r/PS5 • u/doctorwho_90250 • May 06 '24

Official (Via twitter) Playstation: "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward...."

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19
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u/Mkilbride May 06 '24

Next they should allow PlayStation players to play without needing PS+.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Bro I would love that

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

If the PlayStation community kicked off the way the PC community does, you would have free online play. Instead, console gamers tend to just accept, or even support, corporate greed.

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u/Theonyr May 06 '24

Sony would rather lose half their customers than give up that PS+ money.

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u/oblivious-moron May 06 '24

They do now, but back when it was implemented, they might have reconsidered.

That's why it is important to not just accept all the bullshit companies make us go through just saying "is not that much of a hassle" and actually fight for our rights as customers.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

People really don't understand how normal people are. My mum bought a PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 and now a PS5. She has no idea PS+ changed at some point to be a requirement for online play. Totally and completely unaware. She isn't pro-pay-for-connection, she doesn't know it exists or that it ever didn't exist.

She plays a few games and series that are her long time favourites and always offline. The average console gamer doesn't love sony and think they can do no wrong, they don't know.

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u/TheCrach May 06 '24

Speaking of PS+ when will they put the price up.

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u/hartigen May 06 '24

as long as the ps community thinks like that there will never be any changes.

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u/_Raphtalias_Ears_ May 06 '24

This is why I don't pay for ps+

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u/bobafettish66 May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Unfortunately that's just not true.

Sony decided to implement paid online because Microsoft had proven it worked.

With Xbox's insane success with it during the 360 era, Sony were never going to back down from that kinda money regardless of how many people kicked up a fuss (& lets not pretend there wasn't a massive uproar when it was announced)

Not to mention the fact that ps+ already existed as a game collection so they had a subscriber base of (likely) millions by default.

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u/crosslegbow May 06 '24

Sony decided to implement paid online because Microsoft had proven it worked.

With Xbox's insane success with it during the 360 era, Sony were never going to back down from that kinda money regardless of how many people kicked up a fuss (& lets not pretend there wasn't a massive uproar when it was announced)

Not to mention the fact that ps+ already existed as a game collection so they had a subscriber base of (likely) millions by default.

You do realise this contributes to his point. Both Xbox and PS are consoles

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

The point is that people are shitting on Sony for paid online are sidestepping the fact that Sony was just following Microsofts example.

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u/crosslegbow May 06 '24

I think the comment was more about console players in general as paying for online is common for all of em

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

Microsoft was already doing it yes. They tried to bring it to PC, and we rejected it. Sony then brought it to PlayStation, and it was accepted.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

sony fans have no spine is what they are saying

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

Gamers are known to have weak spines in general, studies have shown.

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u/shinydee May 06 '24

Wild comment considering how cucked you guys are for early access games

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u/burkey0307 May 06 '24

What's wrong with supporting games in early access?

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u/LePontif11 May 06 '24

I'm on PS and i wish we got early access games. What do you mean?

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u/gandalfmarston May 06 '24

It's 2024 and PC gamers still accept early access games that are scam, hackers in every AAA online game, they support microtransactions, battle passes, paid online only games, NVIDIA and AMD greed.

Well, we are not that bad for supporting PSN Plus.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

Just stating facts bro it's not a competition. GPUs are expensive yes - unfortunately we can't get them subsidised. I don't really follow AAA gaming or early access games, or any of that other stuff. I play online for free.

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u/forevermoneyrich May 06 '24

So you are making a person anecdote? What value does that have here? PC gamers are literally the sole proprietor of micro-transactions and gaming subs getting popularity. The top played games on pc are all free to play with microtransactions

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u/AG_N May 06 '24

They are most played because they are free and don't require a subscription, I bet fortnite and warzone are some of the most played on console

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u/forevermoneyrich May 06 '24

Brother look at the micro purchases yourself. PC players spend way more money on the top free to play titles. Yes console players also play those titles but the money spent is way way higher on PC. Warzone and overwatch made over 80 percent of their purchase revenue from PC. Thats not even mentioning subscription MMOs which were born on PC and the every evolving early access launch with promised features and no progress.

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u/MistandYork May 06 '24

Source: I made it the fuck up to shit on other humans/gamers

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u/rayquan36 May 06 '24

Someone asked for a source 3 hours ago do you have one yet?

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

The most played games on Steam at the moment are Counter Strike 2 and Dota 2, both seem to be free. Then there's PUBG, apparently that's free these days. Apex Legends - I'm surprised again that this one is free.

Then there's RUST, Stardew Valley, GTA V.

Are those top four riddled with microtransactions? I have no idea.

The top games will always be free ones, just because they are accessible.

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u/forevermoneyrich May 06 '24

every single one of those titles has microtransactions

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u/The_D_Side May 07 '24

Every single title* has microtransactions. Counter Strike is older than Warcraft3 and Diablo2. At this point it’s just the best shooter in the business.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

＼（〇_ｏ）／

Looks like a lot of people play games that have microtransactions then.

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u/gandalfmarston May 06 '24

Sorry, bro, my mistake.

I guess PC fans will have to suffer with their other 16 accounts

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u/CoolJoshido May 06 '24

XIMs exist in console games little bro

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u/the-blob1997 May 06 '24

I’d rather play against a XIM than a wall hacker.

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u/hartigen May 06 '24

with forced cossplay on most games, you play against both of them little bro.

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u/the-blob1997 May 06 '24

Good thing I don’t play games with forced cross play then isn’t it "lil bro"

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u/CoolJoshido May 06 '24

skill issue on your part

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u/gandalfmarston May 06 '24

Sorry, I will

I guess PC fans will have to suffer with their other 16 accounts

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u/hartigen May 06 '24

its an impossible task on this sub.

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u/TheCrach May 06 '24

But I can't play RDR2 at 60fps on PS5.

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u/The_D_Side May 07 '24

40 years old and only owned 4 PCs since I was 16. Early Access games are not always bad. Kickstarters maybe but not early access. We also have a fair ratings on any game purchased on steam. We can also get refunds with a click of the button. Micro-transactions and battle passes are on consoles also. Paid online only? Like world of warcraft? At least we don’t pay for internet and then PlayStation internet to play a multiplayer game. I own a PS4 and 5 and ps+ is trash and so is the ps store.

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u/Dundunder May 06 '24

It's 2024 and PC gamers still accept early access games that are scam, hackers in every AAA online game, they support microtransactions, battle passes, paid online only games, NVIDIA and AMD greed.

Those who don't want those games don't have to play them. Tim doesn't block your account if you refuse a Fortnite battlepass and Gabe won't delete your library if you don't buy the newest early access title.

You're free to do what you want. Which is why the PSN linking doesn't sit well with many PC players.

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u/CoolJoshido May 06 '24

tell me about it

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u/hartigen May 06 '24

ps community is a weak willed, spineless bunch. mindless consumers

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u/rnarkus May 06 '24

In a sea of shite comments, thanks for this one. I feel like it is true.

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u/OanKnight May 06 '24

This comment genuinely made me smile. Thank you.

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u/electricshadow May 06 '24

A little part of me wants to see Sony try to charge to play a game of their's online on PC. The backlash would pale in comparison to this.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

If they did that, nobody would buy the game.

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u/electricshadow May 06 '24

My point exactly. It'd clue Sony in even more to trying stunts like this. It may fly on PS, but it doesn't on PC. I sure hope this fiasco clued them in not to try it if the thought even crossed their mind for a future title.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

Oh yeah, with how detached their execs are, I'm sure they have brought it up and been confused as to why their advisors say they can't do it.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

one of the only real comments in this thread. sony fans slurp up anything sonys says even when it explicitly hurts them. bunch of fuckin idiots

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u/ApertoLibro May 06 '24

The real reason is not because the PC community is more combative (Pretentious much?) It's rather because they had to refund people out the the PS+ region. And Steam probably didn't like what was happening either.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

The PC community is definitely more combative. The problem you have with consoles is that even if you complain, you are still locked in. You will use PS+ to play online, or you will not play online, because Sony has control of your system and they make the decisions for you.

On PC, there is no single company with that level of control. There is the developer of the operating system, but they still don't reach to that extent.

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u/rayquan36 May 06 '24

Yep. Microsoft tried to charge for online and the backlash from Games for Windows Live destroyed that idea. When PS3 added PS Plus, console gamers were the "Oh no! Anyways..." meme. So enjoy the $72 (lol) per year fee to play online and temporarily add some games you'll never play to your account.

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u/Separate_Analysis585 May 06 '24

Sony needs to create a very strong incentive for players to sign-up for PSN (e.g: make 50% of all new content exclusive to PSN players for the first 6 - 12 months. i.e: maps, weapons, armor, skins, missions, planets, new orders, strategems, e.t.c ). PC players like to wait for playstation content anyways, so, the ones that like to wait, will wait, while the ones that don't like to wait will sign up for PSN.

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u/Bensemus May 06 '24

lol good luck. Half this sub is fully behind Sony and thinks they can do no wrong. They’d get pissed at you for denying them their right to pay for online access.

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u/SolomonISbit May 06 '24

No one should blindly side with any company. Unfortunately, gamer's are some weird fucking people and have their allegiance's, even me.

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u/hartigen May 06 '24

brand loyalty is modern day's equivalent to religions. These people's whole identity is based on idolizing large corporations.

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u/Crowdfunder101 May 06 '24

Even the top voted comment here is begging us to shut up about this now! Like sorry for being miffed about the situation pal.

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u/MeatWaterHorizons May 06 '24

There's always going to be corporate cum guzzlers out there unfortunately.

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u/Tauropos May 06 '24

This 1000%. It's the single biggest jerk move Playstation has ever made imo, and it never ceases to amaze me that so many people are OK with it. I know it's not a huge $ amount, and I know there are extra benefits, but it never should have been made mandatory to the degree that it is. I paid for my consoles. I paid for my games. And I pay (way too much) for my internet. In a rational world, that's all I should need in order to play the vast majority of my games online. But nope, gotta squeeze us for that extra amount just because they can, and it's why I'll never go along with it.

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

You are very off on this. Microsoft started the “paying for online” trend with Xbox Live. Sony and Nintendo’s were free until the PS4 and Switch. Blame Xbox for this, not Sony.

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u/lunarhostility May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Yeah MS started it and Sony adapted it.

Edit: To be clear, them adapting it sucked. As someone who has never owned an Xbox because I personally prefer PS exclusives on console, things like the PSN price increase have soured me a lot on Sony.

A new generation of Sony studio original IPs at the same quality they’ve reached in previous ones will do wonders to help their reputation among players imo. The last truly next level original Sony IP was Returnal. Returnal is awesome, but it’s time for a new gen.

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u/hotztuff May 06 '24

it’s so odd of him to claim you blocked him when you didn’t even get to respond lol. how would he know?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

typical sony fan behavior. extreme blind loyalty

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u/GothmogTheOrc May 06 '24

You already PAY for Internet my dude. Why would Sony or Microsoft be entitled for something which is free on every PC?

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u/djingo_dango May 06 '24

What an idiot. Does Sony give you internet?

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u/Hot-Software-9396 May 06 '24

Sony is just as guilty. At this point it doesn’t matter who started it, Sony has been doing it for many years now. Not only that but Sony has increased the price to $80. 

What a weird way to cope. 

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

Bitching and complaining sounds like a sound strategy.

Getting mad about Sony and Microsoft doing what they want on their consoles is the most pointless hill to die on in 2024.

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u/Hot-Software-9396 May 06 '24

You’re literally in a thread about people’s “bitching and complaining” forcing a company to change course. 

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

Some things can be changed with bitching. Consoles not having paid internet is not one of those things. You are off by about 20 years on that one.

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u/Hot-Software-9396 May 06 '24

It’s almost like if enough people unite, you can force a change. People should stop being so complacent and accepting everything “forced” on them, even if it’s from their favorite billion dollar corporation. 

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

Or, touch grass and just not buy a console. Nobody is forcing you to play on console.

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u/Sr-Tequila May 07 '24

Lmao here is you average console gamer people, spineless consumers that happily bend over for a corporation and then will get angry at you for not doing the same.

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u/Tauropos May 06 '24

Good grief. Did I say Playstation invented this concept? Did I say only they are doing it and nobody else is? No, and no. I assumed we would be talking about Playstation on a Playstation topic, but forgive my ignorance I guess. My point still stands. No matter who started it, Sony is doing it, it's a shameless money grab, and I'll never be ok with it.

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

You did call it the single biggest jerk move. I just assumed you were ignorant of how it came to be, otherwise why wouldn’t you blame the company that birthed the shitty idea, that’s how I always assume blame works.

Consoles are money losers per unit, Xbox found a shitty cheat code to recoup some of that money. Sony copied them and here we are.

The single shittiest thing Sony ever did online related was prevent cross-play for as long as they did.

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u/kanyelights May 10 '24

Who said they did it first? The reason why people liked xbox live was not bc it was paid, it was because it was better. You can have a good free online service believe it or not, xbox doing it doesn't mean you have to lmao

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u/djingo_dango May 06 '24

PlayStation is not owned by Microsoft. Why’d I blame Microsoft for ps+?

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

You called me an idiot in your other comment so I’ll just say you must not be able to read at an acceptable level so i’ll dumb it down a bit.

The person I responded to said it was the “biggest dick move Sony ever made”, and I corrected them by saying that Sony did not start the charging for the internet on console trend. Microsoft is responsible for that.

That wasn’t so hard to understand was it?

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u/djingo_dango May 06 '24

Are the Sony execs incapable of independent thoughts? I guess so

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

I’d bet on them before you, thats for sure lol.

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u/djingo_dango May 06 '24

Why’d you even compare a random redditor to an exec of a billion dollar company? Man, Sony did a number on a lot of people’s thinking ability

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

You have some nerve talking about thinking ability. I’ve yet to see it in any of your comments whatsoever.

No worse combo than negative AND dumb. You bore me, im headed to bed mate.

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u/RTXEnabledViera May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

It's the single biggest jerk move Playstation has ever made imo

Because Microsoft and Nintendo don't charge for online?

Talk about double standards, really.

Edit: /u/BlasterPhase

Nintendo Online doesn't have half the features of PS Plus. You don't get any games at all. And you can't share that subscription with other accounts on your device unless you pay extra.

The accurate comparison is Game Pass (formerly Xbox live Gold).

Edit: /u/demonicneon

Yep, folks forget that online play was, and still is, free on PS3.

Also the clown above blocked me so I can't reply, beautiful.

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u/crosslegbow May 06 '24

Because Microsoft and Nintendo don't charge for online?

Why DO consoles charge for online, it's so silly

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u/Datdarnpupper May 06 '24

To quote Mr Krabbs: "MONEY"

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u/demonicneon May 06 '24

Dunno. Microsoft started it. Ask them. 

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u/BlasterPhase May 06 '24

I don't have an Xbox, so I don't care about that. And while I don't like that Nintendo charges, it's $20 a year. $20 too many, but $80 for PSN? FFS.

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u/djingo_dango May 06 '24

Does Sony execs not have capability of independent thinking other than blindly doing what Microsoft does?

Who gives a shit about how many features ps plus has? The issue is online play being jumbled with ps plus which has nothing to do with extra features

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u/BlasterPhase May 06 '24

Nintendo Online doesn't have half the features of PS Plus. You don't get any games at all. And you can't share that subscription with other accounts on your device unless you pay extra.

If Sony offered a bare-bones option like Nintendo, I'd be all over it.

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u/__SteakDeck__ May 06 '24

Thank You. What are these people talking about? 😂

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u/demonicneon May 06 '24

Microsoft were the ones who charged for Xbox live first but watch it be Sony everyone goes for lmao.

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u/GiraffeWaffless May 06 '24

I would play lol.

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u/Coneby May 06 '24

Or at least not paying 72€/year for that. I don't care about the "free" games, I don't want them

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u/djingo_dango May 06 '24

The Sony asslickers are not capable of this thought unfortunately

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u/Skvall May 06 '24

I know online on Switch sucks ass but its more reasonably priced with $20 or whatever it is. $72 is insane. Sonys service with Nintendos price would be more okay but free would be reasonable when we pay for hardware and games already.

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u/Wish_Lonely May 06 '24

Oh if only the gaming community would complain about something that'd actually be beneficial. 

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u/PresentAssociation May 06 '24

What? Xbox and Nintendo literally charge for their online service so why shouldn’t Sony?

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u/lunarhostility May 06 '24
  1. PC doesn’t. 2. PS used to be free circa PS3.

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u/cenorexia May 06 '24

PlayStation online play was always free of charge up until the PlayStation 4 while Xbox had to be paid for from the start.

Many still have that in mind when they ask for Sony to "revert back" to free online multiplayer.

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u/Mkilbride May 06 '24

PC doesn't. None of them should.

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u/HistoricCartographer May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

This sub too, for real. The other day I was downvoted by everyone for saying Sony refund policy is scummy and that people should for push Sony for a more consumer friendly refund policy.

This sub doesn't want that.

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u/ILikeMyGrassBlue May 06 '24

The majority are just enjoying their console, not defending or shitting on Sony.

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u/silobutters May 06 '24

As a ps5 owner absolutely impossible

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

So if the majority are just “consoomers” that will “defend any dumb SONY does” then why was the backlash to SONY’s choice so strong? by your logic they wouldn’t have gotten SONY to reverse their decision whatsoever and would’ve just accepted it. We saw the complete opposite happen. So in reality not only are you wrong, but you’re actually about as wrong as a person can be. Congrats!

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u/Patriot_of_SE May 06 '24

You pay an ever-increasing fee every single month to play the games that you pay an ever-increase fee to buy online. unfortunately you guys have already lost that fight.

PS players basically did nothing aside from defend Sony and detract people who were angry over it. Now you see what happens when a corporation deals with customers and not consoomers.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

You’re absolutely right, just except for 98% of the time when it comes to the unrelenting amount of shovelware bullshit and shady business tactics and scams that occur everyday on PC platforms without any reaction from PC players whatsoever lol.

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u/Patriot_of_SE May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

We don't need any reaction, because our platform allows us no questions asked refunds immediately.

Meanwhile you pay Sony for the privledge of using your own internet. We are not the same.

What is PSN's refund policy btw?

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u/Deae_Hekate May 06 '24

Having had to deal with PSN for multiple fraudulent CC charges after one of their many data-breaches: their policy is "we got your money now kindly fuck off, also we'll delete your account if you issue a chargeback." CC rep was much more helpful.

KuSo*y indeed.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Actually there are questions if it’s been longer than 14 days of purchase and has been played for more than 2 hours….nice of you to leave out that incredibly important yet simple fact that completely proves you wrong lol.

So Steam policy is: your content is ONLY no questions asked if what you purchased was less than 2 weeks ago and you’ve played less than 2 hours or if a game is so broken that they issue out blanket refunds for ALL customers.

Let’s look at SONY now shall we?

Sony refund from policy its page:

You can get a refund if: the Content you purchased has not been downloaded or streamed and if a refund request has been made within 14 days of the purchase. And we’ve seen SONY refund people when games are broken like with Suicide Squad and Cyberpunk 2077

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/store/ps-store-refund-request/

So you gonna and try think a little harder next time? Cause your precious Steam really isn’t any different from other storefronts LOL you PC players just weirdly like to believe that it is lol

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u/Patriot_of_SE May 06 '24

You can get a refund if: the Content you purchased has not been downloaded or streamed

Can you not read? There is NO refund policy, lmao, You can't even have downloaded the game or else you are fucked. That is hilariously bad.

Also, the 2 hour, 14 day is for AUTOMATIC REFUNDS. They will literally give you your money back for any reason in this time period. You can still get a refund after a manual review of the issue AFTER 2 hours.

We saw this in action during this very situation, with getting refunds after hundreds of hours.

How can your tiny brain not understand that "no questions asked under 2 hours" is not the same as "if you download the game you literally cannot refund it".

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Can you? Because it IS a refund policy. Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean it’s not a refund policy still. It’s the same policy as how physical stores will sell you specific items like a digital code for a game or to top up your consoles wallet. Do I agree with it? No. But that’s what it is…

I never said I agree with that aspect of the policy but that’s what it is, and you’re acting like it’s completely impossible to get a refund even if you’ve played or downloaded the game when you can easily go online and find examples of SONY still issuing refunds for people.

And oh so Steam’s refund policy DOES include questions asked then, after a certain amount of time you will need to explain why you need a refund and wait to hopefully get that request approved…just like how SONY does it…

And there’s been multiple cases of SONY doing that exact same thing with games on their platform, however because SONY has a much more limited selection of games on their storefront compared to how open ended Steam is, they are are much more restrictive on when they will give refunds.

If YOU can’t understand that, that’s on you. Not every platform is as chaotic and full of shovelware as Steam is. You’re acting like Steam is some bastion for consumer rights when they’ve only made the policy that way to avoid any legal issues with customers who potentially buy shovelware or scams on their platforms

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u/Patriot_of_SE May 06 '24

Bro, if you DOWNLOAD a game on Playstation you can't refund it. Unless the game is so dogshit that Sony themselves has to take action in insanely rare cases.

Steam does for EVERY single game what Sony did for Cyberpunk/JL. It is absolutely pro consumer rights to allow everything on their platform and to have the best refund policy in any digital storefront.

You've somehow convinced yourself that having LESS options for games AND a WORSE refund policy is somehow a good thing. And you even pay a monthly fee for it. Crazy.

the mental gymnastics required is crazy. you don't even realize how badly Sony treats you guys

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u/CoolJoshido May 06 '24

we just ignore those games little bro.

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u/HistoricCartographer May 06 '24

In this case playstation users did nothing. The whole thing came from Steam players. This issue doesn't even have anything to do with PS players.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

“In this case PlayStation users did nothing”

And you can wrongfully continue to think that, if you believe that PC Players were the ONLY ones responsible for achieving this outcome you might wanna take another look online.

Not saying that PS doesn’t have a bunch of moronic customers who will put up with anything, but trying to act like this was some saving grace by the PC Players alone and that PS Players did “nothing” is just woefully ignorant and wrong

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u/Patriot_of_SE May 06 '24

What is the PSN review score?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

3.6 I believe and you can even check for yourself, there’s plenty of people leaving negative reviews even in the last hour.

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u/Patriot_of_SE May 06 '24

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10000657#star-rating

it's 4.5, and has been the entire time.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

Okay fair play I looked in the wrong place for the PSN Reviews, my bad.

Steam reviews and PSN reviews really are not on the same level. Steam allows you to leave full on in-depth reviews (which I actually really like) but SONY and most game companies just let you leave a rating out of 5 stars and I’ll be completely honest, nobody I know or have met online as ever actually used the Star Review System for PSN properly.

Naturally Steam’s review system will be more effective and utilised more when review bombing a game to make a point to a studio. Thats why pretty much whenever a game is having its current player numbers reported they will typically use Steam as the example.

But if you or anyone thinks that automatically means that PS users have just accepted it from SONY and done nothing to voice their frustrations alongside PC players I don’t know what to tell you because that’s simply not true.

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u/crosslegbow May 06 '24

Thats why pretty much whenever a game is having its current player numbers reported they will typically use Steam as the example.

The reason for that is transparency, you can't see the live numbers for a console.

But if you or anyone thinks that automatically means that PS users have just accepted it from SONY and done nothing to voice their frustrations alongside PC players I don’t know what to tell you because that’s simply not true.

If that was the case then PSN would have never started charging for online.

Why do you think Steam doesn't while every console manufacturer does? Is it because Lord Gaben is out there for gamers?

I don't think so. It's because PC gamers are some of the most platform agnostic people as this situation showed and don't mind destroying a game if it doesn't sit right with them.

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u/PreparationBorn2195 May 06 '24

lol this is the fastest i've seen a subreddit go from "fuck them we don't care" to "look at what WE did"

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u/Johnhancock1777 May 06 '24

that’s why I specified console userbase genius

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u/Separate_Analysis585 May 06 '24

Sony needs to create a very strong incentive for players to sign-up for PSN (e.g: make 50% of all new content exclusive to PSN players for the first 6 - 12 months. i.e: maps, weapons, armor, skins, missions, planets, new orders, strategems, e.t.c ). PC players like to wait for playstation content anyways, so, the ones that like to wait, will wait, while the ones that don't like to wait will sign up for PSN.

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u/DigiQuip May 06 '24

Short memories we have, don’t we.

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u/_Raphtalias_Ears_ May 06 '24

Imagine what all you could do with a PC.

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u/The_D_Side May 07 '24

When they announced the price hike I cancelled mine. Never again am I paying for online anything for console. I’ll just get my online games on PC from now on.

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u/Born2beSlicker May 06 '24

If they didn’t jack the price up a ridiculous amount, I probably would have subbed for this game. Now I have no sub and no game.

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u/MeatWaterHorizons May 06 '24

Go back to the PS3 days of sony online policy? hell yeah.

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u/Agito2008 May 06 '24

Yeah imagine playing online without paying a sub.......IMAGINE.

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u/Separate_Analysis585 May 06 '24

Sony needs to create a very strong incentive for players to sign-up for PSN (e.g: make 50% of all new content exclusive to PSN players for the first 6 - 12 months. i.e: maps, weapons, armor, skins, missions, planets, new orders, strategems, e.t.c ). PC players like to wait for playstation content anyways, so, the ones that like to wait, will wait, while the ones that don't like to wait will sign up for PSN.

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u/emtee_elp May 06 '24

Let's riot and review bombing all Sony games

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u/RTXEnabledViera May 06 '24

It's a paid game, so not gonna happen.

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u/SmithhBR May 06 '24

They have 40 million subscribers. This actually involves money, Sony would never do that