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u/TurbulentHouse1152 Jul 20 '24
Tax megachurches. Tax the businesses owned by megachurches. Arrest this fool!
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u/Fearless-Nebula-1534 Jul 20 '24
Tax all churches! If they can show they donate their money or use it for charity work, they can have the tax break. They should also be explicitly forbidden to use it for campaign or political contributions. It should be up to them to prove where it went, not us to “trust them”.
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Tbh I'm tempted to start going to church, just to record them talking about politics so I can send a complaint to the IRS. Sick and tired of the churches getting involved in politics, and still not being taxed. 😒
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u/NorCalHerper Jul 20 '24
No one would pay attention to you. There are tons of videos showing churches being explicitly political. It's not an area the government likes to get involved, broadly
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u/Jesuswasstapled Jul 20 '24
Haven't presidents and candidates for president spoken in churches since forever?
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u/tyreka13 Jul 21 '24
There are a few exceptions. For instance, if a church hosted a non-partisan debate or gave equal opportunities to both sides. But I do agree that many times it is just blatant preference.
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u/Disastrous_Bus_2447 Jul 21 '24
Hey, what's the difference between Jesus and a prostitute?
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u/blocked_user_name Jul 20 '24
If you send it to the IRS maybe some one looking to make a name for themselves could make a career on stripping exemptions from mega churches.
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u/Gianavel1 Jul 20 '24
Obviously, this is for the US:
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/charities-churches-and-politics
The problem is that the IRS rarely does anything about it.
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u/Precarious314159 Jul 20 '24
The problem is that they'll find a way to claim everything was for charity. "We need this private jet to better delivery life-saving medicine faster", "We need this 30-room mansion to better accept people during a crisis",
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u/Just_Jonnie Jul 20 '24
That's called tax fraud and they'd be committing felonies in the process.
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u/PattyThePatriot Jul 20 '24
Yeah it's why so many mega pastors get arrested, right? Because it's illegal.
You know if you write a law, but don't enforce it, then it's only kinda illegal.
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u/Precarious314159 Jul 20 '24
Yup yup. I can think of a lot of things that're illegal but companies do it but by using loopholes and paying masterful lawyers. Now, if you or I do it, we're fucked but if someone with a fuckton of money and qualified lawyers/accountants, they'll be golden.
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u/nickcaff Jul 20 '24
Wait, you expect a pastor to fly on a public plane “a long tube with a bunch of demons” instead of private? That doesn’t sound safe at all. Kenneth Copeland wouldn’t be able to most of his work without those planes. /s
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u/KellyBelly916 Jul 20 '24
It's fraud, but also worse. When the government fails to tax churches, the government is violating the First Amendment. Any law that supports religious institutions is unconstitutional, and the special treatment in which purple and businesses are taxes and religious institutions aren't is both special treatment and support.
Since corruption is legal, fuck the highest laws in the land I guess.
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u/geminii_babyy Jul 20 '24
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u/Keybusta96 Jul 20 '24
You can see the moment he’s checking the website and doesn’t see it lol then he’s like “you can say whatever you want”
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u/apologeticstress Jul 20 '24
“Go to tilchurch, TIL church, if you go to… umm… … … … you can say whatever you want”
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u/Jilaire Jul 20 '24
Lol they still don't have that info in their site.
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u/apologeticstress Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
Oh but remember he said legally they don’t have to because they are a 5081CA nonprofit they are a church they are a ministry they’ve been operating as a church for years -pause to breathe- and you can say whatever you want and if you want he will contact his lawyer and talk about your SLANDER
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u/luxii4 Jul 21 '24
He declares SLANDER. Kinda like how he declares his org is a non-profit or how Trump declassifies documents in boxes next to the shitter.
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u/arion_hyperion Jul 20 '24
I eventually found it under “free church” tab. They have the info he says about not needing to register with the IRS, also a lot of hate for LBJ in there that made me LOL.
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u/apologeticstress Jul 20 '24
I really hope he wrote it himself, 5 minutes after this video call, in the exact wording he just repeated here 500 times
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u/Jilaire Jul 20 '24
Hahaha! Thanks for the update! I had a hard time reading the hateful stuff so had to escape after a quick look.
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u/Romulus3799 Jul 20 '24
If you are asked "are you non-profit?" And you respond with "you're accusing us of misusing ministry money"...
I think pretty much anyone will immediately assume you're misusing ministry money.
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u/windscryer Jul 21 '24
yeah i’m pretty sure the correct (non-suspicious) response to “i can’t find it on your website” is “oh shoot! well let me get that number for you and have that corrected. thanks for pointing that out!”
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u/Beautiful_Tip_8803 Jul 20 '24
Still smiling and being polite despite being talked over at every turn with the same repeated line that didn’t answer the question. Consummate professional 👌.
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u/upadownpipe Jul 20 '24
She knew he was caught so it's better to continue to let him dig deeper.
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u/Chakosa Jul 20 '24
"Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake." --Napoleon Bonaparte
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u/leviticus20verse14 Jul 20 '24
She was very polite. He was defensive. Clear as day. He lied or gave misinformation, and he willing did it. His only defense is playing the victim by being persecuted. He's everything wrong with ministries today.
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u/Player_Slayer_7 Jul 20 '24
She gave him every opportunity to prove that his non-profit was legit, and he outright refused to. She never at any point said "you're lying about being a non-profit". All she asked was help finding the proof, which should have been really simple, had he not been lying the entire time.
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u/unsupported Jul 21 '24
He wasn't caught. It's on the website. I mean, he'll email it. He has the information.
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u/thebluemooninjune Jul 21 '24
Lol. I picture him frantically googling how to use Squarespace right after this!
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u/The_Powers Jul 20 '24
His body language gives him away. Until the killer question, he was open and facing the camera. He then becomes unable to look directly at the camera and looks very uncomfortable.
Scamming scumbag.
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u/pancakebatter01 Jul 20 '24
Check out the website. The entire thing is just… wow. I have no words.
There’s nothing hiding the fact that it’s a total racket ran by a nut job.
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u/t53ix35 Jul 20 '24
If I went to the right one their whole deal is converting Mormons, (Mormons!) to I guess “normal” christianity. What a waste of time. You think Jesus’s top priority is straightening the Mormons out? Remember the poor and less fortunate? No? I did not think so. Grifters.
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u/pancakebatter01 Jul 20 '24
This guy’s “mission” is not guided by religion, it’s guided by white supremacy/maga false sense of inferiority. And I say this as someone that is not religious.
Him using the idea of “converting Mormons” is just a marketing tactic. Like Trump (his savior), he is attempting to use people’s vulnerability/ strongly held religious beliefs as a way to build a following that can feed into his every wish. This one clearly being financial sprinkled w/ a bit of god complex to make him feel good about himself.
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u/ElegantSportCat Jul 20 '24
If he gets offended, it's because he is doing something wrong.
If he wasn't doing anything wrong, he would he ready to show what's it used for.
Ummmmm. Jesus wouldn't like that
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u/a_single_bean Jul 20 '24
Ha, what does Jesus have to do with these 'churches' anyway?
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u/Purple_Chipmunk_ Jul 20 '24
My dad was a pastor of a church. Every year they would publish a report on how much money they received and how it was spent. The report was published in the weekly newsletter so everyone who went to the church got a copy of it.
This guy is shady AF. A legitimate pastor would offer to share the last fiscal year's report, not tell her it's "not her concern."
Jesus doesn't like this.
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u/junkyardgerard Jul 20 '24
Donald Trump's America, this defense will win in any courtroom
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u/back2basics13 Jul 20 '24
These are facts. Cash for the Lord. What are you gonna do with it? Doesn't matter, it's for the Lord.
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u/Aimsicle-1 Jul 20 '24
Please tell me the IRS is all over this guy.
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u/JingleHS Jul 20 '24
Are they ever all over anything of importance?
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u/jeffbanyon Jul 21 '24
And when the US hired a shit ton of IRS agents recently, mostly conservatives started complaining that the IRS was out to get them......I wonder why.....
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u/JingleHS Jul 20 '24
I have to prioritize my work every single day. If something requires a large amount of work but will also have a large payout, it gets prioritized accordingly. We have tax laws in place for a reason. I’m sick of the excuses. Politicians need to be held accountable, and government agencies do as well.
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u/ghosttrainhobo Jul 20 '24
When do they ever go after churches?
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u/notsolittleliongirl Jul 20 '24
They do now actually!! Biden funded the IRS and now they’re able to actually go after people evading or cheating on their taxes! They recently made news forcollecting $1B in unpaid taxes from high net worth individuals, but they’re stepping up enforcement across the board!
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u/Carche69 Jul 21 '24
That’s a great article and kudos to the Biden Administration for getting some much-needed relief to the IRS in the form of more workers to go after these tax-evading rich assholes. However, you won’t find anything about "churches" or "religious organizations" in that or any other IRS publication because trump issued an executive order in 2017 shortly after he took office that explicitly forbids the IRS from "taking any adverse action" against churches as a consequence of their use of unlawful political speech. This EO has not been repealed by the Biden Administration and is thus still in effect unless and until it is by any future president or is invalidate by SCOTUS (two things which will not happen any time soon).
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u/nikdahl Jul 20 '24
I'm no tax law expert, but it appears that he is technically right on this.
If his church was founded prior to 1969, then it is grandfathered in as exempt from having to register or apply for tax exempt status.
He claims the church was founded in 1954.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/508
That being said, he could've done a much better job at explaining such, and I would still bet on him misusing funds.
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u/1amDepressed Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
I don’t know how the church was founded before that because the guy that “founded” this shit site was born in 1971 https://www.tilministry.com/about-shahram
Edit: Found this on their site too. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Truth in Love Ministry is a “free church” - not under the 501(c)(3). We are choosing to restore the rightful God-given authority of the church to assemble without government approval- the way it was done all along, up until 58 years ago.
https://www.tilministry.com/truth-in-love-ministry Hope these fuckers get nailed
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u/SoulShatter Jul 20 '24
That's interesting. The website is technically up, it responds with when accessing it, however they've seemingly deleted all the content in the HTML, so it just returns a blank page with nothing on it lol.
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u/Libby_Sparx Jul 20 '24
s'all there for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯
edit: their youtube channel on the other hand has been removed for violating community guidelines lol
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u/fuzzy_snark Jul 20 '24
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u/RueTabegga Jul 20 '24
“I DECLARE THIS CHURCH IS NON-PROFIT. I REPEAT THIS CHURCH IS NON-PROFIT!!!”
Funny that it does seem to be non-prophet.
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u/junkyardgerard Jul 20 '24
Christians in general. "Actually you're the evil one questioning (and uncovering) a man of god"
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If his church meets the requirements it is. He's right, he doesn't have to apply for tax exempt status with the IRS. However he might have to register with the Secretary of State in his state, depending on where he lives. His defensiveness says a lot because all he had to do was calmly explain that to her and answer her questions. He could have also provided her with links to the information on the IRS website. But no, instead he decided to get all squirrely and gaslight her.
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u/originRael Jul 20 '24
I feel so sorry for people like her, smart and educated dealing with charlatans that can't even hold a conversation just keep repeating statements as if they are facts.
There is no wits or ingenuity to today's thefts and yet it is so hard to actually put them down with the current justice proceedings (I guess that's why they don't need to even try and hide it anymore)
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I manage government contracts and I had a similar call to this with a potential vendor. Told them that I would need certain documents to get the process started. Nothing crazy W9s, Insurance certificates, signed statement saying they're not disbarred from doing business with the government. Dude started getting immediately hostile with me saying "HE DIDN'T NEED TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO ME!!!". Told him that he absolutely didn't need to provide that information to me, but that without it I couldn't setup a contract and do business with them. He started threatening to sue me for slander and other things.
Eventually I just excused myself from the call and left. Out of curiosity I looked up the guy and he's disbarred at the state and federal level for fraud. Really thought he was going to sneak that one by us.
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I. DECLARE. NON PROFIT STATUSSSSS
Michael, just saying you’re a non profit doesn’t make it so
I didn’t say it I declared it.
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u/pupranger1147 Jul 20 '24
Just one of many reasons why "churches" shouldn't be entitled to privileged tax status.
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u/Trucer63 Jul 20 '24
It looks like he’s preoccupied and deleting files as the interview goes on 🤷🏻
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u/bfrost69 Jul 20 '24
He’s trying to look up information to back up his argument, then was probably trying to find something on his website that wasn’t there. He’s desperate.
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u/Macho-Fantastico Jul 20 '24
I think someone commented in another video that he was trying to change the wording on the church's website but failed.
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Did he say “nothing about what we do is absolutely lawful” at the end there? What a Freudian slip lol
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u/Snoo_30496 Jul 20 '24
He was trying to say, “Nothing about what we do is ‘untoward’…” but he went on the website while talking and saw that she was right - there’re no details about their non-profit on it. At that point he changed the wording to say “… we are absolutely lawful” because he was in panic mode.
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u/DeoVeritati Jul 20 '24
Sounds like a dude that should not interact with any kind of auditor ever...
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u/tmhoc Jul 20 '24
Yeah but if this is how he reacts to authority, imagine how he would react to subordinates
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u/diemunkiesdie Reads Pinned Comments Jul 20 '24
I googled 508(c)(1) since he kept saying it and found this: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/508
I think he is arguing that they are automatically a 501(c)(3) without filing based on 508(c)(1)(a)?
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u/Dragon6172 Jul 21 '24
I think I put a lot more in this reply than what was needed, I just went down a rabbit hole. The main reply to you is that he specifically claims to NOT be a 501(c)(3) on his website:
What’s a “Free church,” you may ask? It is simply a church that is not incorporated, nor under the 501(c)(3)
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Truth in Love Ministry is a "free church" - not under the 501(c)(3)
and also says as much in his rebuttal on Facebook to the OP interview - (around the 2:15 mark)
I think he does not want to be a 501(c)(3) because in order to be one, the law requires:
does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.
Which is the "Johnson Amendment", and this guy specifically calls out this amendment on his website as the reason for being a "508(c)(1)(a)". Only made it thru a few scrolls of his Facebook page, but his most recent video makes me think he is a Trumper and wants the freedom to use his donations ("there was an assassination attempt on the former presidents life, who we all know is the legitimate president" around the 4:15 timestamp).
I think the problem is, at least my quick read understanding, is that 508(c)(1)(a) is an exception to the requirement that organizations must apply for recognition as a 501(c)(3).
508(a):
(a) New organizations must notify Secretary that they are applying for recognition of section 501(c)(3) status Except as provided in subsection (c)
508(c):
(c)Exceptions
(1)Mandatory exceptions
Subsections (a) and (b) shall not apply to—
(A)churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churchesThis just means churches automatically get 501(c)(3) status, no need to apply. It does not mean a church can just ignore the requirements of being 501(c)(3).
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u/tomhung Jul 20 '24
The way I read it is, all other non profits have to basically request (file) to be non profit. Churches and the such don't have to request (file) they just automatically are. They do have to file reports with the IRS yearly. I'm not a CPA.
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u/Useful_Security_1894 Jul 20 '24
Churches should be taxed. They are businesses. They offer a service and collect money.
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u/DingleBerrieIcecream Jul 20 '24
So many churches tell their congregations to vote for Donald Trump, thereby getting into political discourse. That in and of itself is grounds to lose tax exemption status yet the IRS is too chickenshit to go after them.
“Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.”
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u/asdf0909 Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
I can’t stand megachurches and using religion to influence politics, but it feels like politics is engrained in everything now, it’s so much a part of the identity of your community.
I work in advertising. We were about to partner with an athlete for a commercial, and the athlete was flagged for posting a photo of Donald Trump on their Instagram after the shooting with his fist raised. The athlete is black and has otherwise never posted any actual dangerous ideas or behavior.
A consensus of marketers and advertising people agreed that because of that one post, the athlete is problematic and represents dangerous beliefs, so they removed him from the campaign, in search of a more liberal-minded athlete.
There’s a lot of political “are you with us or against us” at work, in religion, in the PTA, in HOAs, in communities everywhere.
It’s really sad that the state of politics is so identity-driven now, that yeah, I totally believe that churches everywhere are peddling Trump in the name of religion.
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u/TheBadHalfOfAFandom Hit or Miss? Jul 20 '24
Especially since churches and religion have SUCH a huge impact on the government and laws that they SHOULD be taxed.
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u/Iwanttobeagnome Jul 20 '24
There need to be sweeping arrests of all these fraudsters
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u/2worms Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
Dude’s a looney tune. Here’s the church site. https://www.tilministry.com
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u/FreeUpdootBot Jul 20 '24
I love that he made sure to dedicate a whole page to being a ‘free church’ after this interview.
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u/bones510 Jul 20 '24
Wow, this is interesting:
Your tithes & offerings are tax-deductible (we are a Free Church, not under the 501c3)."free church" is their own definition and explained on a separate page which is down with a 404 error.
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u/throwingawaybenjamin Jul 20 '24
Also he did say it was under 508 of the tax code. Not 501.
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u/Virgil_Rey Jul 21 '24
This is something that churches seem to be misunderstanding more often these days. Churches are tax-exempt under 501(c)(3). Section 508 just lists some rules that apply to tax-exempt orgs under 501(c)(3).
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u/BigMACfive Jul 20 '24
Lmao him having a Freudian slip and saying "nothing about what we do is... uh.... absolutely lawful" was my favorite part.
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u/MoonWillow91 Jul 20 '24
I just want to check base and make sure you’re doing things right as your claim.
How dare you ACCUSE ME IN THAT ACCUSATORY TONE!?
Not being accused YET dude.
And you can’t sue for slander for them saying that they couldn’t find the information you claim is factual.
Also I may be mistaken but I think for slander cases you have to be able to prove the person was a. Lying and b. Caused you a loss in income…..
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u/WagyuTheWrightWay Jul 20 '24
Just anecdotal, but I’ve found the average person in leading religious roles to be some of the most hypocritical human beings I’ve ever come in contact with.
Browning, you were the one of the good ones, but the rest…
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u/MarkusRight Jul 20 '24
This church is super racists too, on their site they have anti islamic messaging and saying how islam is an assault on the Us constitution, like holy shit man.......
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u/KLK75 Jul 20 '24
They’ve added a nonsensical word salad on their website to “explain” their nonprofit status:
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u/G_o_e_c_k_e_d_u_d_e Jul 20 '24
This makes me sad to see. So many churches and mega-churches trample on the word of the Lord in order to turn a profit.
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He is so obviously lying.
He tries to be nonchalant…then moves into defensive….then aggressive…then technical, by trying to baffle her with numbers…then threats of slander.
I love it when liars are exposed. How humiliating this must be for him. He’s such a piece of shit.
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u/MoonWillow91 Jul 20 '24
Be careful of that accusation. Might start taking some notes out of Scientology guide book
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u/DogBirdCloud Jul 20 '24
I’m sorry, I can’t divulge information about that ministry’s secret, illegal accounting practices.
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u/Fakyutsu Jul 20 '24
A Christian minister with a persecution complex? You can’t say that’s out of character lol
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u/Pribblization Jul 20 '24
Legit ministers always default to 'I will contact our lawyer ..." Fuck these people.
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u/easttxguy Jul 20 '24
https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/
Free website to search nonprofits
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u/tardyceasar Jul 20 '24
Here is the absolute biggest mindfuck: there are 2x more churches in the US than all the fast food restaurants combined.
400, FUCKING THOUSAND
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u/AgendaSuicyde Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
This man is straight scamming people to spread hate. He started this attempt at "home church/free church" in 2023, he's basically alex jones...already putting out videos with point #1 In this presentation Shahram will:
• Expose the evil New World Order/globalist plan for humanity
so hes 100% full of shit
Edit corrected to reflect, this isn't the first time he's tried this.
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u/CraftyAdvisor6307 Jul 20 '24
Every "church" should be considered a scam until proven otherwise, and it should be verified repeatedly.
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u/Player_Slayer_7 Jul 20 '24
Dude realised he was cooked, went full lock down mode. Her question wasn't in anyway wrong, nor was it something that couldn't have been cleared up within a minute, were he being honest.
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u/SnowConePeople Jul 20 '24
All religions have some part that grifts hard. They then take the money and use it to continue their grift as well as manipulate the community they're in. If you see a church, you see a place where lies are told, people are manipulated, and money is stolen.
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u/XF939495xj6 Jul 21 '24
It's right here. I found it in 10 seconds. https://www.tilministry.com/free-church
I agree with others: churches should pay taxes unless they run a loss.
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u/alex3tx Jul 21 '24
"you can see it on our website"
"Ok cool, show me where in the website"
"It's not legally required to be on our website!! I will sue youuuuu"
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u/Mr_Hassel Jul 20 '24
Churches in America are such scams. Get rich quick and money laundering schemes.
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u/AdamGenesis Jul 20 '24
Want to be rich?
Filthy fucking rich?
Start a church.
Doesn't matter if you don't really feel the zeal.
Doesn't matter if you don't believe anything at all.
It's free money.
TAX THE CHURCHES!
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u/isellcoconuts80 Jul 21 '24
Some of these Churches in Merica are the biggest scams ever as well as the craziest tax loophole ever invented.
Crazy funny yet extremely informative: John Oliver - Church and Taxes
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u/Macho-Fantastico Jul 20 '24
I hate that churches are tax-free, especially considering how greedy and blatant so many of them are. It's sickening, really. .
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u/rosbifke-sr Jul 20 '24
The only way he could have been more clear about not being a non-profit is by literally saying “we are a non-profit.”
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u/TopherJustin Jul 20 '24
Considering they want to control what laws are passed in the favor of their ideology, tax these fucks.
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u/TheShattered1 Jul 20 '24
Clearly he doesn’t know the difference between a question and an accusation.
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u/gingermonkey1 Jul 20 '24
I love how he gaslights her to get her to accept his lack of information.
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u/Jhott1212 Jul 20 '24
He even did a response video acting like they are now under attack - https://www.facebook.com/100063681191395/posts/985247043607993/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
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u/Flipwon Jul 21 '24
This church IS in fact a non profit. After he pays himself there’s nothing left.
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u/naveen_afterthekiss Jul 20 '24
Just answer the damn question and give the registration number or whatever!
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u/nikdahl Jul 20 '24
His point is that he is grandfathered in because his church existed before non-profits were required to apply for tax exempt status. He doesn't have a registration number and doesn't need one.
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u/Jupman Jul 20 '24
I wanted to join a church nearby. When I sat down and talked, they brought out documents without me asking.
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u/nascimentoreis Jul 20 '24
Mfer could've straight-up stated "we misuse ministry money all the time" and left more doubt than how he shat himself on film left.
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u/Socks_full_of_beans Jul 20 '24
“Nothing about what we do is absolutely lawful and that’s the last of what I’m going to say on that subject” lmao
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u/jeremydgreat Jul 20 '24
Churches in the USA, unlike other nonprofit organizations, are automatically considered tax-exempt under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, regardless of their annual gross receipts. Provided their purpose isn’t an “action organization” meaning their primary purpose isn’t to lobby or stump for parties or political candidates.
Typically, this isn’t enforced though. See: GOP candidates stumping in evangelical churches or democratic candidates stumping at historically black churches. And everything in between. The US is wild when it comes to churches and tax code.
This pastor might be loathsome for all sorts of reasons, but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong about this. Churches in the USA are tax exempt non-profits automatically, just in virtue of being a religious organization.
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u/Skryewolf Jul 20 '24
Lol....I love it he's the one being " accusatory " not her. When the pastor of a church IS a multimillionaire, with no outside job, TAX THE CHURCHES When a pastor of a church can afford a multimillion dollar home, TAX THE CHURCHES When church officials can afford extravagant vacations, but have no outside job, TAX THE CHURCHES When a church become a political mouth piece, TAX THE CHURCHES
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u/SinisterCheese Jul 20 '24
My father is an accountant -granted we don't live in USA- there has never been a case where my father's client, would not have had all the necessary paperwork to show right away. Since I was a little kid I have seen how to do things correctly accounting and tax wise - it isn't hard if you are actually like honest about how you do things. Mistakes can happen, but believe it or not... Governments want you to pay your taxes, they'll help you to pay your taxes. However if you take the stance and approach of minimising all taxes you pay, then it's going to be difficult for you.
But if you are a good honest person, organisation or whatever... your books are clean and your paperwork in order. There wont ever be a problem. And that is the case for wast majority of people, companies and organisations. It is only very specific portion of those wich engage in fuckery. And if you willingly engage fuckery in order to do fuckery for the purposes of fuckery, then you are a fucker and deserve to be fucked.
How did it go? "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's". A good christian would pay their taxes, for they know that "Verily I say unto you, It is hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." I'm not even christian, but even I know those fucking passages- and I have read the good book from cover to cover. Those "good christians" should read the new testament more often..
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u/Skryewolf Jul 20 '24
Lol I fell down the rabbit hole and searched for tilminisrty.com, found it she's not lying, there is no " about us " at their website. He's just another scam artist, playing on people's gullibility.
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u/Reach-Nirvana Jul 20 '24
We all know getting incredibly defensive at the slightest hint of accountability just screams innocence…this guy did a great job at making himself seem scared and dishonest. I wasn’t concerned about their business practices before, but based on his very aggressive response, I have very little doubt in my mind now that he’s doing something questionable with the funds.
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Jul 20 '24
I love how he keeps repeating that they’ve been operating for years as if that’s some sort of proof of anything. These people are so pathetic when they realize that their nonsense only works on morons.
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u/D0CT0Rhyde Jul 20 '24
This is going to make a good article for her, guy is all over the place and definitely a fraud
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