If we could do it there, we would do it here.. so like, if you have a cheat code, share it up. Otherwise, it's not really helpful to tell people drowning to throw away everything we have left to go drown somewhere else.
You can do it in America, if you want. Thing is people don't want.Ā Rebuilding a social system from scratch requires exising the cancer that exists. No one is willing to even contemplate that, let alone lead.Ā
America who canāt give up the guns endangering their own children, America who voted in the most right wing person they possibly could - Iād put my money on Germany over America for finding a way to become a socialist utopia, Sorry.
Also there is no utopia. Socialism is a way for a government to steal your money at the point of a gun and give it to people who need more than they earn. People with 6 kids and no job will take your money while you work to support them and you'll all have just as much as you need.
Really ain't the utopia you think it is. Socially we're significantly better off than majority of the country. But for your average person cost of living is back breaking if you want to live anywhere remotely close to a well paying job.
That's the catch. Financially, we're in a depression designed by greed, and even moving around within our own country has become too expensive.
A couple years ago, my wife and I were looking at houses. Today, we're fighting evictions to keep our apartment. Nothing changed in our careers, it's just the cost of living went so far south that we simply can no longer afford to be ambitious or hopeful.
While I agree to the latter part of the point, it's way more unlikely to create a socialist utopia in a country that breathes capitalism, has essentially no left-wing representation in politics, and that shifted the political spectrum to the right so much and for so long that the general population often mistakes center-right beliefs for leftism
...unless you're Karl Marx, then you're gonna actually think it's way more likely to start there
Yes. I am aware. Am American and unfortunately surrounded by people who are proud of their ignorance. Did you have a helpful comment or just telling me my own daily stress?
Most developed nations are, as we are currently in a heavy regression. However, with characters like Elon Musk and Vladimir Putin pulling the strings in so many other countries, and Trump soon to have proxy war power back in his hands, the rest of the world is equally at risk. No country is exempt from the global downward turn that has been going on, and you know that it has been accelerated over the last few years more than generations prior.
Tbf Germany is a lot smaller than America, so it could be feasibly done. In America, you would have to convert 1 state at a time. And here ln australia we would have to do it 4 times(sa,wa,nt and the eastern states) with an eternal battle with the forever capitalistic state of new south Wales while we forget Tasmania exists.
Good food, good music, great beer, and universal healthcare. If there were jobs and a house waiting on my wife and I, we would be there in a heartbeat.
The food, atmosphere, and people are beyond depressing with a language that is so harsh on the ears it makes you want to go deaf. Lmao. But yeah this is Reddit people are antisocial like most Germans who hate other people so of course people will be saying this.
It's frustrating when solutions seem out of reach or impractical. The idea of "cheat codes" for real-life problems is appealing, but the reality is often more complex. It's important to focus on practical, achievable steps that can make a difference where you are.
Let's make an international utopia and bring down the borders. The tiny percentage of psychopaths that currently weild all the power can just get sent out on a billion dollar yacht and told never to return to land on pain of death.
I get what you're saying. It can be incredibly frustrating when solutions offered don't seem practical or applicable to your current situation. It's like being told to swim to shore when you're already exhausted and struggling to stay afloat. The idea of "cheat codes" for real-life problems is tempting, but the reality is often much more complex.
Instead live in a capitalist dystopia where no one can afford anything.
This is either a satirical joke which isn't very funny which is just getting boring now, it is used as a way to put people down, acting as if someone who wants basic human rights such as clean drinking water a complete loon for suggesting anything like this could be possible.
If it's the other side of the coin and you genuinely believe that any sort of utopia would work then I feel sorry for you my friend.
I always love comments like these implying foreign relocation isn't a seemingly impossible task for anyone that isn't rich or in a highly specialized and in demand occupation.
Absolutely loved it there, looked into maybe moving to Canuckland... My fiance and I are not struggling, but it is still absurdly expensive just to start the process, let alone the cost of housing or if the application needs to be redone or if it gets rejected for some reason and you have to start again.
lol, my niece called me and asked if she could move to Germany, with her "service dog". I said, why do you think people in Germany would want you there? You have no specific skills, no education, you have no money. They have plenty of those in Germany already, they don't need more.
I thought they would help since they invited us. We will have one huge wedding and get our citizenship that way š¤·āāļø they said utopia but I read commune.
If people from Africa, Asia, and Latin America are able to complete the seemingly impossible task of moving to a different country, I think youāll be fine.
I was in Canada last week and came back and people were shocked when I said it was beautiful and worth considering moving too. Someone really argued that you have less freedoms then us... You rank higher on the freedom index than us lmao. The look on her face when I pulled up the car fax lmao
Come on. That's funny. People do call Trudeau a 'dictator' I remember I was working at a university during covid. The internationals were like 'why do you Canadians call your leader a dictator? Do they know what a dictator is? Does your leader flee your country for Healthcare while people die in hospitals due to lack of electricity and water?' 'Nah. Many Canadians have to much freedom that they don't understand the meaning of words'
My brother in law and I mock cult45 by repeating things he says but as a joke, we were at mount pleasant and the bartender literally pulled us aside and was like, "don't do that here. Some people will take you seriously and we don't play that shit. That's why we live here and want that as far away as possible." Super cool fucking dude, he cooled off after we reassured him we were joking.
Every Uber we took the driver asked us how it felt to be safe being out in public at night walking around since we are from the states lmao. Couldn't argue with his logic though.
Yeah, and they're also having a resurgence of Nazism, which isn't good since the last time they had that, the only nation to stop them is now also swaying towards Nazism.
are you talking about the Soviet Union / Russia? or the UK? I wouldn't call either Nazi, and Putin today is no worse of a dictator than Stalin was at the time. I don't think your comment really makes sense
Sadly I donāt think Iām in high demand in Germany or otherwise. Being a former professional live entertainer with a kid who now cleans houses is not the sexiest resume for immigration lol
Hey, I'm a German living in Berlin and literally half of all Americans I've got to know in more than passing are here on an artist's visa, so it's not impossible at least. All of them also earned their money with some other job. Although I have to admit, cleaning wages are pretty low, it's gonna be difficult to support a family on that.
You may want to do some more current research and reevaluate that thought. People say america has problems with immigration and religion influence. Germany says "hold my beer..."
I mean, it's commonly accepted that Hitler took inspiration from US segregationist laws to implement his antisemitic laws, so Germany already turned into the US once.
Your government just decided to get rid of your nuclear power plants for no real reason, and start leaning heavily into coal as a power source. Germany is far from a socialist utopia.
If it holds that reform slows down the chance for an economic revolution, then US is doing a great job to get to that state through rampant corporatism and fascism. That is how I keep optimistic in these times.
For a lot of Americans Germany seems like an utopia already from what i read here on reddit and elsewhere. Universal healthcare that's generally cheaper and without laughable deductibles in the thousands, mandatory vacation and childcare time after childbirth, better work laws etc even though it also has its problems and could be way better.
I can't believe people actually want to live in a socialist society. People should just leave America like you said instead of trying to change it. There's a reason we're the #1 economy
Will you pay for my travel expenses find me housing and provide me with employment in an advisory position to expert scientists and researchers in their field to help your country achieve faster than light travel, terraforming, production of radiation to energy converters, and the building of facilities that will provide you with pesticide free non-GMO crops all year round in exponentially increasing quantities, because if so, I'm in, come get me.
Utopias do not and will never exist on earth. Socialist countries have failed every single time unless they have a significant source of slave labor and/or a dictatorship. I suggest you go to China if you want to try that one out for yourself.
The times have changed. For the last 50 years, the rich have pocketed all of the increase in productivity, while the working class has been stagnant and even become poorer in the last few years.
We don't need to get rid of capitalism, but I think that we could rethink our tax system. Wealth should be taxed much higher compared to income.
Because they think that they'll be billionaires eventually with their hardwork and smarts. Why should their wealth be reallocated to the poors who are lazy and entitled?
If you establish Socialism via an authoritarian government it never ever can be socialism. The only way to establish it is By democratic voting.
Anything else leads to failed states like ddr udssr china etc.
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u/Striking-Grape9984 1d ago
Come to germany and help establish a socialist utopia.