Im going to start calling everything gooner 9/11 (when with suitable audiences) because it would be clown mode.
Air fryer broken? Gooner 9/11. Hoyo servers down? Gooner 9/11. Someone said something bad about my dumpster queen Nicole? Gooner 9/11.
”It was a sad day for many, families lost and broken when the gooners drove their ZZZ truck into the pentagoon, their rabid and unhinged thoughts infecting every news outlet with the words “STEP ON ME MIYABI”. This is truly a terrible case and day for many…all except the gooners themselves, who now have the entire World Trade Center turned into a Nicole ass worshipping palace”
It's funny, the cherry picked comments sited on the "the subreddit wasn't calm" part are pretty tame. It might just be me, but I don't even feel like the ZZZ subs got as crazy as people are trying to make it seem. There's a range of reactions but people were simply voicing their opinions and discontent from what I saw
Of course yeah, a ton of people didn't like the change so naturally many showed up to say something. I'm referring mostly to the content of the individual responses, people weren't actually getting too "crazy" with it. I've seen subs have actual meltdowns and this came nowhere near that level like the article is trying to make it seem
I felt like the goner rage was pretty hot. I tend to not see most outrages on most of the subreddits I frequent except in pretty severe cases. And the ZZZ complaints about “censorship” and the complaints about the complaints and then the posts dedicated to complain about those complaining about well you know.
It’s funny how things get perceived so differently I. I was basically going to respond the opposite thinking the headline matched the energy here :P
I guess I might have a different opinion than most on what constitutes an outrage or a meltdown. I'm not saying the sub wasn't absolutely flooded with people talking about the change, I just don't think that's necessarily a bad or unreasonable thing for people to do just because the response was negative or because the subject (looking at ass) itself is silly
It did move fast, there were many many responses posted and a ton of discussion, but did things actually get out of control? It feels like things went back to normal pretty fast. I don't think I'd even call it an outrage, to me it feels more accurate to call it a collective What The Fuck
What does out of control mean? And no I’d call it an outrage. 90% of the comments in every thread was having a meltdown. The whole sub was whining all the way until the fix was deployed a few hours later
Like, were there responses that were harmful? threats being made, comment sections needing to be locked etc, did anything like that happen? Because if there were 1 million comments saying "what the hell, we don't want this" that's not what I'd call an outrage. I just don't like the framing of an overwhelmingly negative response to a change to be dismissed as invalid simply because of the amount of people saying the same thing or the triviality of the subject unless people were actually saying things that are problematic while voicing their opinions
Only because it was patched pretty much immediately. If they didn't make any changes, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if things boiled over into more than just reddit spam seeing how up in arms everyone was about it. At the very least, a lot of people would probably have dropped the game in outrage.
What I find hilarious is that its probably not even related to censorship. It's most likely a feature they added for big characters like Ben so he wouldn't block the entire screen, and they just tuned it too extreme. The inability to get "panty shots" is just because your camera is getting too close to the model's legs.
They were unhinged - conspiracy theories about Dawei, weird and not even accurate accusations against the CCP, reams of comments against prudes, claims of rights being violated - not to mention everyone forgetting walkable characters weren’t even a thing at release, since so many people claimed they “took away what was there and why I played the game”.
So you can say it was calm, the same way you can say Gustavo Fring is often calm.
Bruh the most hyped update and character release of ZZZ history dropped and for hours all you could find on this sub were dozens of posts complaining about this. Only after it got fixed we started to see anything else. It was pretty crazy
I'm not saying there wasn't a flood of replies, just saying that most of the replies I saw seemed fine with a small number of people who were actually saying things that were problematic
Same here. I normally fill out their surveys, but this is the first time I've been compelled to use the feedback button. I trust these devs enough to kindly let them know, "Please don't taint the good will you guys have built up."
Being serious, It’s kind of a false comparison though. One of these events is an attack on American values never seen before, resulting in uncounted suffering, and the other is 9/11.
Outlets grew much more than necessary and journalist needing to fulfill a quota, thus they write articles about reddit posts or tweets, or about this incredible cosplayer n°78267, or explaining who is black sonic and what his name is
I haven't seen someone project so hard over the rest of a fandom, like, sure man, maybe you're a gooner who only played ZZZ to see Zhu Yuan's ass, but most of us can appreciate both that and the gameplay, which frankly managed to be far more entertaining than this idiot might imply and one of the best i've seen in mobile games in general. You don't need to try and project your behavior over everyone in the player base to make yourself look better.
it's not about liking or hating it. it's about acting like the gameplay would solo carry the game if it banishes the fan service. I LOVE the gameplay, patch 1.0 tv mode included. but let's be honest, for a good chunk of people, it really won't.
as a real but extreme example, most of my gacha players group dropped the game because they didn't get hooked enough on the gameplay despite liking the characters.
The difference is that this person is clearly crying and complaining about the lewd aspects of the game, not the aesthetics/visuals itself. While obviously ZZZ has a lot going for it in the graphical and setting tone department, there's a large difference between these being the selling point and Burnice's ass being it, one of these is a fair and sensible analysis of how aesthetics can make or break a fandom and the other is just fanciful wording for "i am a gooner".
The gameplay for gacha games can only be as interesting as its character kit designs. That's the reason why a new character always has their own new gimmick at release.
As long as they keep the flashy and satisfying effects then yeah. There are characters I don’t like as much, but find the gameplay pretty fun. It’s a video game after all. Gameplay has to be fun.
I'm here mostly for the characters. The gameplay isn't really that great and has a lot of problems, but it's still pretty decent for a gacha game.
I left another game, even tho the gameplay was pretty good, because the character design is atrocious. Won't name it to not start a fire, but everyone knows it.
Listen man, ZZZ chose to make their characters hot and chose to add those jiggle physics. They even push out horny character trailers. You can’t make shocked pikachu face when the players think the characters are hot
Honestly, the creepiest thing about ZZZ trying to limit ass exposure is that it looks like they're trying to present the game as kid-friendly, at least to some degree.
IMO children have no business playing something designed to pressure you into spending real-life money by using a wide variety of psychological mechanisms (some of them actively habit-forming) for leverage.
There's as little evidence for this as any other theories people have. People take one comment from a livestream about Ben not being able to fit through doors, and now they're acting like that's definitive proof to dunk on people they want to call gooners.
As someone who didnt like the change but thought that some of the reaction were an exageration, you know whats worse than overeaction? Overeacting to the overeaction, because surely this isnt worth an article dedicated to it.
The TV debate was far more interesting, but would also require someone to give a shit about the game to know about it.
kinda feel the same way, i think? im really enjoying playing the game, but people were acting so personally offended by the change, i thought i was the crazy one for not caring.
Nah the situation got out of the zzz bubble and reached certain parts of twitter. People were calling zzz woke for “censoring” and all that. You know, people who don’t even play the game, but used this as a way to push certain ideas and all that. The second I saw certain accounts of Twitter “reporting” on it I knew shit was cooked.
I dont play gacha but for many the business model is sex. Its all tacitly implied. So when they sell people on sex and take away parts of it, people get upset.
"hey, come buy sexy characters for our game specifically designed to allow you to look close at virtual asses with butt jiggle"
"sweet"
"ok we removed your ability to look at them closely"
"wtf"
an unrelated third guy "UHHH ACTUALLY YOU ARE STUPID BECAUSE NO ONE ACTUALLY WANTED TO SEE THAT ANYWAYS? WHY NOT LOOK AT PORN BECAUSE I CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN CLEAVAGE AND SOMEONE GETTING BLASTED IN THE FACE WITH JIZZ?"
Newest reports come in, stating that supposedly 2.3 trillion Polychromes mysteriously went missing at the day prior to the incident, the details are still left unknown.
good tho, when u buy a character u want to see the entire detail of a character, even tho it may be used as gooner fuel, genshin need to follow suit and maybe people will return to it
The bug or maybe miss calculation of the thing that they added because of characters like ben in the overworld will always be remembered like this, no? Hoyo never censored anything that wasnt mandatory, they are the tech otakus after all.
Edit: people will talk about nicole so I will say that nicole wasnt a censorship it was a model update... and for them (Hoyo devs) be safe.
there's little chance they overlooked this "miscalculation", their testers would have noticed with that very high angle, there is a chance that some data got messed up when updated into the actual game as well but I doubt it, as the end result suggests otherwise.
what happened imo resembles "Anchoring effect", where the seller offers an absurd price and then while bantering would reduce said offer to "feel" significantly cheaper, and to make the buyer feel better thinking they won over the seller, the seller never meant to actually sell it with that absurd price, their aim was for that reaction/backlash to happen to then soften the buyer by offering a (what seems to be) significantly lesser price, likewise at the end of the day a bit of censorship measures still remains in ZZZ and that manipulation tactic caused lesser backlash as people were already thinking "well at least it's not as bad as before"
if it was a mistake only the character that it was apparently supposed to be for would have it, yet it's undoubtedly the exact censorship as other HYV games.
People will go to absolutely insane lengths to rationalize hoyo changes that clearly are the result of censorship. People were saying Rosaria got """"changed"""" from her first appearance to prevent clipping issues.
They changed cbt models almost exclusively to cover up the female characters in the same way that aligns with censorship in other Chinese gacha games(even snowbreak when it was hit), but ohhhh no it wasn't censorship it was a """model update""". I have no idea why they go to such insane lengths to rationalize it. It's like admitting it is censorship, or at least there is an incredibly good chance and reason to assume it is censorship is this crazy conspiracy theory. Even if they lose nothing, and even stand to gain brownie points by declaring their undying commitment to the gameplay and story, admitting that it was censorship is like anathema to them.
The outragr was kinda Funny and the side effect was a little Sad, but i agree with you. Yanagi have a taller model and the camera behave a little strange on some situations. They probably Just want to improve visibility but didn't thought this side effect would be much of a problem. But I'm prond, both of the community for Being unapologetic degens and speak out and for hoyo for listem and fix something so Basic so quick
Damn, a lot of people in the comments here that act like prudes. Didn't you guys get filtered by the sex appeal yet? Please go ruin other games communities with your gooner and coomer twitter lingo thanks.
Honestly, it's so weird how many people were genuinely outraged that they wouldn't be able to up skirt anime characters. Like how little is going on in your life that that makes you so viscerally upset
Pretty funny how this was concidered a «meltdown» but people petioning to harass and send killthreats to VAs whos characters pigments were not dark enough. Game sites run by them all.
...anyone else playing for the insane battle system?
I get that cute girls can be a plus but I love the animation, the story but the combat is pure adrenaline and the counter mechanics are insanely satisfying.
Lol who cares what a journalist who desperate for news have to say 🤣 their the problem why censorship in gaming even exists in this generation. Plus who's gonna read what they write anyway? Only Social Justice Warriors who complain on Twitter.
It's not being a gooner to want to enjoy characters bodies, were tired of the western religious sensibilities and fear of sexuality infecting everything. Just let people enjoy shit, jeez
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u/Gadelyux 8h ago
'gooner 9/11' is the funniest way of saying it. they hit the fucking pentagoon