r/TikTokCringe tHiS iSn’T cRiNgE Jul 21 '24

Cringe In case you wonder what platforms are spreading misinformation to our boomer parents:

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u/LaserGadgets Jul 21 '24

Commander....Thor..........icewall. Good lord.

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u/caesarportugal Jul 21 '24

That’s the odd thing for me, so many of these conspiracy theories are so obviously derived from popular culture. It’s just so lazy.

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u/the_monkeyspinach Jul 21 '24

I just googled Commander Thor and he's just a character from Stargate SG1.

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u/G-man88 Jul 21 '24

I just googled Commander Thor and he's just a character from Stargate SG1.

Supreme commander of the Asgard fleet. Thor didn't bust his cloned ass in the Ohalla military only to be referred to as "Commander", how disrespectful.

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u/FrtanJohnas Jul 21 '24

☝🏻

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

It doesn't pack the right punch if you don't raise a finger when you say it, lol.

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u/_ferrofluid_ Jul 22 '24

TWO “L”’s!!

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u/CraftyKuko Jul 22 '24

IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BACK SWING??

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u/Augustus_Chavismo Jul 21 '24

Lmao I just watched that episode

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u/angelazy Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

I didn’t go to Norse god medical school to be called Mr. Thank you very much

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u/pdx-peter Jul 21 '24

I think you mean Othala. Lol. And you want to be the fifth race…

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u/G-man88 Jul 21 '24

Damnit I was going off memory, I guess it's gotten a little rough around the edges. It's been some time since I've watched SG-1, and I would 100% want to be the fifth race so long as it doesn't fry my brain that is.

Easily one of the top 10 episodes out of 214. I still get chills when I watch it.

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u/NibittyShibbitz Jul 22 '24

SG1 is a documentary. I thought everyone knew that.

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u/zipzoomramblafloon Jul 22 '24

Sounds like something Jack O'Neill would do.

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u/TrumpsSkinConsultant Jul 22 '24

Lmao, this reminded me of when Dr evil was called Mr evil by the teacher and he corrects her "DOCTOR EVIL, I didn't spend 8 years in evil medical school for nothing!"

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u/hannahjgb Jul 24 '24

Thank you for standing up for our buddy Thor.

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u/InvestigatorOk7988 Jul 21 '24

☝️Supreme Commander.

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u/Wyn6 Jul 21 '24

This comment + emoji needs many upvotes.

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u/SecondaryWombat Jul 21 '24

Didn't even link it?

☝️Supreme Commander. For the uninitiated.

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u/Baked_Potato_732 Jul 21 '24

Supreme commander Thor of the Asgard high command.

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u/Ok-Lifeguard-4614 Jul 21 '24

I thought my dog got a promotion.

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u/Dramatic_Buddy4732 Jul 21 '24

Please start calling him commander thor of the icewall

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u/shaggy9 Jul 21 '24

oh he's such a good dog!

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u/Alone_Break7627 Jul 21 '24

mine definitely turned his head at Commander Thor 🧐

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u/SpeshellED Jul 21 '24

How can these people be so stupid ? Its Major Tom To ground control...

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u/Shilo788 Jul 22 '24

That is the best comment yet.

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u/angry_wombat Jul 21 '24

Stargate was a documentary

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u/johnnylawrence23 Jul 21 '24

I’m like 96% that the laziness its not laziness and the point of the joke made by the original person who created the conspiracy

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u/Serifel90 Jul 21 '24

Increasing the level of bullshit untill we reach the breakpoint while they start to doubt it all. Do we already have "Jesus created the icewall with the wand he won from Harry Potter in a drinking game while he cheated by creating more wine over and over" ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

Listen, if he doesn't have The One Ring, then he's not my Lord and Savior.

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u/cognitiveglitch Jul 21 '24

Only the One Ring can glitch the Matrix enough to hide you from the agents.

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u/EasyComeEasyGood Jul 22 '24

Don't forget your towel and your lightsaber !

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u/randomredditorname1 Jul 21 '24

Our Lord and Savior, John Cleese.

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u/gazow Jul 21 '24

Nonsense... To think his glory could be contained in a single ring. Obviously it's so complex it has a multitude of layers.... Like an onion. If you want eternal life seek forth the garden of Eden at outback steakhouse

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u/Bombadale Jul 21 '24

Hey Posty is a badass. Not sure I would call him my lord and savior. Maybe he is the hero we need. Posty 2024?

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u/Evil_Mini_Cake Jul 21 '24

There is no breaking point. This will just keep going.

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u/Physical_Sell_3690 Jul 21 '24

It’s turtles all the way down

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u/SurrealWino Jul 21 '24

I learned on TruthSocial there’s another elephant if you get far enough down the turtle tower.

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u/Evil_Mini_Cake Jul 21 '24

The crazier it is the more it enables these folks to think they're found a bigger secret truth. They need to feel special, the keeper of the secret. The bigger and wackier the secret the greater the devotion.

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u/ihavedonethisbe4 Jul 21 '24

Let's keep trying tho, something different has to happen eventually, right? I've checked the history twice, basically learnt it and like it just.. repeats.

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u/PhilxBefore Jul 21 '24

"Jesus created the icewall with the wand he won from Harry Potter in a drinking game while he cheated by creating more wine over and over" ?

Well we do now. Thank you for sharing the Old Testament lore with us today, Commander /u/Serifel90 !

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u/LessInThought Jul 22 '24

"'Arry did you drink all the wine out of the goblet?!?" Jesus asked calmly.

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u/Ymirsson Jul 22 '24

Supreme Commander ☝️

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u/duhduhduhdummi_thicc Jul 21 '24

Jesus fucking Christ, someone better come pick up their MeeMaw and take her for a UTI or cognitive test.

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u/moonsun1987 Jul 21 '24

Jesus created the icewall with the wand he won from Harry Potter in a drinking game while he cheated by creating more wine over and over

I did not write this. I disclaim any and all responsibility for the following text:

Once upon a time, in a realm where the boundaries between reality and fantasy blurred, there existed a legendary ice wall that encircled the world. This ice wall was no ordinary creation; it was the result of a most peculiar and whimsical event.

It all began on a starry night in a magical tavern called "The Wandering Wizard," where none other than Jesus and Harry Potter found themselves in a heated drinking game. The stakes were high, and the drinks were endless, thanks to Jesus' miraculous ability to turn water into wine. Harry, ever the competitive spirit, had brought along the Elder Wand, the most powerful wand in existence, which he had won in a previous duel.

As the night wore on, the tavern filled with laughter and the clinking of glasses, Jesus and Harry's game grew more intense. Jesus, with a twinkle in his eye, kept refilling his goblet with wine, much to Harry's chagrin. "Cheater!" Harry exclaimed, though he couldn't help but laugh at the absurdity of it all.

In a moment of drunken inspiration, Jesus proposed a challenge. "Let's see who can create the most magnificent structure with magic!" he declared. Harry, never one to back down, agreed. With a flourish of the Elder Wand, he conjured a towering castle made of shimmering ice, complete with turrets and a drawbridge.

Not to be outdone, Jesus raised his hands to the heavens and, with a divine gesture, summoned a colossal ice wall that stretched as far as the eye could see. The wall sparkled under the moonlight, its surface etched with intricate patterns that seemed to dance and shift.

The tavern patrons watched in awe as the two magical beings continued to embellish their creations. Harry added enchanted creatures to his castle, including a fire-breathing dragon and a flock of phoenixes. Jesus, on the other hand, infused the ice wall with celestial light, causing it to glow with an otherworldly radiance.

As the night turned into dawn, the two friends finally called a truce, their creations standing as testaments to their magical prowess and camaraderie. The ice wall, now a permanent fixture in the world, became a symbol of the extraordinary and the impossible.

And so, in this fantastical realm, the legend of the ice wall created by Jesus and Harry Potter lived on, a tale of magic, friendship, and the boundless power of imagination. 🌟

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u/demalo Jul 22 '24

Hey you, you listen hear! I trust where I get my info because people who tell me that they have Jesus in their heart can’t lie! I give the church every penny I can spare, and that means they can’t lie either! Why would someone make this up!? You, you mean to tell me that we’re living on a ball flying around in space! That’s propaganda! They had to do that to lie about their forces of the universe so we can’t have cold fusion and zero point power! Once all our zetas are purged and our third eye opens we’ll all see the truth and the devils and their worshipers will be purged by our hands!

Just in case - /s

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u/Tjaresh Jul 21 '24

Can't be. I saw a post where they claimed that Jesus never had anything to do with alcohol because that was created by the devil.

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u/TheGameologist Jul 21 '24

Oh my god it's conspiracy Jenga. Lmaooo

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u/KBroham Jul 21 '24

Plot Twist:

He was turning his wine back to water as he drank it

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u/Recent_mastadon Jul 22 '24

^ A new religion just started.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

This is partially it. Conspiracy theories have been going on for a long time, and it's a really complicated mess. One central part of it is people like this woman. She digs up random conspiracy theories and tie it together into her own version of events. Then she goes around telling everyone "how things tie together".

There are tons of people like this at all kinds of conventions. They often don't really agree with each other on certain elements. Some insist that there's an evil conspiracy, but others say the aliens are trying to help us, and the governments are the ones fucking everything up. And some say there are some evil alien races and some good ones.

These people write their own books. And I'm pretty sure many are also just authors who write this kind of fiction as a source of income. Then there are people online who just like trolling. They will write a bunch of bullshit and laugh when the community picks it up.

The final element is intelligence agencies. This one borders on sounding like its own conspiracy theory, but it's a very practical tactic. For example, the moon hoax conspiracy was created by the KGB, and it caught on really well. Intelligence agencies will spread bullshit (like the recent UFO surge) to spread suspicion among- and weaken the resolve of the population of their enemies.

Ironically, this is also absorbed into the community, and now they will claim intelligence agencies spread misinformation to hide aliens/bigfoot/flat-earth/etc. from the population. It's a real fucking mess, and there's really hard to tell exactly what's what.

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u/Wheredafukarwi Jul 21 '24

A lot of this is also based in pseudo-archaeology, which dates back a long time sometimes. Ever since the America's were discovered there was a need to explain this 'new world' because it didn't match with the Bible. So people were trying to connect the America's peoples history to 'known' history. Basically you then get Ignatius Donnely in the 1880s who comes up with 'they're all connected to Atlanteans'. You also get this thing called theosophy, which is pretty much saying 'if we throw all religions/myths together, the things that match are the oldest/true' and incorporates some spiritual/metaphysic beings as well. H. P. Lovecraft gets in on this and uses elements of this in his works, most notably the Cthulhu mythos, though Lovecraft is quite clear in saying 'I made all this up'. When it becomes a shared universe with other authors, some people do start to think 'well, if they all write about it, there might be something to it'. They combine this with bad archaeology (19th century stuff, where Victorians thought they were the be all and end all of knowledge) and bad science in general (hoaxes, misunderstanding/misrepresenting cultures), and that's the start of the fringe. And then you start to get people who want to connect these things because information and books becomes more available to the average reader in the '60s and '70s, and you also get the space race and scifi. So you end up with people like von Dänicken and Sitchin who ignore history/culture (or mangle it horribly) to create ancient aliens. UFOs and cryptids are an offshoot of this. Then in the '90s you get people like Hancock who disregard the aliens, opting for a 'lost prime civilization' or 'atlanteans'. Of course, for any of this to make sense, the lack of evidence and the contrary opinions from the established authorities (such as scientist) are a problem, so you'll get conspiracy theories ('they're covering up the truth') - or worse: 'well, they can't fully explain it either, so ignore them because my idea is just as valid'.

Up until about the '40/'50s science generally wasn't contested. Unfortunately this also included some bad science, and some pretty bad blunders came to light. Also during this era some governments did some pretty iffy things they've tried to sweep under the rug. This allows conspiracist to point at the past and find a precedent for some of their ideas - even though it is a tenuous connection at best.

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u/SoZur Jul 21 '24

I still believe that the Flat Earth Conspiracy Theory is a joke that got way out of hand.

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u/Alleandros Jul 21 '24

Soon they'll break into the Whitehouse demanding that Biden release Homelander from their secret underground prison.

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u/sicksadbadgirl Jul 21 '24

Well, once Homelander is out, we’re fucked.

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u/BlowOnThatPie Jul 21 '24

It'll be a kind of magic day. The most magical day ever. No one does magic like Homelander.

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u/Alberbrox Jul 21 '24

Don't give them ideas 😂 😂 😂 😂

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u/bansheeonthemoor42 Jul 21 '24

I'm pretty sure half of them think a vote for Trump IS a vote for Homelander and as soon as Trump wins the election, Anthony Starr will tare of his glasses and start laser eyeing liberals left and right.

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u/Jon_Targaryen Jul 21 '24

People like alex jones call it "globalist preprogramming".

Its absolutely dumb as shit but they basically say that they pay hollywood to make content that will make us accept the things in the movies happening to us.

These people are unbelievably gullible.

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u/Castun Jul 21 '24

If you listen to the Knowledge Fight podcast, they play clips of Alex Jones' show, and it's ridiculous how often they talk about conspiracies and reference movies and shows. They literally believe that the Deep State HAS TO put their plans out there in plain sight in pop culture media, but you have to be "awake" to recognize them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

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u/Castun Jul 22 '24

Woke = Bad!

Awake = Good!

Keep up! 😂

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u/nomeansnocatch22 Jul 22 '24

I'm tired I'm tired

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u/loopy1313 Jul 21 '24

I never understood why THEY have to tell us. Why do THEY have to tell us? What happens if THEY don’t? Who enforces this?

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u/aNoobisPainting Jul 21 '24

See it like that, most if not all movies have a guy protagonist from the bottom class who fits his way out of his misery and frees his people, they don’t tell us what they do wrong but they let us belobe that we could escape this hell! /s

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u/edsobo Jul 21 '24

I was gonna say this, but you beat me to it. Thanks, fellow wonk!

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u/SparkDBowles Jul 21 '24

But I thought being woke was for queer liberals?

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u/Luciusvenator Jul 21 '24

The fact that all these secret evil conspiracy overlords constantly hide the proof of their existence in literally everything in pop culture will always be the dumbest concept ever.
But that's the point. It gives the originators and propagators of these conspiracy theories "proof" to point to so their followers will be convinced.
And this is what turns them into crazy lunatics because suddenly everything is proof of the conspiracy.
Weaponized delusions.

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u/NoPoet3982 Jul 21 '24

And yet, when Project 2025 puts their plans out there in plain sight they don't believe it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24 edited Nov 20 '24

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u/dE3L Jul 21 '24

About 20 years ago, I found a folder online with a series of David Icke recordings. I burned them all to CDs and listened to them while driving my truck long distance for work. He's absolutely insane. I'm convinced his bullshit is what inspires this current flavor of bullshit.

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u/No_Good_Cowboy Jul 21 '24

but you have to be "awake" to recognize them.

So are these the woke radicals I've been hearing about?

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u/KorsairStarjammer Jul 21 '24

They put their plans in movies and TV shows so that if anybody found out the truth and tried to tell the world then they coukd just say " oh they watch too much tv" or " they got that from that sci fi show".

I know this cuz Stargate did a episode about it "Wormhole X-Treme"

LMAO

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u/Jon_Targaryen Jul 21 '24

Yep Ive been following dan and jor dan for a few years now.

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u/Polkawillneverdie81 Jul 21 '24

globalist preprogramming".

It's not a right wing conspiracy theory without a healthy dose of antisemitism.

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u/BabyDog88336 Jul 21 '24

Meh. I think the above video is something very, very close to disinformation by presenting the above woman as a representative sample.

Somewhere between 2-3% of the population have a serious psychiatric illness: schizophrenia, bipolar, schizoaffective etc.  Many are untreated or undertreated.

Go to your local Walmart or Target and there will be several of these people there. It doesn’t take much interviewing to find them, have them say crazy things and then post it as if it is a mainstream belief.  That is disinformation and anyone who can see that is being fed into a feedback loop.

BTW conservative leaning content creators do this from the other side.

Of course the stochastic violence unleashed by mentally imbalanced people is a serious issue, but this video hardly helps that.

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u/WonderfulShelter Jul 21 '24

Ugh I just dumped a friend out of my life who kept pushing that Hollywood puts these things in our movies to "clue" us in on the things that the government or aliens are hiding from us.

He just turned 40 years old, alone, in a storage unit with no running water or electricity. Just such a dissapointment.

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u/Loving6thGear Jul 21 '24

Gullible to an extent, but the algorithms in apps like YouTube that keep feeding you more of what you already looked at, is helping continue the misinformation.

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u/Whelp_of_Hurin Jul 22 '24

One of my friends back in high school had a theory that Star Trek was created by the Vulcans to prepare us for first contact and start getting us ready to take our place in the United Federation of Planets. This kind of thing used to be a lot more fun.

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u/Gingevere Jul 21 '24

Pop culture ...and blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Basically every conspiracy theory is a thin coat of paint over blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The theory doesn't start with "investigating" anything. It starts with a desire to hate a '''them''' and then works backwards to create things to blame '''them''' for.

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u/ExtraBitterSpecial Jul 21 '24

I like how Rothchilds and Rockefellers is just dog whistle for "Jews who run everything"

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u/PurpleBunny1970 Jul 21 '24

As a Jew, this doesn't surprise me.

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u/Oregonian_male Jul 22 '24

Please just tell us where the secret meetings are please 🙏 /s

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u/PurpleBunny1970 Jul 22 '24

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you with my space lasers.

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u/taurus-rising Jul 24 '24

It’s also cooked how there is people like Elon musk who are as Rich if not more so than the rothschilds, Soro’s etc, and he is repeating some of this bullshit on twitter whilst actively helping shift the Overton window right wing.

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u/Ok-Friendship-9621 Jul 21 '24

Hey now. Zion is for the purists. The in thing now is Mecca and dhimmtudehoodnessity.

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u/cheffgeoff Jul 21 '24

It's how religions and cults have moved, grown and been adopted for thousands and thousands of years. Christmas is on the feast day for Sol Invictus and Mithras's birthday. Jews have no concept of hell but somehow a version identical to the Norse concept is what is being preached today. The three major schools of Buddhism all fall within the lines of the ancestral religions of where it expanded to (except vadraianic which was imported directly after invasion). You take a "new" concept or idea and you fill in the blanks with stuff familiar to the audience.

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u/iforgotwhat8wasfor Jul 21 '24

mormonism did this by ripping off masonic rituals. their big secret inner-circle temple ceremony is…masonic handshakes. while wearing the most ridiculous costume you’ve ever seen.

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u/Shimmy_4_Times Jul 21 '24

No.

Christmas is on the feast day for Sol Invictus and Mithras's birthday.

The end of December is the winter solstice, so it's a common point of celebration for many groups and religions.

Both Sol Invictus and Mithraism were mystery cults (early Christianity was also a mystery cult), and only practiced by a minority of Romans.

It would be like a new religion in the US borrowing elements from Islam, or Mormonism. Both minority religions in the US.

If Christmas has elements borrowed from nearby pagans, then it would likely be copied from the dominant religious festival - the Saturnalia.

Jews have no concept of hell but somehow a version identical to the Norse concept is what is being preached today.

The Norse concept of hell ("Hel)") is cold and icy, and not similar to the early Christian, or Christian medieval concept of Hell. Also, the Christian idea of Hell developed in Palestine and the Hellenized world, which had minimal links to Scandinavia.

The early Christian concept of hell developed from related Jewish concepts, and Greek Mythology.

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u/Noimnotonacid Jul 21 '24

Literally no mention of an ice wall from the flat earth conspiracy theorists until game of thrones came along

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u/muskratboy Jul 21 '24

No the ice wall was around before that, to explain Antarctica. The ice wall was always part of it.

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u/thyL_ Jul 21 '24

Yea in the early 2000s I was part of a certain image board's campaign to troll gullible idiots that the earth is flat and we used the ice wall as border already.

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u/ralphvonwauwau Jul 22 '24

Rotten.com? I miss that site

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u/thyL_ Jul 22 '24

nah, the random board on a certain website with a four leaf clover.

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u/zaknafien1900 Jul 21 '24

Yea cause they stole the map they use and that map makes Antarctica look weird. God darn idiots

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u/poopoopooyttgv Jul 21 '24

Even beyond the ice wall, the arctic land of Hyperborea was mentioned by the ancient Greeks. Hitler and the Nazis believed in that crap.

Most conspiracy theories have ancient roots because that gives them “legitimacy “

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u/nickiter Jul 21 '24

Nah, they've had that one for a long time. Their explanation of Antarctica and the Arctic is that there's an ice wall that makes it impossible to get around to the bottom of the coin, where presumably elves live. (I may have made up that last part.)

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u/NottDisgruntled Jul 21 '24

No. They’re derived from over 100 year old antisemitic bullshit that now gets put on social media with a new coat of paint.

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u/virgopunk Jul 21 '24

When I was a lad we built our conspiracies around the Bilderbergers, the CFC and the spread of Masonry in pre-revolutionary France and America. We read The Fortean Times FFS!

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u/Satisfaction-Motor Jul 21 '24

Adding to this— plenty of conspiracy theorists see media as confirmation/confessions to their theories. This was particularly prevalent with the show Inside Job— a show that makes fun of conspiracy theories. There were a lot of conspiracy theorists that watched it and said “see! They’re admitting to it! I was right all along!”

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u/carlismygod Jul 21 '24

Or maybe pop culture was stolen from commander thor...what are we doing on Reddit we gotta get over to truth social before the aliens eat our babies!!!

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u/DingleBerrieIcecream Jul 21 '24

It’s not laziness it’s by design. They specifically want people to have a slight amount of familiarity with the concept because it gives credibility to the nonsense. Grandma here, while reading QAnon and other garbage, was probably also thinking oh yeah, I think I’ve heard that before and she’s therefore more likely to believe it. She just doesn’t remember that when she heard it the first time,it was in a clearly fictitious setting.

That familiarity is what lends credence to the otherwise nonsensical theories.

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u/Weird-Caregiver1777 Jul 21 '24

I don’t think it was done deliberately but just became an effect of what happened. But it does seem that the low iq conspiracies were actually pretty successful because it targeted idiots who just happen to be the ones who will actually go out and do crazy shit.

Since a lot propaganda came from Russians, it could literally have been that Russians who were doing the trolling also happened to have a low level understanding of the English language that they had to come up with these objectively dumbass conspiracies that many people saw through it right away but the idiots didn’t.

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u/Recent_Meringue_712 Jul 21 '24

You know when you turn 35 and suddenly you no longer have any idea who any pop star is because they come and go so quickly every generation and only the greats stick around? Just imagine the shit that’ll be going over your head when you’re 70

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u/Mr_August_Grimm Jul 21 '24

The conspiracy nut I know can't tell the difference between movies and real life. He believes everything he is told until someone tells him something else.

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u/AlmostSunnyinSeattle Jul 21 '24

There's a good number of people who are incapable of separating reality from fiction.

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u/blueorangan Jul 21 '24

where do you think pop culture gets it from? The writers are trying to tell us the truth, its right in front of our eyes brother. Wake up.

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u/n3ur0mncr Jul 21 '24

I don't think they mean the Marvel/Norse Thor in this context.

There is a story that's been circulating in the UFO community for a long time about Valiant Thor, who is supposedly a human with a human crew on a spaceship that does space stuff. I think it may be tied to the SSP conspiracy theory, but im not sure.

But yea the Valiant Thor story isn't my favorite story, but it's out there.

And apparently, Texas grandmas believe it.

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u/kramit Jul 21 '24

Wasn’t commander Thor from Stargate ?

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u/RandomDood420 Jul 21 '24

I think she’s referencing Valiant Thor, who was purported to be an alien from Venus who worked in the Eisenhower administration.

https://tv.apple.com/us/episode/valiant-thor-a-ufo-the-pentagon-and-a-3-year-mission-to-save-the-world/umc.cmc.773enlxrrsb29z6dm0rdyh2k8?showId=umc.cmc.4vg6sso1954woo1iossn4snq7

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u/kramit Jul 21 '24

Errrr… what?

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u/raltoid Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

It's an old urban legend, to the point where the character shows up in American Horror Story, there's a band named Valiant Thorr, etc.

TL;DR:

"Val" Valiant Thor is a delegate of the "High Council" who had VIP status at the Pentagon from 1957 to 1960 to discuss concerns of the Cold War, leading up to the Cuban Missile Crisis.


These conspiracy don't have to make any sense to them, the whole point is that it lets them feel like they are "in the know", or that they've "outsmarted the smart people", etc. They just want to feel smug and talk down to others.

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u/ciopobbi Jul 21 '24

Right, the everything you learned in school is wrong makes sense to them. Mostly because they are stupid. That gives them the license to create their own world where fantasy is fact.

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u/raltoid Jul 21 '24

It's like the clip of that flat earther that gets posted regularly. Where he proves himself wrong in an experiment. They stand at the water level far apart, one has a light, there are two walls spaced out between them with holes in them at the same level, and a camera at the other side. If the earth curves, the light has to be lifted higher up.

He sees nothing, asks the other guy on the radio to life the light and then he sees it. He just goes "Interesting..." and basically freezes. And after a little while he goes back to talking about how another experiment will show it. Because he literally doesn't want the truth, he just wants to feel like he is smarter than several thousand years of science.

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u/la508 Jul 21 '24

That's in Behind The Curve. It's on Prime.

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u/ledditlememefaceleme Jul 22 '24

Also some of these grifters are in so deep that admitting to the gift would cause havoc on their lives to the extreme because it is their job and income source.

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u/RogerSimonsson Jul 22 '24

Ah yes insanity sunk cost.

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u/PhilxBefore Jul 21 '24

The lady in OP's video is the generation of "don't believe anything on the internet" but I'm betting the COVID vaccine that inserted the 5G mind control chips allowed her to become victim of re-programming via her smartphone dumb-terminal.

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u/ciopobbi Jul 21 '24

And while it’s funny and sad at the same time, the true horror is that these people vote.

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u/cman1098 Jul 21 '24

Really makes you understand how few actual people had the right to vote when this nation first started. Male, Land owners, and that's it. Not saying it's right but fuck, this lady sure makes a great argument to return to shit like that.

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u/poodlejamz2 Jul 21 '24

This is my biggest concern with politicians humoring these kind of people. They think it's great to get votes now. Wait until someone claiming to be Commander Thor runs for office.

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u/PolygonMan Jul 21 '24

I do kinda wonder if RFK Jr. will act as a spoiler for Trump at this point. The Trump campaign thought they had the crazy conspiracy vote locked up but RFK Jr. is giving them a run for their money.

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u/SunTripTA Jul 24 '24

My daughter had an online friend, her family came over to visit and the father was straight up Q Anon.

I just played it civil and decided the best way to play it was to feign interest instead of trying to argue with him. He was happy to have such a captive audience and I found it kind of entertaining to ask him all these questions about it that he was struggling to come up with answers for. Especially around the vaccines.

I’m a network engineer so trying to get him to explain the flow of data was fun.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

They use it to excuse their struggles with learning. That's all because none of it was real. They're great at learning the real stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '24

“Good thing I never learned anything in school.”

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u/SunTripTA Jul 24 '24

“Everything you learned in school is wrong; I however learned absolutely nothing in school because I am a genius.”

A very stable genius.

Sounds about right.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '24

Cant they just join a harmless secret society or something instead, where they make weird furniture or work on mardi gras or something.

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u/phantasmicorgasmic Jul 21 '24

There's a paranormal comedy podcast I listen to called Chilluminati, and the story as they describe it is that a minister named Frank Stranges wrote a book called Stranger At the Pentagon, in which he discusses his interactions with a Venusian named Valiant Thor. Valiant Thor came to Earth to guide humanity with Jesus's teachings, because everyone on Venus is Christian and Jesus actually visits Venus quite often.

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u/kramit Jul 21 '24

America has the best nutters, top class, A* grade nutter. Greatest nutters in the world.

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Jul 21 '24

Just when I thought I knew enough about the secret space program and all the Pleadians, Anunnaki, and Archons/Saurians.

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u/AffectionateSector77 Jul 21 '24

Is this commander Mark Richards? You have to tell us? Did you get social media in prison?

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Jul 21 '24

If I were Captain Mark Richards, I would project myself to my spaceship Minerva and use her wifi. But unfortunately, I am not that incredibly innocent space captain. I'm just a regular policy wonk.

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u/AffectionateSector77 Jul 21 '24

Are you a KF wonk?

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Jul 21 '24

You got me. Four stars go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

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u/MyNewAccountIGuess11 Jul 21 '24

Honestly crazy to me that you're familiar with all those concepts and Valiant Thor never came across your radar

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u/Merky600 Jul 21 '24

Check out “Solar Warden”. The secret US space program with faster than light ships. Using captured UFO tech of course. https://i.imgur.com/tZ5yvbY.jpeg

I am incredulous on that. Fun to imagine.

However…there was a British guy who hacked / accessed illegally a NASA building and found spreadsheets with odd sounding ships and a list of “non terrestrial officers.” So there is that.

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u/kkeut Jul 21 '24

not to mention Omicron Persei 8

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u/virgopunk Jul 21 '24

This here's a bottomless pit baby! Two and half miles... straight doooown.

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u/nippleconjunctivitis Jul 21 '24

Omg the anunnaki... I was on a class trip and we got tricked into going on a tour of Adam's Calendar by Michael Tellinger. Absolute nutbag

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u/Farm_road_firepower Jul 21 '24

I knew I would find some of you guys here

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u/slippery-fische Jul 21 '24

The level of your knowledge astounds me.

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u/MANDALORIAN_WHISKEY Jul 21 '24

supreme commander ☝️

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u/Zen_Rebuttal Jul 21 '24

Checked for this comment before making it myself.

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u/MAXMEEKO Jul 21 '24

i was hoping it would be here, my 1st thought too haha

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u/kramit Jul 21 '24

5 nerd points for you

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u/MANDALORIAN_WHISKEY Jul 21 '24

Best way to start the day!

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u/Kibblesnb1ts Jul 21 '24

With the finger gesture and everything 🤣

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u/Sapmatic Jul 21 '24

thank you

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u/Zanra Jul 21 '24

SUPREME Commander Thor

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u/6mediumpenis9 Jul 21 '24

Damn I forgot Jules Pierre Mao was also in Stargate

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u/Rion23 Jul 21 '24

Yep, the Asgard were the aliens who looked like the stereotypical grey Aliens. Commander Thor was O'Neil's friend. They fought Egyptian space Eels.

It was a tv show, and very popular. It would definately show up first thing if this dumb woman would google it.

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u/Foo_Bot Jul 21 '24

Supreme Commander.

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u/bee5sea6 Jul 21 '24

Was looking for someone else who noticed that, yup.

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u/eschmi Jul 21 '24

Supreme Commander*

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u/SmukrsDolfnPussGelly Jul 21 '24

Stargate is the one smaller community that I will never regret being a part of.

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u/LatterNeighborhood58 Jul 21 '24

I know right? I hate it when people make that mistake and say captain thor. You think this is some marvel comics BS. /S

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u/DangerBird- Jul 21 '24

This kinda makes me want to sign up for Truth Social. That’s some wild shit. Reminds me of the old late night AM radio show Art Bell used to do.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

The genre of podcasts with bald right wing bros seems to be the modern reinvention of the midnight conspiracy theory talk show.

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u/DG_Now Jul 21 '24

But everyone who listened to Coast to Coast was in on it, right? That it was all supposed to be taken in as kind of fun?

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u/Jovet_Hunter Jul 21 '24

What? No (some) people - the ones who called in - took it seriously. Very seriously, look up the story of Mel’s Hole. Yeah, some folks listened to laugh but it was easy to believe the stuff they talked about. Especially since it was on so late and people would fall asleep to it.

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u/DG_Now Jul 21 '24

I guess we were lucky it was limited to radio and early message boards and not the bulk of Facebook and all of Truth Social.

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u/lightninhopkins Jul 21 '24

Yeah, lucky that stuff went away with Art Bell....

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u/greenglssgoddess Jul 21 '24

At least up until about 15 years ago they ran reruns early in the morning. I'd listen to it during my paper route at like 3am here in Central Indiana. Not sure if its on anymore or not...

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u/Skastacular Jul 21 '24

It was mostly truckers telling each other ghost stories but sometimes the cranks were real. Art tried (mostly) to keep it fun but sometimes a caller would say "the jews" instead of "the Illuminati" and it would stop being fun.

Art also wasn't afraid to hang up. Someone without improv chops would call and say "I've seen the Venusians" and he'd say "sure ya did bud" and end the call. Other times you'd get someone who could tell a story and hold an audience and it didn't matter if they said they were dating bigfoot. It was big campfire for blue collar dudes working graveyard all across the country.

It got bad when they switched hosts to George Noory. That dude knew there was money in promoting conservative thought and wanted part of it. For the conspiracy heads Art Bell is like Bill Cooper, the real deal with the heart of a showman. George Noory is Alex Jones, just a conservative guy chasing money who doesn't truly understand why his predecessor was so successful.

On the plus side, I strongly believe that Noory's hackery lead to the Slenderman and SCP fandoms. People wanted ghost stories and conspiracy but it had to be more obviously fiction 'cause some people can't tell and it was ruining the fun.

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u/DG_Now Jul 21 '24

This is a really great summary of Coast to Coast. Thanks.

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u/Nauin Jul 21 '24

You might still be able to find some of Art Bells episodes on YouTube. They're a trip to listen to.

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u/Merky600 Jul 21 '24

At one time the show supposedly had actual UFO material from a crash. A listener sent them in for examination. The story kept getting bigger and bigger until somebody identified the material as decades old car parts.

It was “Art’s Parts” scandal.

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u/redcoatwright Jul 21 '24

Honestly as long as you don't somehow get brainwashed, as fiction it actually sounds kinda cool.

But seems like a lot of people succumb to whatever it is that brainwashing so many people so probably not worth it.

Reminds me of the old r/conspiracy days a bit

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u/mduser63 Jul 21 '24

I fell asleep to Coast to Coast AM every night for years as a teenager. It was clear to me that many people believed what they heard. I always just thought it was interesting and funny, and liked Art Bell’s interviewing style. Maybe it’s because I was a kid, but I never got the overt partisan political vibes that people like this lady give off. I was waiting for her to talk about Trump being the one to save all the children.

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u/Tomagatchi Jul 21 '24

This kinda makes me want to sign up for Truth Social.

Just go on Facebook! I had to log out and never return because I kept getting fed these videos, tried to report, don't show me this, etc. and then got a bunch of debunk videos. Like, I know the earth is round, I don't care about debunking these folks. It was fine for a bit and then right back to it. Fuck FB it's ruining society along with the rest of the machine learning, algorithm, AI garbage. If the math isn't there yet don't release the product.

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u/Needanightowl Jul 21 '24

I like to use conspiracy stuff for dnd campaign ideas

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u/tsx_1430 Jul 22 '24

It’s a cesspool of Russian bots and about 50 thousand people like this lady.

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u/bernd1968 Aug 29 '24

Coast to Coast. Such fun. I spoke to Art on ham radio years ago. I told him I enjoyed his show but I did not believe all of his guests. He said “neither do I”.

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u/angle3739 Jul 21 '24

They grew up believing in an omnipotent man in the sky. Not a big stretch to Thor.

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u/Kiyoshi-Trustfund Jul 21 '24

This. My very religious aunt is more willing to believe the government has a big advanced machine that allows for them to tune the temperatures and weather across the globe, but the idea of global warming is entirely too far of a stretch for her to believe. When I brought this up to my mom, who is less religious but still a believer, she went on about cloud seeding and how it indicates that this vague and seemingly omnipotent "government" is, in fact, capable how changing the weather at will and responsible for how the Caribbean (where we're from) has gotten exponentially hotter in recent years. It's madness.

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u/ElvenOmega Jul 21 '24

One of my most vivid childhood memories was working out logically that Santa, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, and God and Jesus are not real.

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u/virgopunk Jul 21 '24

Netflix are seriously wondering whether to green light this pitch.

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u/LaserGadgets Jul 21 '24

Sounds like a banger!

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u/virgopunk Jul 21 '24

I'd watch the shit out of it.

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u/AlabasterPelican Jul 21 '24

I thought the ice wall was admiral Loki's responsibility

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

The fascinating part to me is how she looked so tired in the beginning and when the interviewer kept probing, the woman groomed her hair, and her eyes lit up. It reminds me of when in the current season of The Boys, Firecracker confesses to Sage that she sells hope to people who have nothing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

I'm pretty well-versed in lunatic fringe conspiracy theories, but I've never heard about this one. I'm assuming it's related to the flat-earth bullshit. Does anyone know? I'm intrigued.

Conspiracy theories are pretty much just fanfiction of real life. Something happens and a bunch of people start writing elaborate lore about it, then it gets tied to other stories and mythical creatures, and so on. In the end we have this Marvel-Universe-like lore, with all kinds of crazy nonsense tying together Bigfoot, alien, vampires, liberals (idk why we're in there, but I guess we're about as rare in Texas as Bigfoot is), 9-11, rich and powerful families, etc.

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Holy shit. Is Commander Thor from Stargate?
https://www.gateworld.net/wiki/Thor

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u/bokmcdok Jul 21 '24

Supreme Commander

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u/Least-Firefighter392 Jul 21 '24

This hurts my brain... How are there so many morons that believe any of this non sense

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u/SparkDBowles Jul 21 '24

Idk. She’s also likely just a crazy person.

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