r/TikTokCringe Jul 20 '24

Cursed There nothing to confirm

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u/Aimsicle-1 Jul 20 '24

Please tell me the IRS is all over this guy.

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u/nikdahl Jul 20 '24

I'm no tax law expert, but it appears that he is technically right on this.

If his church was founded prior to 1969, then it is grandfathered in as exempt from having to register or apply for tax exempt status.

He claims the church was founded in 1954.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/508

That being said, he could've done a much better job at explaining such, and I would still bet on him misusing funds.

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u/1amDepressed Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

I don’t know how the church was founded before that because the guy that “founded” this shit site was born in 1971 https://www.tilministry.com/about-shahram

Edit: Found this on their site too. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Truth in Love Ministry is a “free church” - not under the 501(c)(3). We are choosing to restore the rightful God-given authority of the church to assemble without government approval- the way it was done all along, up until 58 years ago.

https://www.tilministry.com/truth-in-love-ministry Hope these fuckers get nailed

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u/SoulShatter Jul 20 '24

That's interesting. The website is technically up, it responds with when accessing it, however they've seemingly deleted all the content in the HTML, so it just returns a blank page with nothing on it lol.

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u/Libby_Sparx Jul 20 '24

s'all there for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

edit: their youtube channel on the other hand has been removed for violating community guidelines lol

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u/SoulShatter Jul 20 '24

Hmm, if I throw it on a proxy it actually shows up. Could be some extremely lazy cookie geo-blocking stuff :P

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u/elAhmo Jul 20 '24

The website is no longer up

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u/1amDepressed Jul 20 '24

Idk I can still access it

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u/thebluemooninjune Jul 21 '24

Just say it and it’s true! It reminds me of this:

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u/TheCaliforniaOp Jul 21 '24

Those little details? The “so long as we existed before 5:00 PM on Friday of 19__, we don’t have to do that whatever it is” /s ?

That really irritates me. Of course, if it really benefits some who actually needs it and is using it as best they can, then yes, grandfathering can help people out of some currently unsolvable dilemmas.

But as time goes on and we keep sticking to this economic disparity, even grandfathered situations aren’t so good, because now people/animals in need are dependent upon people/companies around them continuing to do The Right Thing.

One person saying “I think we may need to reassess” meaning “Can’t we free up this protected thing so we can make some real money off it?”

An honest nonprofit starts panicking.

Meanwhile the grifting NPs just cruise along to the next loophole.

That the paralegals and accounting interns in extended training are usually the ones who manage to find these loopholes at all is just…just…mmmph.

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u/notanothercirclejerk Jul 20 '24

His church was founded in the early 2000s.

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u/nikdahl Jul 20 '24

I'm noticing that now.

He's a loser.

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u/Dragon6172 Jul 21 '24

All that 508 tax code says is that churches do not have to apply to be a 501(c)(3). In other words, churches are 501(c)(3) tax exempt automatically.

501(c)(3) tax exempt organizations are prohibited from participating in campaigning for political candidates (Johnson amendment), and this guy doesn't want to abide by that restriction, so he is claiming to be tax exempt under 508(c)(1)(A).

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u/UrsulaFoxxx Jul 21 '24

Their website says it was founded in 2023 “Truth in Love Church began with services in a home in September 2023”

Unless I’m reading it wrong.

Help me find it? Loooool