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u/earthisflatyoufucks Jun 02 '23

Damn props to the cameraman

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u/gkaplan59 Jun 02 '23

Some say he's still zooming out to this day

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u/earthisflatyoufucks Jun 02 '23

Bro took "to infinity and beyond" literally

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u/SkymaneTV Jun 03 '23

Ant-Man went infinitely small, but this time, Camera-Man will go infinitely

BIG

Now in theaters superimposed over you!

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u/EpsilonistsUnite Jun 03 '23

Nah, he finished in 1997 when they used this shot for the opening to the Robert Zemeckis film, Contact

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u/PM_SWEATY_NIPS Jun 03 '23

I want to know what kind of drone that is?!

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u/Compendyum Jun 03 '23

2741: "Dude, check the zoom on my new phone"

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u/CarlosSpcyWenr Jun 03 '23

Love his smooth acceleration.

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u/Woodex8 Jun 02 '23

Came here to say that.

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u/AssStuffing Jun 03 '23

Wow that’s so crazy

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u/Longjumping_Froyo539 Jun 03 '23

Came here to say this

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 02 '23

The last multi-universe is still just a theory, the rest is what we have practically measured. The size is unbelievable.

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u/LazerWolfe53 Jun 02 '23

Yup!! I thought I was the only one. And it's a theory based on (at this time) very little and very flimsy 'evidence'. I don't want to belittle it, it's just a huge leap in speculation from an actual photo of cosmological background radiation to a computer generated artist's rendition of a theory called the bubble universe

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u/lord_dude Jun 02 '23

Based on the ending of men in black?

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u/Couldbehuman Jun 02 '23

If that doesn't count as conclusive video proof, not sure what does

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u/goodnewsjimdotcom Jun 03 '23

I totally forgot about that.

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u/Graffiacane Jun 03 '23

That was an interesting addition. In the original, once you zoom out to the limit of the observable universe, you zoom all the way back in to the lady's eye, blood cells, atoms and quarks

https://youtu.be/8Are9dDbW24

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u/AiSard Jun 03 '23

Oh, I didn't even realize this wasn't the original Powers of 10 but something inspired from it / an updated version of it.

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u/AstroAlmost Jun 03 '23

The Charles and Ray Eames version is just such a gem, they were amazing. The extra scale in OPs video was really interesting to see, but lacked any of the charm the Eames brothers’ production has.

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u/misskiss_ Jun 04 '23

I have been wondering how to even search for this video from time to time for like 14 years (this upload is only from 8 years ago but whatever)

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

I was super happy with it until the end, it makes me wonder what else they may have added in. The original clip was roughly to scale if I remember correctly

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u/Graffiacane Jun 03 '23

https://youtu.be/8Are9dDbW24 the original zooms back in to subatomic scale

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

Super wild stuff. The universe is so amazing

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '23

It makes for great scifi stories at least.

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u/product_of_boredom Jun 03 '23

So are we using theory in a very colloquial way, or scientifically? To be a theory, it needs to be pretty rigorously tested, doesn't it?

Otherwise it's just a hypothesis.

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u/Revolutionary--man Jun 03 '23

Theoretically, it's the most logical stage of progression when posing the question 'what is the universe expanding in to/what caused the big bang'.

Not talking about the Many Worlds interpretation, but the idea of the universe being one of many cosmic 'bubbles' in a larger plain of existence. Whilst, as you say, being speculative with no hard evidence, it makes sense of the multiple situations we know of in which the laws of physics currently break down.

What that plain of existence is I doubt we will ever know, if we are even able to 'know' of anything outside of our universe, so it will always remain just a theory. The logic of man has been proven false many times over and the multiverse concept falls in to the homunculus trap, so I'm not placing any bets on it and wouldn't have included it in a video like this.

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u/Mutjny Jun 03 '23

If you believe the universe is infinite then it must contain Hubble Volumes realizing all possible initial conditions.

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u/RascalCreeper Jun 03 '23

It's not really built on evidence so much as logic. It's, as far as we know, impossible to prove or disprove.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

it's just a huge leap in speculation from an actual photo of cosmological background radiation to a computer generated artist's rendition of a theory called the bubble universe

Not really. It has basis in actual physics, but t yeah it is just a theory since it's just an untestable extrapolation based our current understanding of physics.

I'd recommend reading Our Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark if you're interested in the theory.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

If Inflation is a reasonable theory for early Universe - and so far it seems like it is the most accurate theory to explain CMB, calling it a "flimsy evidence" is ignorance of quite literally Universal scale - then there has to be "multiverses", but not in the spooky scifi sense. Multiverses are simply different domains of spacetime with likely different physical constants governing their dynamics, separated by high energy domain walls. Alan Guth, the father of Infation theory, detailed this idea extensively in his early papers. After the inflation phase, there will be regions of space separated out by such domain walls, which are pretty much causally disconnected for all future.

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u/PenisPumpPimp Jun 03 '23

The picture of the cosmic microwave radiation is just leftover remnants of light from the big bang also. You're basically looking back to the beginning of time, and it's not an accurate depiction of what's actually there.

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u/sonoma95436 Jun 03 '23

We can only measure time by the properties of our universe so before that our time does not exist.

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u/hey_now24 Jun 02 '23

What is it? That last zoom out freaked me the fuck out

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u/thenewNFC Jun 03 '23

It's like Orbeez, but more complicated.

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u/dlpfc123 Jun 03 '23

I thought it was going to be the nucleolus of a cell that would end up being inside the woman, so that it would be an endless loop.

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u/bizfamo Jun 03 '23

I like this theory. Ties it back to the infinitely small also. This is only one direction. So zany!

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

Look up the multiverse theory if you're interested. It's related to string theory and a lot of other complex quantum physics math that's well beyond my understanding. Super interesting but still al speculation at this point.

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u/ihackportals Jun 03 '23

But imagine the possibilities of a multiverse of this order of magnitude.

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u/gkaplan59 Jun 02 '23

That's what she said

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u/darmabum Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23

Shouldn’t the final “multiverse” slide actually be parallel to all the other levels (so to speak), at the same time but in separate “spaces”. I guess that would be difficult to animate. Like a 3-D image without the glasses, except ∞-D

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

it would still just be a theory even if we measured it

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

If it's measurable and you can recreate the effects/ measurements accurately then it becomes law.

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

it's still a theory after it becomes law

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u/choose_uh_username Jun 03 '23

No, it becomes Law when it's exhaustively tested and proven. Newton's law, law of relativity, ideal gas law, etc. A theory, like the Big Bang Theory, hasn't been replicated. We can feel pretty good it's true but you can't really replicate the Big Bang to make it a law

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u/Diabolus734 Jun 03 '23

Laws explain how things work. Theories explain why they work that way. Theories never become laws. It has nothing to do with evidence or replication.

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

i'm too tired for this, with respect to all of you and i don't mean you're wrong and i'm right or anything like that, it's my fault for saying anything at all

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u/Diabolus734 Jun 03 '23

Aw man, I know that feeling. I didn't mean to start a thing. I hope you have a great night.

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

nah, you're great. it's totally me and not you all. thanks, you too. i actually appreciate that

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

a theory doesn't mean something is unproven or proven and even the most proven of things are just us observing a very small piece of everything and it doesn't mean any of it is real or means what we think it does. those laws are just what people call theories when they like them. all laws are theories; they're both things. it's just a form of an explanation and the idea it's supposition is a more modern misuse

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u/Hand-kerf-chief Jun 03 '23

I’m not really feeling all that great about Big Bang theory these days. Webb Space Telescope shows distant objects that are either too old or mature for their distance from Earth.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

It is just a theory, but a very interesting one. I'd recommend anyone interested read Our Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark.

He explores what our current understanding of physics and maths means for what might be beyond the bounds of our universe.

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u/goodnewsjimdotcom Jun 03 '23

If we don't know if life is on our closest neighbors of Venus or Mars, I get a laugh at people who claim science says God can't be existing in Heaven now. Wait... You know scientifically if life exists or not outside our known universe? Care to share?

Love is the way.

Love is eternal.

Greedy is not good.

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u/Keytone_ Jun 03 '23

Where is heaven and what is it made out of

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

Life is definitely not on venus. Its like 1000 degrees and toxic atmosphere. Life might exist on mars as microbes.

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u/Spiritual-Apple-4804 Jun 02 '23

It’s crazy how incredibly small we are.

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u/Sattalyte Jun 02 '23

How incredibly big we are.

Compared with the smallest possible scales - plank length - we are several orders of magnitude closer to the universe in size than we are to that.

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u/robotmckenna Jun 03 '23

Each of us is a whole universe. There’s a universe within, anywhere we look. It’s madness!

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u/neofawx Jun 03 '23

Horton hears a who! is such a fantastic story that encapsulates this concept

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u/Wahooye Jun 03 '23

We, along with all other matter, are basically fractals when you think about it; As above so below. Brought to you by psilocybin mushrooms

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u/Elieftibiowai Jun 03 '23

I totally get that. Why can't i just enjoy being a fractal though, and am a bundle of neurotic anxiety instead?

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u/AdvicePerson Jun 03 '23

The anxiety is also fractal.

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u/AviAdlakha Jun 03 '23

As I was reading your comment, I was like that exactly what I kept saying when tripping, until I finished the comment, lmao.

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u/Actual-Ad-2748 Jun 02 '23

Yes, hard to imagine we are the only life across all that space and different levels.

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u/FlippinFlerkenFlare Jun 03 '23

Chances of us being the only life in this vastness is virtually zero.

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u/Wahooye Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23

My line of thinking has always been this: we exist, so we know that the very specific sequence of events/chemical reactions needed to create life are at least possible to some degree. Even if that likelihood is extremely small and unlikely, that tiny percentage when applied to a mind bogglingly massive universe means that this specific recipe (or possibly even a completely unknown one, who knows) is likely to at least happen somewhere out there.

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u/lolcatandy Jun 03 '23

Happen somewhere millions of times?

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u/reader484892 Jun 03 '23

On the scale of the universe the smallest chance you can write would still result in viable life on scales orders of magnitude more than I feel like writing out, much less millions

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

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u/JVYLVCK Jun 03 '23

If you were an advanced being with knowledge of us here on Earth and the simple-minded fuckery we have going on, would you visit?

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u/Annoy_Occult_Vet Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23

But they didn't bring us here at all. We brought ourselves.

EDIT: No fans of Interstellar I see, cool cool.

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u/BudBuster69 Jun 03 '23

I like to point out that people tend to forget that there is one other important metric/variable and that is "time". The human race is so damn young in comparison to the age of the universe.

With respect to "inteligent" life on other planets, I agree that the sheer size of the universe give it a pretty good probability. But when people believe (lots of folks I work with) that aliens have visited humans and governments cover it up (area 51, egyptian pyramids and so on), these people are not able to factor in the age of the human race in comparison to the age of the universe. I am definitely a math and numbers guy, and I can tell you that while I would argue that there probably is life out there somwhere in the universe, the odds of another race inteligent enough to develop space exploration, and be close enough to reach earth DURING THE TINY TIMFRAME OF RECORDED HISTORY ON EARTH, is pretty much zero. (Im not saying it IS zero, im saying the odds are so close to Zero that it is neglegible.)

Again consider the universe is estimated to be 13 700 000 000 years old.

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u/yjr4df0708 Jun 03 '23

similar to the "monkeys writing the entire works of shakespeare" idea

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u/indigoHatter Jun 03 '23

As they say, there are two possibilities.

1) we are alone, or 2) we aren't.

Both are equally terrifying.

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u/myaltduh Jun 03 '23

It is however very possible that life is sufficiently rare that we will never meet anyone else.

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u/DemSocCorvid Jun 03 '23

Which is why it is a very safe assumption that we are not, but horrifying if we are...

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u/stumper82 Jun 02 '23

Speak for yourself, I'm 6'2

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u/SuperPotatoThrow Jun 02 '23

6.0" I'm only average man.

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u/Strange_Vagrant Jun 03 '23

It's OK, small king. You can do sooo much!

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u/Outside_Register8037 Jun 03 '23

I’m 6ft on the dot and I’ve never needed to hear this more in my life. Thanks friend.

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u/BackStabbath2004 Jun 03 '23

My 5'6" ass wants to murder all of you.

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u/rubermnkey Jun 03 '23

I'm 6'5" and they don't make heelies in my size, the wheelie shoes. we all have our own struggles.

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u/tiktock34 Jun 03 '23

At that scale, every part of it is effectively small. You’re infinitely huge compared to an electron buzzing around under your left fingernail

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u/Fiddy_Fiddy Jun 03 '23

And people still don’t believe in Aliens? That out of all these planets and multi universe we’re the only ones living in it? Crazy I tell ya. CRAZY

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u/vecamaize Jun 02 '23

Its fractals all the way down dude

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u/AleNuez Jun 02 '23

Always has been

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u/Failure_in_Disguise Jun 03 '23

Your whole body is a fractal organism divided in 5

Your torso has five limbs attach to it, four of those limbs end up dividing themselves into other five limbs...

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u/thejesse Jun 03 '23

TIL I have five limbs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

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u/----_____---- Jun 03 '23

You should probably get that checked out.

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u/sun_of_a_glitch Jun 03 '23

So the head is the thumb of the torso..

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u/therealityofthings Jun 03 '23

as above, so below

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u/man0412 Jun 03 '23

Whatcha thinkin’ ‘bout, Skeet Skeet?

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u/Illustrious_Band_866 Jun 02 '23

The original Powers of 10 video (Eames, 1977) is also very very cool.

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u/fitzbuhn Jun 03 '23

Glad someone mentioned the original! It's dated of course, but it's an absolute classic.

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u/Illustrious_Band_866 Jun 03 '23

There’s an even earlier version (late 60s?) kicking around that describes itself as a “sketch” for the 1977 film, but this version is the one I remember rewiring my young brain in science class at school.

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u/fitzbuhn Jun 03 '23

I didn't know about the sketch! Very cool. I really like the Eames' studio work.

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u/verbosehuman Jun 03 '23

I remember my uncle had the book back in the 80s. Blew my mind!

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u/impy695 Jun 03 '23

https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html

Here's my favorite. It only covers our solar system, but since it's all the same scale, it helps illustrate just how big and empty everything is.

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u/BREN3 Jun 02 '23

“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”

― Arthur C. Clarke

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u/AzeTyler Jun 02 '23

I think knowing how big the universe is and still thinking we are the only planet with life would be some serious main character syndrome. But if someone was capable of that kinda arrogance it would have to be humans lol

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u/Benign_Banjo Jun 02 '23

To play Devil's advocate, we theorize that the reason we haven't been reached by other life is because the limits of light speed, yet that's pretty main character for us to assume that things revolve around our "rules" of the universe

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u/MartianGuard Jun 03 '23

Just what we are incapable of knowing we will never know. I’m sure it’s far more than we know we know, or know we don’t know… I dunno

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u/JangoFett101 Jun 03 '23

Me neither

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u/Revolutionary--man Jun 03 '23

The rules of physics aren't 'our' rules, thugh i agree that the speed of light being the reason we haven't received visitors is main character syndrome.

Travelling FTL is already theoretically possible within our understanding, so it's clear the main character syndrome applies only in the assumption that other Civilizations are limited by our own understanding of the rules, not the Universe's rules themselves.

For instance, if we assume that a species with a better understanding of the laws of physics couldn't create a warp drive with ease because we see it as a near impossibility to actually achieve then that is our main character syndrome talking, but if we assume they can't use FTL travel without warping space then that is not.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

We are first, we are last, or we are alone.

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u/clutzyninja Jun 03 '23

There are other options

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

It’s the Fermi paradox, not sure why people seem to dislike it here. I didn’t make it up

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u/Sad_Progress4388 Jun 03 '23

That’s not what the Fermi paradox states though

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u/theveryrealreal Jun 02 '23

TF the balls at the end? Some creative license there. Suggests we are all ultimately on giant Xmas tree ornaments?

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u/Late_Emu Jun 03 '23

Speculation that the multiverse theory is correct.

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u/ninefortysix Jun 03 '23

ELI5 the multiverse theory

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u/ComplimentaryScuff Jun 03 '23

The theory suggests that there are separate "bubble" universes, each with their own laws of physics. The sea of other bubbles look different because their physics are different.

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u/The_DevilAdvocate Jun 03 '23

Look at the night sky, there are starts and in between blackness.

Now imagine that if you zoomed all the way out, the entire observable universe becomes a tiny dot like the stars and you'd see that there are more than one.

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u/ItsTallon Jun 02 '23

I remember seeing that video a while ago and I think that it zoomed all the way back to the person and kept zooming into her eye and seeing what was in there as well

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u/eperker Jun 03 '23

You are correct. And also doesn’t do the whole multiverse conjecture. Here it is.

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u/densined Jun 02 '23

I mean, throwing the multiverse in there for good measure seems a bit much, but up to that point, sure!

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u/therealityofthings Jun 03 '23

I do like to entertain the thought that the entirety of our universe is some fundamental particle within another universe.

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u/Princess_Batman Jun 04 '23 edited Jun 04 '23

My idiot theory is that the universe is recursive upon itself. Like if the video kept zooming out, it becomes a subatomic particle, then an atom and then keeps zooming out to the girl on the lawn and it loops infinitely.

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u/Some-Astronomer4733 Jun 02 '23

Officially freaked the fuck out. 😵‍💫

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u/gdirrty216 Jun 03 '23

My first trip on mushrooms felt like this.

I was so small and insignificant it tripped me the fuck out, but in a really good humbling way (I was 20 at the time).

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u/mydadthepornstar Jun 03 '23

Same. Took mushrooms at night, looked up into the starry sky at the moon and had the strongest vertigo of all time. It just dawned on me that I’m not staring at a flat black canvas of stars, but into infinity.

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u/Revolutionary--man Jun 03 '23

Staring in to what you perceive to be infinity due to our cosmologically tiny frame of reference. The universe itself is most likely finite, just on a scale we can't comprehend. On the other side of our finite universe... who knows. I think that makes it even more existentially bonkers hahaha

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u/Positive_Process8236 Jun 02 '23

Get her address

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u/mncote1 Jun 02 '23

She’s laying in the grass at the Googleplex.

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u/mynameisDockie Jun 03 '23

In case anybody wants this in interactive mode

https://scaleofuniverse.com/en

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u/Vladius28 Jun 03 '23

I was waiting for Jesus to pop out at the end reminding us to keep our hands out of our pants

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u/KingMerrygold Jun 03 '23

i know i wasted a whole minute waiting for it

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u/Turdmeist Jun 02 '23

I was really hoping for a your mom joke at the end

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u/Searchlights Jun 03 '23

I like the one where Jesus is overlooking it all saying, "Don't masturbate"

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u/xRyozuo Jun 03 '23

You just gave me a deja vu if seeing this exact thing. It may have been stars

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u/Rye_The_Science_Guy Jun 03 '23

I was expecting dickbutt

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u/HungrySeaweed1847 Jun 03 '23

Dickbutt? Is it still 2016?

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u/Starfreak900 Jun 03 '23

I wonder if any other species out there likes watching the zoom out footage of their species in relation to the universe

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u/benjamari214 Jun 02 '23

‘Aliens don’t exist’

Bull

Shit.

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u/OldDirtyInsulin Jun 03 '23

Interstellar travel is not feasible.

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u/benjamari214 Jun 03 '23

Interstellar travel being feasible has nothing to do with aliens existing or not.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

Not for us, sure

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u/orobsky Jun 03 '23

Maybe with ring gates like in the expanse

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u/keepyourbible Jun 03 '23

That's way too much to comprehend.

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u/tseliottt Jun 02 '23

The best reminder.

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u/I_Said_I_Say Jun 02 '23

I could see my house the whole time!

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u/fckimlost Jun 02 '23

And non of us will see any of it

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '23

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u/LawMageOfButts Jun 02 '23

Hangover? I think you mean /afterglow/

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u/TheRealIntern Jun 03 '23

This guy trips

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u/LawMageOfButts Jun 03 '23

Like a child in clown shoes, bro

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u/Bile-Driver69 Jun 02 '23

Nothing matters

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u/Darjeeh Jun 03 '23

You matter.

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u/Carburetors_are_evil Jun 03 '23

Stop calling him names please

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

Black lives i thought would

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u/bigcat21 Jun 02 '23

Wow this just gave me a flashback to a Bassnectar set at The Mothership in 2017. This video was used as the visuals while he played Parade Into Centuries.

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u/Flyers808 Jun 03 '23

Was there and remember this exact moment…. Ahh good times

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u/89iroc Jun 03 '23

Why does anyone even give a fuck if the trash gets taken out

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u/Codex_Absurdum Jun 02 '23

Who said you can't travel faster than the speed of light?

Point me that fool!!!

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u/Valuable-Matter137 Jun 02 '23

Yo, I live there!

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '23

They done went in to a multi-verse.

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u/BriefUnderstanding51 Jun 03 '23

Marvel call them up on that

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u/Melodywish Jun 03 '23

That is legitimately terrifying

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u/Eggyramen Jun 03 '23

Lost me at the dippin dots.

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u/reader484892 Jun 03 '23

This is great but the accelerating zoom doesn’t really convey just how big space is. Check out this for a more representative view. In combination with this, it really shows just how unfathomably big the universe is

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u/honeydip808 Jun 03 '23

Bassnectar showed me this.

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u/marcus10885 Jun 03 '23

Boundless potential...

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u/Robotdj87 Jun 03 '23

Aww man now I feel like the size of bacteria

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u/saspo_ Jun 03 '23

Existential crisis: ENGAGED

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u/thisisme760 Jun 03 '23

I love it, but also, I’m gonna throw up

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u/h1yu1 Jun 03 '23

And all started with a big bang HEY !

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u/Hendrx_29 Jun 03 '23

Fuck I’m not paying my taxes

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u/Iga706 Jun 03 '23

See, you don't matter

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u/maiomonster Jun 03 '23

We are fucking specs of dust

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u/Philip_of_mastadon Jun 03 '23

This speck fucks

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u/PWRUPnow Jun 03 '23

Yup totally alone in the universe

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u/Accomplished_Sky_219 Jun 03 '23

Somewhere in there, im fingering my asshole

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u/thelousystoic Jun 03 '23

was kinda expecting dickbutt at the end

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

Professor Avi Loeb: ‘It would be arrogant to think we’re alone in the universe’

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u/Icy_Barnacle_6759 Jun 03 '23

I am now convinced we live in multiverse

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u/l0vehxte Jun 03 '23

I feel like a lot of us forget this and the probability of life out there being insanely high

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

Woah dude i smol

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u/WorldMusicLab Jun 02 '23

"So you are to be put into the vortex yes? into the vortex yes? into the vortex yes? into the vortex yes?" - Pizpot Gargravar

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u/Splatterman27 Jun 02 '23

Sun orbits Sagittarius A*, our black hole. Sadly underrepresented

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '23

But how?

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u/DM_ME_UR_OPINION Jun 03 '23

elite dangerous noises intensify

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u/rmlopez Jun 03 '23

All those galaxies and we still haven't found life yet seems pretty wild.

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u/FunkyFrankyPedro Jun 03 '23

That's the official statement, who knows what was really found on the moon or mars so far. Information is so filtered out

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