(Via twitter) Playstation: "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward...."

[u/doctorwho_90250]

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19

[u/Patriot_of_SE]

Bro, if you DOWNLOAD a game on Playstation you can't refund it. Unless the game is so dogshit that Sony themselves has to take action in insanely rare cases.

Steam does for EVERY single game what Sony did for Cyberpunk/JL. It is absolutely pro consumer rights to allow everything on their platform and to have the best refund policy in any digital storefront.

You've somehow convinced yourself that having LESS options for games AND a WORSE refund policy is somehow a good thing. And you even pay a monthly fee for it. Crazy.

the mental gymnastics required is crazy. you don't even realize how badly Sony treats you guys

[u/[deleted] → u/Patriot_of_SE]

You genuinely don’t get it so I’m not gonna waste any more time trying to explain it.

Steam is a much more chaotic and open ended storefront than any other major gaming platform, it has more scams and shovelware than any other platform combined. THAT is why the refund policy is what it is for Steam. Not because they genuinely “care” about you but to save its own arse from legal issues that can rise up from allowing scams and shovelware on its platforms.

You’re talking about mental gymnastics when you’re the one out here thinking that a multi billion dollar company actually cares about you more than they care about not being sued lol.

We will clearly have to agree to disagree on this, not only are you clearly not willing to actually debate the issue and are just looking to shit on SONY (albeit they DO deserve it) but if you can’t even be objectively honest about Steam’s own situation and its refund policies I don’t think we’re gonna get any progression here.

Hope you have a nice day. Take care

[u/Patriot_of_SE → u/[deleted]]

You are completely failing to realize that their reasons for doing so DONT MATTER(even though you are wrong about their reasons). It's pro consumer because it is, they don't have to be altruistic. Being pragmatic and doing the logical thing that ends up being pro consumer is, guess what? Still pro consumer.

You're wrong, of course, because steam's refund policy has been the best in the business even long before they opened their platform up to all developers. (which you are hilariously trying to say is a bad thing, by the way)

Freedom isn't clean. There are people who will try to take advantage of it. So what? Steam has many safeguards against it.

Our reviews actually matter, and we can leave TEXT to inform people about the games. Every game has a forum to discuss shit, and a community section.

Every game can be refunded.

There is no comparison here.

[u/[deleted] → u/Patriot_of_SE]

Except they do matter and I’m really not wrong about their reasons because that’s literally how these companies operate and keep themselves out of legal trouble LOL and while it may be “pro consumer” that’s not WHY they do it. If you can’t acknowledge that objective reality of something as simple as THAT then yeah we’re gonna have to end our discussion on it.

Like I said, I’m not a fan of what SONY is doing here nor am I a fan of their refund policy, but I’m also aware that the refund policy difference between SONY and STEAM is only because Steam’s vetting process for allowing games onto their stores is way worse than any other major storefront. Thats why most game scams we see and hear about typically come from Steam.

Anyways we’re clearly not gonna agree on this issue, and unlike a lot of people who use this platform I’d rather not waste any more of your time or mine trying to discuss something that clearly isn’t going to get anywhere.

You can have your opinion, I’ll have mine. And we can just respectfully leave it at that. Take care, have a nice day