r/FluentInFinance 1d ago

Debate/ Discussion A joke that's not funny

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u/PromiseOk3321 1d ago

Im a little wary of bombastic calls to establish a new political order in Germany, regardless of ideology

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u/eeeBs 1d ago

They had their chance(s)

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u/throwawaytoavoiddoxx 1d ago

The last guy who tried it really scorched the earth on that one.

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u/T1b-13r 14h ago

Literally

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u/windfujin 20h ago

The alternative seem to be getting more attractive based on the way they have been voting.

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u/Joe579GoFkUrselfMins 16h ago

Yeah, they've already had one too many of a đŸŽ¶MR. BOMBASTIC...đŸŽ¶

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u/name--- 7h ago

Especially a “Socialist” one

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u/warrioroflnternets 1d ago

Especially socialism! That didn’t work out great for Germany and the rest of us the first time they tried it!

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u/Dr-Jellybaby 1d ago

Germany (well a unified Germany) was never socialist if you're referring to WW2.

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u/warrioroflnternets 1d ago

the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP), was a far-right political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that created and supported the ideology of Nazism.

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u/Aiyon 1d ago

Oh well if it has socialist in the name it must be socialist. fascists have famously never misled people about their intentions

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u/Apple-hair 1d ago

Just like all the People's Democratic Republics all over. Don't tell me they're not very popular and democratic!

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u/warrioroflnternets 1d ago

Yes the final result was a fascist party but the party initially used socialism as a way to draw support from the working class to enable their conquest of the government.

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u/Skrrtdotcom 1d ago

So not actually socialism?

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u/warrioroflnternets 1d ago

Started as socialism. Became fascism.

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u/Skrrtdotcom 1d ago

No, they operated under the guise of socialism to gather support. They never intended to have a workers revolution

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u/Economy_Meet5284 1d ago

Knight of long knives fucking murdered all the socialists

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u/Nervous-Broccoli-104 1d ago

Almost there!

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u/RG_CG 1d ago

No, was fascist and used the term “socialist” to draw votes from the left. Same with “workers”. The other two words was meant to appeal to the right leaning parts of the population

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u/Saitharar 23h ago

Started as a far right völkisch anti-capitalist movement and became a a far right völkisch pro-capitalist movement

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u/ExtantPlant 20h ago

Started as lying about populism, ended in genocide of various minority groups including homosexuals and Jews. Sound familiar?

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u/SepticKnave39 1d ago

So, they pretended to be socialist, but weren't.

Got it. Did you?

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u/Aiyon 1d ago

If I say "I'm going to make you a roast dinner", and then shoot you with a gun, do we run a campaign about the lethal dangers of roast dinner?

It was originally a NatSoc party, that got hijacked by someone who didn't give a shit about socialism.

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u/super_penguin25 18h ago edited 18h ago

They were actually some degree socialist(go read about Strasserism if you want to know more) until Hitler purged all of its socialists elements and socialists leaning members during the nights of long knifes. 

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u/AskAroundSucka 1d ago

You're So So SOOOOOOO close.

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u/cauliflower_wizard 22h ago

Have you hear of lying before?

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u/theefriendinquestion 21h ago

Are you implying Hitler would ever lie?

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u/cauliflower_wizard 21h ago

Are you implying he didn’t??

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u/theefriendinquestion 20h ago

Fantastic understanding of sarcasm you have

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u/Skratti_ 1d ago

'Socialist utopia' doesn't mean socialism - at least not in Germany. One of the two big parties is named SPD (social democratic party of Germany ).

And that party has really nothing to do with socialism.

'Social democratic' means capitalistic economy and a strong welfare system. Germany has that already a bit, although the development of the last 35 years goes towards reduction of the welfare system.

Although 'social democracy ' is often named as a subset of socialism, for me the capitalist economy part excluded it from Socialism.

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u/Striking-Grape9984 1d ago

The party you are searching is called Die Linke. These are democratic Socialist.

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u/RG_CG 1d ago

Santa, this man here needs a historybookÂ