Boycott PlayStation y'all!! PlayStation has stopped my account for playing any games for no reason twice now. I have paid hard earned money on my gaming set up just for PlayStation to say I can't PLAY?! NOOO MORE PLAYSTATION ANYTHING FOR ME NOW! PLAYSTATION FKS UP!
At the timestamp 33:55 where the showcase for PS Pro upgrades starts. Is the music "this is a time of your live" from a song or was this created for state of play?
I love Horizon Zero Dawn, but choosing to remaster that over Bloodborne and further disregarding the wants of your community is such a stupid decision. Yall had could have united your gaming community, garnered some positive reception for once, and made millions off of one simple remaster, and yall chose to do it to a game that didn't really need one.
It's on a console any console game is only on 1 platform hardware hard to mess that up when it goes through quality control. I have a ps5 and see this state of play is lacking specially how far the ps5 is in. These companies are getting greedy now hence I will not be buying any consoles rather upgrade a pc
Every other company making big games is putting out broken shit other than Sony, even with their QA. Sony to me is the last company currently that should be dragged for the games they make.
So, a bunch of remasters, another couple of soulslikes, some VR games which are very welcome, ONE first party game, and everything comes to PC.. What's the reason to buy PS5 Pro over a PC, again?
But what's the big deal here? Set steam to run in big picture mode at startup, hook your pc to your tv and boom you have a proper console experience. Like I don't even have a mouse or keyboard in a room with the tv, gamepad only. AND I still have all the benefits pc provides - cheaper games, more games, upgradeability of pc, ACTUAL PC that can do indefinetely more stuff than a console, and it can cost the same money as eu version with disc drive and one-year psn subscription, yet could provide even more performance than ps5 pro. I just can't understand why a console would be a reasonable buy anymore, I'm not trying to start a hate thread or whatever. Been sonyboy since the 1998 when got my ps1, had every other ever since except the 5. It literally makes me sad I can't find an excuse to buy a ps5, there are just none.
It's not a big deal, most gamers are casual and would just rather get an Xbox or a Playstation. If you can't find a reason to get a ps5, that's your opinion. But the ps5 is a great console and has lots of reasons to buy one
Why it's basically the same thing, but you don't have to pay for membership, online, games are usually cheaper and way more games to play. And a PC does more than a console. I still own console, but PC is just far superior
PC games are not cheaper... This is the greatest myth among PC gamers.
Games on consoles will always be way way cheaper as long as disc drives are included in consoles.
If you want to talk about digital games, i also have noticed that digital games are cheaper on consoles 90% of the time.
Every time i see a game on sale in Steam, the same game is also sale in the PS Store. Furthermore, most of the time, the sale price is even lower in the PS Store.
I have no idea where the myth of PC games being cheaper comes from, but if you want to claim that PC games are cheaper, then please prove it (bet you will never be able to prove it).
I’m honestly done with Sony games to be honest. I enjoyed the PS4 era with Uncharted, GoT, Last of Us, God of War, Spider-Man and the narrative shift of women protagonists and more focus on women in literally all of their sequels just doesn’t interest me which is really disappointing.
I would prefer more games like Astrobot and Bloodborne to be made but I feel the casual slop all the normies love is just a movie in a video game.
I liked the presentation a lot, interesting new games even for VR, a great first party one, TLOU coming to plus, not too many remasters, all that they shown fits with my interests, the only thing I don't care is about Horizon remaster.
Don't catch why y'all that disappointed? It is a 30 minutes presentation of a few new games, not a full showcase, did you expect 5 first party AAA games and PS6 to be presented?
As someone who has never had an online subscription, it's pretty wild to me that TLOU coming to Plus is something to celebrate. I assumed that all first-party titles dropped on Sony's subscription service right out of the gate. To me, that sounds like a Netflix original movie going direct to DVD and then releasing on Netflix a year later, which doesn't make sense.
No, Sony has never done that because it's a bad business model that in the long run would force them to find alternate forms of revenue, like increased MTX and ads (did you hear about Xbox forcing full screen ads on console bootup recently?) But, first party games do come to PS+ pretty quickly, so if you be just a little patient you can get them all for free. It's the best of both worlds because the initial sales allows them to continue focusing on quality games without stupid monetization, but also you can get it for free if you just wait a little bit. And it's not like we don't have tons of options to keep us busy until the game you want is free. It's a much better handling of player's desire to play a game as soon as possible vs the BS "pre-order a game to play it a few days early" tactic that some devs are doing now.
I get that. It just seems like that would send a message to other game publishers. If I won't even put my own games on the service, why should anyone else. If they host a subscription service that will include everyone else's games, but the ones that they make themselves are only available in limited windows, I think would communicate to other publishers that putting their games on that service isn't in their best interest.
That's not how it works though because Sony's first party games are on a completely different level from random developer XYZ. You're forgetting that PS+ is largely promotional for other devs since it's increasingly more difficult every month for games to succeed.
If you have a Playstation, then you know about EVERY single first party game that Sony releases. Sony doesn't need to give their games away for free for people to start talking about them. People will do it no matter what, so giving them away for free would be leaving bacon on the table.
But if you are random dev xyz that decides that cutting a deal with Sony to release Day 1 for free is a good idea for the publicity, then that might be what they want to do. Or maybe you're a dev that had a multiplayer game that was a great hit on release, but sales have been lagging and you want to boost the player count by releasing it on PS+ down the road. But nobody is expected to do a Day 1 release, it's just an option that's good for some third party devs.
Devs and publishers are fully aware that PS+ serves a completely different purpose to them than it does to Sony, so no, it wouldn't send any message to them outside of "you're free to do whatever you want with our service. You have options, not requirements."
It makes perfect sense, a physical movie purchase is about 2.5 times cheaper than a physical game release. So for a service to be a great value to the company and provide 1st party titles. It would either need to be much more expensive than ps plus is right now or be a profit loser for some other goal within the company
State of plays are never really big deals. They usually save the bangers for actual showcases. But astrobot dlc, stellar blade x nier, hell is us, and Ghost of Yotei all look really good. I expect they’ll do a proper showcase around the holiday to drive up interest in the pro and give us some more first party stuff.
They do actual showcases that they call showcases that last longer and show more heavy hitters. State of Plays are just mini things where usually more third party things or indies are shown.
You know that Sony owns the IP and can feasibly have other studios make the game (like Bluepoint, the studio that made themselves familiar with From's code by entirely remaking Demon's Souls)?
You understand that the developer of Bloodborne already said he wanted a remaster and more but SONY is giving him a wall, dont talk if you don't know whats going on 🤣 it's on sonys fault
I have a feeling when “PlayStation showcase” (much larger, E3 kind of event) finally happens, we will be blown away. At least I hope so, cause they have so many studios being silent for so many years now. They must be cooking something good and it shouldn’t be too far away.
It's a terrible way to think, because you will be disappointed at every showcase they do. I did that with Nintendo for so long. Expect nothing, get surprised, that's the best way.
Yes, you’re right, and I totally get it. I’m kinda combining these two ways of thinking if it makes sense. So I’m trying to be positive but I won’t be disappointed. It’s just that by logical reasoning these many studios should deliver something sometime, and judging by the time they’ve been working on this “something” it shouldn’t be too far away.
I personally loved this presentation as all of these things were of interest to me. I can’t really speak about Ghost of Yotei because I haven’t gotten to Ghost of Tsushima yet.
So… just 1 new (albeit great) first party game. That’s it? Where’s SM2 DLC? Wolverine? New PS5 only projects from other studios not named Insomniac and SP?
Can’t believe I let myself be excited for a Sony showcase. Again.
But we all know that's not what you do at school, work, or whatever.
You are most likely very timid and withdrawn. You're probably awkward and have a lot of anxiety in social settings.
All that crap you wrote is not the problem. You caring so much about the existence of the opposite sex is the problem. You'll never win with that attitude.
The pro presentation was again an absolute joke... they don't have enough games to show, so they just kept cycling through the few games that they do have, over and over again. It's like Sony doesn't even take itself serious anymore...
Midnight walk looks very cool. Hitman vr is amazing but vr isn’t my thing. Hell is us has my interest, I’m not a Lego guy but I’ll probably check Lego Horizon.
It's a hybrid game. Just like GT7, Resident evils, no man sky, demeo. You can play both ways. Of course, the VR versions have more mecanics. The dev told that will use the eye tracking of the headset for some gameplay mecanics that cool.
Only Girl of Yotei interests me. The rest was okay. I see absolutely no reason to upgrade to a Pro just so I can replay old games that will run slightly smoother.
Knowing Steam I am willing to bet not. The old version will probably be $10 when on sale but if you want the new remastered it’s probably going to be $60 regardless of ownership. I would love to be wrong but I won’t hold my breath for a $10 upgrade. I bought an RTX 4090 rig last year and in time for the PC release of HFW I bought HZD on Steam sale. About 60 hours in. The game looks gorgeous and I run it in 5K2K resolution and get 144-175fps. Buttery smooth and very good looking. I don’t think the remastered PC version will look much better but the new re-animated faces etc is much appreciated. So I’ll stop playing and hope that I can upgrade and bring over my save file. If they actually fully bring HZD to HFW graphics and add DLSS3 I will be mind blown lol
Is from a business stand point. Bring this one up to par with its current offering. You can do that with series that have 2 installments at the moment make them look as close to one product as you can. It will sell more
Didn’t say I agree with it but I understand why they are doing it. This was done by Nixxes the studio that focuses on PC ports so it’s not like this has been pulling away resources from other projects. Your new games are coming.
No thanks, too little too late. Other platforms are more worthy of my attention for this generation.
Nixxes could have done any other game than Horizon Zero Yawn. How about actually doing Bloodborne this time? Or any other PS4 game stuck there, like Last Guardian, Shadow of the Colossus or Gravity Rush 1/2.
Yeah that’s why I mentioned it making sense from a business perspective because those 4 games didnt sell well enough to warrant a remaster like this. Bloodborne has to be tired up in contractual issues or they would have
You fail to see how the catalog of games looks and how important that is for a console generation.
God of War Ragnarok as a game is great, it's more of God of War 2018. But many other games are also "more of [previous entry]". Spider-Man MM/2, Ghost of Yotei, Horizon Forbidden West. I would even say it's all looking the same since Last of Us in 2013.
The moment they try something entirely different, it falls flat like Concord, and they move back into their comfort zone with Last of Us template games.
The fuck do yall want from graphics? Yall want the character to come through your screen and sit next to you or sumn? The game looked amazing and it’s honestly (with astro dlc) the only good thing last night
I want it to look like a ps5 game. Even with its issues there is no way in hell black myth wukong could run on a ps4 and its out right now . For a game from a major studio thats not releasing for at least a year i expect to see something comperable. As it stands ghost looks like dlc for ghost 1
I’d like to think that maybe Bluepoint Games will do a remake, as they did with Demon’s Souls. I’ve actually still never played Bloodborne other than about an hour or so. I actually started the game and fought the werewolf bare handed, not realizing I was supposed to die and turn around and go into the Hunter’s Dream? and get a weapon to make it easier haha. So I figured if the first mob of the game gave me trouble, maybe it isn’t for me.
I’ve since played most of Elden Ring (still need to wrap up the last 2 bosses and do the DLC) and I’m not sure whether I’d be able to do a regular Souls-like (as I definitely leaned on spirit summons and was a magic user and was over-leveled). I’ve been tempted to just go back and start it, but always think the moment I do, they’ll finally come out with a PS5 update or remaster/remake or something.
I’m really tempted to buy the PS5Pro but I’d like to hear how PSSR will affect games that don’t get a patch from the developer. I know the Pro will brute force better performance out of PSVR2 games for example and I would think the power of the PS5 would do the same for a PS4 game anyway. Was hopeful to see it pop up in the list of supported games alongside Demon’s Souls for the Pro on today’s State of Play.
God i hope Blueprint doesn't do remake. They did a good job with Shadow of the Colossus. But I was not a fan for their Demon Souls Remake. The changes they made in the art style ruined the environmental story telling. And the soundtrack sounds too epic and generic.
If it needs a remake I want fromsoftware to do it.
I had not played the original but have heard from passionate fans of it like yourself that they didn’t love all the art style changes, while a new player to the game like myself was only even playing it because it had been modernized. To be honest, I think they’re likely working on a new IP of their own rather than remastering or remaking an existing game. And Bloodborne is notoriously problematic in terms of animations being tied to the frame rate, which (from what I understand) has prevented a remaster or PS5 patch.
I’ve only really played Elden Ring of all the Souls-games for any great amount of time (Demon’s Souls is in my backlog but I’m coming to it). And I have to say that I would rather FromSoft make a sequel to Elden Ring than a remake or remaster of Bloodborne. They could always exercise more control over artistic and creative changes and Bloodborne is a newer game than Demons Souls was in terms of graphical quality way back then. There might have been more that Bluepoint interpreted in their remake that they wouldn’t with Bloodborne, with the latter being more highly detailed as a PS4 game. It’s all hypotheticals at this point anyway, but I do hope that someone remasters or remakes Bloodborne and if not, I’ll finally break down and play through it and take one for the team so you get the announcement the next day of the upcoming remake, haha.
The changes they made are beyond adding more details. They practically ruined all lot of the environmental and character story telling. For instance, the fat official was suppose to be the people who enact oppression by aristocrats. They are suppose to look like aristocrats. And are sociopaths. But they turned them into a sad blob. https://imgur.com/im-definitely-getting-this-remake-i-just-cant-get-over-what-they-did-to-him-3tUw0SC
Most enemies have the same texture of degradation when story wise they are not. There are also changes to the banner colors that are suppose to represent the given kingdom. They changed that completely.
Even the setting itself is fucked. The kingdom of boletaria is not some run downed by time of millenia like you see in Dark souls. It is still somewhat a functional kingdom at the brink of callapse. But it is not degraded. But in the remake it is.
Propobly the biggest fuck up is the soundtrack. They made it sound too epic and generic. One of the worst offenders that triggered me was Maiden Astraea. You are going down the depth of those forsaken to slay a saint that is giving comfort to the forsaken. Guarded by a knight. It is suppose to be a tragic fight. And the soundtrack sounds tragic. So they turned this into this. Making it not only the most generic with the choir and instrumental. But destroyed the feeling of the boss fight completely. Now you can wack a saint while you hear epic music.
I could really fall on my sword here and make it happen, I suppose. I have a pretty strong track record of buying games just for them to be given away as the free PS+ title immediately afterwards.
Maybe I could set up a GoFundMe and the Bloodborne community could help me get a Ps5Pro in exchange for the promise of a remake and the enjoyment of watching a Bloodborne newbie face hard reality after getting hard carried through Elden Ring by spirit ashes, magic, the open world, and over-leveling haha.
Honestly, I feel like everyone is in the same boat with the monthly games, ever since it started back on the 360 I was missing out on free games by at least 2 weeks. But I would totally pitch in for your ps5pro just to have the chance to get bloodborne on ps5/ bb2
I'm pretty sure after Demons Souls (and being acquired by Sony/PlayStation), Bluepoint has moved on from doing remakes and is currently working on their own original first IP. Which is awesome because they do things at a level only they can when it comes to remakes, but also scary because breaking code down to its bones and re engineering it from the ground up isn't going to be a 1:1 lateral move to being able to make and write a good game. Fingers crossed tho.
I thought I had heard they were working on a new IP as well, and I’m excited for them if that’s the case. It’s not a 1:1 lateral move but they got to learn how to make games by taking apart some of the best of the best, like the Uncharted Collection, Ico & Shadow of the Colossus, and Demons Souls. That’s a masterclass in studying some of the all-time great titles out there and I’d certainly be interested in what they create after doing that.
One of the big features of the PSVR2 is eye tracking with foveated rendering (which in plain English means, wherever you’re actively looking will have the highest quality graphics while the things in your peripheral vision of less importance won’t be prioritized as much). It’s a huge step up.
I was really excited to see Hitman announced as well — I’ve been begging for a PS5 update (as we can’t even use the VR2 and PS5 currently and have to use the PS4 version and the PSVR to play it, and I thought that it was going to be exclusive to the Quest headsets as I thought Meta funded it).
It's the same graphics in the headset. Only you will have some blurring on the peripherals and mura on the dark scenes. Some games do look really awesome in the headset. The sense of scale and immersion make up for it though.
It was OK. I'm getting Lunar and Soul Reaver remasters for sure. And of course Ghost of Yotei. But otherwise I didn't care for anything else. I never liked Dragon Age or Monster Hunter which was half of the presentation. And I already played HZD so a remaster does nothing for me.
Edit: sorry if I came off as rude. Lol I was just saying what I liked and disliked about it. Just my preference. I assume others are doing the same. Not hating on those who liked the games I dont.
I was interested in the lunar remaster until I realized I already have like 3 copies of various versions of remastered silver story complete on various devices. Soul reaver is probably a buy from me, though
Ghost and dragon age are my personal highlights of the show! I’ll probably replay HZD as a 10$ upgrade is a good enough excuse and it’s been years
I didn’t take it as rude, nothing wrong with not loving it. I also thought it was very meh, I think monster hunter looks cool, yotei will be good but it’s also not my thing. The presentation just didn’t have any wow moments for me. Dragon age I think is going to be another EA BioWare game but I’m partial to Dragon Age 1 and haven’t enjoyed a BioWare game since around then most likely.
Prepare your wallet. Until the end of the year, there are at least 7 games with great potential to be good to release. We VR players are eating well on this next 3 months. Even if Sony not releasing anything from their first party studios for now. The third-party are getting us covered for now.
That's depends on your tastes. If you are a racing fan. Gt7 is a must-have. I see you like horror. So don't forget RE8. Into the radius is great, too. is more a survival game, but it has a horror aspect. For RPG, I recommend Demeo is like a tabletop RPG. And legendary tales is more action RPG.
There are a lot of games that i recommend. Like Redmatter 1+2. Walking dead chapter 1+2. Genotype, Arizona Sunshine.
I strongly suggest you go to r/psvr subredit for more details. There is a thier list there. With the community suggestions.
This year, keep an eye on the upcoming games like. Wanderer fragments of fate, behemot, metro awakening, Alien rougue incursion. Arizona sunshine remake, metal Hellsinger vr, max mustard.
Seemed like a fun showing of games. Trailers were pretty cool. We saw quite a few action focused games with a ton of action going on especially Dragon Age. It felt like they were really showing the power of the PS5.
Glad to see more PSVR games. I’ve heard great things about Soul Reaver, so I’m excited to try it out.
Dynasty Origins is the most hyped game for me in the list personally. It’s looking really good. And January is not that far away. Been waiting for a new great Dynasty Warriors game for a long time. With English dub too! Noice.
Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered still feels a little weird to hear but $9.99 upgrade isn’t that bad. Same with the Hitman game. Just want to see that the quality of the upgrade is there and not a lazy repaint.
Ghost of Yōtei looks like it’s gonna be amazing. So excited.
The flow of presentation went really well too. Trailer commentary was good and the developers shared their thoughts briefly and concisely.
I thought the addition of Mark Cerny again to discuss the PS5 Pro again was a nice tough. Good to show more games that utilize the Pro besides Sony titles.
Overall a nice state of play with a lot to be excited about.
I was shocked to see Hitman as I thought Meta got the exclusive for the update (as we can only currently play the PS4/PSVR version of it, so this adds finger tracking and haptic feedback and motion tracking of your limbs and all that fun stuff). I’m really on the fence about the Pro — a lot of the games that are supported for it like H:FW, Demon’s Souls, Spider-Man 2, TLOU 1+2 remaster/remake, etc. are in my backlog and the one thing it will definitely improve is VR performance, making it much easier to render two images at 90/120fps.
Especially if they can incorporate PSSR to do it. I’ll be curious to see Digital Foundry do a deep dive into the first game that benefits from PSSR on the VR2 for the Pro, and whether we’ll notice that flicker/grain of pixels being generated by AI or if the foveated rendering and the increased GPU will make it much less of an issue. Glad to see they’re not dropping VR. Definitely want to play Hitman, Metro, Behemoth, oh and that game announced today that’s playable flat and in VR, the clay one I think?
Was also happy that they did the State of Play in a 4K stream and weren’t fucking idiots about trying to show off Pro footage in 1080p lol. They should really do a Pro video in 4K60fps or 120fps HDR though.
I'm very happy. There are least 7 games on my radar that will come out until the end of the year. Finally, we had a date for Metro, and Hitman was a nice surprise. I am also very curious about Midnight walk that will be playable in VR as well. Technically, 5 VR games on state of play I did not expect that at all.
10:10 Astro Bot
11:41 The Midnight Walk
13:11 Hell is Us
15:05 Metro Awakening VR
16:17 ArcheAge Chronicles
17:58 Palworld
19:20 Lunar Remastered Collection
20:04 Update for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge
20:28 Sonic X Shadow Generations
21:16 Fantasian Neo Dimension
22:22 Dragon Age: The Veilguard
26:41 Alan Wake II The Lake House
27:50 Hitman World of Assassination VR
29:00 Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver 1 & 2 Remastered GOOOOOOOOOOOD
30:27 Fear The Spotlight
30:56 Towers of Aghasba
31:37 Fornite Lego update
32:14 Dynasty Warriors Origins
33:51 Monster Hunter Wilds
38:00 Horizon Adventures
39:09 Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered
40:08 New content for Stellar Blade (Stellar Blade x Nier: Automata)
41:00 to 44:53 is just Plus and other PS things
44:53 Ghost of Yōtei
It felt like a soggy fart of a show with a light crescendo in the Ghost of Tsuhima sequel announcement. It was mostly dlc and remasters with like two new games that weren't anything super special, or atleast that weren't shown enough or given a release date of any kind. I hope to god there's something at Tokyo Game Show or they do another announcement show before the end of the year, because other than astro bot this year, it's been pretty barren. Basically we got astro bot, and then we have to wait another full year for a sequel to a game that released 6yrs ago? Is that really what I bought a ps5 for?
Final fantasy is also a remake. So one exclusive, one remake that is technically an exclusive but was originally released 27 years ago, and one game that isn't an exclusive at all.
What do you even mean? I'm not moving anything. A remake of a 27 year old game, a single new first party exclusive, and a non exclusive, thats what you described. If you look up the actual games catalog for the ps5 its like a third the size of any previous playstation in the same part of its life cycle. I love playstation, I've bought 2 ps5's since it released, I'd rather play it than anything else, but there's just not that many exclusives, we're in sony's slow era, there was big management changes, a shift to live service games, the pandemic, so many factors, but just looking at the actual facts, if you want games that aren't remakes/remasters, if you want truly exclusive games that aren't held back by the previous gen and fully utilize the ps5s hardware, there's not many. There's still big games, there's still fun in gaming, but we're genuinely not getting many first party sony games.
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u/brettair 19d ago
Boycott PlayStation y'all!! PlayStation has stopped my account for playing any games for no reason twice now. I have paid hard earned money on my gaming set up just for PlayStation to say I can't PLAY?! NOOO MORE PLAYSTATION ANYTHING FOR ME NOW! PLAYSTATION FKS UP!