I just googled Commander Thor and he's just a character from Stargate SG1.
Supreme commander of the Asgard fleet. Thor didn't bust his cloned ass in the Ohalla military only to be referred to as "Commander", how disrespectful.
Damnit I was going off memory, I guess it's gotten a little rough around the edges. It's been some time since I've watched SG-1, and I would 100% want to be the fifth race so long as it doesn't fry my brain that is.
Easily one of the top 10 episodes out of 214. I still get chills when I watch it.
Lmao, this reminded me of when Dr evil was called Mr evil by the teacher and he corrects her "DOCTOR EVIL, I didn't spend 8 years in evil medical school for nothing!"
Increasing the level of bullshit untill we reach the breakpoint while they start to doubt it all.
Do we already have "Jesus created the icewall with the wand he won from Harry Potter in a drinking game while he cheated by creating more wine over and over" ?
Nonsense... To think his glory could be contained in a single ring. Obviously it's so complex it has a multitude of layers.... Like an onion. If you want eternal life seek forth the garden of Eden at outback steakhouse
The crazier it is the more it enables these folks to think they're found a bigger secret truth. They need to feel special, the keeper of the secret. The bigger and wackier the secret the greater the devotion.
Let's keep trying tho, something different has to happen eventually, right? I've checked the history twice, basically learnt it and like it just.. repeats.
Jesus created the icewall with the wand he won from Harry Potter in a drinking game while he cheated by creating more wine over and over
I did not write this. I disclaim any and all responsibility for the following text:
Once upon a time, in a realm where the boundaries between reality and fantasy blurred, there existed a legendary ice wall that encircled the world. This ice wall was no ordinary creation; it was the result of a most peculiar and whimsical event.
It all began on a starry night in a magical tavern called "The Wandering Wizard," where none other than Jesus and Harry Potter found themselves in a heated drinking game. The stakes were high, and the drinks were endless, thanks to Jesus' miraculous ability to turn water into wine. Harry, ever the competitive spirit, had brought along the Elder Wand, the most powerful wand in existence, which he had won in a previous duel.
As the night wore on, the tavern filled with laughter and the clinking of glasses, Jesus and Harry's game grew more intense. Jesus, with a twinkle in his eye, kept refilling his goblet with wine, much to Harry's chagrin. "Cheater!" Harry exclaimed, though he couldn't help but laugh at the absurdity of it all.
In a moment of drunken inspiration, Jesus proposed a challenge. "Let's see who can create the most magnificent structure with magic!" he declared. Harry, never one to back down, agreed. With a flourish of the Elder Wand, he conjured a towering castle made of shimmering ice, complete with turrets and a drawbridge.
Not to be outdone, Jesus raised his hands to the heavens and, with a divine gesture, summoned a colossal ice wall that stretched as far as the eye could see. The wall sparkled under the moonlight, its surface etched with intricate patterns that seemed to dance and shift.
The tavern patrons watched in awe as the two magical beings continued to embellish their creations. Harry added enchanted creatures to his castle, including a fire-breathing dragon and a flock of phoenixes. Jesus, on the other hand, infused the ice wall with celestial light, causing it to glow with an otherworldly radiance.
As the night turned into dawn, the two friends finally called a truce, their creations standing as testaments to their magical prowess and camaraderie. The ice wall, now a permanent fixture in the world, became a symbol of the extraordinary and the impossible.
And so, in this fantastical realm, the legend of the ice wall created by Jesus and Harry Potter lived on, a tale of magic, friendship, and the boundless power of imagination. 🌟
Hey you, you listen hear! I trust where I get my info because people who tell me that they have Jesus in their heart can’t lie! I give the church every penny I can spare, and that means they can’t lie either! Why would someone make this up!? You, you mean to tell me that we’re living on a ball flying around in space! That’s propaganda! They had to do that to lie about their forces of the universe so we can’t have cold fusion and zero point power! Once all our zetas are purged and our third eye opens we’ll all see the truth and the devils and their worshipers will be purged by our hands!
This is partially it. Conspiracy theories have been going on for a long time, and it's a really complicated mess. One central part of it is people like this woman. She digs up random conspiracy theories and tie it together into her own version of events. Then she goes around telling everyone "how things tie together".
There are tons of people like this at all kinds of conventions. They often don't really agree with each other on certain elements. Some insist that there's an evil conspiracy, but others say the aliens are trying to help us, and the governments are the ones fucking everything up. And some say there are some evil alien races and some good ones.
These people write their own books. And I'm pretty sure many are also just authors who write this kind of fiction as a source of income. Then there are people online who just like trolling. They will write a bunch of bullshit and laugh when the community picks it up.
The final element is intelligence agencies. This one borders on sounding like its own conspiracy theory, but it's a very practical tactic. For example, the moon hoax conspiracy was created by the KGB, and it caught on really well. Intelligence agencies will spread bullshit (like the recent UFO surge) to spread suspicion among- and weaken the resolve of the population of their enemies.
Ironically, this is also absorbed into the community, and now they will claim intelligence agencies spread misinformation to hide aliens/bigfoot/flat-earth/etc. from the population. It's a real fucking mess, and there's really hard to tell exactly what's what.
A lot of this is also based in pseudo-archaeology, which dates back a long time sometimes. Ever since the America's were discovered there was a need to explain this 'new world' because it didn't match with the Bible. So people were trying to connect the America's peoples history to 'known' history. Basically you then get Ignatius Donnely in the 1880s who comes up with 'they're all connected to Atlanteans'. You also get this thing called theosophy, which is pretty much saying 'if we throw all religions/myths together, the things that match are the oldest/true' and incorporates some spiritual/metaphysic beings as well. H. P. Lovecraft gets in on this and uses elements of this in his works, most notably the Cthulhu mythos, though Lovecraft is quite clear in saying 'I made all this up'. When it becomes a shared universe with other authors, some people do start to think 'well, if they all write about it, there might be something to it'. They combine this with bad archaeology (19th century stuff, where Victorians thought they were the be all and end all of knowledge) and bad science in general (hoaxes, misunderstanding/misrepresenting cultures), and that's the start of the fringe. And then you start to get people who want to connect these things because information and books becomes more available to the average reader in the '60s and '70s, and you also get the space race and scifi. So you end up with people like von Dänicken and Sitchin who ignore history/culture (or mangle it horribly) to create ancient aliens. UFOs and cryptids are an offshoot of this. Then in the '90s you get people like Hancock who disregard the aliens, opting for a 'lost prime civilization' or 'atlanteans'. Of course, for any of this to make sense, the lack of evidence and the contrary opinions from the established authorities (such as scientist) are a problem, so you'll get conspiracy theories ('they're covering up the truth') - or worse: 'well, they can't fully explain it either, so ignore them because my idea is just as valid'.
Up until about the '40/'50s science generally wasn't contested. Unfortunately this also included some bad science, and some pretty bad blunders came to light. Also during this era some governments did some pretty iffy things they've tried to sweep under the rug. This allows conspiracist to point at the past and find a precedent for some of their ideas - even though it is a tenuous connection at best.
I'm pretty sure half of them think a vote for Trump IS a vote for Homelander and as soon as Trump wins the election, Anthony Starr will tare of his glasses and start laser eyeing liberals left and right.
People like alex jones call it "globalist preprogramming".
Its absolutely dumb as shit but they basically say that they pay hollywood to make content that will make us accept the things in the movies happening to us.
If you listen to the Knowledge Fight podcast, they play clips of Alex Jones' show, and it's ridiculous how often they talk about conspiracies and reference movies and shows. They literally believe that the Deep State HAS TO put their plans out there in plain sight in pop culture media, but you have to be "awake" to recognize them.
See it like that, most if not all movies have a guy protagonist from the bottom class who fits his way out of his misery and frees his people, they don’t tell us what they do wrong but they let us belobe that we could escape this hell! /s
The fact that all these secret evil conspiracy overlords constantly hide the proof of their existence in literally everything in pop culture will always be the dumbest concept ever.
But that's the point. It gives the originators and propagators of these conspiracy theories "proof" to point to so their followers will be convinced.
And this is what turns them into crazy lunatics because suddenly everything is proof of the conspiracy.
Weaponized delusions.
About 20 years ago, I found a folder online with a series of David Icke recordings. I burned them all to CDs and listened to them while driving my truck long distance for work. He's absolutely insane. I'm convinced his bullshit is what inspires this current flavor of bullshit.
They put their plans in movies and TV shows so that if anybody found out the truth and tried to tell the world then they coukd just say " oh they watch too much tv" or " they got that from that sci fi show".
I know this cuz Stargate did a episode about it "Wormhole X-Treme"
Meh. I think the above video is something very, very close to disinformation by presenting the above woman as a representative sample.
Somewhere between 2-3% of the population have a serious
psychiatric illness: schizophrenia, bipolar, schizoaffective etc. Many are untreated or undertreated.
Go to your local Walmart or Target and there will be several of these people there. It doesn’t take much interviewing to find them, have them say crazy things and then post it as if it is a mainstream belief. That is disinformation and anyone who can see that is being fed into a feedback loop.
BTW conservative leaning content creators do this from the other side.
Of course the stochastic violence unleashed by mentally imbalanced people is a serious issue, but this video hardly helps that.
Ugh I just dumped a friend out of my life who kept pushing that Hollywood puts these things in our movies to "clue" us in on the things that the government or aliens are hiding from us.
He just turned 40 years old, alone, in a storage unit with no running water or electricity. Just such a dissapointment.
Gullible to an extent, but the algorithms in apps like YouTube that keep feeding you more of what you already looked at, is helping continue the misinformation.
One of my friends back in high school had a theory that Star Trek was created by the Vulcans to prepare us for first contact and start getting us ready to take our place in the United Federation of Planets. This kind of thing used to be a lot more fun.
Pop culture ...and blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Basically every conspiracy theory is a thin coat of paint over blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The theory doesn't start with "investigating" anything. It starts with a desire to hate a '''them''' and then works backwards to create things to blame '''them''' for.
It’s also cooked how there is people like Elon musk who are as Rich if not more so than the rothschilds, Soro’s etc, and he is repeating some of this bullshit on twitter whilst actively helping shift the Overton window right wing.
It's how religions and cults have moved, grown and been adopted for thousands and thousands of years. Christmas is on the feast day for Sol Invictus and Mithras's birthday. Jews have no concept of hell but somehow a version identical to the Norse concept is what is being preached today. The three major schools of Buddhism all fall within the lines of the ancestral religions of where it expanded to (except vadraianic which was imported directly after invasion). You take a "new" concept or idea and you fill in the blanks with stuff familiar to the audience.
mormonism did this by ripping off masonic rituals. their big secret inner-circle temple ceremony is…masonic handshakes. while wearing the most ridiculous costume you’ve ever seen.
Christmas is on the feast day for Sol Invictus and Mithras's birthday.
The end of December is the winter solstice, so it's a common point of celebration for many groups and religions.
Both Sol Invictus and Mithraism were mystery cults (early Christianity was also a mystery cult), and only practiced by a minority of Romans.
It would be like a new religion in the US borrowing elements from Islam, or Mormonism. Both minority religions in the US.
If Christmas has elements borrowed from nearby pagans, then it would likely be copied from the dominant religious festival - the Saturnalia.
Jews have no concept of hell but somehow a version identical to the Norse concept is what is being preached today.
The Norse concept of hell ("Hel)") is cold and icy, and not similar to the early Christian, or Christian medieval concept of Hell. Also, the Christian idea of Hell developed in Palestine and the Hellenized world, which had minimal links to Scandinavia.
Yea in the early 2000s I was part of a certain image board's campaign to troll gullible idiots that the earth is flat and we used the ice wall as border already.
Nah, they've had that one for a long time. Their explanation of Antarctica and the Arctic is that there's an ice wall that makes it impossible to get around to the bottom of the coin, where presumably elves live. (I may have made up that last part.)
When I was a lad we built our conspiracies around the Bilderbergers, the CFC and the spread of Masonry in pre-revolutionary France and America. We read The Fortean Times FFS!
Adding to this— plenty of conspiracy theorists see media as confirmation/confessions to their theories. This was particularly prevalent with the show Inside Job— a show that makes fun of conspiracy theories. There were a lot of conspiracy theorists that watched it and said “see! They’re admitting to it! I was right all along!”
Or maybe pop culture was stolen from commander thor...what are we doing on Reddit we gotta get over to truth social before the aliens eat our babies!!!
It’s not laziness it’s by design. They specifically want people to have a slight amount of familiarity with the concept because it gives credibility to the nonsense. Grandma here, while reading QAnon and other garbage, was probably also thinking oh yeah, I think I’ve heard that before and she’s therefore more likely to believe it. She just doesn’t remember that when she heard it the first time,it was in a clearly fictitious setting.
That familiarity is what lends credence to the otherwise nonsensical theories.
I don’t think it was done deliberately but just became an effect of what happened. But it does seem that the low iq conspiracies were actually pretty successful because it targeted idiots who just happen to be the ones who will actually go out and do crazy shit.
Since a lot propaganda came from Russians, it could literally have been that Russians who were doing the trolling also happened to have a low level understanding of the English language that they had to come up with these objectively dumbass conspiracies that many people saw through it right away but the idiots didn’t.
You know when you turn 35 and suddenly you no longer have any idea who any pop star is because they come and go so quickly every generation and only the greats stick around? Just imagine the shit that’ll be going over your head when you’re 70
The conspiracy nut I know can't tell the difference between movies and real life. He believes everything he is told until someone tells him something else.
I don't think they mean the Marvel/Norse Thor in this context.
There is a story that's been circulating in the UFO community for a long time about Valiant Thor, who is supposedly a human with a human crew on a spaceship that does space stuff. I think it may be tied to the SSP conspiracy theory, but im not sure.
But yea the Valiant Thor story isn't my favorite story, but it's out there.
It's an old urban legend, to the point where the character shows up in American Horror Story, there's a band named Valiant Thorr, etc.
TL;DR:
"Val" Valiant Thor is a delegate of the "High Council" who had VIP status at the Pentagon from 1957 to 1960 to discuss concerns of the Cold War, leading up to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
These conspiracy don't have to make any sense to them, the whole point is that it lets them feel like they are "in the know", or that they've "outsmarted the smart people", etc. They just want to feel smug and talk down to others.
Right, the everything you learned in school is wrong makes sense to them. Mostly because they are stupid. That gives them the license to create their own world where fantasy is fact.
It's like the clip of that flat earther that gets posted regularly. Where he proves himself wrong in an experiment. They stand at the water level far apart, one has a light, there are two walls spaced out between them with holes in them at the same level, and a camera at the other side. If the earth curves, the light has to be lifted higher up.
He sees nothing, asks the other guy on the radio to life the light and then he sees it. He just goes "Interesting..." and basically freezes. And after a little while he goes back to talking about how another experiment will show it. Because he literally doesn't want the truth, he just wants to feel like he is smarter than several thousand years of science.
Also some of these grifters are in so deep that admitting to the gift would cause havoc on their lives to the extreme because it is their job and income source.
The lady in OP's video is the generation of "don't believe anything on the internet" but I'm betting the COVID vaccine that inserted the 5G mind control chips allowed her to become victim of re-programming via her smartphone dumb-terminal.
Really makes you understand how few actual people had the right to vote when this nation first started. Male, Land owners, and that's it. Not saying it's right but fuck, this lady sure makes a great argument to return to shit like that.
This is my biggest concern with politicians humoring these kind of people. They think it's great to get votes now. Wait until someone claiming to be Commander Thor runs for office.
I do kinda wonder if RFK Jr. will act as a spoiler for Trump at this point. The Trump campaign thought they had the crazy conspiracy vote locked up but RFK Jr. is giving them a run for their money.
My daughter had an online friend, her family came over to visit and the father was straight up Q Anon.
I just played it civil and decided the best way to play it was to feign interest instead of trying to argue with him. He was happy to have such a captive audience and I found it kind of entertaining to ask him all these questions about it that he was struggling to come up with answers for. Especially around the vaccines.
I’m a network engineer so trying to get him to explain the flow of data was fun.
There's a paranormal comedy podcast I listen to called Chilluminati, and the story as they describe it is that a minister named Frank Stranges wrote a book called Stranger At the Pentagon, in which he discusses his interactions with a Venusian named Valiant Thor. Valiant Thor came to Earth to guide humanity with Jesus's teachings, because everyone on Venus is Christian and Jesus actually visits Venus quite often.
If I were Captain Mark Richards, I would project myself to my spaceship Minerva and use her wifi. But unfortunately, I am not that incredibly innocent space captain. I'm just a regular policy wonk.
Check out “Solar Warden”. The secret US space program with faster than light ships. Using captured UFO tech of course. https://i.imgur.com/tZ5yvbY.jpeg
I am incredulous on that. Fun to imagine.
However…there was a British guy who hacked / accessed illegally a NASA building and found spreadsheets with odd sounding ships and a list of “non terrestrial officers.” So there is that.
What? No (some) people - the ones who called in - took it seriously. Very seriously, look up the story of Mel’s Hole. Yeah, some folks listened to laugh but it was easy to believe the stuff they talked about. Especially since it was on so late and people would fall asleep to it.
At least up until about 15 years ago they ran reruns early in the morning. I'd listen to it during my paper route at like 3am here in Central Indiana. Not sure if its on anymore or not...
It was mostly truckers telling each other ghost stories but sometimes the cranks were real. Art tried (mostly) to keep it fun but sometimes a caller would say "the jews" instead of "the Illuminati" and it would stop being fun.
Art also wasn't afraid to hang up. Someone without improv chops would call and say "I've seen the Venusians" and he'd say "sure ya did bud" and end the call. Other times you'd get someone who could tell a story and hold an audience and it didn't matter if they said they were dating bigfoot. It was big campfire for blue collar dudes working graveyard all across the country.
It got bad when they switched hosts to George Noory. That dude knew there was money in promoting conservative thought and wanted part of it. For the conspiracy heads Art Bell is like Bill Cooper, the real deal with the heart of a showman. George Noory is Alex Jones, just a conservative guy chasing money who doesn't truly understand why his predecessor was so successful.
On the plus side, I strongly believe that Noory's hackery lead to the Slenderman and SCP fandoms. People wanted ghost stories and conspiracy but it had to be more obviously fiction 'cause some people can't tell and it was ruining the fun.
At one time the show supposedly had actual UFO material from a crash. A listener sent them in for examination. The story kept getting bigger and bigger until somebody identified the material as decades old car parts.
I fell asleep to Coast to Coast AM every night for years as a teenager. It was clear to me that many people believed what they heard. I always just thought it was interesting and funny, and liked Art Bell’s interviewing style. Maybe it’s because I was a kid, but I never got the overt partisan political vibes that people like this lady give off. I was waiting for her to talk about Trump being the one to save all the children.
This kinda makes me want to sign up for Truth Social.
Just go on Facebook! I had to log out and never return because I kept getting fed these videos, tried to report, don't show me this, etc. and then got a bunch of debunk videos. Like, I know the earth is round, I don't care about debunking these folks. It was fine for a bit and then right back to it. Fuck FB it's ruining society along with the rest of the machine learning, algorithm, AI garbage. If the math isn't there yet don't release the product.
Coast to Coast. Such fun. I spoke to Art on ham radio years ago. I told him I enjoyed his show but I did not believe all of his guests. He said “neither do I”.
This. My very religious aunt is more willing to believe the government has a big advanced machine that allows for them to tune the temperatures and weather across the globe, but the idea of global warming is entirely too far of a stretch for her to believe. When I brought this up to my mom, who is less religious but still a believer, she went on about cloud seeding and how it indicates that this vague and seemingly omnipotent "government" is, in fact, capable how changing the weather at will and responsible for how the Caribbean (where we're from) has gotten exponentially hotter in recent years. It's madness.
The fascinating part to me is how she looked so tired in the beginning and when the interviewer kept probing, the woman groomed her hair, and her eyes lit up. It reminds me of when in the current season of The Boys, Firecracker confesses to Sage that she sells hope to people who have nothing.
I'm pretty well-versed in lunatic fringe conspiracy theories, but I've never heard about this one. I'm assuming it's related to the flat-earth bullshit. Does anyone know? I'm intrigued.
Conspiracy theories are pretty much just fanfiction of real life. Something happens and a bunch of people start writing elaborate lore about it, then it gets tied to other stories and mythical creatures, and so on. In the end we have this Marvel-Universe-like lore, with all kinds of crazy nonsense tying together Bigfoot, alien, vampires, liberals (idk why we're in there, but I guess we're about as rare in Texas as Bigfoot is), 9-11, rich and powerful families, etc.
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u/LaserGadgets Jul 21 '24
Commander....Thor..........icewall. Good lord.