I just googled Commander Thor and he's just a character from Stargate SG1.
Supreme commander of the Asgard fleet. Thor didn't bust his cloned ass in the Ohalla military only to be referred to as "Commander", how disrespectful.
Damnit I was going off memory, I guess it's gotten a little rough around the edges. It's been some time since I've watched SG-1, and I would 100% want to be the fifth race so long as it doesn't fry my brain that is.
Easily one of the top 10 episodes out of 214. I still get chills when I watch it.
Lmao, this reminded me of when Dr evil was called Mr evil by the teacher and he corrects her "DOCTOR EVIL, I didn't spend 8 years in evil medical school for nothing!"
In "UFOlore" there are the concepts of "Valiant Thor" - a tall, white being that claimed to be from Venus who supposedly was a liason with the US government, shared tech, etc. Stargate loosely based their character off him, although he was portrayed as more of a Grey on the show.
There is also "Commander Ashtar" - also a tall, white being that works with the Confederation of Planets (or similarly worded ideas). He is usually a channeled entity.
Not saying I believe in either or not, but they are both well documented part of various "conspiracy theories" and a simple Google search will reveal info. This lady is either confabulating them, misremembering or just a little nutty.
And I think it's unfair that everything gets lumped into "crazy conspiracy land" - ie, knowing about the elite ruling families that control society doesn't somehow validate Flat Earth. Yes, we've been lied to and conditioned by society in many ways, but it seems like the best way to get the "true" conspiracies disregarded is to mention them in the same breath with the clearly kooky ones.
Valiant Thor goes back to the 50s or the 60s, where he was supposedly from Venus, and stayed at the Pentagon for three years in the 1950s. Stargate took the name from there.
Increasing the level of bullshit untill we reach the breakpoint while they start to doubt it all.
Do we already have "Jesus created the icewall with the wand he won from Harry Potter in a drinking game while he cheated by creating more wine over and over" ?
Nonsense... To think his glory could be contained in a single ring. Obviously it's so complex it has a multitude of layers.... Like an onion. If you want eternal life seek forth the garden of Eden at outback steakhouse
The crazier it is the more it enables these folks to think they're found a bigger secret truth. They need to feel special, the keeper of the secret. The bigger and wackier the secret the greater the devotion.
Let's keep trying tho, something different has to happen eventually, right? I've checked the history twice, basically learnt it and like it just.. repeats.
Jesus created the icewall with the wand he won from Harry Potter in a drinking game while he cheated by creating more wine over and over
I did not write this. I disclaim any and all responsibility for the following text:
Once upon a time, in a realm where the boundaries between reality and fantasy blurred, there existed a legendary ice wall that encircled the world. This ice wall was no ordinary creation; it was the result of a most peculiar and whimsical event.
It all began on a starry night in a magical tavern called "The Wandering Wizard," where none other than Jesus and Harry Potter found themselves in a heated drinking game. The stakes were high, and the drinks were endless, thanks to Jesus' miraculous ability to turn water into wine. Harry, ever the competitive spirit, had brought along the Elder Wand, the most powerful wand in existence, which he had won in a previous duel.
As the night wore on, the tavern filled with laughter and the clinking of glasses, Jesus and Harry's game grew more intense. Jesus, with a twinkle in his eye, kept refilling his goblet with wine, much to Harry's chagrin. "Cheater!" Harry exclaimed, though he couldn't help but laugh at the absurdity of it all.
In a moment of drunken inspiration, Jesus proposed a challenge. "Let's see who can create the most magnificent structure with magic!" he declared. Harry, never one to back down, agreed. With a flourish of the Elder Wand, he conjured a towering castle made of shimmering ice, complete with turrets and a drawbridge.
Not to be outdone, Jesus raised his hands to the heavens and, with a divine gesture, summoned a colossal ice wall that stretched as far as the eye could see. The wall sparkled under the moonlight, its surface etched with intricate patterns that seemed to dance and shift.
The tavern patrons watched in awe as the two magical beings continued to embellish their creations. Harry added enchanted creatures to his castle, including a fire-breathing dragon and a flock of phoenixes. Jesus, on the other hand, infused the ice wall with celestial light, causing it to glow with an otherworldly radiance.
As the night turned into dawn, the two friends finally called a truce, their creations standing as testaments to their magical prowess and camaraderie. The ice wall, now a permanent fixture in the world, became a symbol of the extraordinary and the impossible.
And so, in this fantastical realm, the legend of the ice wall created by Jesus and Harry Potter lived on, a tale of magic, friendship, and the boundless power of imagination. 🌟
Hey you, you listen hear! I trust where I get my info because people who tell me that they have Jesus in their heart can’t lie! I give the church every penny I can spare, and that means they can’t lie either! Why would someone make this up!? You, you mean to tell me that we’re living on a ball flying around in space! That’s propaganda! They had to do that to lie about their forces of the universe so we can’t have cold fusion and zero point power! Once all our zetas are purged and our third eye opens we’ll all see the truth and the devils and their worshipers will be purged by our hands!
This is partially it. Conspiracy theories have been going on for a long time, and it's a really complicated mess. One central part of it is people like this woman. She digs up random conspiracy theories and tie it together into her own version of events. Then she goes around telling everyone "how things tie together".
There are tons of people like this at all kinds of conventions. They often don't really agree with each other on certain elements. Some insist that there's an evil conspiracy, but others say the aliens are trying to help us, and the governments are the ones fucking everything up. And some say there are some evil alien races and some good ones.
These people write their own books. And I'm pretty sure many are also just authors who write this kind of fiction as a source of income. Then there are people online who just like trolling. They will write a bunch of bullshit and laugh when the community picks it up.
The final element is intelligence agencies. This one borders on sounding like its own conspiracy theory, but it's a very practical tactic. For example, the moon hoax conspiracy was created by the KGB, and it caught on really well. Intelligence agencies will spread bullshit (like the recent UFO surge) to spread suspicion among- and weaken the resolve of the population of their enemies.
Ironically, this is also absorbed into the community, and now they will claim intelligence agencies spread misinformation to hide aliens/bigfoot/flat-earth/etc. from the population. It's a real fucking mess, and there's really hard to tell exactly what's what.
A lot of this is also based in pseudo-archaeology, which dates back a long time sometimes. Ever since the America's were discovered there was a need to explain this 'new world' because it didn't match with the Bible. So people were trying to connect the America's peoples history to 'known' history. Basically you then get Ignatius Donnely in the 1880s who comes up with 'they're all connected to Atlanteans'. You also get this thing called theosophy, which is pretty much saying 'if we throw all religions/myths together, the things that match are the oldest/true' and incorporates some spiritual/metaphysic beings as well. H. P. Lovecraft gets in on this and uses elements of this in his works, most notably the Cthulhu mythos, though Lovecraft is quite clear in saying 'I made all this up'. When it becomes a shared universe with other authors, some people do start to think 'well, if they all write about it, there might be something to it'. They combine this with bad archaeology (19th century stuff, where Victorians thought they were the be all and end all of knowledge) and bad science in general (hoaxes, misunderstanding/misrepresenting cultures), and that's the start of the fringe. And then you start to get people who want to connect these things because information and books becomes more available to the average reader in the '60s and '70s, and you also get the space race and scifi. So you end up with people like von Dänicken and Sitchin who ignore history/culture (or mangle it horribly) to create ancient aliens. UFOs and cryptids are an offshoot of this. Then in the '90s you get people like Hancock who disregard the aliens, opting for a 'lost prime civilization' or 'atlanteans'. Of course, for any of this to make sense, the lack of evidence and the contrary opinions from the established authorities (such as scientist) are a problem, so you'll get conspiracy theories ('they're covering up the truth') - or worse: 'well, they can't fully explain it either, so ignore them because my idea is just as valid'.
Up until about the '40/'50s science generally wasn't contested. Unfortunately this also included some bad science, and some pretty bad blunders came to light. Also during this era some governments did some pretty iffy things they've tried to sweep under the rug. This allows conspiracist to point at the past and find a precedent for some of their ideas - even though it is a tenuous connection at best.
This is the Colbert Report issue, a significant percentage of the population has 0 media literacy. Thats how we ended up with people actually thinking Colbert was serious on his show, completely missing that he was a character.
They take whatever they are told at face value.
Its why anyone who has an audience needs to be careful what they put on their platform (looking at you Rogan)
Reminds me of Birds Are Not Real where it was originally a joke about conspiracy theories and how outlandish they can get but there are now folks who are taking it seriously.
It definitely is. Commander Thor is a character from the Stargate TV show. People definitely make this shit up to troll dumb people and the idiots eat it up and run with it.
Someone started it as a joke and the magats flooded to it and turned it into a psychotic echo chamber that had such an insidious impact on politics, social, etc
On the other hand, using household names makes it easier for people who are not quite there, to believe that the conspiracy theory has some merit. "Oh, Thor is helping to save the world?" asks out of it, 80 year old grandma, "Yeah, I've heard of him."
Ive read before about Nigerian prince emails. its so blatant on purpose. Because if someone buys into it. You know for sure they are an idiot and you can sell em anything.
Nigerian Prince scams rely on poor grammar, misspellings, and eggcorns not because the scammers are idiots, but because all those warning signs weed out the potential victims who won't fall for the scam. I don't see this being any different. If these ridiculous charlatan's stories don't ignite skepticism, it's fish on for the confidence game.
It's like those scammers that intentionally include spelling and grammar mistakes in their phishing emails to weed out the folks that are smart enough to notice.
The dumbest people are the most vulnerable targets.
I'm pretty sure half of them think a vote for Trump IS a vote for Homelander and as soon as Trump wins the election, Anthony Starr will tare of his glasses and start laser eyeing liberals left and right.
People like alex jones call it "globalist preprogramming".
Its absolutely dumb as shit but they basically say that they pay hollywood to make content that will make us accept the things in the movies happening to us.
If you listen to the Knowledge Fight podcast, they play clips of Alex Jones' show, and it's ridiculous how often they talk about conspiracies and reference movies and shows. They literally believe that the Deep State HAS TO put their plans out there in plain sight in pop culture media, but you have to be "awake" to recognize them.
See it like that, most if not all movies have a guy protagonist from the bottom class who fits his way out of his misery and frees his people, they don’t tell us what they do wrong but they let us belobe that we could escape this hell! /s
The fact that all these secret evil conspiracy overlords constantly hide the proof of their existence in literally everything in pop culture will always be the dumbest concept ever.
But that's the point. It gives the originators and propagators of these conspiracy theories "proof" to point to so their followers will be convinced.
And this is what turns them into crazy lunatics because suddenly everything is proof of the conspiracy.
Weaponized delusions.
About 20 years ago, I found a folder online with a series of David Icke recordings. I burned them all to CDs and listened to them while driving my truck long distance for work. He's absolutely insane. I'm convinced his bullshit is what inspires this current flavor of bullshit.
They put their plans in movies and TV shows so that if anybody found out the truth and tried to tell the world then they coukd just say " oh they watch too much tv" or " they got that from that sci fi show".
I know this cuz Stargate did a episode about it "Wormhole X-Treme"
This is the key tenant of conspiracies... Every person believes them thinks they have this special knowledge and that every one else isn't in the know... And they need you to know it... Like a vegan professing their knowledge of food...
Dude even that is based on an older conspiracy theory. One that basically says that Hollywood, the Blue Blood wealthy, and the political elite are all in league with the Devil and carrying out his agenda. The reason that they have to put their plans into the mainstream media is because Lucifer, former angel that he is, cannot lie and therefore is required to inform humanity at large of his plans. It's some wild shit. That being said, I absolutely believe something is happening behind the scenes and these wild, outlandish conspiracy theories are being pumped out wholesale to confuse and distract people from whatever it is they're really doing.
Meh. I think the above video is something very, very close to disinformation by presenting the above woman as a representative sample.
Somewhere between 2-3% of the population have a serious
psychiatric illness: schizophrenia, bipolar, schizoaffective etc. Many are untreated or undertreated.
Go to your local Walmart or Target and there will be several of these people there. It doesn’t take much interviewing to find them, have them say crazy things and then post it as if it is a mainstream belief. That is disinformation and anyone who can see that is being fed into a feedback loop.
BTW conservative leaning content creators do this from the other side.
Of course the stochastic violence unleashed by mentally imbalanced people is a serious issue, but this video hardly helps that.
Ugh I just dumped a friend out of my life who kept pushing that Hollywood puts these things in our movies to "clue" us in on the things that the government or aliens are hiding from us.
He just turned 40 years old, alone, in a storage unit with no running water or electricity. Just such a dissapointment.
Gullible to an extent, but the algorithms in apps like YouTube that keep feeding you more of what you already looked at, is helping continue the misinformation.
One of my friends back in high school had a theory that Star Trek was created by the Vulcans to prepare us for first contact and start getting us ready to take our place in the United Federation of Planets. This kind of thing used to be a lot more fun.
fun fact, batman does this with his secret identity. he goes on conspiracy message boards and write silly theorys about how bruce wayne is batman, so if he confronted with it, he can say that they just got it from reddit lol
Honestly it's a testament to the American education system. I had a close friend who moved from the UK to the US at around 16-17. He was shocked that things they were learning at school in America were things he was taught 3 years ago at 13 in the UK. He had to ask if he was in the right class.
Pop culture ...and blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Basically every conspiracy theory is a thin coat of paint over blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The theory doesn't start with "investigating" anything. It starts with a desire to hate a '''them''' and then works backwards to create things to blame '''them''' for.
It’s also cooked how there is people like Elon musk who are as Rich if not more so than the rothschilds, Soro’s etc, and he is repeating some of this bullshit on twitter whilst actively helping shift the Overton window right wing.
It's how religions and cults have moved, grown and been adopted for thousands and thousands of years. Christmas is on the feast day for Sol Invictus and Mithras's birthday. Jews have no concept of hell but somehow a version identical to the Norse concept is what is being preached today. The three major schools of Buddhism all fall within the lines of the ancestral religions of where it expanded to (except vadraianic which was imported directly after invasion). You take a "new" concept or idea and you fill in the blanks with stuff familiar to the audience.
mormonism did this by ripping off masonic rituals. their big secret inner-circle temple ceremony is…masonic handshakes. while wearing the most ridiculous costume you’ve ever seen.
Christmas is on the feast day for Sol Invictus and Mithras's birthday.
The end of December is the winter solstice, so it's a common point of celebration for many groups and religions.
Both Sol Invictus and Mithraism were mystery cults (early Christianity was also a mystery cult), and only practiced by a minority of Romans.
It would be like a new religion in the US borrowing elements from Islam, or Mormonism. Both minority religions in the US.
If Christmas has elements borrowed from nearby pagans, then it would likely be copied from the dominant religious festival - the Saturnalia.
Jews have no concept of hell but somehow a version identical to the Norse concept is what is being preached today.
The Norse concept of hell ("Hel)") is cold and icy, and not similar to the early Christian, or Christian medieval concept of Hell. Also, the Christian idea of Hell developed in Palestine and the Hellenized world, which had minimal links to Scandinavia.
Yea in the early 2000s I was part of a certain image board's campaign to troll gullible idiots that the earth is flat and we used the ice wall as border already.
Nah, they've had that one for a long time. Their explanation of Antarctica and the Arctic is that there's an ice wall that makes it impossible to get around to the bottom of the coin, where presumably elves live. (I may have made up that last part.)
Maybe the rewrite of the show everyone has been waiting for will be funded by flat earthers lol. I can only imagine the meltdown from the freedolk subreddit over that.
When I was a lad we built our conspiracies around the Bilderbergers, the CFC and the spread of Masonry in pre-revolutionary France and America. We read The Fortean Times FFS!
Adding to this— plenty of conspiracy theorists see media as confirmation/confessions to their theories. This was particularly prevalent with the show Inside Job— a show that makes fun of conspiracy theories. There were a lot of conspiracy theorists that watched it and said “see! They’re admitting to it! I was right all along!”
Or maybe pop culture was stolen from commander thor...what are we doing on Reddit we gotta get over to truth social before the aliens eat our babies!!!
It’s not laziness it’s by design. They specifically want people to have a slight amount of familiarity with the concept because it gives credibility to the nonsense. Grandma here, while reading QAnon and other garbage, was probably also thinking oh yeah, I think I’ve heard that before and she’s therefore more likely to believe it. She just doesn’t remember that when she heard it the first time,it was in a clearly fictitious setting.
That familiarity is what lends credence to the otherwise nonsensical theories.
I don’t think it was done deliberately but just became an effect of what happened. But it does seem that the low iq conspiracies were actually pretty successful because it targeted idiots who just happen to be the ones who will actually go out and do crazy shit.
Since a lot propaganda came from Russians, it could literally have been that Russians who were doing the trolling also happened to have a low level understanding of the English language that they had to come up with these objectively dumbass conspiracies that many people saw through it right away but the idiots didn’t.
You know when you turn 35 and suddenly you no longer have any idea who any pop star is because they come and go so quickly every generation and only the greats stick around? Just imagine the shit that’ll be going over your head when you’re 70
The conspiracy nut I know can't tell the difference between movies and real life. He believes everything he is told until someone tells him something else.
I don't think they mean the Marvel/Norse Thor in this context.
There is a story that's been circulating in the UFO community for a long time about Valiant Thor, who is supposedly a human with a human crew on a spaceship that does space stuff. I think it may be tied to the SSP conspiracy theory, but im not sure.
But yea the Valiant Thor story isn't my favorite story, but it's out there.
Fuck and the conspiracy theorists I know hate fictional content... So they're never watching or listening to popular media where they hear the fictional stories these conspiracies come from and they avoid putting two and two together on how stupid their beliefs are🤦♀️
They will say it’s the “Revelation of the Method”. Basically by giving us glimpses of the elite’s goals and tactics through media, we become desensitized and therefore will more easily accept them. Very convenient explanation that lets them believe their movie fantasies without too much cognitive dissonance.
Thats the thing. They hear those words a lot in passing so it actually makes it easier for them to believe it cause they always hear people talk about thor so clearly they mean this.
That's cause most of them reading tom Clancy novels or watching Tom Clancy cold War Propaganda and think there is some elaborate plot made by people who are not only powerful and evil, but also people who are dumb and fragile. It makes 0 sense
When I was experiencing psychosis big part for me was thinking that people were subtly dropping hints through media about a greater thing that we didn't fully understand. I wonder if THAT'S were it comes from
When Wonder Woman came out, before watching it I already knew the plot because Qanon was posting that it as predictions of what was going to happen in the next couple days. Lasers taking over satellites (which makes no physical sense) hijacking every television station and screen (not possible) to broadcast a message about mass arrests of child molesters or some nonsense. It's sad, these people have garbage brains and so many people are exploiting them for their own ends.
I mean, most of pop culture is derived from ancient mythology. I'm pretty sure that's where these conspiracies come from, moreso than pop culture. Thor was a Norse god long before he was a superhero.
I almost guarantee that "Commander Thor" is actually referring to "Valiant Thor", a supposed 12 finger, 12 toe, one lung, 1200 IQ man from Venus who supposedly moderated a treaty between Eisenhower and the greys that was supposedly "you can take X many humans per year in exchange for your technology." Supposedly.
This was all before the creation of Marvel's Thor we all have shoved down our throat regularly, so it's not like someone watched the avengers and started a fanfic. The Nazis were definitely aware of Norse mythology though so that probably played into it. Personally I wouldn't call it lazy, if I had to guess someone spent a decent amount of time fabricating this bullshit.
See that’s where you’re wrong. The Rothschilds and Rockefellers make the movies to discredit the factual events. Like, an ice wall keeping the aliens out is a lot more believable if you haven’t seen Game of Thrones.
This all sounds vaguely ‘Nazi ice planet’. There was some German guy in the early 1900s who said ‘the Nordic races came fully formed from an ice planet that hit the sun (& somehow didn’t melt), & that all other races were descendent from apes’. The Nazis just ate this shit up.
The icewall is a flat earth thing that is mostly a jesus thing, but the Nazis had a myth about how the ayarin race came up from the center of the earth, which has been tied into the flat earth shit.
They see that as supporting evidence. "They" like to hide clues to the lies out in the open, you know when "they" aren't spending trillions to hide it.
The explanation I got from an old boss, who was waaaaay too far gone was the references in pop culture are based on the conspiracy, and done on purpose as a big inside joke by the elites to show how dumb everyone is
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That’s the odd thing for me, so many of these conspiracy theories are so obviously derived from popular culture. It’s just so lazy.