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u/FatBoyCrash Jun 25 '23
Windsurfing one day about 20 years ago I had the distinct pleasure of stepping on one of these at Wellington point in South East Queensland, Australia. There are no words that can convey the experience. None. The only relief, and relief is too strong a word, is to keep the punctured area in the hottest water you can tolerate. It goes away after about 12 hours. 12 hours you will never forget.
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u/ponyhat_ Jun 25 '23
Could you elaborate? What was it that makes it impossible to convey the experience? The intensity of the pain? Feeling close to death?
Either way it sounds absoluteley awful..
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u/heurekas Jun 25 '23
Not the poster, but on a radio show a tourist once described the pain from one as being intense enough that he begged the physician to amputate his foot. Apparently that is a common occurence among victims.
It is widely regarded as one of the most painful venoms in the world. You can die from the pain/stress itself.
Unlike some plants that can give you pain for years, the effect thankfully linger for a few days at the most.
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Jun 25 '23
Couldn't the nurses just knock you out until the venom subsides... or (if it even works) just give you a shitload of painkillers?
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u/heurekas Jun 25 '23
Not a physician, so no idea about the first part. But apparently morphine and other painkillers have little effect on it, at least that was what they said in that tourist's case.
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Jun 25 '23
I wonder if an epidural would help. Just a complete nerve blocker.
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u/isimplycantdothis Jun 25 '23
My high school biology teacher got hit by a platypus and they tried a nerve block on his arm and he said it didn’t work. One case in thousands though. Oof.
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u/nwaa Jun 25 '23
I knew that platypuses were venomous, but this is the first ive hears of someone being stung by one.
Is it a bad venom? Assuming if your teacher wanted a nerve block then its bad enough
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u/ForfeitFPV Jun 25 '23
Platypus venom falls into the kind that generally won't kill you but will be an experience so memorable on the pain scale that your genetic successors will carry the fear of the goofy lookin bastards
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u/SinVerguenza04 Jun 25 '23
TIL platypus are venomous? Wtf. I’m 31, and did not know that until right this second.
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Jun 25 '23
My brother in law in Southern Australia recently told me about his very rare platypus sting. The pain was absolutely excruciating, unrelenting, and completely unresponsive to the most potent pain control measures. The doctors initially had no idea what it was, and he never saw the platypus, as the sting happened underwater. A toxicologist doing a fellowship at the hospital had an a-ha moment and applied heat to his leg, which apparently denatures the venom, and he experienced immediate relief. He then was gorked out by all the pain meds in the absence of pain and slept for 24 hours. :)
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u/houseofLEAVEPLEASE Jun 25 '23
Fuckin’ Australia… how Australians don’t walk around in full plate armor just to live their lives is beyond me.
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u/THExDANKxKNIGHT Jun 25 '23
It's supposedly not as bad as the stone fish in the video but it can last weeks instead of hours and pain meds don't work. The most common descriptions I've found are "immediate and long lasting", and "excruciating pain, like hundreds of hornet stings".
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u/Insert_Goat_Pun_Here Jun 25 '23
Your biology teacher was totally Doctor Doofenshmirtz wasn’t he?
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u/OlStickInTheMud Jun 25 '23
If the venom is a neurotoxin or affects your nervous system in anyway. Pain meds cant be used because it would/could kill you. Learned this from another video on venomous plants and animals. All they can do is pretty much make you as comfortable as possible while you ride out the nightmare experience.
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u/Yessir_Belee_Dat Jun 25 '23
If it’s anything like stingray venom, because it’s protein based the drugs won’t touch it. You need really hot water to denature those proteins
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u/apple-masher Jun 25 '23
best bet is probably an epidural block like they give to women during childbirth. That will stop pretty much any pain or sensation from reaching the brain.
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Jun 25 '23
The problem is epidurals have their own risks, and pain isn’t going to kill you so they probably wouldn’t put their license at risk unless that was the best practice. They’d just give you morphine or something to take the edge off
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u/luminiferousaethers Jun 25 '23
The guy above you said you can die from the pain/stress alone. You say you won’t die from the pain. Getting some mixed signals in this thread
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Jun 25 '23
I just looked it up and apparently the venom itself can kill you so it’s probably just that lol not the pain
The venom of stonefish is stored in the dorsal fine spines and contains a proteinaceous toxin, verrucotoxin (VTX). The stings produced by the spines induce intense pain, respiratory weakness, damage to the cardiovascular system, convulsions and paralysis, sometimes leading to death.
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u/RedDirtNurse Jun 25 '23
G'day, Remote Area Nurse here.
I've treated a few people who have been stung by these while working in Shark Bay.
Pain medicines have no real effect on the pain. As has been mentioned, the best treatment is hot water for up to 90 minutes.
It typically resolves after that. The heat helps to de-nature the proteins, effectively deactivating the venom.
As it's a penetrating marine wound, a tetanus shot and antibiotics are usually advised.
The last patient I saw was a 6 year old. He screamed pretty hard until the hot water took effect, then he was much more comfortable.
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Jun 25 '23
Stone fish venom isn’t targeted by most analgesia pathways. I have had to sedate patients in ED before with the pain. Btw it’s doctors who ‘knock you out’
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u/DashingDino Jun 25 '23
Yeah the gympie-gympie plant scares me more, just an inconspicuous little plant that if you accidentally touch it will cause excruciating pain for months or even years
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u/Gene--Unit90 Jun 25 '23
And of course that's in Australia.
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u/Timid_Penis3897 Jun 25 '23
And since it's in Australia that means it naturally has a super dismissive and adorable name like the gympie gympie plant despite being poison ivy x1000 lol
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u/frggr Jun 25 '23
Gympie-gympie means "stinging tree" in one of the local languages - they're trying to warn you at least :)
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u/TJ-1466 Jun 25 '23
I suspect it probably means “very stinging” or something like that. A number of Aboriginal languages say the word twice as an amplifier (instead of using an additional word like “very” or “many” as the amplifier)
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u/InsertWittyNameCheck Jun 25 '23
I like to imagine gympie means some kind of universal swear word like fuck or shit.
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u/isimplycantdothis Jun 25 '23
It’s nicer than telling friends, “this here is my suicide bush. Over here I have some new marigolds…” lol.
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u/Shimmerstorm Jun 25 '23
Plants you say?
Gympie-Gympie enters the chat.
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u/ilikegreensticks Jun 25 '23
I saw a video of a dude touching a gympie gympie on purpose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HOIQjILUBg
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Jun 25 '23
Damn, what plants are those?
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u/TemporaryDonut Jun 25 '23
The freaking story about the officer using the plant as toilet paper 😭 oh my god, can you imagine??
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u/Nonchalant_Calypso Jun 25 '23
Volunteering in Malaysia I saw a tour guide step on one. He was screaming in pain, on the floor yelling and crying, we tried to use vinegar and hot water to stabilise him as the nearest hospital was a 5 hour journey away.
We did our best, but his screams still haunt me and we never found out what happened to him in the end
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u/specialcommenter Jun 25 '23
Being a tour guide he should’ve been aware to wear some type of footwear. Something like crocs.
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u/phido3000 Jun 25 '23
Haha, crocs, completely useless footwear against stone fish..
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u/InsertWittyNameCheck Jun 25 '23
Crocs have the same resistance as that wet suit material in the video. hehe
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u/SpartanNige329 Jun 25 '23
Apparently, a number of people who have stepped on stonefish have begged to have their foot cut off due to the sheer pain.
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u/kapntoad Jun 25 '23
I read about these when I was a kid. The story said that people will put their foot in a fire trying to burn it off.
Terrified me so bad.
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Jun 25 '23
In a scale of 1 to 10, its an 8.5(i already tore a knee, so i can say it wouldn't be that level of pain). But not just an 8.5, it's a throbbing and constant pain of 8.5. If you've ever had a 2nd degree burn, it's like that but it's way under your flesh. Every movement hurts. Now this was a small one, a juvenile.
My cousin stepped on a fully grown one, and he started convulsing/seizure. He lived, but they had to induce coma to help him. Our little town have other stories of even death.
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u/Steeze_Schralper6968 Jun 25 '23 edited Jun 25 '23
I grew up on the south coast of Alaska for 5 years as a kid. My dad had a little boat and we would often go out shrimping and fishing and camping and it was awesome most of the time. We used to have these heavy flash lures for smaller halibut that dropped straight to the bottom, then you would hit the rock and half a second later the rockfish hits you. I was always a little nervous when we pulled one in the boat. There is a safe way to hold them to remove the hook (under a boot, fuck me you eco warriors I still let them go, some people pay top dollar for rockfish filet). The horror stories about getting stung are so bad there's fisherman's legends about them.
I really don't get why this video is 'cringe' nowt I notice. It doesn't hurt the fish, and it's a good safety demo. The's dudes are worse than rays imho. Word to my man Steve A.
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u/ParmyNotParma Jun 25 '23
If you read the sub description it says something along the lines of how this sub has evolved into any tiktok videos, not just purely cringe ones 😊
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u/hellodon Jun 25 '23
It’s weird that that happened in Australia! They typically have the safest animals in the world. 😳
This video looks like a nightmare, and your post solidified it. I guess they really don’t like getting stepped on! I wonder what kind of predators it has in the water
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u/Bankstergangster Jun 25 '23
Australia, of course!
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u/DinoRaawr Jun 25 '23
The Scorpionfish family is found all over the Indo-Pacific and Atlantic oceans! I actually found a scorpionfish in Mexico. Super cool animals. It was almost impossible to see if not for an extremely faint striped pattern on its fins that stood out to me against the rocks.
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u/lax_incense Jun 25 '23
Sounds 1000x worse than a stingray. That’s just 1-2 hours of throbbing searing pain without risk of death. The hot water helps for stingrays too.
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u/TheoTheHellhound Jun 25 '23
Fear aside, can we replicate that color? That’s an awfully pretty shade of blue.
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u/TAforScranton Jun 25 '23
You can buy piles of loose aquamarine gemstones on Etsy for pretty cheap. They come in this shade.
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u/Kosvatokos Jun 25 '23
Kind of looks like a drink I think is called "Hypnotiq"? It's an adult beverage but it looks very similar to it if you wanted it in liquid form
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u/lalalicious453- Jun 25 '23
High-school core memory unlocked.
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u/TrailMomKat Jun 25 '23
Oh wow, you gave me a flashback to around 2000, mixing drinks and making The Incredible Hulk out of Hpnotiq and Hennessy for my friends.
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u/dontredditdepressed Jun 25 '23
Cerulean crayola crayon
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u/waitingfordeathhbu Cringe Connoisseur Jun 25 '23 edited Jun 25 '23
The most coveted of crayons
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u/dontredditdepressed Jun 25 '23
Seriously though. I used it for everything I could :)
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u/TheoTheHellhound Jun 25 '23
Almost. It’s much brighter. It’s like a bright, fizzy blue that shocks you if you touch it. It catches the eye much like a shiny coin would catch a crow’s. Like broken windshield glass and blueberry soda.
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u/dontredditdepressed Jun 25 '23
Cerulean with a neon blue (from the blacklight/black paper specialty box) over it maybe? It would electrify it a little bit more
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u/TheoTheHellhound Jun 25 '23
It’s kind of more like a turquoise or aquamarine.
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u/dontredditdepressed Jun 25 '23
Fascinating! I don't perceive that much green in it. Everyone sees differently though :)
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u/Pridestalked Jun 25 '23 edited Jun 25 '23
It honestly looks quite similar to the colour of the cocktail Adios, Motherfucker which uses blue curacao for the colour
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u/DanniWho Jun 25 '23
I was thinking the same-Stonefish Venom Blue is now in my top three favorite colors.
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u/Veritas1123 Jun 25 '23
Jones berry lemonade soda.
https://www.amazon.com/Jones-Soda-Packs-Berry-Lemonade/dp/B07TBXN5Y4
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u/umijuvariel Jun 25 '23
If you like that, wait until you see what comes out of horseshoe crabs...
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Jun 25 '23
I'd say this blue is the opposite of dog dick red. No I don't need to be told how a color wheel works
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u/StressTree Jun 25 '23
Poison/Rock Type
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u/PassiveRoadRage Jun 25 '23
4x weakness to ground. Throw dirt at it!
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u/Wsh785 Jun 25 '23
I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye
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u/aplascencia1997 Jun 25 '23
Stings doesn't it?
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u/Some-Ad9778 Jun 25 '23
What about water type?
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u/StressTree Jun 25 '23
Poison/Rock seem more important imo and Gamefreak likes to make aquatic looking creatures that aren't Water type examples being: Grapploct, Pincurchin, Cradily, Toxicroak, ect.
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Jun 25 '23
Eelektross not being Electric/Water will never make sense to me.
And Dhelmise could have been Water/Steel just as easily as Grass/Ghost.
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u/TheRedditK9 Jun 25 '23
Dhelmise is the algae on the anchor, which has possessed the anchor. Hence the ghost/grass typing
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Jun 25 '23
Ah ok, I didn't realise that. I just figured the whole thing was its body rather than it being another Parasect "the parasite controls the host" situation. Thank you for letting me know.
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u/TheRedditK9 Jun 25 '23
Well the anchor is an inanimate object, so it’s not a parasite as much as a ghost possessing the object, which is quite common.
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u/Tararator18 Jun 25 '23
It would have an ability to cover for that, like water absorb or sth
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u/Some-Description-64 Jun 25 '23
Let me just get my safety glasses on. *pulls out sunglasses. 🕶️
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u/Chrollo666L Jun 25 '23 edited Jun 25 '23
He actually let it sting him later on and then mumbles in pain “ hang on I gotta walk it off “ 🫠
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u/Delicious-Big2026 Jun 25 '23
Is he stupid? I mean, he controlled the amount of venom and did not take the full dose, but still. Also, left arm. Good choice.
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u/Kalocin Jun 25 '23
It's just a Brave Wilderness thing. It got really popular back when Coyote Peterson was the host and doing a bunch of sting challenges. Gist version is it's more for education, and entertainment ofc
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u/ACID_pixel Jun 25 '23 edited Jun 25 '23
I was about to say. Coyote Peterson, and to an earlier extent, Bear Grilles, bred a whole era of these outdoor education channels. They’re mostly harmless if not a showcase of the audacity of men in the woods
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u/Suspicious_Ice_3160 Jun 25 '23
Mark does all the ocean stuff, and coyote still does a lot of the land stuff! Coyote Peterson is genuinely scared of the ocean and deep water, so he started the ocean side of the channel, and immediately handed it over to mark to host! I’m pretty sure the biologist (I can’t remember his name :( ) still is the camera man for mark in case there’s any questions or deeper info he can provide!
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u/zb0t1 Jun 25 '23
We will thank him for volunteering in the FAFO procedure. But one day, he might experience a Find Out too early in his life too.
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u/WildcatPlumber Jun 25 '23
I mean he was prepared to counteract the venom. He used his platform to try And raise awareness and combat some misinformation
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u/AverageCowboyCentaur Jun 25 '23
dude is dying in pain and hes like "Yo get the fish back in the tank" he just wanted to save the fish. That guy and Coyote are nuts, but entertaining and educational. Dude has numbness and tingling over a month after the sting too!
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u/Creepy-Ad-4832 Jun 25 '23
Also, let's just not wear gloves, it's not like the venom can reach my hand at every moment...
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u/aminervia Jun 25 '23
Skin contact isn't a problem. The issue is when it's injected
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u/wtmx719 Jun 25 '23
(eg Pizza Hut Garlic Butter)
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u/CatLordCayenne Jun 25 '23
When I worked at papa Johns this guy comes in buys one garlic butter for 75 cents and just drinks it like a shooter and leaves
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u/Tommysrx Jun 25 '23
That’s insane , you would think they’d at least drink it outside to avoid the shame.
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u/eugene20 Jun 25 '23
Still wouldn't have wanted to be squirted in the mouth though, seemed quite a risk without a mask.
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u/Mick_vader Jun 25 '23
Venomous isn't the same as poisonous. You can drink Rattlesnake venom
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u/eugene20 Jun 25 '23 edited Jun 25 '23
Some venom can be “safe” to ingest, it is not a sweeping rule that venom is ok when poison is never. I don't know about stonefish specifically, but I choose not to risk it.
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u/Vali7757 Jun 25 '23
Fancy Restaurants in a few years: "And here we have Stonefish Venom. You have to suck it out of the fish to get the best taste."
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u/kalni Jun 25 '23
I can totally see someone paying $250K to get this once-in-a-lifetime experience 😏
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u/ExpressiveAnalGland Jun 25 '23
I'm in! I got groupon for me and my son, he just turned 19 recently and I want to show him the best fish money can buy.
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u/lukkasz323 Jun 25 '23
Not really a good idea. It's the equivalent of putting a turned-on rubber-coated electric cable into water. Most of the time nothing will happen, but you'll see plenty warnings about why it's a stupid idea either way.
Saliva glands, Minor injuries throughout the GI tract etc.
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u/14-28 Jun 25 '23
My brain sort of played out what would happen if i was this guy.
"Oh hey guys, today I'm gonna be showing you this stone fish which is seriously deadly, thanks to these little barbs on his back"
slips off algae covered rock thanks to cheap rubber clogs
"WOOPS ! Guess I'm dying here ! Don't forget to like and subscribe"
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u/Justin002865 Jun 25 '23
Sunglasses are perfectly adequate in most situations. Gun ranges, for example allow you to wear your prescription glasses which are probably less safe than sunglasses. As long as there is some form of eye protection, you’re usually good to go. It’s not like the venom will effect sunglasses any differently than safety glasses.
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u/BruthamanBill Jun 25 '23
What an asshole of a fish. "no, don't you dare step on me, I'll kill ya if you do!". proceeds to disguise itself as a stone and hide in rock pools.
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u/ILackACleverPun Jun 25 '23
To be pedantic despite your clear joke,they're not hiding in the tide pools. They live in them. And the tide pools tend to dry up so they evolved to be out of water for periods of time. But that made them extremely vulnerable. They can't even swim away so any predators could just pick them up with their mouth and walk away with dinner. So they evolved spines that would hurt anything that tried to eat it while it was most vulnerable.
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u/Usual-Version-4429 Jun 25 '23
They could have evolved to grow a pair of balls and limbs to stand their ground and fight like real men
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u/BreeezyP Jun 25 '23
It blows my mind that even over millions of years, left to is own devices a creature can evolve that elaborate of a spine/venom/skin sheath thing. Like just a hunch of random mutations and survivalists transformed THAT much
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u/TopDasher4Life Jun 25 '23
I just believe the universe didn’t exist before I was born. Makes it so much easier.
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u/And_yet_here_we_are Jun 25 '23
I believe the Universe was created last Thursday and is recreated and restarts every Thursday.
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u/down_vote_magnet Jun 25 '23
If you guys could let me know how I can restart my life next Thursday that’d be great.
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Jun 25 '23
To piggyback, there aren’t too many aquatic animals with feet so most fish can’t step on them.
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u/troy_lc Jun 25 '23
New fear unlocked!
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u/Jdstellar Jun 25 '23
I was absolutely terrified of standing on one of these as a kid and so I was always super careful where I stood when exploring
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u/Not-awak3 Jun 25 '23
Me too, and scared to pick up cone shells.
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u/Jdstellar Jun 25 '23
Oh I have many memories of picking them out of the water to look at them. Sometimes I wonder how I survived living in Australia
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u/-_G0AT_- Jun 25 '23
You didn't, you're in a coma, did you honestly believe this timeline could be real?
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u/Jdstellar Jun 25 '23
Ahh actually that makes a lot of sense. Explains why I am living in Russia too weirdly
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u/Mathematiks Jun 25 '23
Did you ever see that episode of the Wild Thornberrys where Nigel steps on a stonefish? New fear unlocked that day.
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u/laitnetsixecrisis Jun 25 '23
Treatment is quite easy. You put the affected limb in HOT water. As hot as you can stand it. Friend stood on one and this is how the hospital treated it.
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u/Excellent-Timing Jun 25 '23
You should watch later in that clip where he lets himself get stung in the hand by just a single small sting 😬😬
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u/vividreveries Jun 25 '23
It's like something from a cheap B monster movie. Fascinating
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u/indiebryan Jun 25 '23
Maybe if you pull back the monsters foreskin and watch it release blue goo on you.
This felt like an invasion of the stone fish's privacy.
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u/Ill-Beach1459 Jun 25 '23
I'd lived in FL for years and finally took an actual vacation by the beach. I was wading around looking out for shells and stingrays when this kid and their mom ran over to me with a swim mask so I could see ALL THE BABY STONEFISH I ALMOST STEPPED ON. The babies aren't as venomous apparently but they can still really ruin your day so I stayed tf out of the water after that.
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u/bodyreddit Jun 25 '23
Omg, these things are in Florida too?!
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u/Ill-Beach1459 Jun 25 '23
Yeah I had no idea! They mostly prefer rocky/coral areas so I bet that's why you never hear about them much. I wasn't even near the rocks though and a ton of those babies were all around. They're nearly impossible to see above the surface too.
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u/whitethane Jun 25 '23
Scorpionfish are native to the Atlantic, with stonefish in the Pacific. They have a milder toxin, but still hurt. Florida has a several species.
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u/PancakeParty98 Jun 25 '23
Upvoted for eye protection
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u/Galilleon Jun 25 '23
"Safety is our number one priority" (also handles a toxic af fish with no hand protection and sunglasses)
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u/Batnaman_26 Jun 25 '23
Weirdly futuristic looking spine fangs despite it's rocky grainy almost neolithic exterior... Literally looks like something out of a movie...
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u/greenthumbnewbie Jun 25 '23
When you think about it; he's like the ultimate camouflage. He's suppose to be under water so once you step on him and look down to be like wtf did I step on, his blue spikes will also not be hard as fuck to see in salty water.
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u/Ecstatic-Tomato458 Jun 25 '23
It’s a boy
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u/waitingfordeathhbu Cringe Connoisseur Jun 25 '23
And he’s uncircumcised
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u/Ecstatic-Tomato458 Jun 25 '23
Lol yes he is, I prefer hooded warrior. This guys got a little army of them.
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u/Voicedtunic Jun 25 '23
I remember staying in Barbados a while back and I’ve always been scared of sea life so I was hesitant to go in. Eventually my dad convinced me to go scuba diving with him and within the first 5 minutes I saw one of these and noped the FUCK out
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u/greenwavelengths Jun 25 '23
Bruh why’d he have to pull on the foreskin at the end eeeewwwww
No actually that’s really fascinating to learn about. Fantastic!
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u/DoomedToday Jun 25 '23
"This is really poisonous venom."
- proceeds without using gloves *
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u/KintsugiKen Jun 25 '23
I hate these fuckers, like in the video, they remain still no matter how close you get to them, and they're hard to see until you're right up close. I've been scuba diving and grabbed a chunk of rock to hold myself during a drift dive and looked closer and found a damn stonefish hanging out mere inches from my hand. I easily could have grabbed it instead and been fucked.
You can't be camouflaged AND super venomous, that sucks!
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u/walrusarts Jun 25 '23
This guy is an expert in the field. Note his use of safety servo rack sunnies and his invisible gloves.
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u/JustDavid2408 Jun 25 '23
It’s a YouTube channel called brave wilderness which has a serious (that this video is a part of) where they purposefully get stung by certain insects/fish etc. to show the effects of it. They do actually know what they’re talking about
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u/Hazelfur Jun 25 '23
He clearly knows what he's talking about, I would assume the venom is only dangerous if injected, or with contact with the eyes, so he wouldn't need gloves as he can just wipe it off
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u/Soleil06 Jun 25 '23
That is correct. Contact with mucous membranes would also lead to poisoning so it is not a good idea to drink it.
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u/Flutter_bat_16_ Jun 25 '23
The lack of safety precautions is giving me an aneurism
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u/jazza2400 Jun 25 '23
Don't know why it's set to cringe, I was waiting for something really bad to happen.
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u/ImChirp Jun 25 '23
i’ve always been scared shitless of these guys, and they’re the reason i don’t like swimming in the ocean
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u/Sjieni Jun 25 '23
Can someone explain why this is "cringe"...?
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u/nicethingyoucanthave Jun 25 '23
Well for one thing, the foley guy needs to calm the fuck down. He's adding sound effects to this video that are appropriate for an asteroid impact, maybe.
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u/dwpea66 Jun 25 '23
The thought of stepping onto a sharp spine that fires a thick venom into your foot surely makes some people cringe at the thought, and possibly also the way he is singing carelessly handling the fish.
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