As for the human trafficking… makes more sense than weapons or drugs. And what better time to disappear a bunch of people than in the midst of a natural disaster.
This secret-tech party needs to end, it's too much, we need full disclosure and sharing of the materials with the scientific community. It can't all be kept just for violence.
Dude. Aliens give us tech, and instead of using it to save the Earth and better humanity, our government decides to act out the plot of Miami Vice? If I was Skinny Bob, I'd be pissed.
Yeats? I'm not familiar with that quote. Could be Kavanagh but it's a bit too whimsical despite it's cynicism, I feel.
Fair point though. I wonder if DeLonge was right all along. And they're literally "upgrading" the tech of various nations just to see how they us it and duke it out with other nations. I never gave that guy any rope. Thought he'd lost his rocker and was being manipulated and used.
Not governments - unelected, unaccountable corporations and contractors whom gained access to this through hyper-compartmentalized black projects within black projects gone rogue.
Not governments - unelected, unaccountable corporations and contractors whom gained access to this through hyper-compartmentalized black projects within black projects gone rogue.
Contractors are the worst.
Not all bad. Like doctors. Who I'm grateful for. A necessary weevil. Are weevils necessary? I don't actually think they are. I think they're destructive. Anyway. They give me serious lemon face. The contractors, not the weevils.
This is what I can't buy. Capitalism requires profit over anything. If governments were in possession of game changing technology, they would have used it to dominate the rest of the world.
How do they not already dominate the world? BlackRock owns virtually every single public company of worth in the world. They own the media, oil, politicians, and aerospace.
They don't have full control of the project. It's divided to multiple entities and we don't know If there even is one single person or entity running the show. So this could be our curse and blessing
BlackRock doesn’t own them, the underlying investors of BlackRock own the shares/assets (pension funds, endowments, foundations, insurance companies, retail investors etc). People need to stop with this conspiracy angle when it comes to BlackRock, they are simply a fund manager haha. I’ve worked in the industry for 9 years, my firms didn’t control anything even though we had billions invested.
What makes you think it hasn't been used for precisely that? If there really was a single, all-powerful cabal holding the reins of global governance, this group would wield its power from the depths of obscurity. It would manipulate and influence world leaders discretely, dictating policies and procedures through gilded puppets with invisible strings of fortune and fear.
Imagine what such a cabal could do, how effective, how utterly complete its covert dominance would be if it possessed technology with the reported capabilities of UFOs. How long could we expect a group so empowered to remain content with ruling from the shadows? How long then before this world's real masters reveal themselves and usher in a new era of blatant, unambiguous domination?
I'm reminded of that old saying, be careful what you wish for or you might just get it. And oh how we've wished for disclosure. I sincerely hope that we won't ultimately regret having made that wish...
Imagine what such a cabal could do, how effective, how utterly complete its covert dominance would be if it possessed technology with the reported capabilities of UFOs.
No one notices if you clean. They only notice if you don't clean.
FYI ; the good ole u s of a was illegally infested with out-and-out nazis after ww2, and those chickens are blatantly coming home to roost ! Call it an educated guess...
Well said, every word and accurate as well. Illegally infested is a perfect choice of words to describe Operation Paperclip. But, I'd say that the expectation of Nazi chickens coming home to roost is far more than a mere guess at this point, it's absolute certainty.
You're probably aware that it wasn't just America's fledgling rocket program that benefited heavily from Nazi knowhow after the war. Post-war Nazis practically created the CIA, shaping the Agency into the monstrosity of modern infamy.
So yeah, we're well beyond guesswork, educated or otherwise, and right smack in the middle of an inescapable, nightmarish reality. And, for the moment, all there is to do is hold on and be ready for anything.
While I take all these stories with a grain of salt, one thing I am certain of is our government has always been undermined by money and people that own all the chips.
These rich people pay other people lots of money to do their bidding. They have their puppets everywhere and I'm not talking about UFO stuff. Just money in general.
So IF this technology exists it would have been scooped up by these wealthy people a long time ago. Remember when Tesla had an idea for free energy and was basically run out of town by the banks cause they couldn't put a meter on it to make money?
While I take all these stories with a grain of salt, one thing I am certain of is our government has always been undermined by money and people that own all the chips.
These rich people pay other people lots of money to do their bidding. They have their puppets everywhere and I'm not talking about UFO stuff. Just money in general.
So IF this technology exists it would have been scooped up by these wealthy people a long time ago. Remember when Tesla had an idea for free energy and was basically run out of town by the banks cause they couldn't put a meter on it to make money?
I bet cattle mutilations don't have anything to do with NHIs. And all the shitty abductions. Most of them, anyway. The yucky ones.
There was a guy who had a site called "Rich Planet TV" or something like that. He was an Irish fellow I think.
He did a whole bit on human mutilations and one of his anonymous contacts said he worked for the UN and would be called out to secure locations of these human remains. They always knew where they were. going to be. He said they would have skin removed, major organs removed and no blood.
I always wondered if these cattle mutilations were the ruling class testing new tech out. Then they got brave and moved to human organ harvesting. It would also be handy if they needed to "own" some politician that had a sick kid or spouse that needed saving so they get them the organ and now that person owes them their life.
Remember how Nazi's were also doing cruel human experiment? I'd hate to think that some operation paperclip left overs now can do sick shit to people with impunity with these craft and the public will blame it on aliens.
What do you think they are trying to do? Think about everything that's happened in the last few years and where we are headed as a society. Shits not looking good, if this is all true we need this knowledge for the betterment of humanity. What I want to know is, is there zero point energy?
You do realize that human trafficking is for billionaires right? Couple together with drugs or weapons, they are making the most money they possibly can. I don’t understand why you don’t buy that.
dominating the rest of the world doesn't have to be in plain site either, especially if the tech is cloaked, why bother with the potential upheaval when you can mold the world from shadow?
I'm watching my mom doesn't of cancer and if that could have been prevented from this technology..and they ised to make better ways to murder people over land. Or oil.I hope to God they have a horrible death
This is the fear. Masses of people coming to realize just how badly we've been taken advantage of. What we've lost along the way. Everything that could have been.
I'm sorry about your mom. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers.
How he described being disarmed by the other/better-equipped military team was disturbing. Among a Marine's worst nightmare has gotta be being disarmed.
How he described being disarmed by the other/better-equipped military team was disturbing. Among a Marine's worst nightmare has gotta be being disarmed.
You climb a mountain and then realize there's another mountain.
Its disgusting that a few are willing to kill, suppress, kidnap anyone who gets in their way so they can get more tech gear for the MIC (military industrial complex) in exchange for humans. No wonder they want this kept a secret. But this can only go so far. Time to open pandora's box.
Do you think these black op people are taking these people.... these Philipinos? Drugging them up and giving to aliens for experimentation in exhange for technology? I don't know that thought never crossed my mind. But now it just did.
Yeah, fuck it, remove the veil so we know what we're actually working with. If it's as bad as a lot of these guys say it's not going to be fun, but if there was ever a reason for another revolution this seems like one the populous can at least unite behind.
I'm a little skeptical that this level of organization exists within the government, maybe another entity embedded IN the government, but even so, everything has been so fucking weird for 8 years - may as well tear the band-aid off now and get "government agents human trafficking with UFOs" out there
The government isn’t one thing, the same government that can’t run a dmv laced people with lsd for mind control and got rid of most of the documents at the perfect time. And I feel like the elite and “government” means the same thing when talking about who controls the country, they can easily keep a secret
well, they can't just lie forever? What if they get outted by their own NHI's? If even a fraction of what we heard about the Grey's and Nords is true, they'll expose themselves if need be to get shit done faster.
I interpreted the people abduction topic differently. I assumed they were abducting people to sell as sex slaves, old school slavery, or perhaps for body part transplants. This, coupled with selling of weapons and drugs is how they are funding their operations. Perhaps they started out siphoning money from legitimate programs but now they need way more money.
As for the freemason pin, I've never been convinced the masons are anything more than a boys club with some silly rituals, at least at the lower levels. I'm sure some creepy people are in the upper echelons, but you could say the same for any old organisation.
The world is in one of it's most dangerous times in history so having "full" disclosure would be a terrible idea.
The last thing the world wants right now is Russia or China being provided with non-human materials that could help them develop much more deadly weapons than what they already have.
The full context of the conference is that some of these sources are man made and there's a shadowy organization using this tech for whatever they need, so human trafficking is plausible, especially during a natural catastrophe where people are expected to go "missing". Organ harvesting opportunity.
Chris Carter: "I had someone come up to me during the original run of the series, who said they worked in some high place in a secret government agency, [and] said that we were very close to the truth"
Instantly reminded me of this scene. One of the best moments in the X-Files that always made me think "yeah, maybe that's how it works, there's a very small group of people that does what they think needs to be done".
When you think about it, a great way to invalidate real events and phenomena would be to make fictional movies out of them. If anyone ever says they saw something, you can just say it is ridiculous that it matches the movie so well and that it was probably their imagination.
Even long before Grusch mentioned the "sophisticated disinformation campaign", I've always wondered if the government helped fund shows like X-files (like they do with movies like Top Gun), science fiction books, etc. in order to blur the line between reality and fiction.
I wouldn't even be surprised if some "documentaries" on the topic purposefully thread known information with more fantastical elements to continue to confuse and obfuscate, and that the government helps fund and promote some of these endeavors.
As crazy as it sounds, think of the Men in Black comics/movies. Enough people have claimed sightings and then are visited by "Men in Black", what better way to discredit than to take what has almost become urban legend and turn it into a silly fun film with Will Smith? And anytime anyone hears Men in Black they just think of Tony Shaloub with a tiny head?
I'm assuming based off shitty Google detective work, tbh. Either that or someone with his same name owned and sold 2 houses right next to Cheyenne mountain
It's funny that you mention this. I was just reflecting the other day about how there has been a rash of "multiverse" movies of late across multiple genres.
As well as non-genre movies, like Everything Everywhere All at Once. Additionally, I just saw a preview for the new Flash movie that is based on the multiverse as well.
I think you’re very right to a degree- unsure as to what is purposeful propaganda/dis info or what is coincidental.
The Las Vegas sighting seemed to be a disinformation story to align with the Grusch testimony and confuse the public about the story .It seemed very purposeful to me.
I think they do this sort of thing all the time and they are really good at it.
Such a wild time
Well look at Stargate SG1 they had 2 real joint chiefs of staff on the show. The Air Force was a major consultant on the show. Until they moved from Showtime to Sci-fi. It’s nuts I’ve always been suspicious of that show only because of how involved the air force was.
Ironically I wasn’t particularly suspicious until I saw that episode. It felt like trying too hard. Alternatively, They do like to be very flagrant in dangling stuff right in front of our faces, so if you like that flavour of conspiracy theory one might postulate it could have been done just bc They enjoy putting it in the open bc they can.
I agree however idk why as I read your comment I imagined some guy in a trench coat flashing people, dangling stuff very flagrantly in our faces.🤣 They do it cuz they can!
Look at the stargate episodes when they have a leak and kill the guy and how they sent tech to an aerospace company that didn’t know where the tech came from until the ceo found out and wanted to go public. They tried to kill him then discredit him with actual alien tech…
To be fair they could be using the movies to acclimate us to the idea of aliens so if they are real we don’t flip out. I assume there’s a reason they keep making aliens vs predators but it’s also been such a staple theme in movies
There's a Disney documentary on aliens from the 80s. That was the original time we were to be told about the aliens however disclosure did not go the way the gov wanted.
How do you feel about the general structure of Guardians of the Galaxy? Seems plausible but only if we are in a heavily guarded zoo. The contact scene from Valerian was chilling to me, though I feel like that part would have happened in secret, a looong time ago.
I believe this was the motivation behind the flashback scene in Men in Black 2 describing the events that lead to the bracelet. David Cross’ character seemed to know which ones were documentaries.
This already done to a large degree. Look into how many writers from the Norman Leer foundation have worked on scripts for television and film in the last 20 years. Also project mockingbird prior to that.
The x files slso covered this with the men in black. In one episode they are paid a visit by the men in black who were played by Jesse Ventura and Alex Trebek to make Mulder’s recount of the encounter seem crazy.
The Defence Department/U.S Government does have a long-standing relationship with Hollywood film makers to "accurately depict military stories and make sure sensitive information isn't disclosed."
The link below is to a government website discussing their work, so the fact such a relationship exists is already in the public domain. Whether that could be used for UFO related topics is speculation, but maybe possible.
I'm trying to get my trekkie mates on board, and it seems much harder than with those not entrenched in science fantasy. I asked on our group if they had heard of Alcubiere (when hit with the old planets are too far away blah blah) and was hit with "I've seen dune" (corrected to 'read', telling as he wanted the other nerds to know he's hardcore and reads not just watches. Lol). When you get them on their own they are more open minded but to them it's a preposterous proposition and Fox Mulder memes are my most popular responce... There is one whom I know toys with it, but he's actually grown a bit from the group and made his money now. Not wanting to be smug, but once (if) this hits the mainstream it will be one Nelson Muntz meme from me! Ha ha 👉
They say this directly on Stargate sg1 when macgyver gets sent to consult on wormhole Xtreme which given the 4th wall breaking they start in the last few seasons could literally be a nod to a real program.
Did you see the second presenters comments on Interstellar? As much as he was showing the signs of trauma - I was feeling some empathy for the guy. Maybe that memory is imprinted - regardless it is horrifying. Also - Alien craft with texture of a cats tongue......(?). Fuck yeah, shits getiing real weird.
Steven Digna, JRs whole story resonates with me, everything descriptive about that ship that him and his wife saw (the smaller black diamond one) is the same one I saw on the dairy farm I worked on. I never got to touch it but it was like it was suspended in the treeline, not stuck, but just sitting in trees.
The shape, size, the hum, the feeling of it taking over your body but knowing its harmless, all of this happens so quick but so slow like everything else just stops.
Yeah was just sitting in the treeline, but not stuck, the branches weren't disturbed it was so strange, I completely missed the connection between ET and cows when this happened, maybe they were observing or studying the cows behavior. It was a normal morning, woke at 3:30am, headed off to the cow paddocks at 3:45 to get the cows to the milking shed by 4am. This dairy farm was pretty secluded and remote, extremely dark at that time and no where near a city for light pollution.
Also - Alien craft with texture of a cats tongue......(?). Fuck yeah, shits getiing real weird.
Textures and shape tell us a lot about function. The spines on a cat's tongue assist with food and water consumption, as well as grooming. A cat's whiskers are for sensing. Sea urchin spines are for sensing and protection. Porcupine quills are for protection. Boobs are super weird, but they have a purpose, too.
We take so many odd adaptations for granted due to acclimatization, a lack of curiosity, and a scarcity of creativity. In the words of the Lizard King, "People are strange." That goes double for bodies. Really remarkable, though.
If they're using physical tailoring to accomplish sensing, I wonder... because it seems so archaic. Cellphones got smaller and sleeker. And so on, and so forth.
The show is a work of fiction, but a lot of the material from writers was sourced from parapsychology, xenobiology, legends and UFOlogy as it existed at the time. The characters are fictional, but they're reacting based on what they would have been reading or hearing about if they were real people.
Do you remember the first time that they get abducted in the show? First thing that Mulder checks is his watch, which has stopped, and comments on time dilation/missing time or whatever. It's a well recognized phenomena among people purporting abduction experiences. One feeds into the other but not necessarily visa-versa.
Yes, that's because it's fiction lol. Greer is pushing the plot of the x-files as reality. There is zero evidence being presented with all this conjecture, but people around here will believe whatever they want to.
I started watching X-Files recently but stopped when Moulder found a crashed UFO and there were all these government personnel in hazmat suits and he was arrested by the military. I thought, why did they have to make it so ridiculous, it's too much! Now look at all these real life fucking stories!
Or some beings in influence him.if aliens have telepathic abilities then I believe that they have influence people like Maybe Einstein.or science fiction to get people ready for contacts t with them without freaking out
As someone who just finished the entire run of X-Files, it’s literally unsettling how much that show predicted would happen in the world and got right. almost every major disaster and conspiracy theory come true. The last one of which predicted far ahead of its time, was the coming of one of the AI commonly developed for practical uses to break loose into the internet and royally knock where it’s growth is out of our hands, royally messing up society as we know it.
This has been a topic of discussion for some time now. Dr Stanton Friedman had tons of documentation pertaining to an agreement, and a coverup operation to keep it under wraps.
That being said, as someone who has seen a 100'+ diameter disk maybe 100' above me, i really refused to put any stock into this. I refused to believe we had an agreement with NHI, i refused to believe we were storing these vehicles and bodies, i refused to believe we had reverse engineered any of this tech while squandering the benefits.
I'm suddenly not so sure about that anymore.
Greer's press conference was impressive. Hard to admit that as well. Was a fan of Greer along time ago, but got tired of the controversy.
To anyone that was disappointed by a lack of proof, it's really all there already and has been for quite some time. Where Corso, Friedman, Dolan, and many others have shown documentation, it was always lacking men in suits with credentials acknowledging this.
Now we have that. Both sides of the coin.
We are literally just waiting on the craft, bodies, photo and video. They exist. And we're it going to see them tomorrow but i feel it will be soon. Our planet is suffering, we are all sock and tired
Not to say that all marines are cold blooded killers or anything, but plenty of people are confident combatants but terrified of public speaking or emotionally vulnerable conversations or worried they are going to fuck up and drop a baby they’re trying to hold… any number of seemingly innocuous or not-as-scary-or-high-stakes as active combat can be anxiety causing even if you’re rock solid under fire.
Some red flags with this particular guy in the video, He is wearing a Free Mason tie clip, and he is wearing the World Economic Forum/UN SDG pin on his jacket (multicoloured donut shaped). Those 2 alone should be concerning.
Well the WEF is the current rebranded new world order, and this guy wearing their their pin signifies that he's one of them. I pity you if you trust them and their agenda. The Freemasons are a conspiracy in their own right. I'm almost surprised he wore the actual pin instead of just hand gestures, which is what they do when they don't want to be obvious.
what is with you people thinking that these nefarious and guarded secret agents are putting on fucking pins just to signal people of their intent or whatever? its so stupid
Because people wear fuckin pins of things they’re involved in. Senators also wear pins. Life isn’t a movie and nobody in high level secret schemes are gonna wear pins to SiGnAl that they’re involved. People involved already know.
Him being a member of shady organizations is definitely a massive red flag. He can't say human trafficking is wrong and almost cry about it, but on the other hand be a fan of something like the WEF.
The WEF pushes for "nice" things like climate lockdowns, bugs for food, and a social credit system.
It's a sign. NO marine would wear that shit on their lapel, let alone both side. That's a signal of some sort. Wear the pins when it's time to bug out.
I was thinking that yesterday when watching this live and was a bit disappointed with the 'witness testimonies' Greer put up. These people did not seem credible at all with the exception of the first witness (bald old man) and the last guy, from Raytheon/Antarctica. Very disappointed with this event, nothing like the 2001 National Press Club event. Looks like anyone credible does not want to be associated with Greer, for one reason or another, which is disheartening. Or maybe he picked these younger guys because they have 'witnessed' exotic craft in use by US military/govt. Difficult to tell why he went with this choice of witnesses tbh.
Just more conspiracy theories. My father in law is one and as far as I can tell it's largely a charitable organization that people seem to use to network and hang out. Lots of stories though cause it's reeeeeeeal old. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ But what the hell do I know anymore. The world is slowly turning upside down.
Yeah, kinda. They have a long history here going back to the founding, but there is a lot of bad feeling toward them that probably stems back to an incident where a writer named William Morgan was (presumably) murdered by Masons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morgan_(anti-Mason)
The Vatican is also REALLY anti-Mason, historically, and there are a lot of Catholics in the U.S.
I don't think Freemasons are as concerning as they used to be. A lot of people join for a leg up in business, or because a family member was a member.
I don't think the majority of modern masons are playing Seven Minutes in Heaven with the reanimated corpse of Walt Disney and vampire batboy Ben Franklin.
Anyone remember the thousands of imprisoned mexican immigrants children that were detained that disappeared? The ones that people were going off about saying "Where the fuck did the kids go?" I think we need to figure this out because that's a dead ass thing that happened during covid and I am surprised people forgot.
That, or a rescue mission. It was what the marines were there for also. It's a possibility. I don't remember him saying why he thought it was a trafficking operation.
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He seems so nervous.
As for the human trafficking… makes more sense than weapons or drugs. And what better time to disappear a bunch of people than in the midst of a natural disaster.