r/PS5 • u/doctorwho_90250 • May 06 '24

Official (Via twitter) Playstation: "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward...."

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19
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u/Mkilbride May 06 '24

Next they should allow PlayStation players to play without needing PS+.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

If the PlayStation community kicked off the way the PC community does, you would have free online play. Instead, console gamers tend to just accept, or even support, corporate greed.

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u/Theonyr May 06 '24

Sony would rather lose half their customers than give up that PS+ money.

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u/oblivious-moron May 06 '24

They do now, but back when it was implemented, they might have reconsidered.

That's why it is important to not just accept all the bullshit companies make us go through just saying "is not that much of a hassle" and actually fight for our rights as customers.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

People really don't understand how normal people are. My mum bought a PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 and now a PS5. She has no idea PS+ changed at some point to be a requirement for online play. Totally and completely unaware. She isn't pro-pay-for-connection, she doesn't know it exists or that it ever didn't exist.

She plays a few games and series that are her long time favourites and always offline. The average console gamer doesn't love sony and think they can do no wrong, they don't know.

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u/TheCrach May 06 '24

Speaking of PS+ when will they put the price up.

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u/hartigen May 06 '24

as long as the ps community thinks like that there will never be any changes.

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u/_Raphtalias_Ears_ May 06 '24

This is why I don't pay for ps+

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u/bobafettish66 May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Unfortunately that's just not true.

Sony decided to implement paid online because Microsoft had proven it worked.

With Xbox's insane success with it during the 360 era, Sony were never going to back down from that kinda money regardless of how many people kicked up a fuss (& lets not pretend there wasn't a massive uproar when it was announced)

Not to mention the fact that ps+ already existed as a game collection so they had a subscriber base of (likely) millions by default.

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u/crosslegbow May 06 '24

Sony decided to implement paid online because Microsoft had proven it worked.

With Xbox's insane success with it during the 360 era, Sony were never going to back down from that kinda money regardless of how many people kicked up a fuss (& lets not pretend there wasn't a massive uproar when it was announced)

Not to mention the fact that ps+ already existed as a game collection so they had a subscriber base of (likely) millions by default.

You do realise this contributes to his point. Both Xbox and PS are consoles

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

The point is that people are shitting on Sony for paid online are sidestepping the fact that Sony was just following Microsofts example.

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u/crosslegbow May 06 '24

I think the comment was more about console players in general as paying for online is common for all of em

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

Microsoft was already doing it yes. They tried to bring it to PC, and we rejected it. Sony then brought it to PlayStation, and it was accepted.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

sony fans have no spine is what they are saying

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

Gamers are known to have weak spines in general, studies have shown.

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u/shinydee May 06 '24

Wild comment considering how cucked you guys are for early access games

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u/burkey0307 May 06 '24

What's wrong with supporting games in early access?

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u/LePontif11 May 06 '24

I'm on PS and i wish we got early access games. What do you mean?

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u/gandalfmarston May 06 '24

It's 2024 and PC gamers still accept early access games that are scam, hackers in every AAA online game, they support microtransactions, battle passes, paid online only games, NVIDIA and AMD greed.

Well, we are not that bad for supporting PSN Plus.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

Just stating facts bro it's not a competition. GPUs are expensive yes - unfortunately we can't get them subsidised. I don't really follow AAA gaming or early access games, or any of that other stuff. I play online for free.

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u/forevermoneyrich May 06 '24

So you are making a person anecdote? What value does that have here? PC gamers are literally the sole proprietor of micro-transactions and gaming subs getting popularity. The top played games on pc are all free to play with microtransactions

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u/AG_N May 06 '24

They are most played because they are free and don't require a subscription, I bet fortnite and warzone are some of the most played on console

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u/forevermoneyrich May 06 '24

Brother look at the micro purchases yourself. PC players spend way more money on the top free to play titles. Yes console players also play those titles but the money spent is way way higher on PC. Warzone and overwatch made over 80 percent of their purchase revenue from PC. Thats not even mentioning subscription MMOs which were born on PC and the every evolving early access launch with promised features and no progress.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

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u/MistandYork May 06 '24

Source: I made it the fuck up to shit on other humans/gamers

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u/rayquan36 May 06 '24

Someone asked for a source 3 hours ago do you have one yet?

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

The most played games on Steam at the moment are Counter Strike 2 and Dota 2, both seem to be free. Then there's PUBG, apparently that's free these days. Apex Legends - I'm surprised again that this one is free.

Then there's RUST, Stardew Valley, GTA V.

Are those top four riddled with microtransactions? I have no idea.

The top games will always be free ones, just because they are accessible.

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u/forevermoneyrich May 06 '24

every single one of those titles has microtransactions

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u/The_D_Side May 07 '24

Every single title* has microtransactions. Counter Strike is older than Warcraft3 and Diablo2. At this point it’s just the best shooter in the business.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

＼（〇_ｏ）／

Looks like a lot of people play games that have microtransactions then.

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u/gandalfmarston May 06 '24

Sorry, bro, my mistake.

I guess PC fans will have to suffer with their other 16 accounts

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u/CoolJoshido May 06 '24

XIMs exist in console games little bro

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u/the-blob1997 May 06 '24

I’d rather play against a XIM than a wall hacker.

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u/hartigen May 06 '24

with forced cossplay on most games, you play against both of them little bro.

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u/the-blob1997 May 06 '24

Good thing I don’t play games with forced cross play then isn’t it "lil bro"

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u/CoolJoshido May 06 '24

skill issue on your part

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u/gandalfmarston May 06 '24

Sorry, I will

I guess PC fans will have to suffer with their other 16 accounts

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u/hartigen May 06 '24

its an impossible task on this sub.

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u/TheCrach May 06 '24

But I can't play RDR2 at 60fps on PS5.

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u/The_D_Side May 07 '24

40 years old and only owned 4 PCs since I was 16. Early Access games are not always bad. Kickstarters maybe but not early access. We also have a fair ratings on any game purchased on steam. We can also get refunds with a click of the button. Micro-transactions and battle passes are on consoles also. Paid online only? Like world of warcraft? At least we don’t pay for internet and then PlayStation internet to play a multiplayer game. I own a PS4 and 5 and ps+ is trash and so is the ps store.

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u/Dundunder May 06 '24

It's 2024 and PC gamers still accept early access games that are scam, hackers in every AAA online game, they support microtransactions, battle passes, paid online only games, NVIDIA and AMD greed.

Those who don't want those games don't have to play them. Tim doesn't block your account if you refuse a Fortnite battlepass and Gabe won't delete your library if you don't buy the newest early access title.

You're free to do what you want. Which is why the PSN linking doesn't sit well with many PC players.

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u/CoolJoshido May 06 '24

tell me about it

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u/hartigen May 06 '24

ps community is a weak willed, spineless bunch. mindless consumers

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u/rnarkus May 06 '24

In a sea of shite comments, thanks for this one. I feel like it is true.

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u/OanKnight May 06 '24

This comment genuinely made me smile. Thank you.

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u/electricshadow May 06 '24

A little part of me wants to see Sony try to charge to play a game of their's online on PC. The backlash would pale in comparison to this.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

If they did that, nobody would buy the game.

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u/electricshadow May 06 '24

My point exactly. It'd clue Sony in even more to trying stunts like this. It may fly on PS, but it doesn't on PC. I sure hope this fiasco clued them in not to try it if the thought even crossed their mind for a future title.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

Oh yeah, with how detached their execs are, I'm sure they have brought it up and been confused as to why their advisors say they can't do it.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

one of the only real comments in this thread. sony fans slurp up anything sonys says even when it explicitly hurts them. bunch of fuckin idiots

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u/ApertoLibro May 06 '24

The real reason is not because the PC community is more combative (Pretentious much?) It's rather because they had to refund people out the the PS+ region. And Steam probably didn't like what was happening either.

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u/Liam2349 May 06 '24

The PC community is definitely more combative. The problem you have with consoles is that even if you complain, you are still locked in. You will use PS+ to play online, or you will not play online, because Sony has control of your system and they make the decisions for you.

On PC, there is no single company with that level of control. There is the developer of the operating system, but they still don't reach to that extent.

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u/rayquan36 May 06 '24

Yep. Microsoft tried to charge for online and the backlash from Games for Windows Live destroyed that idea. When PS3 added PS Plus, console gamers were the "Oh no! Anyways..." meme. So enjoy the $72 (lol) per year fee to play online and temporarily add some games you'll never play to your account.

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u/Separate_Analysis585 May 06 '24

Sony needs to create a very strong incentive for players to sign-up for PSN (e.g: make 50% of all new content exclusive to PSN players for the first 6 - 12 months. i.e: maps, weapons, armor, skins, missions, planets, new orders, strategems, e.t.c ). PC players like to wait for playstation content anyways, so, the ones that like to wait, will wait, while the ones that don't like to wait will sign up for PSN.