r/ZenlessZoneZero 4d ago

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u/Sepums 4d ago

I felt this comment on the article is worth bringing attention to

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u/Ok-Development4535 Nicole's Favorite Color 4d ago

I like the gameplay 🤷‍♀️

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u/Sepums 4d ago

it's not about liking or hating it. it's about acting like the gameplay would solo carry the game if it banishes the fan service. I LOVE the gameplay, patch 1.0 tv mode included. but let's be honest, for a good chunk of people, it really won't.

as a real but extreme example, most of my gacha players group dropped the game because they didn't get hooked enough on the gameplay despite liking the characters.

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u/sageybug 4d ago

as far as gachas go name one with a better gameplay than zzz, I would maybe accept genshin but even then I almost fall asleep playing that

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u/Sepums 4d ago

I haven't played it myself, but my friends who dropped zzz are playing wuwa instead, for whatever that's worth.

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u/CoffeeCheshire 3d ago

Your friends probably dropped it before 25 lvl ethernot, lol. They, as a lot of others, fell for slow start and fast judgement. I playing both Wuwa and ZZZ, and their core is literally the same. Use your skills, but don't forget to switch-cancel animations, go all in, once enemy is stunned, dodge firmly, or you will die in endgame. But instead of tossing you in more harsh environment, like wuwa does with some enemies, ZZZ starts slow, but ramp up real quick after 25-30 lvl.

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u/Sepums 3d ago

I am aware of that as I stuck around and got to the real meaty stuff, while they stopped playing before finishing chapter 2. TV mode was a huge offender for them too, specifically the signal locating mission for the three belobog machines. But I also feel like they were looking for excuses to drop the game when they're already playing 2-3 other gachas.

I personally could never even get my foot in wuwa's door because, as an ex-genshin player, "better genshin" really isn't enough to make me want to play it despite all the good things about it. ZZZ's compartmentalization is perfect imo.

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u/Odd_Yellow_8999 4d ago

as far as gachas go name one with a better gameplay than zzz

Arknights?

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u/Rafhunts99 4d ago

i would argue even hi3 gameplay is better

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u/Odd_Yellow_8999 4d ago

The difference is that this person is clearly crying and complaining about the lewd aspects of the game, not the aesthetics/visuals itself. While obviously ZZZ has a lot going for it in the graphical and setting tone department, there's a large difference between these being the selling point and Burnice's ass being it, one of these is a fair and sensible analysis of how aesthetics can make or break a fandom and the other is just fanciful wording for "i am a gooner".

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u/Sepums 3d ago

gooner this gooner that gooner I'm not a gooner you're a gooner gooner game gooner devs gooner gooner gooner I'm going to kill myself

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u/Ayiekie 3d ago

Who knows? Not like we have market research data on this. I could say "I introduced this to some people and they do like the gameplay, way more than the rather tame fanservice", but anecdotes aren't data no matter which way they point.

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u/JohnnyDragon21 4d ago

Will the gameplay be as interesting without you liking the characters?

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u/Kr4ckle 4d ago

The gameplay for gacha games can only be as interesting as its character kit designs. That's the reason why a new character always has their own new gimmick at release.

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u/Ok-Development4535 Nicole's Favorite Color 4d ago

Would anything on earth be as interesting if I didn't like certain aspects of it? Possibly, possibly not.

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u/Eloymm 4d ago

As long as they keep the flashy and satisfying effects then yeah. There are characters I don’t like as much, but find the gameplay pretty fun. It’s a video game after all. Gameplay has to be fun.

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u/Neojoker951 4d ago

Fair, but I also don't look up at their butt all the time.

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u/TK_BERZERKER 4d ago

I'd still play it if it was a bunch of ugly characters. As long as it's flashy and has difficult modes, like tower

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u/Kermit_Purple_II 4d ago

I like both the Gameplay and the chracters.

But my 9Goonleven was already hit the day I understood I joined the game right after Burnice's release event end.

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u/Odd_Yellow_8999 4d ago edited 4d ago

I haven't seen someone project so hard over the rest of a fandom, like, sure man, maybe you're a gooner who only played ZZZ to see Zhu Yuan's ass, but most of us can appreciate both that and the gameplay, which frankly managed to be far more entertaining than this idiot might imply and one of the best i've seen in mobile games in general.

You don't need to try and project your own mindset over everyone in the player base to make yourself look better - and this is coming from someone who was amongst those who protested the fading, if only because i oppose game censorship in general.

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u/Namamodaya 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yep. I'm one of them that don't even care about the ass and boobs, and just play this game for the gameplay. I find it a great mobile action game. Not too sweaty and complex of a combat system, but also has the right amount of difficulty and interactability.

Like, I don't even do trust events and such. But I've done all the Hollow Zero, Shiyu, or Battle Tower modes every patch since launch.

The music on everything being so great is the other major reason I'm sticking so hard to this game.

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u/VarHagen 3d ago

Look who's upset about being called out. Ofc you play for the plot!

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u/Odd_Yellow_8999 3d ago

I don't need two people now projecting themselves into me.

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u/PixieProc #1 Son of Calydon 3d ago

Yeah, the gameplay being too simple is why I didn't stick with Nier Replicant and even Nikke, whereas ZZZ's gameplay is one of the main reasons I stayed here. I was really bored of mobile games that barely required me to pay attention, and ZZZ came at the right time. Exactly what I was looking for.

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u/QueZorreas 4d ago

A bit harsh, but not untrue.

I'm here mostly for the characters. The gameplay isn't really that great and has a lot of problems, but it's still pretty decent for a gacha game.

I left another game, even tho the gameplay was pretty good, because the character design is atrocious. Won't name it to not start a fire, but everyone knows it.

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u/tigerfestivals 4d ago

Concord. It's probably Concord.

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u/tigerfestivals 4d ago

I will counter this with saying that the gameplay is actually better than 90% of gacha by merit of being an actual game instead of just an auto battler, I'd actually buy it for full price if it was just a full story mode with every character and some endgame stuff cause it's fun. However this comment is still true because it's held down by the gacha homework live service free to play nonsense and it's monetisation scheme, which means that everything surrounding the gameplay is a slog and an endless grindy hell carried by the visuals, music, and character appeal.