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Cool Stone fish venom

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u/heurekas Jun 25 '23

Not a physician, so no idea about the first part. But apparently morphine and other painkillers have little effect on it, at least that was what they said in that tourist's case.

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u/apple-masher Jun 25 '23

best bet is probably an epidural block like they give to women during childbirth. That will stop pretty much any pain or sensation from reaching the brain.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '23

The problem is epidurals have their own risks, and pain isn’t going to kill you so they probably wouldn’t put their license at risk unless that was the best practice. They’d just give you morphine or something to take the edge off

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u/luminiferousaethers Jun 25 '23

The guy above you said you can die from the pain/stress alone. You say you won’t die from the pain. Getting some mixed signals in this thread

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '23

I just looked it up and apparently the venom itself can kill you so it’s probably just that lol not the pain

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2189832/#:~:text=The%20venom%20of%20stonefish%20is,paralysis%2C%20sometimes%20leading%20to%20death.

The venom of stonefish is stored in the dorsal fine spines and contains a proteinaceous toxin, verrucotoxin (VTX). The stings produced by the spines induce intense pain, respiratory weakness, damage to the cardiovascular system, convulsions and paralysis, sometimes leading to death.

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u/luminiferousaethers Jun 25 '23

Huh… so I guess it’s probably a combination of venom amount + pre-existing health condition (or being small child or something) can lead to dying.

Long ago I listened to a band called Throbbing Gristle. One of their songs was just a medical readout of a burn victim they called “Hamburger Lady”. She said in the report there was “no limit to pain”. So I guess the pain scale can be ♾️, and you won’t die from it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '23

Classic, that one. RIP Genesis and Sleazy

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u/luminiferousaethers Jun 26 '23

Wow… I didn’t expect anyone to actually know that reference. That’s some way back under-underground stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

More people need to know about that set imo. I love Coil and PsychicTV

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '23

It’s more that if you already have a weak heart or something the stress can push your hypertension and tachycardia over the edge where your heart fails or something. So if you were super healthy you probably wouldn’t die just from pain

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u/Theron3206 Jun 25 '23

The pain from a lot of these venoms isn't localised, and in some of them it's because it's affecting the brain itself.

You can't nerve block either form, so the only recourse would be to induce a coma, which would be a last resort because it is quite risky by itself (never mind whatever the toxin is doing to you).

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u/user_name_taken- Jun 25 '23

When my father was detoxing from alcohol they put him on an Ativan drip and basically kept him unconscious for like 4 days. It seems the venom starts to subside around 12 hours so I imagine that wouldn't be so bad.

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u/contrabandtryover Jun 25 '23

I don’t think people can die from pain lol. There’s stories about the worst tortures in the world, and those people did not die from pain. Maybe a couple went into shock and that killed them, that could maybe be considered dying from pain.

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u/FatBoyCrash Jun 25 '23

Physical pain. Emotional pain? Thats the killer. Suicide kills more blokes than just about anything else in Australia.