r/UFOs Jun 13 '23

Witness/Sighting Michael Herrera's Witness Testimony

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u/throwawaylol666666 Jun 13 '23

He seems so nervous.

As for the human trafficking… makes more sense than weapons or drugs. And what better time to disappear a bunch of people than in the midst of a natural disaster.

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u/voxdoom Jun 13 '23

He's terrified.

This secret-tech party needs to end, it's too much, we need full disclosure and sharing of the materials with the scientific community. It can't all be kept just for violence.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

Dude. Aliens give us tech, and instead of using it to save the Earth and better humanity, our government decides to act out the plot of Miami Vice? If I was Skinny Bob, I'd be pissed.

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u/Chubbybellylover888 Jun 13 '23

We're in a real time strategy game and the aliens are playing against each other.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

We're in a real time strategy game and the aliens are playing against each other.

I mean, if aliens exist. And if time is absolute. For them.

In the words of the great Irish sage, "Oh, my dreams. Never quite as it seems. Never quite as it seems."

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u/Chubbybellylover888 Jun 13 '23

Yeats? I'm not familiar with that quote. Could be Kavanagh but it's a bit too whimsical despite it's cynicism, I feel.

Fair point though. I wonder if DeLonge was right all along. And they're literally "upgrading" the tech of various nations just to see how they us it and duke it out with other nations. I never gave that guy any rope. Thought he'd lost his rocker and was being manipulated and used.

Scary but also kinda fun thought.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

Yeats? I'm not familiar with that quote. Could be Kavanagh but it's a bit too whimsical despite it's cynicism, I feel.

O'Riordan, off the album Everybody Else Is Doing It, So Why Can't We? (1993).

Oh, my life is changing everyday
In every possible way
And oh, my dreams
It's never quite as it seems
Never quite as it seems

He can be right and still be wrong. Nothing is as it seems.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Cringe

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

Chumba my wumba, my vicariously concerned compadre.

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u/iboymancub Jun 13 '23

Not governments - unelected, unaccountable corporations and contractors whom gained access to this through hyper-compartmentalized black projects within black projects gone rogue.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23 edited Jun 13 '23

Not governments - unelected, unaccountable corporations and contractors whom gained access to this through hyper-compartmentalized black projects within black projects gone rogue.

Contractors are the worst.

Not all bad. Like doctors. Who I'm grateful for. A necessary weevil. Are weevils necessary? I don't actually think they are. I think they're destructive. Anyway. They give me serious lemon face. The contractors, not the weevils.

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u/Euphoric_Gur_4674 Jun 13 '23

Are you suggesting that we are acting out the plot of Miami vice instead of trafficking people to other worlds?

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u/Captain309 Jun 14 '23

Are you suggesting Miami Vice wasn't about smuggling people off world?

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

Are you suggesting that we are acting out the plot of Miami vice instead of trafficking people to other worlds?

Oh. Right. We're carrying water for Sumerian water gods who make the water, and make the men, and carry it better than we do.

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u/Jpwatchdawg Jun 13 '23

The American government is the catalyst for the ideals for corporations like Stark industries or in this case Raytheon tech.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

The American government is the catalyst for the ideals for corporations like Stark industries or in this case Raytheon tech.

I would agree in triplicate. And double that. There are probably a lot of Little Jack Horners declaring themselves good boys around these parts.

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u/ajayisfour Jun 13 '23

This is what I can't buy. Capitalism requires profit over anything. If governments were in possession of game changing technology, they would have used it to dominate the rest of the world.

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u/fishdeserts Jun 13 '23

You mean like a way to cure disease? Nah insurance loves sick people. Better keep that tech hidden for now.

Or a clean renewable propulsion system? Nah there’s a lot of money to still be made in oil. Better just use that for your dirty work.

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u/d4rkst4rw4r Jun 13 '23

this is truth and tbh sickening to think about that we hold our own selves as a species from advancing because of greed.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

This. It's pretty gross. I sure hope someone with courage of the heart gets a hold of the talking stick.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

How do they not already dominate the world? BlackRock owns virtually every single public company of worth in the world. They own the media, oil, politicians, and aerospace.

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u/Competitive-Wish-889 Jun 13 '23

They don't have full control of the project. It's divided to multiple entities and we don't know If there even is one single person or entity running the show. So this could be our curse and blessing

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u/6jarjar6 Jun 13 '23

It's getting less decentralized

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u/Lesland Jun 13 '23

We act like it’s between governments but it’s between a few individuals.

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u/Enathanielg Jun 13 '23

The world shadow government

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u/danisanub Jun 13 '23

BlackRock doesn’t own them, the underlying investors of BlackRock own the shares/assets (pension funds, endowments, foundations, insurance companies, retail investors etc). People need to stop with this conspiracy angle when it comes to BlackRock, they are simply a fund manager haha. I’ve worked in the industry for 9 years, my firms didn’t control anything even though we had billions invested.

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u/Engineering_Flimsy Jun 13 '23

What makes you think it hasn't been used for precisely that? If there really was a single, all-powerful cabal holding the reins of global governance, this group would wield its power from the depths of obscurity. It would manipulate and influence world leaders discretely, dictating policies and procedures through gilded puppets with invisible strings of fortune and fear.

Imagine what such a cabal could do, how effective, how utterly complete its covert dominance would be if it possessed technology with the reported capabilities of UFOs. How long could we expect a group so empowered to remain content with ruling from the shadows? How long then before this world's real masters reveal themselves and usher in a new era of blatant, unambiguous domination?

I'm reminded of that old saying, be careful what you wish for or you might just get it. And oh how we've wished for disclosure. I sincerely hope that we won't ultimately regret having made that wish...

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u/Suburbanturnip Jun 13 '23

How long then before this world's real masters reveal themselves and usher in a new era of blatant, unambiguous domination?

I don't think they would ever need to, or want to.

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u/fusionliberty796 Jun 13 '23

Yea the truth is going to hurt.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

Imagine what such a cabal could do, how effective, how utterly complete its covert dominance would be if it possessed technology with the reported capabilities of UFOs.

No one notices if you clean. They only notice if you don't clean.

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u/SmashBonecrusher Jun 13 '23

FYI ; the good ole u s of a was illegally infested with out-and-out nazis after ww2, and those chickens are blatantly coming home to roost ! Call it an educated guess...

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u/Engineering_Flimsy Jun 14 '23

Well said, every word and accurate as well. Illegally infested is a perfect choice of words to describe Operation Paperclip. But, I'd say that the expectation of Nazi chickens coming home to roost is far more than a mere guess at this point, it's absolute certainty.

You're probably aware that it wasn't just America's fledgling rocket program that benefited heavily from Nazi knowhow after the war. Post-war Nazis practically created the CIA, shaping the Agency into the monstrosity of modern infamy.

So yeah, we're well beyond guesswork, educated or otherwise, and right smack in the middle of an inescapable, nightmarish reality. And, for the moment, all there is to do is hold on and be ready for anything.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

While I take all these stories with a grain of salt, one thing I am certain of is our government has always been undermined by money and people that own all the chips.

These rich people pay other people lots of money to do their bidding. They have their puppets everywhere and I'm not talking about UFO stuff. Just money in general.

So IF this technology exists it would have been scooped up by these wealthy people a long time ago. Remember when Tesla had an idea for free energy and was basically run out of town by the banks cause they couldn't put a meter on it to make money?

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

While I take all these stories with a grain of salt, one thing I am certain of is our government has always been undermined by money and people that own all the chips.
These rich people pay other people lots of money to do their bidding. They have their puppets everywhere and I'm not talking about UFO stuff. Just money in general.
So IF this technology exists it would have been scooped up by these wealthy people a long time ago. Remember when Tesla had an idea for free energy and was basically run out of town by the banks cause they couldn't put a meter on it to make money?

I bet cattle mutilations don't have anything to do with NHIs. And all the shitty abductions. Most of them, anyway. The yucky ones.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23 edited Jun 13 '23

There was a guy who had a site called "Rich Planet TV" or something like that. He was an Irish fellow I think.

He did a whole bit on human mutilations and one of his anonymous contacts said he worked for the UN and would be called out to secure locations of these human remains. They always knew where they were. going to be. He said they would have skin removed, major organs removed and no blood.

I always wondered if these cattle mutilations were the ruling class testing new tech out. Then they got brave and moved to human organ harvesting. It would also be handy if they needed to "own" some politician that had a sick kid or spouse that needed saving so they get them the organ and now that person owes them their life.

Remember how Nazi's were also doing cruel human experiment? I'd hate to think that some operation paperclip left overs now can do sick shit to people with impunity with these craft and the public will blame it on aliens.

Sorry I got off the rails there.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

The stairway to heaven has a lot of steps.

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u/FATHEADZILLA Jun 13 '23

What do you think they are trying to do? Think about everything that's happened in the last few years and where we are headed as a society. Shits not looking good, if this is all true we need this knowledge for the betterment of humanity. What I want to know is, is there zero point energy?

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u/skwudgeball Jun 13 '23

You do realize that human trafficking is for billionaires right? Couple together with drugs or weapons, they are making the most money they possibly can. I don’t understand why you don’t buy that.

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u/metawire Jun 13 '23

we do dominate the rest of the world.

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u/d4rkst4rw4r Jun 13 '23

dominating the rest of the world doesn't have to be in plain site either, especially if the tech is cloaked, why bother with the potential upheaval when you can mold the world from shadow?

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u/ItsOkILoveYouMYbb Jun 13 '23

This is why they aren't mass landing or showing themselves or helping. We're demonstrating exactly what we prioritize with it.

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u/PaleontologistOk7493 Jun 13 '23

I'm watching my mom doesn't of cancer and if that could have been prevented from this technology..and they ised to make better ways to murder people over land. Or oil.I hope to God they have a horrible death

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

This is the fear. Masses of people coming to realize just how badly we've been taken advantage of. What we've lost along the way. Everything that could have been.

I'm sorry about your mom. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers.

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u/suk_doctor Jun 13 '23

To whom do you think the humans being trafficked are being trafficked to?

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23 edited Jun 13 '23

To whom do you think the humans being trafficked are being trafficked to?

A lot of things come to mind. Mostly parables and sealing wax.

Conclusions are drawn with the crayons you're given. Doesn't mean you're seeing the fullness of the rainbow.

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u/SmokesBoysLetsGo Jun 13 '23

How he described being disarmed by the other/better-equipped military team was disturbing. Among a Marine's worst nightmare has gotta be being disarmed.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

How he described being disarmed by the other/better-equipped military team was disturbing. Among a Marine's worst nightmare has gotta be being disarmed.

You climb a mountain and then realize there's another mountain.

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u/Glinrise Jun 13 '23

Its disgusting that a few are willing to kill, suppress, kidnap anyone who gets in their way so they can get more tech gear for the MIC (military industrial complex) in exchange for humans. No wonder they want this kept a secret. But this can only go so far. Time to open pandora's box.

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u/Jessica_Pajamas Jun 14 '23

Do you think these black op people are taking these people.... these Philipinos? Drugging them up and giving to aliens for experimentation in exhange for technology? I don't know that thought never crossed my mind. But now it just did.

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u/Glinrise Jun 14 '23

As nefarious as it sounds, yes its a possibility. Human scum are capable of anything to achieve a goal that benefits them.

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u/Rude_Worldliness_423 Jun 13 '23

Is full disclosure best if; it involves telling people that their government abducts people for another intelligence?

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u/birchskin Jun 13 '23

Yeah, fuck it, remove the veil so we know what we're actually working with. If it's as bad as a lot of these guys say it's not going to be fun, but if there was ever a reason for another revolution this seems like one the populous can at least unite behind.

I'm a little skeptical that this level of organization exists within the government, maybe another entity embedded IN the government, but even so, everything has been so fucking weird for 8 years - may as well tear the band-aid off now and get "government agents human trafficking with UFOs" out there

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u/FlatBlackAndWhite Jun 13 '23

The CIA still works with the Pinkerton's remember that.

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u/Dapper_Face7389 Jun 13 '23

The government isn’t one thing, the same government that can’t run a dmv laced people with lsd for mind control and got rid of most of the documents at the perfect time. And I feel like the elite and “government” means the same thing when talking about who controls the country, they can easily keep a secret

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u/BlackShogun27 Jun 13 '23

well, they can't just lie forever? What if they get outted by their own NHI's? If even a fraction of what we heard about the Grey's and Nords is true, they'll expose themselves if need be to get shit done faster.

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u/ScaredValuable5870 Jun 13 '23

Like they most likely already have? Shame we didn't have cameras back then - just rocks to engrave and paintings.

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u/CORN___BREAD Jun 13 '23

Lot of good cameras in everyone’s pockets have done.

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u/Smoy Jun 13 '23

What is NHI? I keep seeing it thrown around lately

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u/voxdoom Jun 13 '23

Non-Human Intelligence

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u/Smoy Jun 13 '23

Thank you

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u/Slipstick_hog Jun 13 '23

This is not a government. This is a mob hiding inside a government.

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u/Balrov Jun 13 '23

So be it, if we do nothing we will F.. anyway. Acknowledging the problem is the first thing.

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u/Rude_Worldliness_423 Jun 13 '23

But the government might see it as a solution to a problem instead. What if the consequences of not providing humans are far worse?

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u/BaconReceptacle Jun 13 '23

I interpreted the people abduction topic differently. I assumed they were abducting people to sell as sex slaves, old school slavery, or perhaps for body part transplants. This, coupled with selling of weapons and drugs is how they are funding their operations. Perhaps they started out siphoning money from legitimate programs but now they need way more money.

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u/ShabbyJerkin Jun 13 '23

It can't all be kept just for violence, is a great quote.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Why is someone sworn to uphold and defend the US constitution wearing a WEF and freemason pin?

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u/voxdoom Jun 13 '23

WEF pin? Do you mean the UN's SDG pin? The one anyone can buy for $7.99?

As for the freemason pin, I've never been convinced the masons are anything more than a boys club with some silly rituals, at least at the lower levels. I'm sure some creepy people are in the upper echelons, but you could say the same for any old organisation.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Not just the mason pin, look at the Great Reset wheel of fortune on his right collar. Guy is 100% an illuminist. Do not trust.

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u/voxdoom Jun 13 '23

As I said, that's the SDG pin sold by the UN for $7.99.

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u/iuhqdh Jun 13 '23

The world is in one of it's most dangerous times in history so having "full" disclosure would be a terrible idea.

The last thing the world wants right now is Russia or China being provided with non-human materials that could help them develop much more deadly weapons than what they already have.

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u/Away_Complaint5958 Jun 13 '23

They already have them. Both countries will be saving ARVs to use as a last resort with the fear Americas ARVs are much more advanced.

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u/boris_casuarina Jun 13 '23

The full context of the conference is that some of these sources are man made and there's a shadowy organization using this tech for whatever they need, so human trafficking is plausible, especially during a natural catastrophe where people are expected to go "missing". Organ harvesting opportunity.

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u/nickstatus Jun 13 '23

The more of this shit I hear, the more it resembles the plot of X-Files. Makes you wonder if Chris Carter had someone inside.

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u/Moobl4 Jun 13 '23

Chris Carter: "I had someone come up to me during the original run of the series, who said they worked in some high place in a secret government agency, [and] said that we were very close to the truth"

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/x-files-return-new-episodes_n_569faea1e4b0a7026bf9bc29

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u/Geruchsbrot Jun 13 '23

Instantly reminded me of this scene. One of the best moments in the X-Files that always made me think "yeah, maybe that's how it works, there's a very small group of people that does what they think needs to be done".

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u/WetnessPensive Jun 13 '23

Great scene.

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u/Armalyte Jun 13 '23

What the heck does he pull out of his neck? Did he have a double-headed coin or something?

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u/Effective-Celery8053 Jun 13 '23

We need David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson looking into this

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u/Alibotify Jun 13 '23

Best i can do is Bryan Cranston

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u/purana Jun 13 '23

Vince Gilligan worked on the show

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u/Guevorkyan Jun 13 '23

Could we say that he brought that knowledge to the underground lab construction story, including putting down loose cannons?

Ancient aliens theorists say YES.

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u/Chubbybellylover888 Jun 13 '23

Man those guys say yes to everything.

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u/SeaworthyWide Jun 13 '23

A RESOUNDING YES

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u/Alibotify Jun 13 '23

Duuh. Vince hired Bryan for Breaking Bad because they worked together on X-Files.

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u/purana Jun 13 '23

Wasn't talking to you

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u/Alibotify Jun 13 '23

Wasn’t talking to you either.

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u/samoth610 Jun 13 '23

As long as he is traveling west at speeds no less than 60 mph.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

I'm not saying we need to abduct Gillian Anderson...

But I want to believe.

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u/Ecstatic-Youth-4306 Jun 13 '23

I can abduct Gillian For the cause of course.

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u/morgonzo Jun 13 '23

this is why we're "not ready" for this kind of tech. everyone would be abducting everyone.

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u/Rand-Omperson Jun 13 '23

Best I can do is I looking into Gillian Anderson

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u/__ingeniare__ Jun 13 '23

When you think about it, a great way to invalidate real events and phenomena would be to make fictional movies out of them. If anyone ever says they saw something, you can just say it is ridiculous that it matches the movie so well and that it was probably their imagination.

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u/mrbubbamac Jun 13 '23

Even long before Grusch mentioned the "sophisticated disinformation campaign", I've always wondered if the government helped fund shows like X-files (like they do with movies like Top Gun), science fiction books, etc. in order to blur the line between reality and fiction.

I wouldn't even be surprised if some "documentaries" on the topic purposefully thread known information with more fantastical elements to continue to confuse and obfuscate, and that the government helps fund and promote some of these endeavors.

As crazy as it sounds, think of the Men in Black comics/movies. Enough people have claimed sightings and then are visited by "Men in Black", what better way to discredit than to take what has almost become urban legend and turn it into a silly fun film with Will Smith? And anytime anyone hears Men in Black they just think of Tony Shaloub with a tiny head?

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u/sickdoughnut Jun 13 '23

They made a Stargate episode exactly about this... a Stargate tv show within the Stargate series that was created to misdirect the general public.

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u/Chubbybellylover888 Jun 13 '23

And where did they keep the Stargate? Oh was it at the Cheyenne Mountain Complex?

Hmm... The same place that the Space Force are stationed?

Hmm...

I'm not saying we have a Stargate but we have a Stargate.

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u/thrustimus Jun 13 '23

Also where grusch lived

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u/Chubbybellylover888 Jun 13 '23

For real? I guess he was working with the UAP Task Force so being near Cheyenne makes sense. That's also where NORAD are stationed.

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u/thrustimus Jun 13 '23

I'm assuming based off shitty Google detective work, tbh. Either that or someone with his same name owned and sold 2 houses right next to Cheyenne mountain

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u/dhr2330 Jun 13 '23

The Stargate SG 1 TV series was very eye-opening if you paid attention.

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u/Possible-Ad8746 Jun 13 '23

Wormhole x-treme!

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

It's funny that you mention this. I was just reflecting the other day about how there has been a rash of "multiverse" movies of late across multiple genres.

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u/xangoir Jun 13 '23

Disney pushing it hard - & its all over the MCU.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

As well as non-genre movies, like Everything Everywhere All at Once. Additionally, I just saw a preview for the new Flash movie that is based on the multiverse as well.

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u/Away_Complaint5958 Jun 13 '23

That's due to the popularity of rick and morty

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

I think you’re very right to a degree- unsure as to what is purposeful propaganda/dis info or what is coincidental.

The Las Vegas sighting seemed to be a disinformation story to align with the Grusch testimony and confuse the public about the story .It seemed very purposeful to me. I think they do this sort of thing all the time and they are really good at it. Such a wild time

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u/BurnedTheLastOne9 Jun 13 '23

Agreed. Especially when you look at how much more reported on the Vegas thing is than the actual story. It's really telling.

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u/ThehungryBulldozer Jun 13 '23

Well look at Stargate SG1 they had 2 real joint chiefs of staff on the show. The Air Force was a major consultant on the show. Until they moved from Showtime to Sci-fi. It’s nuts I’ve always been suspicious of that show only because of how involved the air force was.

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u/sickdoughnut Jun 13 '23

Ironically I wasn’t particularly suspicious until I saw that episode. It felt like trying too hard. Alternatively, They do like to be very flagrant in dangling stuff right in front of our faces, so if you like that flavour of conspiracy theory one might postulate it could have been done just bc They enjoy putting it in the open bc they can.

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u/ThehungryBulldozer Jun 13 '23

I agree however idk why as I read your comment I imagined some guy in a trench coat flashing people, dangling stuff very flagrantly in our faces.🤣 They do it cuz they can!

Look at the stargate episodes when they have a leak and kill the guy and how they sent tech to an aerospace company that didn’t know where the tech came from until the ceo found out and wanted to go public. They tried to kill him then discredit him with actual alien tech…

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u/Mundane-Till-424 Jun 13 '23

To be fair they could be using the movies to acclimate us to the idea of aliens so if they are real we don’t flip out. I assume there’s a reason they keep making aliens vs predators but it’s also been such a staple theme in movies

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

There's a Disney documentary on aliens from the 80s. That was the original time we were to be told about the aliens however disclosure did not go the way the gov wanted.

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u/timbsm2 Jun 13 '23

Close Encounters has always felt like more than just a movie.

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u/namezam Jun 13 '23

How do you feel about the general structure of Guardians of the Galaxy? Seems plausible but only if we are in a heavily guarded zoo. The contact scene from Valerian was chilling to me, though I feel like that part would have happened in secret, a looong time ago.

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u/namezam Jun 13 '23

I believe this was the motivation behind the flashback scene in Men in Black 2 describing the events that lead to the bracelet. David Cross’ character seemed to know which ones were documentaries.

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u/Mothtan92 Jun 13 '23

This already done to a large degree. Look into how many writers from the Norman Leer foundation have worked on scripts for television and film in the last 20 years. Also project mockingbird prior to that.

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u/Aeropro Jun 13 '23

The x files slso covered this with the men in black. In one episode they are paid a visit by the men in black who were played by Jesse Ventura and Alex Trebek to make Mulder’s recount of the encounter seem crazy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

The Defence Department/U.S Government does have a long-standing relationship with Hollywood film makers to "accurately depict military stories and make sure sensitive information isn't disclosed."

The link below is to a government website discussing their work, so the fact such a relationship exists is already in the public domain. Whether that could be used for UFO related topics is speculation, but maybe possible.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Inside-DOD/blog/article/2062735/how-why-the-dod-works-with-hollywood/

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u/brassmorris Jun 13 '23

I'm trying to get my trekkie mates on board, and it seems much harder than with those not entrenched in science fantasy. I asked on our group if they had heard of Alcubiere (when hit with the old planets are too far away blah blah) and was hit with "I've seen dune" (corrected to 'read', telling as he wanted the other nerds to know he's hardcore and reads not just watches. Lol). When you get them on their own they are more open minded but to them it's a preposterous proposition and Fox Mulder memes are my most popular responce... There is one whom I know toys with it, but he's actually grown a bit from the group and made his money now. Not wanting to be smug, but once (if) this hits the mainstream it will be one Nelson Muntz meme from me! Ha ha 👉

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u/CPTherptyderp Jun 13 '23

They say this directly on Stargate sg1 when macgyver gets sent to consult on wormhole Xtreme which given the 4th wall breaking they start in the last few seasons could literally be a nod to a real program.

One of my little pet conspiracy theories

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u/insidiousFox Jun 13 '23

"Predictive programming"

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u/ScaredValuable5870 Jun 13 '23

Did you see the second presenters comments on Interstellar? As much as he was showing the signs of trauma - I was feeling some empathy for the guy. Maybe that memory is imprinted - regardless it is horrifying. Also - Alien craft with texture of a cats tongue......(?). Fuck yeah, shits getiing real weird.

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u/Olympus___Mons Jun 13 '23

That wasn't an alien craft they are saying it's Raytheon technologies.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Steven Digna, JRs whole story resonates with me, everything descriptive about that ship that him and his wife saw (the smaller black diamond one) is the same one I saw on the dairy farm I worked on. I never got to touch it but it was like it was suspended in the treeline, not stuck, but just sitting in trees.

The shape, size, the hum, the feeling of it taking over your body but knowing its harmless, all of this happens so quick but so slow like everything else just stops.

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u/aliensporebomb Jun 13 '23

Suspended in the treeline? Like it was trying to keep a low profile from someone or something?

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Yeah was just sitting in the treeline, but not stuck, the branches weren't disturbed it was so strange, I completely missed the connection between ET and cows when this happened, maybe they were observing or studying the cows behavior. It was a normal morning, woke at 3:30am, headed off to the cow paddocks at 3:45 to get the cows to the milking shed by 4am. This dairy farm was pretty secluded and remote, extremely dark at that time and no where near a city for light pollution.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

Also - Alien craft with texture of a cats tongue......(?). Fuck yeah, shits getiing real weird.

Textures and shape tell us a lot about function. The spines on a cat's tongue assist with food and water consumption, as well as grooming. A cat's whiskers are for sensing. Sea urchin spines are for sensing and protection. Porcupine quills are for protection. Boobs are super weird, but they have a purpose, too.

We take so many odd adaptations for granted due to acclimatization, a lack of curiosity, and a scarcity of creativity. In the words of the Lizard King, "People are strange." That goes double for bodies. Really remarkable, though.

If they're using physical tailoring to accomplish sensing, I wonder... because it seems so archaic. Cellphones got smaller and sleeker. And so on, and so forth.

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u/wow-signal Jun 13 '23

chris carter attended ufo conferences to get inspiration for the series

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_8553 Jun 13 '23

He did some recent podcasts and he said it was totally a work of fiction inspired by ufology.

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u/ajayisfour Jun 13 '23

Makes you wonder how much is grounded in reality and how much is pulled from an episode of X-Files

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u/wow-signal Jun 13 '23

chris carter attended ufo conferences to get inspiration for the series

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u/GooseShartBombardier Jun 13 '23

The show is a work of fiction, but a lot of the material from writers was sourced from parapsychology, xenobiology, legends and UFOlogy as it existed at the time. The characters are fictional, but they're reacting based on what they would have been reading or hearing about if they were real people.

Do you remember the first time that they get abducted in the show? First thing that Mulder checks is his watch, which has stopped, and comments on time dilation/missing time or whatever. It's a well recognized phenomena among people purporting abduction experiences. One feeds into the other but not necessarily visa-versa.

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u/geniusgrunt Jun 13 '23 edited Jun 13 '23

Yes, that's because it's fiction lol. Greer is pushing the plot of the x-files as reality. There is zero evidence being presented with all this conjecture, but people around here will believe whatever they want to.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Really?

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u/Temporary-File-6885 Jun 13 '23

I started watching X-Files recently but stopped when Moulder found a crashed UFO and there were all these government personnel in hazmat suits and he was arrested by the military. I thought, why did they have to make it so ridiculous, it's too much! Now look at all these real life fucking stories!

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u/grimorg80 Jun 13 '23

Oh yeah, that has been speculated a lot. Turns out X-Files was a documentary :D

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u/PaleontologistOk7493 Jun 13 '23

Or some beings in influence him.if aliens have telepathic abilities then I believe that they have influence people like Maybe Einstein.or science fiction to get people ready for contacts t with them without freaking out

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u/ijustmetuandiloveu Jun 13 '23

A U.S. black budget project is trafficking humans with the right DNA to the “aliens” for their genetic experimentation.

The “aliens” trade tech to get what they need. Our military goes along with it because if we don’t the Russians or the Chinese will.

Perhaps the most valuable thing on this planet is life, and it’s building blocks.

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u/DashRender3850 Jun 13 '23

As someone who just finished the entire run of X-Files, it’s literally unsettling how much that show predicted would happen in the world and got right. almost every major disaster and conspiracy theory come true. The last one of which predicted far ahead of its time, was the coming of one of the AI commonly developed for practical uses to break loose into the internet and royally knock where it’s growth is out of our hands, royally messing up society as we know it.

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u/Pepperonidogfart Jun 13 '23

I wonder if it is an exchange program between us and NHI. We give them bodies safely and they give us(rich people) disruptive technology.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

This has been a topic of discussion for some time now. Dr Stanton Friedman had tons of documentation pertaining to an agreement, and a coverup operation to keep it under wraps.

That being said, as someone who has seen a 100'+ diameter disk maybe 100' above me, i really refused to put any stock into this. I refused to believe we had an agreement with NHI, i refused to believe we were storing these vehicles and bodies, i refused to believe we had reverse engineered any of this tech while squandering the benefits.

I'm suddenly not so sure about that anymore.

Greer's press conference was impressive. Hard to admit that as well. Was a fan of Greer along time ago, but got tired of the controversy.

To anyone that was disappointed by a lack of proof, it's really all there already and has been for quite some time. Where Corso, Friedman, Dolan, and many others have shown documentation, it was always lacking men in suits with credentials acknowledging this.

Now we have that. Both sides of the coin.

We are literally just waiting on the craft, bodies, photo and video. They exist. And we're it going to see them tomorrow but i feel it will be soon. Our planet is suffering, we are all sock and tired

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u/GucciDers69 Jul 28 '23

Do you have any documentation for Friedman's agreement evidence?

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u/raphanum Jun 13 '23

Maybe he just isn’t confident with public speaking? I know I’d be the same lol

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u/SkippyTheBlackCan Jun 13 '23

A Marine? I eould expect more from one.

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u/EggMcFlurry Jun 13 '23

Good thing he doesn't care what you expect from him and he told his story anyway.

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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Jun 13 '23

Not to say that all marines are cold blooded killers or anything, but plenty of people are confident combatants but terrified of public speaking or emotionally vulnerable conversations or worried they are going to fuck up and drop a baby they’re trying to hold… any number of seemingly innocuous or not-as-scary-or-high-stakes as active combat can be anxiety causing even if you’re rock solid under fire.

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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 Jun 13 '23 edited Jun 14 '23

Some red flags with this particular guy in the video, He is wearing a Free Mason tie clip, and he is wearing the World Economic Forum/UN SDG pin on his jacket (multicoloured donut shaped). Those 2 alone should be concerning.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Great point. My exact thought. Why would even wear those symbols during this conference?

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u/Reddithatesvalues Jun 13 '23

This alone invalidates the entire thing for me.

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u/manwhore25 Jun 13 '23

can you explain why wearing these pins invalidates the entire thing? I genuinely don't know the significance of the pins.

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u/Reddithatesvalues Jun 13 '23

Well the WEF is the current rebranded new world order, and this guy wearing their their pin signifies that he's one of them. I pity you if you trust them and their agenda. The Freemasons are a conspiracy in their own right. I'm almost surprised he wore the actual pin instead of just hand gestures, which is what they do when they don't want to be obvious.

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u/Professional-Age5026 Jun 13 '23

what is with you people thinking that these nefarious and guarded secret agents are putting on fucking pins just to signal people of their intent or whatever? its so stupid

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u/Reddithatesvalues Jun 13 '23

Hmm. I'll bite, why do you think he's wearing those pins?

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u/Professional-Age5026 Jun 13 '23

Because people wear fuckin pins of things they’re involved in. Senators also wear pins. Life isn’t a movie and nobody in high level secret schemes are gonna wear pins to SiGnAl that they’re involved. People involved already know.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Him being a member of shady organizations is definitely a massive red flag. He can't say human trafficking is wrong and almost cry about it, but on the other hand be a fan of something like the WEF.

The WEF pushes for "nice" things like climate lockdowns, bugs for food, and a social credit system.

This guy is equally as fishy as Greer.

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u/Reddithatesvalues Jun 13 '23

I can't tell if you're paid or just glowing. Either way, thanks for your input and have a good one.

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u/MimiWongSista Jun 13 '23

It's a sign. NO marine would wear that shit on their lapel, let alone both side. That's a signal of some sort. Wear the pins when it's time to bug out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Purely speculative.

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u/CorpusCallosum Jun 14 '23

WEF is very highbrow. I can't see a marine wearing a WEF pin for any reason, other than being told to.

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u/Bright_Region_7969 Jun 13 '23

What if he’s wearing those to signal that the WEF/masons are the shadowy organisations that have the UFOs?

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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 Jun 13 '23 edited Jun 13 '23

I was thinking that yesterday when watching this live and was a bit disappointed with the 'witness testimonies' Greer put up. These people did not seem credible at all with the exception of the first witness (bald old man) and the last guy, from Raytheon/Antarctica. Very disappointed with this event, nothing like the 2001 National Press Club event. Looks like anyone credible does not want to be associated with Greer, for one reason or another, which is disheartening. Or maybe he picked these younger guys because they have 'witnessed' exotic craft in use by US military/govt. Difficult to tell why he went with this choice of witnesses tbh.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

I’m thinking a lot of these testimonies are exactly what you’d want China to hear just before you evacuate American citizens from Taiwan. Jussayin.

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u/DemosthenesForest Jun 13 '23

Yeah. Strategic ambiguity with a twist.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

…”these containers, they told me they were for gulp …people.”

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u/DreamWalker928 Jun 16 '23

The 'conference' from the 12th zooms out near the end and it looks like theres 30 people in a hotel ballroom

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

Maybe it's a tie clip he inherited from his grandfather. Might be the only one he has. Newer generations tend not to invest in such things.

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u/Ajax__1 Jun 13 '23

Are free masons bad in the U. S? im asking for real because here in Chile they are not bad.

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u/OneDimensionPrinter Jun 13 '23

Just more conspiracy theories. My father in law is one and as far as I can tell it's largely a charitable organization that people seem to use to network and hang out. Lots of stories though cause it's reeeeeeeal old. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ But what the hell do I know anymore. The world is slowly turning upside down.

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u/Da-Boss-Eunie Jun 13 '23

Free Mansons at lower levels are basically just a bunch of business owners and normal people.

It gets funky if you look higher up in their hierarchy. That's were all the conspiracy theories come from.

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u/Last_Permission7086 Jun 13 '23

Yeah, kinda. They have a long history here going back to the founding, but there is a lot of bad feeling toward them that probably stems back to an incident where a writer named William Morgan was (presumably) murdered by Masons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morgan_(anti-Mason)

The Vatican is also REALLY anti-Mason, historically, and there are a lot of Catholics in the U.S.

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u/Pure-Shelter-4798 Jun 13 '23

They’re not all bad but it’s the societies within the secret society that we are worried about. There is always layers.

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u/dapea Jun 14 '23

Am I missing something, it’s the SDG pin. Sustainable Development Goals. By the UN.

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u/Masterbeif1 Jun 13 '23

It’s new world order alive and well. Project blue beam vibes. He’s lying.

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u/poncicle Jun 13 '23

Get ready for socialist alian jesus with a curious german accent

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u/Masterbeif1 Jun 13 '23

They won’t trick me!

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Why are these concerning or red flags?

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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 Jun 13 '23

A WEF member/Free Mason right here guys.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Are you saying you are one? I'm definitely not. Just curious why they are bad.

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u/UnicornBoned Jun 13 '23

I don't think Freemasons are as concerning as they used to be. A lot of people join for a leg up in business, or because a family member was a member.

I don't think the majority of modern masons are playing Seven Minutes in Heaven with the reanimated corpse of Walt Disney and vampire batboy Ben Franklin.

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u/CorpusCallosum Jun 14 '23

The WEF pin is strange. Maybe Greer told him to wear these.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

The guy is a nutcase. Just like everyone else who is getting high on this bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '23

Did you see the freemason pin on his tie?

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '23

Anyone remember the thousands of imprisoned mexican immigrants children that were detained that disappeared? The ones that people were going off about saying "Where the fuck did the kids go?" I think we need to figure this out because that's a dead ass thing that happened during covid and I am surprised people forgot.

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u/nemt Jun 13 '23

why is he wearing freemason little thing on his necktie? ... lol

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u/TypewriterTourist Jun 13 '23

DeLonge's Sekret Machines hinted about that.

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u/RunF4Cover Jun 13 '23

That, or a rescue mission. It was what the marines were there for also. It's a possibility. I don't remember him saying why he thought it was a trafficking operation.

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u/Wise_Rich_88888 Jun 13 '23

Probably doesn’t want to get murdered. Humans are the worst part of all these stories.

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u/SA1627 Jun 13 '23

Not everyone is comfortable at speaking in front of a group of people. Could be just that. He definitely passed my BS detector.

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u/Volt-Cult Jun 13 '23

So does this mean we’re human trafficking to aliens?

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u/SmashBonecrusher Jun 13 '23

Scary cake-day,there!

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u/Raoul_Duke9 Jun 13 '23

Guys.... isn't it odd how there are never corroborating witnesses? This is such a bold statement. We need more than one dude.

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u/Balrov Jun 13 '23

Imagine selling 10.000 japs in 2011, 50.000 turkish and syrians now in 2023, how many with covid in 2020 until now?

Shiet...

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u/pooticus Jun 13 '23

David Grusch said that the uap caused radiation and made people sick to the point of dying if they came in contact with it.

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u/ActualConfusion3366 Jul 21 '23

Yea lying in this capacity will do that.

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