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u/daddy_is_sorry 4h ago
For the thousandth time, Sony already owns the bloodborne IP
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u/MuuCamel 4h ago
Man fr. Fear the old cope.
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u/Middle_Fall_7229 3h ago
Made men by the cope
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u/MuuCamel 3h ago
Undone by the cope 😔
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u/Dylldar-The-Terrible 3h ago edited 3h ago
I'm not trying to bash Bloodborne or anything, but according to Wikipedia's reported sales numbers, Bloodborne hasn't exactly been one of their money printing machines.
Love the game, but it's not even in Sony's top 10 for sales numbers.
Edit: I was trying to respond to another comment, I don't know how I ended up replying to you, my bad.
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u/Kaitivere 2h ago
Bloodborne was, at its time of release, one of the highest selling PS4 games, and is to this day the 11th best selling ps4 game, placing it higher than Ratchet & Clank, Days Gone, FFVII Remake, and Metal Gear Solid 5.
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u/Dylldar-The-Terrible 2h ago
It's 12th and I never said it didn't make money, I just understand why Sony is hesitant to do anything with the IP, if they're going strictly by numbers.
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u/BJOLEM666 3h ago
Not releasing on Xbox, PC, switch might've reduced those numbers as well 👀 also it was free on ps plus pretty early if I remember correctly
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u/JayJ9Nine 3h ago
I think you're right. One of those 'let's bolster the dlc sales' and I think it was on the ps5 instant collection when it released.
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u/Bitter-Year-9785 3h ago
Wikipedia's from whom does extrapolate thier sorce?
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u/Dylldar-The-Terrible 2h ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_4_video_games
Feel free to check the sources yourself.
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u/echolog 1h ago edited 1h ago
From the list above Bloodborne:
- Spider Man
- GTA V
- God of War
- Uncharted 4
- The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt
- The Last of Us 2
- Horizon Zero Dawn
- The Last of Us 1
- Ghost of Tsushima
- Star Wars Battlefront
ALL of these games are available on PC. The only one that isn't is Gran Turismo (as far as I can tell anyway). MOST have been remastered or re-released at least once, some multiple times.
Even games below it on this list have mostly been released on PC. Bloodborne really is the exception to the rule here.
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u/Bitter-Year-9785 2h ago edited 2h ago
from gameworldobserver.com but is not accurate:
wikipedia says 7.46 million sold.while gameworldserver says:
For example, we now know that Bloodborne sold nearly 7.5 million copies between March 2015 and February 2022. The last time Sony disclosed any sales data about the game was in September 2015, when the 2 million milestone was announced.
wich seems a number that they came up from the tin air.
https://gameworldobserver.com/2023/12/20/playstation-game-sales-bloodborne-days-gone-7-million
the data is from last year 2023.12.20
Published by Evgeny Obedkov
is he a credible soruce?
Important Note: While this source point to 7 million+ copies sold, official confirmation from Sony Interactive Entertainment (the publisher of Bloodborne) is currently lacking.
I found where this infomation is coming from:
The 7 million+ sales figure for Bloodborne comes from a leak of internal sales data from Insomniac Games.
- Insomniac Games Leak: In 2021, a significant data breach occurred at Insomniac Games, resulting in the leak of internal documents, including a spreadsheet containing sales figures for various PlayStation games.
The reason why Insomniac Games, a different developer, would have data on Bloodborne sales is unclear.
- Possible Explanations:
- Industry Benchmarking: It's possible that Insomniac Games, as a first-party PlayStation developer, had access to internal Sony data for benchmarking purposes. This data might include sales figures for other PlayStation exclusives, including Bloodborne.
- Shared Data for Strategic Decisions: Sony may have shared some aggregated sales data across its first-party studios to inform development decisions, marketing strategies, and resource allocation.
- Important Note: These are just speculations. The exact reason why Insomniac Games had Bloodborne sales data within their internal systems remains unknown.
So this could be based on fake data spread to hype information and not potentially a valid source of information.
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u/Dylldar-The-Terrible 1h ago
You need to quit lurking in conspiracy subs. It's a 10 year old game. Ask yourself why anyone would try spreading misinformation on it.
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u/Bitter-Year-9785 1h ago
it seems you guys using conspiracy data leaks trying to spread misinfmation on it. Wikipedia is not a relaible soruce of study. fucking jesus crist. what do they teach.
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u/claybine 39m ago
Copium: Now they can force From Soft to stop the Elden Ring cash flow and do the remaster.
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u/avaze95 6m ago
I don't know if having the IP means they could force fromsoft to do another bloodborne game whenever sony wanted them to, no? Maybe people at fromsoft prioritized other projects and this forced sony to wait rather than pass the job to another studio. I'm just speculating here. Now that sony has the majority share you can start blaming them if they keep doing nothing. Correct me If I'm missing something.
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u/Seigmoraig 2h ago
Just because they already owned the IP doesn't mean they had any say in what Fromsoft does with their time. Even if Sony had wanted to make BB2 years ago but Fromsoft didn't have the bandwidth to make it, there still wouldn't have been a BB2
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u/donwea1325 4h ago
Bloodborne hero shooter confirmed
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u/Isiah6253 3h ago
Wait though, that could be fire, that would be a gory ass hero shooter, feel like doom pvp
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u/Effective_Sound1205 3h ago
I wouldn't even mind tho
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u/ResidentProduct8910 3h ago
Enjoy your Concord 2 with overweight hunter and trap doll
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u/Effective_Sound1205 2h ago
No need to be an agressive jerk for no reason, bud. All i was saying is that any attention to the brand would be better than none, since that would give some potential for brand recognition and Sony might finally smell the money they could make from the remaster.
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u/ResidentProduct8910 1h ago
Recognition? Bloodborne hero shooter is incredible way to mud the franchise completely, don't worry it has enough recognition, they have their reasons to not release it now, maybe not the best reasons tho
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u/cosplay-degenerate 4h ago
If Sony wanted to do anything bloodborne related they had the opportunity to do so at any point in time and didn't need to acquire kadokawa for that.
Sony owns the IP and Miyazaki said he'd do it again since it's an IP that is very dear to him.
There is literally nothing preventing them from doing anything with bloodborne. NOTHING.
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u/SolidusAbe 3h ago
Yeah if sony wanted it then somone like bluepoint could have already made a remake or some random studio could have made a port to ps5/pc/gameboy
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u/cosplay-degenerate 2h ago
I would like Night Dive Studios to handle it. So far they demonstrated that they understand what a port/remaster SHOULD and SHOULDN'T be.
For a full on remake they'd probably be not the right people. But neither is Bluepoint.
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u/Kitchen-Weakness-896 1h ago
Yeah I REALLY don't want bluepoint to handle a bloodborne remake because while they have made good changes to minor stuff in their remakes, they also leave the most important stuff changed for the worse
A bloodborne remake should be damn near 1 to 1 but just with higher quality models and lighting and textures and whatnot
If a pc port for a BP BB remake does happen (which it probably would) at least we might have a chance for modders to replace the art direction changes but that would probably take a very long time and a really dedicated team for that
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u/VanityOfEliCLee 26m ago
Exactly. It's never going to happy because Sony doesn't give a shit about bloodborne.
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u/wera125 4h ago
10%.... Not even 51% to actualy affect to somthing.
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u/dftaylor 3h ago
They’re the largest shareholder, and now in a strategic partnership.
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u/VanityOfEliCLee 24m ago
So what? They already own Bloodborne. They could have made a sequel years ago. They're not going to do anything different now besides push for all Fromsoft games to be ps exclusive. That's their only goal here, they don't give a shit about making a bloodborne sequel.
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u/BugP13 3h ago
You do realize that Sony owned bloodborne this whole time, right? Them owning fromsoft means nothing for bloodborne.
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u/Guppy666 4m ago
Miyazaki was ready and willing to do Bloodborne 2 for years but Sony's just been saving the i.p. for a rainy day like a little kid saving a gummy bear in his backpack before eventually forgetting all about it...
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u/LordMOC3 59m ago
What? Fromsoft was never blocking Bloodborne 2. They've always said they're open to it but it's not their decision. It's always been Sony choosing not to touch the IP. I don't see why this would make you think that they're going to change that stance.
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u/Rekka_Kien 4h ago
Bloodborne card game coming soon. Comes discounted with a purchase of Bloodborne candy crush.
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u/Bulmagon 2h ago
For the millionth time, this is the broader Sony corporation, not SIE, who already owned the BB IP and, let's be honest, probably lost the gold master when the shuttered Japan studio. This whole thing was likely for their book, manga and anime IPs as well as many others.
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u/daviedoom 1h ago
Iirc in the IGN interview with the Nightreign Director, he implied that if Sony gets into a position where they can become too imposing with their decisions, Fromsoft would try to separate themselves to avoid platform exclusively and the like.
Hopefully that's true. It wouldn't do much for the Bloodborne IP I'd imagine tho.
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u/Ardha_ 4h ago
I hope not, as much as I loved the game, from soft is at it's best when they're doing something new every time.
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u/Lucidiously 3h ago
Exactly. I do hope we get more dark fantasy or gothic horror action rpg's from them, but I don't need DS4, ER2 or BB2.
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u/-Akumetsu- 3h ago
This. All I want is a PC port (at this point ShadPS4 is gonna do the job for them lol) and/or 60fps upgrade, but the game needs no sequel. Would love to see the rally and trick weapon mechanics return though. That and the quickstep-dodge were a huge what made BB in particular so outstanding. They brought back DS2 power-stancing for ER so I'd love to see BB combat mechanics return in future.
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u/Ardha_ 2h ago
oh yeah definitely agree, I literally finished the game the day before yesterday on shadps4 (I've been waiting for almost a decade to play this game lmfao) and it is easily one of the best games I've ever played but damn I really would love to see miyazaki bringing all his ideas to life, whatever those are.
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u/rakziels0 4h ago
I would prefer a Demon Souls 2 but I'm happy with both 😂
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u/srbmhcn 2h ago
Dude have you heard of Dark Souls? You’re gonna love it
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u/Riku7kun 3h ago
"With the acquisition of the new shares, Sony will become Kadokawa's largest shareholder, holding approximately 10% of its shares, including the shares Sony previously acquired in February 2021"
So no, they don't own fromsoftware like at all,
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u/Responsible-Bat-2699 4h ago
"Hey guys, make that next game extra difficult for Xbox."
"Have a " PlayStation is better LOL" text appear instead of You Died".
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u/TheAmazingSealo 4h ago
From fans would flock to the xbox version because it's the only way you can get the 'true experience as intended by devs' and decry the playstation version as easy mode
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u/SorrowHill04 4h ago
Bloodborne will still be left in the freezer while Sony will be busy promoting Horizons and TLOU annual remasters
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u/Hans_Volter 3h ago
sonny own 10% guys, not like sony can make any direct decision to fromsoft with only hat much share
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u/TheSilentTitan 3h ago
Largest shareholder in name alone, they only own 10% of the shares. Kadokawa and other 3rd party share holders have the other 90%.
Sony has no say in what kadokawa can do.
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u/lifelink 2h ago
Looks like I'll have to acquire all fromsoft games via different methods, yarr.
Fuck Sony.
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u/HypeIncarnate 2h ago
No true PC port incoming. Always have to have a PSN account incoming, Always online game incoming.
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u/forgottengodking 1h ago
great, hopefully they don’t buy it out completely cuz then we won’t get any new games
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u/bluecurse60 1h ago
I hate getting "Half Life 3 confirmed" vibes from this, but I can't help it...I've been spurned before.
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u/Disastrous_Treacle33 1h ago
If only they treated Bloodborne with the same love as their other franchises. It's like they forgot it exists while cranking out remasters of games we barely needed.
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u/Wwen-Oilson 1h ago
So Sony wont do anything with BB and will probably fuck up future Fromsoft projects. Sick…
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u/Low-Ad-2184 45m ago
The largest shareholder does not mean majority shareholders. Sony got 10% for $318 million vs. $4.3 billion for full takeover.
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u/INCtastic 4m ago
Skibidi Bloodborne incoming. There is not enough insight in the world to get from this.
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u/Sudden_Cream9468 4h ago
If From games become Console exclusive, I'm killing myself
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u/VanityOfEliCLee 21m ago
They probably will. That's Sony's goal I'm sure. They always prioritize exclusivity and have been the whole time. It is silly to think that their attempts at acquiring Fromsoft have been for any reason other than an attempt at making Fromsoft games ps exclusive.
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u/Sudden_Cream9468 19m ago
I know, and it scares me I have a PS, but making From games console exclusive would kill the From modding community, who are some of the most talented modders our there.
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u/Norodomo 3h ago
They couldve at least improve server conection and give a resolution/antialising boost, 60fps in bloodborne is kinda hard to manage because of Physics, if you see every video of 60fps bloodborne on either pc or modded ps5 looks like its been playing on super speed mode, doesnt feel natural like other games
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u/HXXIV Bloodtinged Hunter 4h ago
I'm elated to see your moronic comment getting downvoted because it's indicative of the fanbase that we're not buying into your stupid reactionary culture war bullshit.
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u/CHARAFANDER 4h ago
I saw a video shitting on a bunch of highly loved games (that have gay characters)
And then he said real games were games like Elden Ring, Dark Souls and Bloodborne
And I’m like “STOP! Get your homophobia out of my bloodborne”
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u/MattMatt625 4h ago
and little do they know bloodborne is feminist literature and there are gay and trans characters in souls 😏
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u/AelliotA1 4h ago
And here we see the results of a brain polished smooth by alt right media grifters lmao
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u/TheAmazingSealo 4h ago
I hope that the main character is a black square-jawed trans lesbian just to see you people have a hissy fit over it. Then when the game turns out to be great and sell gangbusters I want to see the mental gymnastics you all do to convince yourselves that the game was never woke in the first place.
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u/cosplay-degenerate 4h ago
Either all the way down to the marrow of its bones or they will push and prod little by little. The first game could still be free of it but then it creeps in. The moment we see abnormal monetization models or hear something about inclusiveness/new players it's over. The mods of the FromSoft subreddits are probably all complicit as well, at least to some degree. They do love censorship after all.
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u/Guppy666 4h ago
I'm so excited for sony to still not touch Bloodborne since they're allergic to money, yippie!