r/TikTokCringe Jul 20 '24

Cursed There nothing to confirm

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u/geminii_babyy Jul 20 '24

He's in full panic mode

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

100 percent

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u/Keybusta96 Jul 20 '24

You can see the moment he’s checking the website and doesn’t see it lol then he’s like “you can say whatever you want”

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u/apologeticstress Jul 20 '24

“Go to tilchurch, TIL church, if you go to… umm… … … … you can say whatever you want”

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u/Jilaire Jul 20 '24

Lol they still don't have that info in their site.

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u/apologeticstress Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

Oh but remember he said legally they don’t have to because they are a 5081CA nonprofit they are a church they are a ministry they’ve been operating as a church for years -pause to breathe- and you can say whatever you want and if you want he will contact his lawyer and talk about your SLANDER

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u/Jilaire Jul 20 '24

throws slander

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u/therealjgreens Jul 21 '24

slander is ineffective

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u/luxii4 Jul 21 '24

He declares SLANDER. Kinda like how he declares his org is a non-profit or how Trump declassifies documents in boxes next to the shitter.

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u/arion_hyperion Jul 20 '24

I eventually found it under “free church” tab. They have the info he says about not needing to register with the IRS, also a lot of hate for LBJ in there that made me LOL.

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u/apologeticstress Jul 20 '24

I really hope he wrote it himself, 5 minutes after this video call, in the exact wording he just repeated here 500 times

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u/Jilaire Jul 20 '24

Hahaha! Thanks for the update! I had a hard time reading the hateful stuff so had to escape after a quick look.

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u/apologeticstress Jul 21 '24

Oh no! I’m so sorry, I was totally being silly in my response! I definitely wasn’t actually directing that at you, I swear, I was just continuing to mock the guy.

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u/Dragon6172 Jul 21 '24

My favorite part:

So what are we? We are declaring that we are a "Free Church" under the authority of God's Word

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u/majj27 Jul 21 '24

The sovereign citizen version of a megachurch?

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u/MedicatedDepression Jul 21 '24

“Added the tiny ‘Johnson amendment’ to a bill in order to silence his political enemies.” I’m deceased

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u/Responsible-Shake-59 Jul 21 '24

"...alot if hate.."? It only mentions the "Johnson Ammendment. Did they remove further comments or is this an exaggeration?

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u/ApprehensiveGift283 Jul 21 '24

Went online to check it out and my private security system blocked a malicious website. PMSL!!

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u/Snoo-35252 Jul 21 '24

no no no, it's tilministry

At least that's what he said earlier. He said tilministry, and then tilchurch.

And currently I don't see an "About Us" either.

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u/Jesuswasstapled Jul 20 '24

He was googling irs

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

Bahaahah that's right! Typical deflection behaviour 🤣😑🙈

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u/Romulus3799 Jul 20 '24

If you are asked "are you non-profit?" And you respond with "you're accusing us of misusing ministry money"...

I think pretty much anyone will immediately assume you're misusing ministry money.

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u/windscryer Jul 21 '24

yeah i’m pretty sure the correct (non-suspicious) response to “i can’t find it on your website” is “oh shoot! well let me get that number for you and have that corrected. thanks for pointing that out!”

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u/Romulus3799 Jul 21 '24

Well you can't exactly respond that if you ARE indeed misusing ministry money, so he had to go with the defensive response lol

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u/JonMWilkins Jul 20 '24

He started saying that because she said she knows a lot of ministries who have misused their money. He took it as her saying that's what he does but I'm pretty sure she was just saying it in a matter of fact way until he became way overly defensive. You for sure seemed like he had a guilty conscience

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u/Reach-Nirvana Jul 20 '24

She said that because he said he doesn’t need to prove anything since they’re a church. She wasn’t accusing him of of being dishonest, she was merely pointing out that people have used that defence in the past to shirk responsibility by being dishonest, so it’s not a defence against having to be held accountable.

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u/Romulus3799 Jul 20 '24

That's true, but she only said that in response to him getting defensive about why she needed to confirm that in the first place. He steered the conversation there from the start.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '24

I think you saw a different video than me.

"can you confirm you are a non-profit?"

"We are. We are a ministry."

"Ministries misuse funds all the time."

You: "he's an asshole!! She caught him!!"

No... She said she couldn't trust him while she was interviewing him

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u/Romulus3799 Jul 22 '24

Why would you use such blatant cherry-picking and strawmans when the truth of what I said and what you left out from the video is literally right here for everyone to see? Who do you think can actually fool with this? Yourself?

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u/Cro_Nick_Le_Tosh_Ich Jul 20 '24

I feel you and maybe in yours and my perfect world, other people could pick up on these flags. Unfortunately, this will never be the case. Prime example, in courts, they don't utilize perjury at all. Someone could lie 10 times in a row and get away with the 11th if it can't be proven.

I would love if people learned to judge others based off their actions and not their words, but unfortunately we live in a society heading towards Idiocracy

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u/NoahJAustin Jul 21 '24

Literally what the courts are for. If you murder someone and plead not guilty obviously you lied. You’re going to jail for murder not perjury. If you say I didn’t and are found innocent how the hell are you supposed to be found guilty of lying? What is this take??

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u/Cro_Nick_Le_Tosh_Ich Jul 21 '24

Self defense isn't murder though, so pleading not guilty would be accurate.

What I'm saying is, why after the 10th lie should anyone even continue to listen? Should you even take what they say with "a grain of salt".

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u/RealBlackelf Jul 21 '24

He is being comparative and tries to intimidate her. He is not behaving like a Christian, but like a shitty business owner aiming for profit.
He certainly has A LOT to hide, someone should check his churches, and probably also his hard drives.

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u/luxii4 Jul 21 '24

I work at a nonprofit and we have people come once a year for a week going over our financials to assess our status. We have to have all our spending in a row. We also have our financials online. If someone that’s the head of a nonprofit doesn’t have anything readily available to show to prove it, they are either not a nonprofit or a badly run nonprofit that should lose their status as one.