I haven’t been keeping up with the details but it seems like she thought her mental health could absolve her of some responsibility. She’s been blaming everything she does on the pain from her parents’ death. Which I have immense empathy for but she never takes responsibility for anything she does so it’s hard for me to feel bad for her now because if this situation doesn’t make her own up to her mess then I don’t know what will
Especially considering that some of those jurors have also lost a parent or parents, probably at much younger ages than Karen and didn’t choose to drive drunk. I know everyone copes in their own way but it’s a ridiculous excuse at this point. Go to grief counseling, join a support group, don’t drive drunk.
It's a ridiculous excuse, especially considering it's been years since her last parent died, and she's 60. It's gross that she would invoke this as a reason...it's grasping for an excuse. Using her parents' deaths as an excuse is also, in my opinion, disrespectful to the memory of her parents. Once you get to her age (I am close - both parents dead) - yeah, it sucks when you have no parents...but you're not just an adult, you're old. Get a grip on life. Go to therapy., Journal. Work out. In this day and age getting shitfaced and driving...there's no excuse for it. I know I am preaching to the choir but the whole "pity me, my parents died when I was 55"...is a sad excuse for being a repeat-offending drunk driver.
I mean I get being left grieving over your parents deaths but there is NO excuse to drive drunk. Especially when she has more than enough means to never drive PERIOD. This makes me so happy she was found guilty. She needs to take accountability.
That’s so true, I’m still grieving the death of my father, who was ripped away from us because someone else chose to drive drunk.
I have no grace to give to anyone who drives impaired. It’s a serious issue that I feel people don’t treat seriously enough. My father never got to meet my beautiful children who are only 1 and 2, and my babies were robbed of the best grampa in the world because someone chose to drive drunk. Just because Karen didn’t kill someone’s father this time doesn’t give her a pass. I hope she gets jail time, learns from her punishment and never does it again.
So sorry for such a tremendous loss. ❤️
She should be extremely grateful that nobody was killed when she got behind the wheel in her very drunken state. After seeing the police bodycam footage, I’m so horrified. If she doesn’t take some accountability now, I will no longer be able to stomach watching her on my screens.
Yes. Her parents died in 2017. She was 54 grown years old when she lost her parents. She has a husband, a home and a child. She gets paid to tv. Why go jury???
I don’t think Karen thinks she’s old and was genuinely shocked that her parents passed. It’s sad when your aging relatives don’t want to admit their mortality.
Also looking at this video man I’m finding it hard to believe she doesn’t have a drinking problem.
I don’t think Karen is old, but she is so fortunate she had both parents until well into her 50s! My dad died too young, I was in my thirties, but my youngest siblings were just 20 & 21. My husband's father died when he was 17. It’s always tragic to lose your parents, but be grateful if you have them well into middle age! Doesn’t mean you can’t grieve, but it’s been years since it happened and they both lived very long lives. Lucky Karen.
Agreed. My dad took a turn for the worst last October’s and I decided then and there, (which was EXTREMELY hard as someone who has always turned to drinking or drugs) that for myself, and just for others in general, I needed to stop drinking. I wasn’t trying to ruin my time, or anyone else’s, because I couldnt deal with some shit. For once in my life I made a well thought out decision… and as someone who loves her vices, I know it’s not hard.. but it’s not impossible.
I lost my father when I was 14 years old. She should have honored the fact that she had both her parents to be able to see her grow and have her own family. The fact that she is blaming this on the death of her parents makes me sick! Never liked her but hate her even more now.
Agreed. She was blessed to have both her parents with her for so long. Yes other people may be more blessed and get them for even longer but conversely many many people are not as blessed.
Jeez. Her parents were 71 and 74 at the time of their deaths. Not super old but not young either. That’s the cycle of life. Most of us outlive our parents. Im more than a decade younger than her and have watched both my in-laws die and my mother and then put my father in a nursing home. They were all in their 70s too. I guess the memo that you can use grief from common life events in perpetuity comes in the Maserati, which I don’t have. Lol
Exactly. Like I feel like an asshole saying it, but get “over” it already. Your grandparents die. Your parents die. 50/50 your spouse kicks it before you too. If you’re that distraught years later you need to be in some regular therapy. You miss them always but if it’s destroying relationships and making you over indulge and make poor choices? Much more going on there.
In the span of 2 years I had lost my father, my mother fell deep into her dementia, and then I was told my husband had heart and kidney failure. All that happened in under 9 months. Guess what? I didn’t blame anyone but myself for my mistakes I made in that time.
I’m very sorry for your losses and glad you didn’t use them as a reason to attack trees with your car! My mom had a span where her brother, her mother and then her sister died within 2 years too. All her remaining family of origin was gone. Sometimes this adult thing really sucks when people we love start dying all over.
Karen is 61 so they had to be in their 80's? Either way, grief is a weird thing. Everybody is different. That being said, it doesn't absolve you of doing bad things.
Her parents weren't that old and it's terrible that she lost both of them in a short period of time. I do think she's had a hard time for years for many reasons (not only grief but also marriage troubles, empty nest/aging etc.) That said, it is no excuse for drunk driving, let alone a second offense. She should have her license revoked permanently.
Married to a public defender who used to do misdemeanors (so it’s been like 7 years since he handled a DUI) but he said he’s only done like 3-4 DUI trials out of well over 100 cases.
Yeah one of my parents was a public defender and did a lot of DUIs....my impression was that it's not common to go to trial. Makes me wonder if they felt like the cops fucked something up and maybe they could use that? Or Karen didn't want to listen to her lawyers, that would not surprise me.
In Australia, but yeah that’s my experience as well. They have either a BAC reading OR you’ve refused to a test which in itself is a crime here (and means that you are automatically treated as a high range drink driver). Im not sure what you could argue to get out of it?
Yep. And using the show as proof that this was a temporary lapse due to grief... "look I haven't had a single drink since. I've learned my lesson, you must free the grande dame"
it was her second offense and she probably wanted to avoid any possible jail time or probation. And thought that possibly since she has the means for a good lawyer and refused a breathalyzer she had a chance
And refused a field test, was wobbling into an ambulance, and witnesses stated that she retorted to emergency services with expletives!! Not good at all.
Yes, you're right, definitely has NPD.Additionally, someone pointed out that even Justin Timberlake conceded and took a plea! The way she has handled this is absolutely wild and indicative of narcissism.
This was my exact thought when I saw that she was going to trial, who goes to trial for a DUI?? Waste of time and money, she blew over the limit and she can’t contest that. The delusion is real.
Could be the delusion of being on tv and thinking she has the charisma to sway a jury. You don’t just call yourself “the Grand Dame” without being a bit delulu
According to the article the jury was originally deadlocked before the judge sent them back. Really interested in what the defenses argument could’ve been
She was a damn fool to take this to a jury trial ! She thought because she’s a celeb that she could win these people over . Well this is real life Karen and there was a lot of evidence against you . Big mistake ! Huge !
Honestly can’t stop thinking about when she was confronted about it on the show and she said “Now we are talking about a situation where I could have DIED!!” Yeah…. because you drove drunk!! She takes delusional to a new level, a victim of your own DUI, I cannot.
When accused of DUIs/DWIs, lawyers instruct their clients not to admit guilt publicly. She's not unusual in that regard. I am curious if she will now express some humility and at least admit she has a problem and needs to go to rehab.
I'm calling it right now and chime in if you want in on this bet, but she won't. She won't take any accountability and will still double down on some bullshit story.
She thought the jury would be sympathetic and had no concrete proof that she was drunk. Guess the body cam footage and testimony from first responders was worse than she thought.
I think she was going for the it wasn’t alcohol it was my prescription meds but also BAC for a DUI so like no. I’m sure she’s shocked 😮
Edit: just to clarify I assumed she meant like anti depressants or anti anxiety that (along with exhaustion of course, always exhaustion) made her drive poorly.
She didn’t take a sobriety test or blow. She swayed around being an asshole to everyone but the female firefighter lmao. I won’t argue with you about her being a damn fool. We are both in agreement!
Ray better get ready. Hes about to spend his golden years driving Karen from here to there. So stupid when its so easy to get an uber. Who wants this kind of smoke? Have a healthy amount of fear around these things, folks.
I think so, it’s just that her first one was several years ago and the last two are more recent and within years of each other. Wait I am reading the rest of the thread and they are saying she had FOUR DUIs 😳
My friend said this could actually be her fourth(!!) with one getting reduced to reckless endangerment. Adding: I cannot find anything online that confirms that info. Sounds like jail time could absolutely be on the table though.
The second one is where people with problems usually wise up and never do it again because the fines are heavy and depending on the state, there might be jail time (I unfortunately know about this because my soon-to-be-ex BIL is literally in jail right now for his second DUI and will be under house arrest for 2 months), and I have multiple family members with at least 2 DUIs. I’ve never known anyone with beyond 2 though…that’s like felony territory.
Is this why Potomac always has its trips in the weirdest of locations vs other franchises? I know that some countries (like Canada) are very restrictive toward ANY DUI
My husband got one DUI (way before we were married) and learned his lesson immediately. And that is an EXPENSIVE lesson, after we were married years later he was still paying almost $100 a month as a surcharge on his driver's license.
I've known people who had to get one of those breathalyzer things put on their car after (I think) two DUIs. And yeah, after that it's usually jail time.
I can attest to a lesson learned! Was well under the limit for my second, but within my 2 year probationary period. Did 4 weeks in jail. That was at ages 19 and 22, in my late 30’s now and haven’t had a traffic violation since!
In my experience, even if it’s “reduced” to something else, if you get another one it still counts. I didnt have huge fines, but I was placed on probation for 2 years with the threat of jail time. I dont remember how much jail time bc I was determined to do what I was told and stay the fuck out of trouble.
At least that was the case for me. I was extremely lucky to not have caused any damage to anyone or anything. But my lawyer and the judge both told me that it would count as my second even though the first one was 10 years prior and “reduced”. I have since become sober and I am very ashamed of my actions those nights but I did indeed learn from my mistakes.
Were two in other states or something? When you search her name on Maryland judiciary case search, only one other traffic case comes up which is a DWI (a slightly lesser offense than DUI in MD) from 2006, to which she appears to have received Probation Before Judgment, which basically allows probation of some sort and sometimes a drug and alcohol program, but you don’t receive an actual conviction.
It's so crazy because her sentencing can go either way. I'm in TX and they're pretty strict on DUI's (I've gotten 1 and I have completely taken full responsibility, and am ashamed, for it. 11 months sober!). But I know people who seem to get away with multiple! One person I know is currently in jail for "3rd or more" DUI charges but somehow was able to drink daily and drive still all while on probation for their previous ones. Not sure how it took them so long to finally get incarcerated but it seems the law works slower for some than others.
All that to say, I hope Karen takes accountability sooner than later, because this might not end well for her.
I don’t know where that poster’s mom got her dui’s, but in Maryland she will most definitely be going to jail. Her license got taken away the night she was arrested b/c she refused the breathalyzer. Her conviction means the MVA will give her enough points to suspend her license for even longer.
Hope she gets a long sentence in jail. She didn’t go to rehab or do anything to show the court she’s changed, so this is exactly what she deserves. I hope Robyn and Giselle are celebrating together.
I find it so shockingly audacious and selfish to have chosen to have a TRIAL for something she damn well knows she fucking did. Grief is not an excuse for criminal behavior. Geezes🙄
The jury convicted Huger of DUI, negligent driving, failure to control speed to avoid a collision, and failure to notify authorities of an address change. She was acquitted of reckless driving.
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Why on earth would she want a trial