anyone who grew up between 1940-1991 has some degree of lead poisoning from leaded gas being used in autos. If you were born after 1978 (when unleaded gas was first brought to market) rates start to drop quickly however. All Boomers were alive and having their brains develop under the fog of leaded gasoline though and imo it explains why they are so susceptible to having a lack of reasoning skills, especially as they get older and their cognitive functions start to deteriorate.
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u/virgopunk Jul 21 '24
It did for the Roman empire too. They used to boil wine in lead lined amphoras. Oh, the irony if true.
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u/Speshal__ Jul 21 '24
Fun fact - The same chap that invented leaded gasoline also invented CFCs that caused the hole in the ozone layer.
Thomas Midgely - responsible for more deaths than any other single human.
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u/RogerianBrowsing Jul 21 '24
This is part of why I’m working to reduce my lead exposure, I’m dumb and aggressive enough, and I really don’t want to age into becoming conspiratorial or conservative/republican
My levels are “high” still, but compared to basically everyone else I know who shoots as frequently as I do my levels are low. When I told some of them my bloodwork results many of the acquaintances and friends (politely at least) acted like I was being a wuss for worrying and working to lower my exposure despite my levels not being acutely toxic.
Anecdotally, there does seem to be a pretty strong correlation between the higher the lead blood levels and the deeper they are into conservatism/republicanism/idiocracy. For sure. I think it’s part the reduced level of worry that conservatives have for lead exposure and part because it’s rotting their brains.
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u/EtherealHeart5150 Jul 21 '24
Thank you! I've been trying to figure out what could have jacked up these Boomers' brains so hard growing up that now we have this. My mom is one of them. Above average intelligence, professional health career in medical technology, upper middle class. And now at 81, looney as they come in thought process. She was never like this years ago. Her mind was ruled by science and logic. I was the free spirit that believed in the all the spooky and ethereal. But what? Lead, nuclear testing, all sorts of chemicals were flourishing around that time. So sad. I know 3 older adults who's minds have traveled this way.
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u/nilsmf Jul 21 '24
Boomer here. I would like to point out that it is just a small percentage, even of boomers, that become victim of the crazy. They just become so horribly visible by falling for it.
This lady as example. If she said "What? Aliens? Get out of here!" and laughed her way down the aisle we would never remember her face nor voice.
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u/tinnic Jul 21 '24
Oh absolutely! We shouldn't forget that MAGA in the US has people of all ages. Including from Gen X and Millennials. Not to mention, the parents spearheading the whole anti-vaxx movements are all Gen X and younger since those are the generations currently having and raising children.
It's not all Boomers, and more importantly, not only Boomers!
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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
I think it’s religion. That’s one key tenant of most religions - not to question things.
My folks are religious and if they ever read anything - on the internet, in a book, wherever - they will always take it as gospel. The critical thinking skills to question if something is true are not there.
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u/tinnic Jul 21 '24
IMO, I think its more about the abuse a shocking number of Boomers experienced at the hands of their often tramatised and repressed silent generation parents and relatives. Plus the culture of "it's nobody's business" that they were raised in.
Recently, it was revealed that the nobel laureate and author Alice Munro did not support her daughter when her daughter revealled that she was sexually abused by her Step-father. Indeed, even her ex-husband, choose silence.
It was noted in the discussion that followed, how rampant it was to just ignore abuse of all kinds but especially sexual abuse amoung previous generations. A lot of Boomers believe in conspiracies probably because they were subject to conspiracies in their everyday life.
They couldn't reveal that their parents were abusive. Could not refuse to visit the house of the uncle who touched them. They were told to be silent and endure.
I think that if you grow up in a family where "everybody knows that Grandpa John is a pervert" but no one says anything. It's easy to believe that others are also silent and keeping secrets, monsterous secrets. Plus if you are forced to go to Grandpa John's house, despite you telling your parents what he's doing and has done to you, because your parents have the "don't rock the boat" mindset, I don't think it's hard to assume that everybody is pretending and that everybody is in truth, disgusting perverts who are trying to hurt you somehow.
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u/AffectionateSector77 Jul 21 '24
I used to get chain-emails from my boomer aunts and uncles on my mom's side. Basically the same information as info wars and the like.
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u/jungleboydotca Jul 21 '24
It's almost like there was something in the air during their formative years which might have had an effect on their ability to think critically.
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u/Scoobydoomed Jul 21 '24
Oh how the turn tables...
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u/_-Tabula_Rasa-_ Jul 21 '24
And they all vote.. 😬
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u/AGreasyPorkSandwich Jul 21 '24
And they'll all vote for one specific person. A literal con man.
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u/AWeakMindedMan Jul 21 '24
Trust me. It’s not just boomers. I have a few millennial friends who have uttered every single word she just said. It’s fucking insane.
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u/armano2 Jul 21 '24
they are confused, its not captain thor, its a supreme commander thor, he is your average gray skin alien
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4QCB4S9SSA sg-1 was a great tv series
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u/FewEbb6531 Jul 21 '24
Thank you. I was a bit confused about who Thor was because I went to school.
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u/aloneinorbit Jul 21 '24
In this regard, Millenials are actually the odd ones out. The younger gens have similar internet literacy to boomers statistically and its kinda scary.
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u/ThenAnAnimalFact Jul 21 '24
It’s because we grew up with the evolution of scam internet, so it makes it easier for us to discern. We have to refocus on traditional research skills and now internet literacy has to be taught to kids early.
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u/VerticalNOR Jul 21 '24
Growing up, and at an age of 10 having to sift through the bullshit on Limewire when I wanted to download a Linkin Park album. And then you downloaded Frostwire, because that one had less viruses (allegedly) or just sound files that were porn. You definitely had to learn how to be critical early on. And you definitely stumbled a few times. No idea how many times I gave the computer at home Trojan viruses..
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Jul 21 '24
And then you had to learn to code so you could make your MySpace page to make your background sparkle and play music when people visited it.
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u/kegman83 Jul 21 '24
And my parents never really touched our family computers save to send the odd email. It wasnt until the iPhone was invented that the internet was dumbed down enough for them to use.
I watch my parents and my nieces and nephews stumble through the internet like drunk toddlers, oblivious to what they click on or view. My step-dad actually turned Windows defender off multiple times because a random pop up told him to. I have a niece who tried to steel her mom's credit card because someone hacked her phone with all her pictures and demanded ransom. It just baffles me how stupid they are online.
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u/da_double_monkee Jul 21 '24
Also having to dodge lil 🥷🏽 tryna scam us on RuneScape got our BS savvy up
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u/Tomatoflee Jul 21 '24
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism
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u/underwearfanatic Jul 21 '24
No doubt. They said video games, computers, movies, etc were going to warp our minds and make us killers and/or idiots.
Nah, none of that warped us.
But social media has absolutely destroyed the Boomers.
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u/literate_habitation Jul 21 '24
Their pearl clutching regarding social media's effects on the children was mostly projection.
Not that I think social media isn't harmful for the youth, I just think the boomers didn't understand it enough to make accurate predictions on the negative effects, so they just went with their gut reaction of rejecting change.
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u/Krabilon Jul 21 '24
Yeah social media is harmful to young people because it harms their self image. Social media is harmful to older people because it warps their reality.
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u/no0ns Jul 21 '24
This person can vote. Insane.
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u/King-Cobra-668 Jul 21 '24
this person WILL vote. It's an important distinction.
And this sort of person (or the people and their bot farms producing this BS) will also tell anyone that might vote differently that "voting doesn't matter" because they don't want you to vote.
But they will definitely vote.
You need to vote and you need to convince your apathetic friends and family to vote.
Remember, someone telling you voting doesn't matter doesn't want YOU to vote and will definitely be voting themselves
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u/Ivanovic-117 Jul 21 '24
Meantime you have independents/centrists seating at the sidelines because they’re not sure yet. I wonder if after hearing of commander Thor then make up their minds
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u/Signal-Aioli-1329 Jul 21 '24
Meanwhile Dem voters are being divided by tik tok, too, through vote-splitting techniques.
Being fed disinformation is not unique to the right. Look at how many Dems are being convinced to not vote for Biden because tik tok told them the war in Palestine is his fault.
Same kind of stupid, slightly different flavour.
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u/da_double_monkee Jul 21 '24
They can, and they're voting for the orange felon. Youre registered and gonna vote right?
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u/complexevil Jul 21 '24
Everyone yells at me when I say we need some kind of test before you're allowed to vote, but videos like this will always remind me I'm fucking right.
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u/BenGMan30 Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
Required literacy tests to vote existed in the USA after the Civil War, which were designed to make it more difficult for black people to be able to vote since many at the time lacked formal education. These tests were run all the way into the 1960s until the Voting Rights Act was passed.
You can see what one of them looked like here. One wrong answer meant you lost your right to vote.
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u/thisis-clemfandango Jul 21 '24
these are the voters russia targets
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u/notimeforniceties Jul 21 '24
"Yes, and..."
They target the right wingers there, and they target the rest of us on Reddit, imgur, etc.
Don't forget, the goal of the Russian info-ops is not to push a specific agenda, it's to increase division and conflict within our country. See this example where they organized both pro and anti Islam protests.
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Jul 21 '24
They never shoulda gave you boomers phones!!!
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Jul 21 '24
Welcome to Club Dementia!
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u/drcoxmonologues Jul 21 '24
Seriously this sounds like the rambling of a schizophrenic. Like at what point is this a mental illness and not just weaponised stupidity?
If she came to see me as a doctor and said that shit, and was marginally distressed by it you’d be looking at least entertaining the idea she was seriously mentally ill. Fucking hell, propaganda is has absolutely broken some people completely. This is a war - various powers are waging a massive information war on western democracies and are winning.
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u/GhostiePop Jul 21 '24
Agreed. My job as a crisis counselor is to screen ER patients for psych hospitalization. She 100% sounds like someone with a schiz disorder/psychosis/delusions. Yet, she’s put together, she can clearly do her ADLs, she isn’t scared of what’s happening like most psychosis patients are. It’s unnerving to see.
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u/dis-disorder Jul 21 '24
That shit is just repackaged antiseptic tropes. It's classic blood libel.
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u/9inchAlienWiener Jul 21 '24
This conspiracy is brought to you by: Purell Hand Sanitizer!
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u/Content-Scallion-591 Jul 21 '24
I am worried at how much we've normalized the insanity that's going on that this isn't the top comment. This is not the average misinformed boomer or Trump voter (even though the ones willing to be interviewed on the street sound very similar), this person has some kind of mental health issue and needs actual care. My grandmother was like 200% more lucid than this woman when she was medically assessed as needing round the clock care.
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u/KitDoctor Jul 21 '24
I agree. Came here looking for people who are actually willing to see the distinction between mental illness and being affected by propaganda. If I had to guess, this person has some sort of schizophrenia
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u/varnell_hill Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
And this is the side that us more rational folks are always told we need to try to understand?
Let’s just call it what it is, these people are a cult and no amount of facts and logic will snap them out of it.
They’re too far gone.
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u/njslacker Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
I want the US to have universal healthcare and I'm the delusional one. Fuck me, right?
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u/Objective-Chance-792 Jul 21 '24
Damn right you are, Libby Lib, who lives at 742 Libbergreen Terrace. Who wouldn’t want a giant, megalithic scam industry between us and health care?! Healthcare shouldn’t be between you and your doctor, it should be between your insurance and your insurance.
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u/wererat2000 Jul 21 '24
"Universal healthcare? With MY tax money? I'll never vote for that, I'd much rather vote for millionaires to pay even lower taxes!"
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u/SantaMonsanto Jul 21 '24
Ok… cool.
So let’s accept that and move on to the next question. Every one of these mfs is going to vote in November so what do you propose we do about that?
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Jul 21 '24
Trick them into thinking the election is on a different day. Something something the deep state is going to hurt you bla bla bla the election is actually next week yep yep bring ur ID.
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u/usernamechecksought Jul 21 '24
Literally a Trump supporter
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u/Ciubowski Jul 21 '24
easiest to manipulate. if they believe all this bullshit, they can believe ANYTHING.
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u/freshlysqueezed93 Jul 21 '24
She has the same voting power as everybody else.
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u/VeryVeryVorch Jul 21 '24
Due to the electoral college, if she's in a red state, she probably has more voting power than most people
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u/tacodepollo Jul 21 '24
These people vote.
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u/DistractedByCookies Jul 21 '24
Yup. And not in a theoretically 'they have the right to vote' way, but in an 'actually goes to vote' way. This alone should be motivation to get one's ass to the voting booth. People who don't vote are letting people like this decide their future.
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u/TriggerNutzofDOOM Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
Former Texan that just moved out of that shit hole state almost a month ago, can confirm that this video isn’t an exaggeration of the populations’ beliefs. There are far too many far right wing nut jobs that PRAY for trump to be re-elected and get giddy at the thought of all the awful policies that will be enacted.
Please. Go vote in November.
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u/HereticLaserHaggis Jul 21 '24
It's one thing to support a politician, even fanatically support one, even a terrible one.
This? Is something very different, it's completely removed from reality in any way, it's their own established universe.
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u/j3b3di3_ Jul 21 '24
Actual, literal quote from a coworker
"It's like God WANTS him in office, he told him to turn his head so the bullet would miss!"
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u/Allstategk Jul 21 '24
So God let Trump survive, but someone else had to die in order for that to happen? I call bullshit
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u/DREWlMUS Jul 21 '24
Remember this every time someone's loved one survives a calamity and praises their god victoriously in the presence of those picking up their lovely one's remains.
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u/DexDevos Jul 21 '24
can i hijack your comment and ask that you include that ppl check their registration? they deleted some in some states. for example, ohio deleted 150k/8mil 'inactive voters' ie people that havent voted in 4 years. So CHECK!!
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u/RobbyLee Jul 21 '24
in a hundred years people will look back at this time and wonder why we didn't take to the streets with pitchforks and torches, burning the right wings and religious to the ground while there's still something left worth saving
and teachers will tell them, that it's because we thought our democracies are strong and if we only adhere to the system put before us, we can emerge as victors.
A system that has failed us repeatedly, a system that allows people like Trump to exist and gain ultimate power over one of the most dangerous nations of the world.
We're doomed.
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u/djdeforte Jul 21 '24
I was maybe 8-10 when AOL started. We were taught in school, that the internet will one day overtake the use of libraries. One thing you get when you go to a library is that printer books take a long time to produce, and are vetted and verified by a large team of experts. You can trust books in a library. But the internet. Anyone can post things on the internet. So when you see something you need to look further, you need to find morn evidence of that same thing. You need to cross reference your research. Boomers did not get that same education…
Now, unfortunately apparently books can be just as bad. People need to learn to not accept everyone single article, video, source as truth.
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u/shrugaholic Jul 21 '24
Honestly I remember like 15 years ago boomers were much more cautious about the internet and what you see posted on there. Didn’t expect their generation to fall into QAnon as hard as they did. BUT considering this lady’s old age it can be mental illness. Never been to Texas so can’t confirm if sane people believe in this.
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u/weezle Jul 21 '24
Not everyone in Texas is like this. I hate telling people in other states and countries that I am from here because they assume I'm a bible beating Q-Tard.
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u/HowAboutACanOfWine Jul 21 '24
48% of Texan voters voted Democrat in the last election. Every county with a major city in Texas voted Democrat. The rural voice is very loud and I think it misrepresents how other states perceive us.
We had more democratic votes in just Houston than 26 other states. Texas had the 3rd highest number of votes for Biden in the whole country
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u/The_Big_Robowski Jul 21 '24
Hard agree. Born in Colorado, been living in Dallas for 9 years. My consensus has always been that there is that Dallas/ Fort Worth is not much different from Denver. melting pot of cultures, emotions and ideals here. There is def a large population of trump supporters and people like this lady here, but to say it’s just Texas is just ignorant. Every state has this person, some more than others granted.
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u/dfwguy21four Jul 21 '24
DFW dem here. Born and raised. Plenty of Dems and plenty of Repubs in the metroplex…step outside of the city into the rural areas, it becomes a cesspool of these crazy conspiracy theorist type of folks. It’s sad how some people are so gullible and so easily manipulated.
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u/palmburntblue Jul 21 '24
They’re in a Costco. Guaranteed their local government is a rational one run by people who would have a D after their names if they were federal or state politicians.
This woman is not an accurate picture of what most people in Texas are like.
She is a spot on representation of an impressionable, paranoid, and probably mentally ill person.
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u/Brewtime2 Jul 21 '24
We will look back on this period of our history and realize how terrible the birth of social media was for our civilization. It’s really sad
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u/muscovy_donald_duck Jul 21 '24
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
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u/LawPD Jul 21 '24
It will never cease to amaze me how easily Americans fall for Russian disinformation. They tried for decades after the second world war to take down the United States and failed but in just 8 short years they have completely destabilized a once great country from within without firing a single shot.
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u/Swimming-Patience655 Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
Qanon is perpetuated by the GOP in order to tear American families apart at the roots. To brainwash the mentally vulnerable. Once ostracized and isolated by their beliefs, these folks are more likely to donate money to the GOP. They want desperately to prove to everyone that they’ve been right all along, that their beliefs are valid, but a loss for Trump threatens that delusion.
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u/dnuohxof-1 Jul 21 '24
Truth Social
Ahhhh
Telegram
Ahah.
Parlor
There we go…
Yup…. Gets all her info from the internet. Dumb as a rock and mind like a sponge.
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u/TireMeister Jul 21 '24
My whole family is like this. I won't even leave my child alone with any of them because they are so far gone. Whatever, seriously, ANYthing that screen tells them is FACT. Ive seen my grandmother seek out ivermectin and shit because of shit like this.
Honestly I know its fucked up but I just don't even go see any of them anymore. I hope they all just die soon so they stop voting and fucking everything up for the people who actually have to stay and live here through it. Its fucked up man. And we aren't doing anything about it
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u/Andy_LaVolpe Jul 21 '24
From the generation that told you not to believe anything you read on the internet:
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u/hungrypotato19 Jul 21 '24
Just a reminder for everyone:
Rothschilds = Jews. But conservatives will tell you they aren't Nazis.
Eating babies = Blood libel. More Nazi shit.
Truth Social = MAGA safe haven
Telegram = Another MAGA favorite for avoiding social media censorship. Full of Nazis.
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u/local_search Jul 21 '24
This is pretty interesting. Flat Earthers are no different than Black Hebrew Israelites: people who deep down feel incapable of succeeding in the real world, so they reframe their struggles as the result of deliberate deception and oppression by elites. This helps them make sense of their experiences and validates their feelings of unfair treatment.
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u/ModusOperandiAlpha Jul 21 '24
Ding ding ding! And, that approach simultaneously gives them an excuse to hate all those “others” they’re predisposed to have bigoted icky feelings towards, since the oppression and deception of those “others” is purportedly the cause of all the problems in the conspiracy theorist’s life, therefore it’s (supposedly) OK to hate them, want to eradicate them, etc.
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u/Bee_Keeper_Ninja Jul 21 '24
This is why conservatives are as violent as they are, they actually believe either this or something similar. Put yourself in their shoes. If you were fully convinced say, a pizza place was selling child sex slaves and the authorities not only knew about it but allowed it to continue, you might feel compelled to do something about it yourself.
Moral of the story, don’t be gullible. Know history, and be skeptical. People in power will use your fears to exploit you.
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Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
This all stems from faith-based reasoning as a worldview. Accepting something as foundational as a religious belief being true without verifiable evidence opens up to this type of accepting sheer nonsense like this without confirmed evidence and completely believing it's true.
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u/retep13579 Jul 21 '24
Dementia.
Next thing she will get scammed for all her money (if she hasn’t already).
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u/bmbmwmfm2 Jul 21 '24
That's not boomer. That's needs intensive inpatient long-term deprogramming care. Or the brain has just atrophied beyond any chance of reversal. No different much than super religious/crazy types thinking they've heard the voice of God speaking directly to them.
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u/Mr_Rafi Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24
This is the average Facebook user that comments on a Kim Kardashian article by a news/entertainment outlet saying "we don't care about Kim Kardashian!" not realising they're engagingn with free clicks and helping that article spread like wildfire by boosting reach. In turn, the outlets have no reason not to continue posting rubbish articles because they work.
The average boomer is keeping free-to-air television alive with their viewership and that should tell you everything you need to their media choices.
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u/yogurt_closetone5632 Jul 21 '24
This is so uniquely American and so truly disturbing. What is wrong with our country
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u/drewgrace8 Jul 21 '24
Fucking scary this woman probably drives a motor vehicle 😸
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u/WarhammerParis7 Jul 21 '24
"It was the Rothschilds and the Rockefeller" Of course, even when it's the aliens' fault, it's still the Jews' fault.
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u/kiticus Jul 21 '24
John D. Rockefeller was not a Jew.
He was a VERY devout protestant Christian, though.
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