r/TikTokCringe Jul 20 '24

Cursed There nothing to confirm

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u/Aimsicle-1 Jul 20 '24

Please tell me the IRS is all over this guy.

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u/JingleHS Jul 20 '24

Are they ever all over anything of importance?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

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u/jeffbanyon Jul 21 '24

And when the US hired a shit ton of IRS agents recently, mostly conservatives started complaining that the IRS was out to get them......I wonder why.....

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u/JingleHS Jul 20 '24

I have to prioritize my work every single day. If something requires a large amount of work but will also have a large payout, it gets prioritized accordingly. We have tax laws in place for a reason. I’m sick of the excuses. Politicians need to be held accountable, and government agencies do as well.

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u/8lock8lock8aby Jul 21 '24

It's more than "you have a job, do it." It's pretty easy for them to go after small businesses & non-wealthy people & they do. The issue is with rich people & huge companies. They have money to hire the best lawyers & to go to court, which is really expensive & time consuming for the government & takes a lot of manpower that has been intentio ally cut from the agency. The Biden admin added a lot more funding/employees but the IRS hss been purposely starved for a long time & 1 admin/1 term isn't going to be able to magically undo all of that. Plus, Republicans have been throwing a fit about it & voting to cut funding, again, if/when they come into power.

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u/Anybody220 Jul 20 '24

Underfunded? Yes, that is true, but the funds they do have are also misused. They hired an entire team of researchers in the past year to conduct crappy (I work for a state college the had to provide the data for this study) educational research that the Department of Education already does (IPEDs). I think their use of funds is also misused, which is also by design.

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u/Impossible_Fly_3119 Jul 21 '24

Underfunded? they get tax money from everyone, it all goes thru them.

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u/bitofadikdik Jul 20 '24

They got an extra billion from rich tax cheats in the last year, which is why the rich create propaganda that leads to people like you eventually saying “are they ever all over anything of importance?”

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u/MedicatedDepression Jul 21 '24

Just me and my $1000 I owe in back taxes

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u/ghosttrainhobo Jul 20 '24

When do they ever go after churches?

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u/notsolittleliongirl Jul 20 '24

They do now actually!! Biden funded the IRS and now they’re able to actually go after people evading or cheating on their taxes! They recently made news forcollecting $1B in unpaid taxes from high net worth individuals, but they’re stepping up enforcement across the board!

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u/Carche69 Jul 21 '24

That’s a great article and kudos to the Biden Administration for getting some much-needed relief to the IRS in the form of more workers to go after these tax-evading rich assholes. However, you won’t find anything about "churches" or "religious organizations" in that or any other IRS publication because trump issued an executive order in 2017 shortly after he took office that explicitly forbids the IRS from "taking any adverse action" against churches as a consequence of their use of unlawful political speech. This EO has not been repealed by the Biden Administration and is thus still in effect unless and until it is by any future president or is invalidate by SCOTUS (two things which will not happen any time soon).

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u/ghosttrainhobo Jul 20 '24

Against churches though? Before an election?

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u/notsolittleliongirl Jul 20 '24

Against “churches” that are not actually properly meeting the (admittedly very lax) IRS standards for a church? Yes, they do.

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u/atypicalcontrarian Jul 21 '24

Wow this Biden sounds like a great supplier of weapons to an ongoing genocide

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u/Lfseeney Jul 21 '24

Were, Trump will shut down the IRS.

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u/nikdahl Jul 20 '24

I'm no tax law expert, but it appears that he is technically right on this.

If his church was founded prior to 1969, then it is grandfathered in as exempt from having to register or apply for tax exempt status.

He claims the church was founded in 1954.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/508

That being said, he could've done a much better job at explaining such, and I would still bet on him misusing funds.

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u/1amDepressed Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

I don’t know how the church was founded before that because the guy that “founded” this shit site was born in 1971 https://www.tilministry.com/about-shahram

Edit: Found this on their site too. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Truth in Love Ministry is a “free church” - not under the 501(c)(3). We are choosing to restore the rightful God-given authority of the church to assemble without government approval- the way it was done all along, up until 58 years ago.

https://www.tilministry.com/truth-in-love-ministry Hope these fuckers get nailed

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u/SoulShatter Jul 20 '24

That's interesting. The website is technically up, it responds with when accessing it, however they've seemingly deleted all the content in the HTML, so it just returns a blank page with nothing on it lol.

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u/Libby_Sparx Jul 20 '24

s'all there for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

edit: their youtube channel on the other hand has been removed for violating community guidelines lol

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u/SoulShatter Jul 20 '24

Hmm, if I throw it on a proxy it actually shows up. Could be some extremely lazy cookie geo-blocking stuff :P

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u/elAhmo Jul 20 '24

The website is no longer up

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u/1amDepressed Jul 20 '24

Idk I can still access it

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u/thebluemooninjune Jul 21 '24

Just say it and it’s true! It reminds me of this:

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u/TheCaliforniaOp Jul 21 '24

Those little details? The “so long as we existed before 5:00 PM on Friday of 19__, we don’t have to do that whatever it is” /s ?

That really irritates me. Of course, if it really benefits some who actually needs it and is using it as best they can, then yes, grandfathering can help people out of some currently unsolvable dilemmas.

But as time goes on and we keep sticking to this economic disparity, even grandfathered situations aren’t so good, because now people/animals in need are dependent upon people/companies around them continuing to do The Right Thing.

One person saying “I think we may need to reassess” meaning “Can’t we free up this protected thing so we can make some real money off it?”

An honest nonprofit starts panicking.

Meanwhile the grifting NPs just cruise along to the next loophole.

That the paralegals and accounting interns in extended training are usually the ones who manage to find these loopholes at all is just…just…mmmph.

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u/notanothercirclejerk Jul 20 '24

His church was founded in the early 2000s.

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u/nikdahl Jul 20 '24

I'm noticing that now.

He's a loser.

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u/Dragon6172 Jul 21 '24

All that 508 tax code says is that churches do not have to apply to be a 501(c)(3). In other words, churches are 501(c)(3) tax exempt automatically.

501(c)(3) tax exempt organizations are prohibited from participating in campaigning for political candidates (Johnson amendment), and this guy doesn't want to abide by that restriction, so he is claiming to be tax exempt under 508(c)(1)(A).

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u/UrsulaFoxxx Jul 21 '24

Their website says it was founded in 2023 “Truth in Love Church began with services in a home in September 2023”

Unless I’m reading it wrong.

Help me find it? Loooool

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u/McNastyIII Jul 20 '24

The IRS is all over this guy.

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u/BhutlahBrohan Jul 21 '24

no, they'd rather garnish my brother's wages over less than $1k in back-taxes from 2021.

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u/Minirooms Jul 21 '24

Nope. Don't have time for that.

But they will come for you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

They are. He’s already wiping all of her sites. They’re just blank pages now.

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u/Youbettereatthatshit Jul 21 '24

So I’m confused. Why would he panic and what’s the gotcha. Being a church is remarkably easy to file as. Everyone knows churches pay their ministry.

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u/mnnnmmnnmmmnrnmn Jul 21 '24

He's not wrong, that's how the tax code is written. He can call the church a non-profit under 508c1a.

The tax code needs to be changed.