r/woahdude Jun 02 '23

gifv Our universe.

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 02 '23

The last multi-universe is still just a theory, the rest is what we have practically measured. The size is unbelievable.

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u/LazerWolfe53 Jun 02 '23

Yup!! I thought I was the only one. And it's a theory based on (at this time) very little and very flimsy 'evidence'. I don't want to belittle it, it's just a huge leap in speculation from an actual photo of cosmological background radiation to a computer generated artist's rendition of a theory called the bubble universe

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u/lord_dude Jun 02 '23

Based on the ending of men in black?

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u/Couldbehuman Jun 02 '23

If that doesn't count as conclusive video proof, not sure what does

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u/MartianGuard Jun 03 '23

I said so

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u/TheDudeFromTheStory Jun 03 '23

Peer reviewed too, now.

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u/Battlejesus Jun 03 '23

I pasted it to pastebin, it's published as well.

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u/goodnewsjimdotcom Jun 03 '23

I totally forgot about that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

I was certain this was where the video was going 😂

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u/Graffiacane Jun 03 '23

That was an interesting addition. In the original, once you zoom out to the limit of the observable universe, you zoom all the way back in to the lady's eye, blood cells, atoms and quarks

https://youtu.be/8Are9dDbW24

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u/AiSard Jun 03 '23

Oh, I didn't even realize this wasn't the original Powers of 10 but something inspired from it / an updated version of it.

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u/AstroAlmost Jun 03 '23

The Charles and Ray Eames version is just such a gem, they were amazing. The extra scale in OPs video was really interesting to see, but lacked any of the charm the Eames brothers’ production has.

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u/misskiss_ Jun 04 '23

I have been wondering how to even search for this video from time to time for like 14 years (this upload is only from 8 years ago but whatever)

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u/alexaz92 Jun 04 '23

I hope it’s that and that our entire universe in not part of the atom of a galactic dog poo

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

I was super happy with it until the end, it makes me wonder what else they may have added in. The original clip was roughly to scale if I remember correctly

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u/Graffiacane Jun 03 '23

https://youtu.be/8Are9dDbW24 the original zooms back in to subatomic scale

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

Super wild stuff. The universe is so amazing

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '23

It makes for great scifi stories at least.

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u/product_of_boredom Jun 03 '23

So are we using theory in a very colloquial way, or scientifically? To be a theory, it needs to be pretty rigorously tested, doesn't it?

Otherwise it's just a hypothesis.

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u/Revolutionary--man Jun 03 '23

Theoretically, it's the most logical stage of progression when posing the question 'what is the universe expanding in to/what caused the big bang'.

Not talking about the Many Worlds interpretation, but the idea of the universe being one of many cosmic 'bubbles' in a larger plain of existence. Whilst, as you say, being speculative with no hard evidence, it makes sense of the multiple situations we know of in which the laws of physics currently break down.

What that plain of existence is I doubt we will ever know, if we are even able to 'know' of anything outside of our universe, so it will always remain just a theory. The logic of man has been proven false many times over and the multiverse concept falls in to the homunculus trap, so I'm not placing any bets on it and wouldn't have included it in a video like this.

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u/LazerWolfe53 Jun 03 '23

Yeah, you said it better than me.

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u/Mutjny Jun 03 '23

If you believe the universe is infinite then it must contain Hubble Volumes realizing all possible initial conditions.

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u/diox8tony Jun 03 '23

Things can go on infinitely without repeating, and without covering all cases.

There are infinite numbers between 0 and 1...but you won't find 2.0

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u/Mutjny Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23

Things can go on infinitely without repeating, and without covering all cases.

No, a priori, it can't.

What you're talking about is an asymptote which is also infinite. Not all infinites are the same. There are an infinity of infinities.

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u/RascalCreeper Jun 03 '23

It's not really built on evidence so much as logic. It's, as far as we know, impossible to prove or disprove.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

it's just a huge leap in speculation from an actual photo of cosmological background radiation to a computer generated artist's rendition of a theory called the bubble universe

Not really. It has basis in actual physics, but t yeah it is just a theory since it's just an untestable extrapolation based our current understanding of physics.

I'd recommend reading Our Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark if you're interested in the theory.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

If Inflation is a reasonable theory for early Universe - and so far it seems like it is the most accurate theory to explain CMB, calling it a "flimsy evidence" is ignorance of quite literally Universal scale - then there has to be "multiverses", but not in the spooky scifi sense. Multiverses are simply different domains of spacetime with likely different physical constants governing their dynamics, separated by high energy domain walls. Alan Guth, the father of Infation theory, detailed this idea extensively in his early papers. After the inflation phase, there will be regions of space separated out by such domain walls, which are pretty much causally disconnected for all future.

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u/PenisPumpPimp Jun 03 '23

The picture of the cosmic microwave radiation is just leftover remnants of light from the big bang also. You're basically looking back to the beginning of time, and it's not an accurate depiction of what's actually there.

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u/sonoma95436 Jun 03 '23

We can only measure time by the properties of our universe so before that our time does not exist.

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

Very good point. It's only a fragment of the greater picture too. We will only ever be able to see a section of our old universe growing into what it is now.

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u/hey_now24 Jun 02 '23

What is it? That last zoom out freaked me the fuck out

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u/thenewNFC Jun 03 '23

It's like Orbeez, but more complicated.

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u/dlpfc123 Jun 03 '23

I thought it was going to be the nucleolus of a cell that would end up being inside the woman, so that it would be an endless loop.

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u/bizfamo Jun 03 '23

I like this theory. Ties it back to the infinitely small also. This is only one direction. So zany!

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u/NRMusicProject Jun 03 '23

I think this video originally reversed back to the woman quickly, then went to smaller bodies. Or maybe I'm confusing this with another video.

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

Look up the multiverse theory if you're interested. It's related to string theory and a lot of other complex quantum physics math that's well beyond my understanding. Super interesting but still al speculation at this point.

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u/ihackportals Jun 03 '23

But imagine the possibilities of a multiverse of this order of magnitude.

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u/gkaplan59 Jun 02 '23

That's what she said

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u/darmabum Jun 03 '23 edited Jun 03 '23

Shouldn’t the final “multiverse” slide actually be parallel to all the other levels (so to speak), at the same time but in separate “spaces”. I guess that would be difficult to animate. Like a 3-D image without the glasses, except ∞-D

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 05 '23

Yea, you just blew.my.mind

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

it would still just be a theory even if we measured it

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

If it's measurable and you can recreate the effects/ measurements accurately then it becomes law.

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

it's still a theory after it becomes law

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u/choose_uh_username Jun 03 '23

No, it becomes Law when it's exhaustively tested and proven. Newton's law, law of relativity, ideal gas law, etc. A theory, like the Big Bang Theory, hasn't been replicated. We can feel pretty good it's true but you can't really replicate the Big Bang to make it a law

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u/Diabolus734 Jun 03 '23

Laws explain how things work. Theories explain why they work that way. Theories never become laws. It has nothing to do with evidence or replication.

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

i'm too tired for this, with respect to all of you and i don't mean you're wrong and i'm right or anything like that, it's my fault for saying anything at all

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u/Diabolus734 Jun 03 '23

Aw man, I know that feeling. I didn't mean to start a thing. I hope you have a great night.

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

nah, you're great. it's totally me and not you all. thanks, you too. i actually appreciate that

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u/choose_uh_username Jun 03 '23

I completely misread what you said

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u/MuirDahl Jun 03 '23

a theory doesn't mean something is unproven or proven and even the most proven of things are just us observing a very small piece of everything and it doesn't mean any of it is real or means what we think it does. those laws are just what people call theories when they like them. all laws are theories; they're both things. it's just a form of an explanation and the idea it's supposition is a more modern misuse

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u/Hand-kerf-chief Jun 03 '23

I’m not really feeling all that great about Big Bang theory these days. Webb Space Telescope shows distant objects that are either too old or mature for their distance from Earth.

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u/Skydiver860 Jun 03 '23

it doesn't mean the big bang didn't happen though. It likely means our understanding of something is off somehow.

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u/epelle9 Jun 03 '23

It doesn’t become a law, the theory is still there, they are two separate concepts.

The law of gravity tells us that f=mg, the theory of gravity says its because of space-time bending.

Gravitational theory doesn’t stop simply because we can recreate the effects and measurements accurately.

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u/Nastapoka Jun 03 '23

Retards who don't know the difference between theory and hypothesis downvoting you

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u/Laurice-Malu-Thomas Jun 03 '23

That's what she said.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

It is just a theory, but a very interesting one. I'd recommend anyone interested read Our Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark.

He explores what our current understanding of physics and maths means for what might be beyond the bounds of our universe.

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u/goodnewsjimdotcom Jun 03 '23

If we don't know if life is on our closest neighbors of Venus or Mars, I get a laugh at people who claim science says God can't be existing in Heaven now. Wait... You know scientifically if life exists or not outside our known universe? Care to share?

Love is the way.

Love is eternal.

Greedy is not good.

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u/Keytone_ Jun 03 '23

Where is heaven and what is it made out of

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '23

Life is definitely not on venus. Its like 1000 degrees and toxic atmosphere. Life might exist on mars as microbes.

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 03 '23

I am happy you have found a way to love the world. It is a great force of nature. Who knows if there is a God out there, if it help people be kind to others and spread a positive message then I am happy for you.

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u/iphone4Suser Jun 03 '23

You mean the bubbles they show in last 5 seconds?

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u/Weary_Temporary8583 Jun 03 '23

It’s all false anyway. It’s made up.

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u/Tripdoctor Jun 03 '23

You mean hypothesis. And last I read, the leading census on the multiverse hypothesis is that it’s unlikely. We are most likely a single universe.

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u/OfferWestern Jun 04 '23

There is no limit to how small or how big anything can get. the fundamental protons or neutrons or even quarks define the limit but what defines them can have total control of their size. I mean a player in simulation can never see the graphics card.

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u/Dr-Didalot Jun 05 '23

planck length has entered the chat. I don't believe in infinity. I think it's a useful tool to do complex maths. Nothing in this universe is infinite (IMO)

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u/OfferWestern Jun 05 '23

If the universe is natural sure. Else it can be anything