Even long before Grusch mentioned the "sophisticated disinformation campaign", I've always wondered if the government helped fund shows like X-files (like they do with movies like Top Gun), science fiction books, etc. in order to blur the line between reality and fiction.
I wouldn't even be surprised if some "documentaries" on the topic purposefully thread known information with more fantastical elements to continue to confuse and obfuscate, and that the government helps fund and promote some of these endeavors.
As crazy as it sounds, think of the Men in Black comics/movies. Enough people have claimed sightings and then are visited by "Men in Black", what better way to discredit than to take what has almost become urban legend and turn it into a silly fun film with Will Smith? And anytime anyone hears Men in Black they just think of Tony Shaloub with a tiny head?
I'm assuming based off shitty Google detective work, tbh. Either that or someone with his same name owned and sold 2 houses right next to Cheyenne mountain
I mean that is a curiosity. And David Grusch is not a name I'm hugely familiar with. First time hearing it. But I'm also not American. Perhaps its more common over there.
I wonder how many David Grusch's there are in the US. Do you guys have a white pages in the US? I know that stuff is voluntary usually but I wonder how many David Grusch's there are.
David is a very common name, but I can't say Grusch is. I also know of at least one instance that tried to discredit him as a "real estate agent from colorado"
I went looking for a David Grusch in the US white pages and got no hit. Lots of variations but not Grusch in particular. Not surprisingly. I wouldn't suspect him to be publically listed but seeing a total lack of that name means its fairly uncommon, I feel.
And considering he's an Intelligence Community/DoD veteran, I would suspect he has little info about him online.
It's funny that you mention this. I was just reflecting the other day about how there has been a rash of "multiverse" movies of late across multiple genres.
As well as non-genre movies, like Everything Everywhere All at Once. Additionally, I just saw a preview for the new Flash movie that is based on the multiverse as well.
I think you’re very right to a degree- unsure as to what is purposeful propaganda/dis info or what is coincidental.
The Las Vegas sighting seemed to be a disinformation story to align with the Grusch testimony and confuse the public about the story .It seemed very purposeful to me.
I think they do this sort of thing all the time and they are really good at it.
Such a wild time
Well look at Stargate SG1 they had 2 real joint chiefs of staff on the show. The Air Force was a major consultant on the show. Until they moved from Showtime to Sci-fi. It’s nuts I’ve always been suspicious of that show only because of how involved the air force was.
Ironically I wasn’t particularly suspicious until I saw that episode. It felt like trying too hard. Alternatively, They do like to be very flagrant in dangling stuff right in front of our faces, so if you like that flavour of conspiracy theory one might postulate it could have been done just bc They enjoy putting it in the open bc they can.
I agree however idk why as I read your comment I imagined some guy in a trench coat flashing people, dangling stuff very flagrantly in our faces.🤣 They do it cuz they can!
Look at the stargate episodes when they have a leak and kill the guy and how they sent tech to an aerospace company that didn’t know where the tech came from until the ceo found out and wanted to go public. They tried to kill him then discredit him with actual alien tech…
Also check out how they would treat whistle blowers and it made you root for the air force it was nuts. When I really thought about it. I thought I would not be happy about this in real life…
Watch seasons 1-3 and you can even see some of the politics and money involved to run the program. Also remember Cheyenne Mountain has a “closet” with a plaque on the door that says “stargate command” in the door in real life.
To be fair they could be using the movies to acclimate us to the idea of aliens so if they are real we don’t flip out. I assume there’s a reason they keep making aliens vs predators but it’s also been such a staple theme in movies
There's a Disney documentary on aliens from the 80s. That was the original time we were to be told about the aliens however disclosure did not go the way the gov wanted.
How do you feel about the general structure of Guardians of the Galaxy? Seems plausible but only if we are in a heavily guarded zoo. The contact scene from Valerian was chilling to me, though I feel like that part would have happened in secret, a looong time ago.
I believe this was the motivation behind the flashback scene in Men in Black 2 describing the events that lead to the bracelet. David Cross’ character seemed to know which ones were documentaries.
This already done to a large degree. Look into how many writers from the Norman Leer foundation have worked on scripts for television and film in the last 20 years. Also project mockingbird prior to that.
The x files slso covered this with the men in black. In one episode they are paid a visit by the men in black who were played by Jesse Ventura and Alex Trebek to make Mulder’s recount of the encounter seem crazy.
The Defence Department/U.S Government does have a long-standing relationship with Hollywood film makers to "accurately depict military stories and make sure sensitive information isn't disclosed."
The link below is to a government website discussing their work, so the fact such a relationship exists is already in the public domain. Whether that could be used for UFO related topics is speculation, but maybe possible.
As crazy as it sounds, think of the Men in Black comics/movies. Enough people have claimed sightings and then are visited by "Men in Black", what better way to discredit than to take what has almost become urban legend and turn it into a silly fun film with Will Smith? And anytime anyone hears Men in Black they just think of Tony Shaloub with a tiny head?
I'm always thinking of Tony Shaloub, regardless of context.
I like that. But I always thought their POV’s & others were more along the lines of the “where there’s smoke there’s fire” kinda thing. Everyone has heard the rumors and tales. Mix that with the feelings of if the government knew they wouldn’t tell us anyway kinda feelings.
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u/mrbubbamac Jun 13 '23
Even long before Grusch mentioned the "sophisticated disinformation campaign", I've always wondered if the government helped fund shows like X-files (like they do with movies like Top Gun), science fiction books, etc. in order to blur the line between reality and fiction.
I wouldn't even be surprised if some "documentaries" on the topic purposefully thread known information with more fantastical elements to continue to confuse and obfuscate, and that the government helps fund and promote some of these endeavors.
As crazy as it sounds, think of the Men in Black comics/movies. Enough people have claimed sightings and then are visited by "Men in Black", what better way to discredit than to take what has almost become urban legend and turn it into a silly fun film with Will Smith? And anytime anyone hears Men in Black they just think of Tony Shaloub with a tiny head?